How STRONG was Arnold Schwarzenegger Vs Chris Bumstead?
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2024
- How STRONG was Arnold Schwarzenegger Vs Chris Bumstead?
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You cannot compare them because back in time the suplements were not so advanced compared with the acttual ones. Arnold was all about pure strenght, great simetry even though he did not had a six pack or the fact that he had a smaller bicep from his right hand. He is a legend. In my opinion in classic bodybuilding he had the best body, great pose and very low fat percentage.
@@andreimitrofan7124 I guess we’re just going to have to take this guys word what Arnold supposedly lifted…and yes Arnold was jacked up on roids since he was 17.
Blows my mind how large and full Arnold looked at such a light weight for his height. His chest/waist comparison still has to be the best ever in bodybuilding.
It's mostly due because he was on a different era and thus drugs cycle. Right now they have much more muscles in their legs, arms shoulders and back, wich makes the chest looks much smaller + makes you much heavier for similar chest results. Plus Arnolds chest was insane in itself, but the proportions nowadays have changed, back then their were in V shape, now they are in X shape
@@J.c410 V is superior
Brian Buchanan
57" and 33".
Only FULL person is Grizzly. Arnold is just big
You can't help but be impressed by Arnold. Most of his lifts were done without wrist straps, belt, knee wraps, etc. Hell, he used to squat barefoot. They were certainly built of different stuff back then.
I find it interesting that, after being retired from bodybuilding for over 4 decades, Arnold is still the man everyone is compared to.
He rose the bar, literally.
popularity maybe? dont forget he is an successful actor and politician
@@paolobonoz7673 Plus the fact that judges have stated that he has the best physique of any body builder in history.
Even being compared to Arnold is a huge achievement, and means you are at the very top.
or they just wanted to make a video to get views🤦
Calum was compared to Arnold too...
@@fidencioaguinaga9740 why else would someone make a video, Einstein?
Comparing to Arnold is silly. I don't even like Arnold but the 2 shouldn't even be in same sentence.
@@Frank_Reynolds__. He played him in a movie, of course he was
This is purely speculation on my part, but Ive always suspected that had Arnold chose to continue to train purely for strength, he had the right sort of genetic make up to go considerably further than he did. Despite being a similar height and weight to Chris, Arnold just looks more fuller with denser muscle mass. His neck, jawline hands and wrists, indicate to me that he could of handled a lot more body mass, and corresponding heavier weights. When you see pictures of him around 73/74 he was a beast, and still very young.
He has a much wider pelvis and longer arms which would transfer nicely for strength.
@@gabbeskillz6262 Agreed.
His upper body does look fuller, but his legs in comparison to cbum's are not that great and look to have a considerable less mass. Beeing the same weight, his less massive legs enabled him to build up more muscle in his upper body, wich is why I think he appears bigger
The reason he appeared bigger was because bobdybuilders then would come on stage at about 8-9% bf compared to 5% nowadays and with that little fat percentage your muscles will lack any carb storage which is they main reason for that , also Arnold’s legs were tiny compared to everyone on stage nowadays let alon cbums
@@leovulinovic914 I still think that Arnold is genetically the bigger guy. If they were competing in the same era, at the same age, my guess is that Arnold would likely be bigger and stronger than Chris. But in terms of aesthetic look, that's far more subjective.
Ah Arnold, what a perfect blend of strength and aesthetics. A neverending source of inspiration to me.
@@user-vj1xd6qx7zwrong vhannel
Arnold had a good deadlift but was incredibly weak in squat and bench
Considering that Arnold had much less acess to modern drugs,training knowlegede, nutrition knowledge, and that he still looks very good next to Chris 30+ years later. Its amazing!
its beeen ovr 50 years since arnold did the powerlifting
This what i look at too. Arnolds work ethic and genetics in todays world would make him a clear winner
I agree but not 100% with the drugs part. Arnold probably took more, maybe not as effective, but more
Yeah Chris's coach put out his cycle and it is not much... I take more than that but don't look nearly as good but still
He looks better - way better biceps and chest
Chris is really strong but Arnold is Arnold. It's amazing what he achieved specially relative to his age, and at that time. Another great comparison, Strength Universe! 💪🏻
How much do you squat ?
Thanks again Buddy,. Arnold is a legend. Would have liked to see him compete in the 1977 WSM
@@hauntedpalace3334 ??
@@hauntedpalace3334 huh?
Kinda fair to say that Arnold is the man who set bar initially of everything (strength wise, bodybuilding etc). It is kinda like Bill Kazmaier, people we absolutely pay a respect to
Yes, we all agree that Arnold is amazing strong and was built like to perfection, but my god can we talk about the form of Chris' squats?? I maybe could do 12 with that form at 185lbs, doing nearly 500 for 12 with that form is mindblowing. What a complete monster.
@Jack sir this is a youtube comment.
Do roids girl you’ll b up there
And in socks! Lol
@Jack *god doesn't love you.*
arnold genetic no steriod vs cbum use steriod
Straps make all the difference in the deadlift. Without straps the weight may never leave the floor.
Completely agree, grip limitation is the biggest draw back of the raw deadlift
My 1rm is the same with straps as it is with chalk.
Not really, if you use hook grip or even mixed
Depends the weight for a 300 kg deadlift grip could be a problem
Ben, I agree if it is an issue people should train their forearms directly. I can hang on to far more weight then I can deadlift from the floor with a belt around my waist and lifting chalk on my hands using a mixed grip I've been able to rack pull hundreds of pounds more then my max. I do train my forearms directly though with weights and it's one of my strong points.
Chest and biceps of Arnold are the standard to this day. Especially chest. Unrivaled Ideal
His legs are the standard too.... Of what not to look like.
@@samraizshoaib585 His legs are fine. He's still in the top 5% of the population for lower body. They aren't distracting from his physique.
Arnold's deadlift is way more legit and stronger imo. Straps do make a difference. More weight and raw is way more impressive than less weight for 2 more reps with straps
Funny how everyone on the internet in comment sections bench 450, yet these two monsters were below that.
Not me! But I did get 5 strict reps with 315. I keep my butt planted on the bench at all times.
Different training goals, though.
Still dont believe keyboard lifters
Arnold benched over 500 when he competed in powerlifting
3:55 Arnold looked soooo impressive
he did, bodybuilding is out of wack these days
All of the lifts from Chris are in the gym. He has video of everything. It was different in the 60s and 70s. Arnold was stronger. But that’s doesn’t mean Chris is weak by any stretch. Both are great and will go down as legends. Arnold already has.
Can't hold a candle to Arnold's phyciqes. Absolutely insane. All of Arnold's proportions are so even and massive
That was what they went after at the time. Not just massive but proportionate.
All the vids of Chris arent PR's though, they're just working sets where it's clear he's calling it quits before actual form breakdown. I wouldn't say this is as representative of his actual strength as Ronnie's training footage is
Squat I agree but the Bench press and Deadlift are his PR's
@@StrengthUniverse There's recent footage of CBum repping _six_ plates (for 5 or 6 reps) 👀
@@alistairwillock7266 but Arnold is the *terminator*
@@StrengthUniverse do an updated video then, Cbum has gotten stronger since this and he doesn’t go for max weight but for reps
There's no claims of Chris's "personal bests" off video either.
Nobody will ever beat Arnold in my eyes, the best looking bodybuilder of all time and his motivation videos give me goosebumps. I wish I had 10% of his genetic makeup and drive to succeed
This is why strength is so important in bodybuilding. You have to be extremely careful though. Only lift heavy when you feel strong and well-rested. When your joints are sore, cut your workout short. If you push past the pain to always lift heavy, you're going to one day be stuck on machines and light weights forever due to irreparable injuries. Train heavy, but train smart
you are so fking right and i can relate. Thank you for your comment sir. I will listen to what you said. Good reminder.
Arnold caught me off-guard at 3:55 xD
I mean he's so young here, and he already looked amazing...
You can't compare Arnold to today's bodybuilders.
1: the man is a legend.
2: Bodybuilding was different then than it is today. Today they are MUCH bigger and more muscular
'Today they are MUCH bigger and more muscular'. They are much bigger (including their stomachs) because of the truckloads of drugs they take.
They went for aesthetics as well as strength at the time. It wasn't whether they could bench press a VMW, it was whether they could do it while looking like a Greek God.
Both are amazing. I think Arnold has a little heavier bone structure. That can make a considerable difference.
Arnold had bigger genetic size on his muscles, he had longer muscles you could say. This points to him having it easier to get stronger than Chris Bumstead
Do you even lift?
Maximus strength mostly from a cross sektion of the muskler, not the length.
If anything it’s easier to lift heavy Wien you are shorter, because of the range
Bro science 🤦♂️😂
@@moellerbaben Yes it's easier to lift with shorter arms. But if two induviduals with equal arm lengh compare strength, the one with long muscles and short tendons are more likely to win against the guy with short muscles and long tendons. Long tendons are great for other things though such as punching, kicking, sprinting, jumping, but not for power lifting.
Watching your videos I can really appreciate the conversion from kilos to pounds. Thanks for the effort
3:56 wow !!!...that's why they called the nbr 01 of the bodybuilders legends💪👍
I agree mate
Arnold said in his book that his lifts are completely based on his training cycle, so he was to flat bench for couple years straight he couldve done as much as 405 x 16
arnold is what everyone chases
I enjoyed this. Wasn’t biased, just gave facts to the best of your knowledge.
I appreciate that!
2 incredible athletes with no doubt
I agree, incredibly closely matched
Chris Bumstead hasn’t really been healthy since like 2018, I know he’s gone through a series of shoulder and hamstring issues
What bodybuilder is healthy?
@@TheBcoolGuy Me.
@@MeanBeanComedy Okay Bean, Bean okay. What successful bodybuilder is healthy?
@@nonachyourbusiness1164 Ha! 😆😝 Got me! I dunno, I'd guess the older school guys who weren't Insulin-resistant?
As much as I am a big fan of Chris, I would say that I still believe that Arnold is the best bodybuilder ever lived. At least so far.
Arnold did serious powerlifting with attending competitions before he started bodybuilding. Something people often don't know when starting his programs lol.
This video was so thoughtful and amazing lol the side by sides, the fair analysis (gym lift vs verified lifts, assists, training age), the Grace and credit given to each respective of the limitations of the info…this was perfect entertainment for a gym rat bodybuilder 😅 made my morning
Thanks G G, really appreciated
Arnold's chest calves and biceps make his physique iconic
It’s crazy how huge Arnold’s chest was. They look like huge bean bags. That dude was soo huge in an era where information was limited. He’s got the best proportions and aesthetics with a spectacular small waist.
The Oak had a flex that added 75lbs to the illusion. 1974 Arnold was the most strong, combined with an athletic look I've personally ever seen. Today's giant bodybuilders are missing the athletic appearance in my humble opinion.
You're spot on.
Interesting take. Arnold admitted that he only did leisurely runs up and down the beach when he was training just to take in the view. Or just some cycling. Nothing serious. To get lean he would reduce carbs. I wonder if he is leaving out some sort of cardio he did in the gym?
I have yet to see a physique as complete as Arnolds. His chest is unreal.
imagine arnold on modern celltech, training and diet. hitting the gym hard until he is 37
This is the most interessting comparison i could imagine its Pretty much 1975 Bodybuilding vs 2022 Bodybuilding.
Could you imagine Arnold in 2022 with all the advancements with supplements training equipment ect
I think Arnold has the most well rounded physique of all time.
Nah his legs and shoulders were lacking
Flex wheeler had the most rounded physique.
Nice joke
His legs and shoulders were incredibly lacking. You’re just worshipping the past through sentiments rather than reality
They’re both champions, such dedication makes them both top athletes.
200kg in 1968 is a different level
Absolutely! The sheer amount and variety of synthetics these guys are taking today isn't even comparable to what Arnold had at his disposal. Put Arnold in today's competition and the scale is easily tipping at over 300lbs. You simply cannot compare what he did 5 decades ago to today's bodybuilders. Arnold is forever the GOAT. And is mindset? Unparalleled and in a class of it's own.
Thanks for the video!
That thumbnail of arnold is the perfect physic. Would love to know which exercises would give me this to a tee
Not a doubt in my mind. It was Arnold who got me into weight training after reading the book Pumping Iron. He is most definitely stronger and had a better physique than any modern bodybuilder since.
Love that first clip of CBum working out at a GoodLife gym 🤣
Cbum is the modern version of what Arnold(The G.O.A.T) would be in these times
Cbum is better, but arnold had better delts. They are way different though, its not a fair comparison.
Even with the internet most ppl don't even know WTF Chris is! Arnold in his prime as body builder was a global icon. Winning almost everything!
I think it's amazing how Arnold is still considered the gold standard (No pun intended) for a sport that's been vastly influenced by scientific advances. Lifters in Arnold's era could only speculate about the optimal diet, recovery periods, etc.
Love this comparison! Legends of bodybuilding. May I ask for the song name at 2:33?
Hi mate, please you enjoyed it, song is: Voices - Patrick Patrikios
@@StrengthUniverse Thank you, no problem. Suggestion for the next comparison: Tom Stoltman vs Mateusz Kieliszkowski.
Arnold is Arnold. King. Legend. The Best.
Arnold as classic 👌 physic still haved best shape cheast & biceps size also
Real strong! Love the content keep it up
Thanks Zack
@@StrengthUniverse np bro keep up with the great content
was according to sources 245 in 1974 but we have very few pictures and video footage.
Motivate and Elevate!
Ótimo vídeo . Arnold era muito forte pra época
Thank you
No one can be Arnold, he is the only body builder I’ve looked at and thought he’s born natural. It’s not gross with him.
Fuuuck I woulda loved to see these 2 go at it for Mr. Olympia. Now granted technology is way better today than in Arnold’s time so props to Arnold, but I wonder what the judges would say because those physiques at 4:45 are IDENTICAL
Arnold in the new era would be different, incomparable
it's just incomparable already at the time of Arnold Schwarzenegger they did not take the same products at all. moreover, knowledge and training were limited.
Arnold rest for me the Best chest of ever.
Can you explain the products and improvements? And they did have the equipment they don’t need some fancy machine they all trained the same muscles
And they did have knowledge on training, check out mike Mentzer and his training philosophy
Really good comparison!
Thanks Aron
What's crazy is how they are similar in every way in terms of their physical attributes even though there is over a 50 year difference in technology
It's one of those the prodigy vs the legend ones
As a kid I was amazed, watching all those bodybuilders and powerlifters playing with those weights as if they're some kind of toys. Now at the age of 32 I'm the one lifting as much as these guys. My younger self would be proud :)
LIGHT WEIGHT BABY!!!
I did not know Chris was that strong
Technically Arnold was just over 6'1 some will say 6'1.5 but he was actually 6'1.2 , hes much shorter now as he is much older.
Man Narrator is so polite❤😭
4:33 Cbum gets absolutely mogged
It blows my mind that I’m even close to the deadlift of Chris Bumstead, so far I’m at 610lbs for a double.
Who?
Susano assistance doesn’t count tho
@@talkingmango8658 Asked
So what?
Nice bro keep it up
Great video and I think they are pretty close. For the era Arnold was in. I'd have to give it to him. But barely
Thanks Doug, I agree, taking era's into account it goes to Arnold
3:57 wow.. those biceps 💪 really big
Everyone lifting more than Arny, but nobody will ever look as good as him. His looks are still unmatched to this day.
AS is in the guiness book of world records for symmetry.
Would love to be this strong.
Arnolds Aesthaetic is unmatched to this day.
Arnold moved different. One he touched a bar his machine of a body moves the weight. I personally believe he can lift any weight
Ronnie vs Arnold please make video
Have a search of my videos buddy; I made it a few weeks ago
@@StrengthUniverse OK bro 👌
I think Chris bumstead can bench more than 405
Not that 405 isnt a good number but considering his weight and peds use he should be able to bench more
@@bubaba8938 imagine thinking that 184kg bench is not good🤣
@@alessiobubbles5345 For a natural it's a life goal that few achieve. Friend of mine hit that number after 12 years of lifting and 5 years leater he still hasn't been able to lift more.He's like the same size of bumstead except that he's around 25% bf.
@@bubaba8938 oh yea I misunderstood your comment sorry
I completely agree
Do a lot of body builders bench press?
I can't believe baxter Dury is the commentator
IN THE NEXT VIDEO NEW SCHOOL VS OLD SCHOOL
JHON HAACK VS ED COAN PLEASE...🙏💪💣💥
Great video
A 310kg deadlift no belt is amazing and much stronger than 306kg for 3.
I didn't know that cbum was from Canada
both my parents competed nationally but i dident think he was this close to arnolds max bench, my dads personal best is 220. Wow
Upper body-arnold
Lowerhalf -cbun
Should do Franco Columbu vs Chris
Arnold is for me the best bodybuilder and actor ever
Lol not even top ten acting wise lol
great video nice music
Thanks Bill
The biceps say it all
how are their bench and squat basically the same weight?
Nice video
In my opinion Arnold is the best forever
I think Cbum is the closest anyone's ever been to matching Arnold in physique. I'd like to see them meet.
Idk I think before Callum Vonmonger got hurt, his face and build was damn near identical to Arnold. Like a clone. His physique was getting there. But that damn accident.
Joel Kellett
Only Arnold can be Arnold
Can you do one of these on Tom Platz?
CBum Squat is a bit better, the evidence is clear Cbum legs better than Arnold legs, but overall i still pick Arnold.
Could you make a video about how strong was Brock Lesnar? I am thinking of a video similar to the one about Greg Kovacs. Brock Lesnar was very strong but I think the WWE might have overstated his numbers.
Hey Robert, I've researched Brock's lifts before and as you mention, I agree that "WWE overstated his numbers". Someone else on UA-cam has made a video called something like "Could Brock Lesnar have been World's Strongest Man" and I don't want that person thinking I'm having a dig at his video so while I will make a video about Brock I will leave it a few weeks first