Sinner is going from strength to strength. He's so quick and his rally tolerance and ability to dig deep are impressive. With this form, if he stays fit, it won't be long before he gets his first slam.
Gill Gross, I am disappointed in you!...2 ATP 500 finals took place Sunday and you talk about Sinner's for 36 minutes and only 5 minutes on Felix and only to attempt to discredit his tenacious and brilliant performance that led to a well deserved ATP 500 win!...You are not better than Jimmy Arias who couldn't say even one positive comment on Felix...Making excuses for losers is an easy way out...however the fact of the matter is Felix Auger Aliassime won by beating very good players and certainly will beat them again because he is a very talented...one of the top 20 best!...I hope you can see my criticism of you constructively...
This win over Meddy is, is by far, more important then the one in Beijing. In Beijing Medvedev was taken by surprise by Sinner's improvement in the front court game. In Vienna Meddy made him understand from the very beginning that he was ready to cunterpunch. Sinner had to change immediately his game plan and got forced to play on Meddy's terms. Everybody knows that playing Medvedev from the back of the court is a real nightmare on this surface. Surprise, surprise, for the first time Sinner beated Meddy playing on his terms showing him that, unlike it happened in Rotterdam, he is adding phisical resistence to his portfolio. From this point of view this match is a true milestone for Jannik. He climbed one more important step towards what he wants to become in the close future. As Jannik says "it is not a sprint. It is a marathon.", and these wins over such a difficult player for him ( and many others actually) to beat show that his efforts and his patience are paying back.
Great analysis as always. What a super match that was in Vienna. Sinner was incredible from baseline. Best ATP match this year apart from Cincinatti final. Loving this new top 4 they are really bringing it!
Jannik keeps on impressing me, you can clearly see how hard he works to improve every aspect of the game. BTW no idea what there is in Vienna that makes players always play so well. Matches always deliver there not to mention the atmosphere is amazing too. Really love that tournament.
Did we watched the best Sinner ever? Yes, we did. So far. Impressive improvements with net game and service. He beated three top players in top form and four top players overall.
Fantastic analysis Gill, I think your best yet. I recall you saying about a year ago that Sinner was losing some matches because he wasn't able to adapt his playing style, and the strides he has taken to develop his strengths and his weaknesses is really impressive. I do think though against someone as good as Novak he would need to up that break point conversion rate - but fair point that he is able to create a lot. I am relieved we are starting to see a worthy rival for Alcaraz (aside from Novak obviously).
Hi Gill,great analysis! Thanks for putting into words what I saw for 3h of the match but could not pinpoint what it was-crazy angles by Jannik, angles changing, bulletproof 1st serve, and RALLY RALLY RALLY TOLERANCE 💪 his on court aggression reminds me of Federer but I'd like to hear your opinion. Keep on the great work
Angles are such an underrated tactic in tennis. Each of the big 3 used them a lot, or even adjusted to use them more in certain matchups. Obviously as Gill said, it’s very difficult to execute which I think is why casual tennis fans rarely mention it as a tactic, but the pros definitely try to employ angles often.
Hubi got injured during the first set tiebreak. He was in pain especially while serving. Agreed Felix won the tournament but it wasn’t a brilliant performance. However a win is a win and I’ll take anything I can get as he’s had a terrible season. Hope Hubi is okay for Paris and makes the ATP Finals. It was upsetting to see him injured.
@@ProMikus Yes, he was grimacing but I’m just stating the facts. He didn’t call for the trainer and he was serving well. Of course Felix is having a very bad season, partly due to injuries and the amount of tennis he played last year.
Yes he didn’t call the trainer but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t hurt. It was clear he was in pain as he could barely move without grimacing. As far as Hubi’s serve goes it’s arguably the best serve in the world. He could hit 200km/hr serves in his sleep he’s that good imo! I just hope he’s okay as I really want him to make the ATP Finals.
Why make excuses for losing!..Felix beat very good players as he has done many times before!...quarter final match was tough and hard fought...but Felix persevered especially when it really counted...that gave him more confidence he needed for the semis and finals...and any unbiased person knows that when Felix plays with confidence, he performs wonderfully...Gill Gross and those trying to find reasons to not give Felix the respect he rightfully deserves are, dare I say, hating!...Stop it!...
Gill, thank you for your great analysis! I agree with you that it was impressive Sinner dared to cope with Medvedev’s baseline game and won it that way. About the backhand, in general with the two handed BH players don’t flex the left wrist and they finish the stroke with the racket over the shoulder and the hitting face of the racket open upwards. But sometimes players flex the left wrist a little bit to create angle, the racket kind of rolls over the top of the ball a little bit to keep the ball shorter, otherwise it will land outside of the sideline, and you will see they finish the racket on the side of their body with the hitting face of the racket facing down. I noticed Sinner used this technique a lot in this game.
I like how just 2-3 weeks ago we were talking about how Sinner arguably played the best match of his career against Medvedev, and now he basically did it again against Medvedev, with the only difference being that Medvedev also played a near 10/10 match. The only critique for either player I have is Medvedev was a bit “un-clutch” here. Had a decent amount of opportunities in that first set and he also missed a sitter forehand at the net on break point at 3-5 in the third. Also, maybe if he had served the 2nd set out at 5-2, he could’ve entered the third set with more confidence and less fatigue. But then again, he saved like 7-8 break points early in the third before he finally cracked to Sinner, so you can’t be too harsh on him. Overall Medvedev has played so well this indoor season, on arguably his best surfaces, but Sinner is the reason he’s come up empty. That’s how great Sinner has been. Paris is gonna be really interesting. Let’s see if Alcaraz comes back well-rested and in slightly better form, and we’ll see what form Djokovic is in after over a month off. I hope Sinner doesn’t take an early “fatigue” loss like he did at Shanghai, but if he does I guess it’ll be good for his ATP Finals chances.
This might be an amateur take but is it me or does it feel like we are slowly heading back to the pre-baseline-only era of the 90s and earlier where players favour faster surfaces and slowly steer back to the good old serve and volley style play?
Where've you been? This has been happening for the past few years now. New decade, new generation, & everyone wanting something else from the game. Everything has cycles as the pendulum swings back & forth. The courts were fast & America was dominant for decades on serve, then they made the courts slower to disrupt this & Eurasian dominance became the norm as players with less than stellar serves clawed their way to victory through stubborn rallies. Now we're back to faster courts & an all court game.
It’s complicated. I think that the tactics swung very far towards baseline grinding in recent years due to surfaces slowing down. But then, many players realized that they could take advantage of the top players standing way back by rushing the net more. Recently I think we’ve seen incredibly well-rounded tennis players for this reason. Everyone needs to know how to volley if they want to beat the best. Sinner is learning, Zverev is getting better, Nadal and Djokovic both significantly improved their volleys (though I always thought Nadal was good, just not as confident at net), and of course Alcaraz really combines the old school with modern tactics. But tennis will never be serve-and-volley, 80s style tennis ever again. S&V just can’t be a top player’s plan A. It’ll always be used as a changeup tactic, at most once or twice per game by top players. Medvedev leaves himself vulnerable to S&V, but he’s still very capable of hitting awesome passing shots like he did against Sinner. Imo it’s for the better. Tennis has more well-rounded players at the top now because the slow surfaces force you to adapt your game a lot. I’d also point out that a lot of the outdoor hard courts, especially USO, have been sped up a fair amount. If only they’d get rid of these dead balls though.
@@SJ-di5zu They've been speeding up the surfaces to reintroduce more variety into the game. Endless baseline rallies have become stale & contributed to injuries (as have heavier balls).
Hey Gill What do you think of Robbie Koenig's description of Sinners tactic to "Serve & Survey" as opposed to S&V?😄. The idea being that Sinner would wait at the baseline for the return before pouncing for the volley.
It was serve, survey, & volley. Dinner got burned by passing shots & realized he was being overeager & too transparent with his strategy. Overcooked some shots during pressure points in that first set, but still played better than Meddie who is too stubborn to add more elements to his game. Now everyone has his number thanks to You-Know-Who.
Don't forget, Sinner is South-Tyrolian. His hometown is literally a few km away from the Austrian border and almost 100 years ago this region belonged to Austria. It was almost a home-game for him. He speaks German (even though with a strong Tyrolian accent) fluently and therefore the Austrian crowed rooted for him as all of the other Austrian players already exited the tournament in round 1.
What changes here is simply that Sinner is only 22 and started playing tennis full time quite late compared to most other players. Provided that he had a good coaching team, which he has, he was bound to get better over time.
Agree on FAA, super lucky to get away with it. He played very consistent with no downs though, which (because of his attributes) makes him instantly top 15. Add some hobbled opponents, and some immature ones, and you got a great recipe for a title. I did detect some improvements in his game: more decisive on volley, more margin and angle on forehand and use of slice quite a bit on the BH.
Yeah ig the backhand winners at the end of tiebreakers are all lucky. Ig the slice approaches into the net and putaway volleys were just handed to Felix. It's all luck and injuries and fatigue am I right? Almost like a certain 36-year-old gets all the credit for winning cuz of injuries at the French Open but Felix won a "flukey" title cuz of injuries and luck and fatigue. Can't believe people actually are discrediting Felix for his run and meanwhile, they keep celebrating like 13-year-old girls about Casper Ruud's Mickey Mouse runs.
lmao "get away with it", can people at least let the guy off the hook for once? He's been shambolic all year with his level and with his injuries, now in Basel he played great stuff all week and it's not like he's getting these wins via walkover, he deserved this title and you can't take that away from him
@@robinreviews5077 No, its not all luck. He played very well and consistent throughout. He served incredibly well. Its just that if you win a match when you get broken at 4-4 in the third and save a match point...there's a bit of luck involved. If you struggle all year to win a match and then you win the tournament you won last year to keep from falling out of top 20... that's what I mean with getting away with it. He played great.
@@Mr7Poz yeah and when djokovic and nadal does that while their opponents choke they are considered mentally tough. as if the sport becomes different when someone else is playing.
FAA salvaged his ranking in a huge way at Basel. There was a possibility of him falling out of the top 50 after Paris, but instead he will only fall to around number 30 with a first round loss at Paris now.
Gill, a brief analysis of the Sinner-Rublev semifinal? I was impressed by the depth, pace and open angles from Rublev. Is this the way to win Sinner in hardcourts? Rublev, poor mental strenght made him to loose the match. What do you think?
Sinner is on the rise, this was a great test and he over came it! Come on Jannik! Love him Novak is my fav player but Sinner is going to replace him as my new Fav since Novak won't be around for much longer! He reminds me of Novak his style, they way he defends etc. Not quite as good as Novak yet! But getting there!
If Sinner wins more tourny than Alcaraz in the next few years, all these fedalistas will turn on Carlitos and will become self proclaimed life long Sinner fans in an instant 😂
No, absolutely not. His game is too similar to Djokovic. He won this match from the baseline, out-rallying, out-Meddying Meddy. Sure he finished off some points at the net, as plenty others do too, but he's still learning how to close down the net & hasnt mastered it like Fed. No-one has. Watching these two is like watching Rafa v Djoko pre-Covid. Long long rallies & defense-based. Carlos is nowhere close to Federer's game, altho he IS an attacking player, but he's more into drop-shotting and shooting winners. Carlos is not too happy on fast courts & does better on outside courts. He did win Wimby, but has to repeat that - took Djoko by surprise who just brought another mentality against The Fed at Wimby. Novak didnt think he'd need to play to that level vs Carlos, who btw hasnt played close to that level since- even uninjured. I dont expect Carlos to defend his Title and I think Sinner might out-rally Djoko next year there -it's all about his fitness & stamina now. Sure, we like Carlos, his tennis is a breath of fresh air, tho personally Im getting very tired of the the reliance on dropshots but we're still waiting for the reality to catch up with the hype. My eye is on others coming up.
Is it really that hard for Djokovic fanboys to understand that Alcaraz plays really fun and aesthetic tennis? Djokovic said it himself. Of course we all love watching him. He’s also a class act who doesn’t smash rackets or mock celebrations. I’m gonna be an Alcaraz fan regardless, but Sinner is pretty fun to watch and has a good head on his shoulders. Luckily, I can support multiple players, unlike the Djokovic bots that copy-and-paste hate comments for every other player that’s not their glorious king
It is funny how often Medvedev has gotten in fights over apologizing about a net cord. I feel like 95% of players don’t really care much, but Medvedev is out here like “you don’t apologize for a net cord and you think you are good kid?” Haha. Also agreed on FAA’s title run, but it’s still a huge step in the right direction. I mean last week it was considered a big deal that FAA won 2 matches in a row, which is ridiculous for a guy who finished last year in the top 8.
I don't think Gill's comments are entirely fair to Felix. More like Felix won but he wasn't rigorously tested. Who knows how he would have done against Sinner?
Everybody is over hyping the kid. But my gut sense tells me that Sinner is probably the next big thing in Tennis who can easily win more than 10 slams.
Winning 10 majors isn't normal. Remember until Sampras only Bjorn Borg had won more than 10 majors during the open era. Since Sampras only Nadal Federer and NovAk have won 10 or more!
@@MrBjorn6 Sinner is only 22; he has tremendous potential. Novak is almost 37 and I don't see him dominating past 38 albeit he might still end up winning slams occasionally.
Didn’t you say before the Wimbledon final that Alcaraz would get killed, then said after the final that the “wind was the reason he lost”? Also that “Western media is the only reason he has hype?” Perhaps you’re just under hyping him. Maybe due to racism.
@@SJ-di5zu I never made prediction before Wimbledon final ?? You are mistaken. I fancied Novak to win ofcourse, but he lost due to fluke. Wind did play a part too. Let us see how the future unfolds ?? Nothing is certain??
Sinner was hellishly stubborn to claim his 2nd consecutive 500 title & 10th ATP overall, but the more interesting story is arguably with the Bear. Meddiocre was sloppy giving up a 3-1 lead in the 1st, a 5-2 lead in the 2nd & then that epic 4th game in the 3rd. Not good. The Bear won 5 titles in a four-month period from February to May, but since then has noticeably underperformed in 2023. Not since Miami has Meddie won on a hard court. His lack of titles on what is supposed to be his best surface does not bode well for Paris & Turin. Meddie & his team have a lot of work to do for next year in terms of finding another level to his fitness & gameplay if he ever hopes to win another Slam let alone win a title twice. The next gen are already here & they don't have the sort of weaknesses that will allow for specialists like Meddie to continue to prosper so comfortably.
@@colethomas903 Same. Miami was his biggest hard court title of 2023 & that was back around March. After May, he has underperformed & failed to construct a real game plan for the USO final. Not good. He has a lot of work to do in the off season if he wants better hard court results next year.
Gill Gross, I am disappointed in you!...and here is why:..........2 ATP 500 finals took place last Sunday. Sinner and Felix won, but here you are talking about Sinner's performance for 36 minutes and only 5 minutes about Felix, where you attempt to discredit his tenacious and brilliant performance that led to a well deserved ATP 500 win!...In my view, Felix's win is more impressive because he is the one who was injured for quite a few months! I thought you were fare and impartial but in this regard, you are no better than grumpy Jimmy Arias who couldn't say even one positive comment on Felix throughout the whole week!...Making excuses or justification for losing is an easy way out...however the fact of the matter is Felix Auger Aliassime won! And he did it by beating very good players...and certainly will win more matches and tournaments because he is very talented...He has and will dominate matches and tournaments as he just proudly and confidently defended his title in Basel...I trust and hope you can see my criticism of you constructively...
@@sciagurrato1831 I think it can be read both ways. Sinner was better in Beijing because he was able to impose his own game, or Sinner was better here in Vienna by beating Medvedev at his own game. At the end they are just points of view lol, what counts is the result
you got to be out of your mind if you think sinner got lucky. medvedev was lucky to be in this match period. all those net bounces and line shots went medvedev’s way but sinner outrallied medvedev despite luck and stamina going against him. if you think otherwise you are either delusional or haven’t watched the match.
I feel you can have that impression but in Vienna he beated Shepton, Rublev and Medvedev all in top form and performing greatly.. At the end, I don't agree with your comment
I was thrilled with Jannik's win and I agree with FAA's title, not a lot to crow about for him with that, we will see what his future matches look like.
Sinner is going from strength to strength. He's so quick and his rally tolerance and ability to dig deep are impressive. With this form, if he stays fit, it won't be long before he gets his first slam.
He needs to work on his drop shots and find a few more weapons. But he is getting sharper and better.
agree, with his current form he is a huge favorite for australian open. Curious to see how he handles Djokovic and Zverev though
His only issue Is physical after 4/5 sets
Gill Gross, I am disappointed in you!...2 ATP 500 finals took place Sunday and you talk about Sinner's for 36 minutes and only 5 minutes on Felix and only to attempt to discredit his tenacious and brilliant performance that led to a well deserved ATP 500 win!...You are not better than Jimmy Arias who couldn't say even one positive comment on Felix...Making excuses for losers is an easy way out...however the fact of the matter is Felix Auger Aliassime won by beating very good players and certainly will beat them again because he is a very talented...one of the top 20 best!...I hope you can see my criticism of you constructively...
This win over Meddy is, is by far, more important then the one in Beijing. In Beijing Medvedev was taken by surprise by Sinner's improvement in the front court game. In Vienna Meddy made him understand from the very beginning that he was ready to cunterpunch. Sinner had to change immediately his game plan and got forced to play on Meddy's terms. Everybody knows that playing Medvedev from the back of the court is a real nightmare on this surface. Surprise, surprise, for the first time Sinner beated Meddy playing on his terms showing him that, unlike it happened in Rotterdam, he is adding phisical resistence to his portfolio. From this point of view this match is a true milestone for Jannik. He climbed one more important step towards what he wants to become in the close future. As Jannik says "it is not a sprint. It is a marathon.", and these wins over such a difficult player for him ( and many others actually) to beat show that his efforts and his patience are paying back.
I wouldn't say by far, but it was interesting to see him get frustrated and then strategize and start moving med side to side more
Great analysis as always. What a super match that was in Vienna. Sinner was incredible from baseline. Best ATP match this year apart from Cincinatti final. Loving this new top 4 they are really bringing it!
Jannik keeps on impressing me, you can clearly see how hard he works to improve every aspect of the game.
BTW no idea what there is in Vienna that makes players always play so well. Matches always deliver there not to mention the atmosphere is amazing too. Really love that tournament.
Did we watched the best Sinner ever? Yes, we did. So far. Impressive improvements with net game and service. He beated three top players in top form and four top players overall.
Fantastic analysis Gill, I think your best yet. I recall you saying about a year ago that Sinner was losing some matches because he wasn't able to adapt his playing style, and the strides he has taken to develop his strengths and his weaknesses is really impressive. I do think though against someone as good as Novak he would need to up that break point conversion rate - but fair point that he is able to create a lot. I am relieved we are starting to see a worthy rival for Alcaraz (aside from Novak obviously).
I want to see Medvedev and sinner in 5 sets.
Thank you Gill, best tennis 🎾 analyst, I can listen to you all day about any player or any tennis match, thank you 🙏🏻
Gill is very knowledgeable and so unbias. He's very logical and well informed like a new Bud Collins 🤔
I'm so glad Jannik was able to pull this off. Thank you for the insightful analysis as always.
Hi Gill,great analysis! Thanks for putting into words what I saw for 3h of the match but could not pinpoint what it was-crazy angles by Jannik, angles changing, bulletproof 1st serve, and RALLY RALLY RALLY TOLERANCE 💪 his on court aggression reminds me of Federer but I'd like to hear your opinion. Keep on the great work
I know, such good match and such an enjoyable and thought analysis.
Angles are such an underrated tactic in tennis. Each of the big 3 used them a lot, or even adjusted to use them more in certain matchups. Obviously as Gill said, it’s very difficult to execute which I think is why casual tennis fans rarely mention it as a tactic, but the pros definitely try to employ angles often.
Spectarcular match to watch congrats to sinner for the title winning🏆👏👏
Looking more and more like Sinner can be a real contendor for Slams.
He still hasn't beaten Djokovic so that'll be his test.
Sinner gonna be my player to follow after Djokovic retires
A lot of similarities in game, thankfully not in temperament.
@@lsb9073 Yes, the terror of having to hear the evil Serb shout every once in a while! Think of the children!
@@lsb9073ya that's sinners only downside, he doesn't have that personality
Hubi got injured during the first set tiebreak. He was in pain especially while serving. Agreed Felix won the tournament but it wasn’t a brilliant performance. However a win is a win and I’ll take anything I can get as he’s had a terrible season. Hope Hubi is okay for Paris and makes the ATP Finals. It was upsetting to see him injured.
He was injured but he didn’t call the trainer and he was constantly serving above 215 km/h.
@@leokomando7536 he was visibly hurt moving, its not faa's fault he won vs injured player, he needs much more to be considered "back"
@@ProMikus Yes, he was grimacing but I’m just stating the facts. He didn’t call for the trainer and he was serving well.
Of course Felix is having a very bad season, partly due to injuries and the amount of tennis he played last year.
Yes he didn’t call the trainer but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t hurt. It was clear he was in pain as he could barely move without grimacing. As far as Hubi’s serve goes it’s arguably the best serve in the world. He could hit 200km/hr serves in his sleep he’s that good imo! I just hope he’s okay as I really want him to make the ATP Finals.
Why make excuses for losing!..Felix beat very good players as he has done many times before!...quarter final match was tough and hard fought...but Felix persevered especially when it really counted...that gave him more confidence he needed for the semis and finals...and any unbiased person knows that when Felix plays with confidence, he performs wonderfully...Gill Gross and those trying to find reasons to not give Felix the respect he rightfully deserves are, dare I say, hating!...Stop it!...
What a pleasure! Your analysis are very very deep clever and accurate.... I think the best analysis on web
Gill, thank you for your great analysis! I agree with you that it was impressive Sinner dared to cope with Medvedev’s baseline game and won it that way. About the backhand, in general with the two handed BH players don’t flex the left wrist and they finish the stroke with the racket over the shoulder and the hitting face of the racket open upwards. But sometimes players flex the left wrist a little bit to create angle, the racket kind of rolls over the top of the ball a little bit to keep the ball shorter, otherwise it will land outside of the sideline, and you will see they finish the racket on the side of their body with the hitting face of the racket facing down. I noticed Sinner used this technique a lot in this game.
I like how just 2-3 weeks ago we were talking about how Sinner arguably played the best match of his career against Medvedev, and now he basically did it again against Medvedev, with the only difference being that Medvedev also played a near 10/10 match.
The only critique for either player I have is Medvedev was a bit “un-clutch” here. Had a decent amount of opportunities in that first set and he also missed a sitter forehand at the net on break point at 3-5 in the third. Also, maybe if he had served the 2nd set out at 5-2, he could’ve entered the third set with more confidence and less fatigue. But then again, he saved like 7-8 break points early in the third before he finally cracked to Sinner, so you can’t be too harsh on him.
Overall Medvedev has played so well this indoor season, on arguably his best surfaces, but Sinner is the reason he’s come up empty. That’s how great Sinner has been. Paris is gonna be really interesting. Let’s see if Alcaraz comes back well-rested and in slightly better form, and we’ll see what form Djokovic is in after over a month off. I hope Sinner doesn’t take an early “fatigue” loss like he did at Shanghai, but if he does I guess it’ll be good for his ATP Finals chances.
Good video and analysis!
My man Gill working like a dog to get this, and the Paris draw preview out. I know he’ll get it done
This might be an amateur take but is it me or does it feel like we are slowly heading back to the pre-baseline-only era of the 90s and earlier where players favour faster surfaces and slowly steer back to the good old serve and volley style play?
Where've you been? This has been happening for the past few years now. New decade, new generation, & everyone wanting something else from the game. Everything has cycles as the pendulum swings back & forth. The courts were fast & America was dominant for decades on serve, then they made the courts slower to disrupt this & Eurasian dominance became the norm as players with less than stellar serves clawed their way to victory through stubborn rallies. Now we're back to faster courts & an all court game.
Serve and volley is never going to be plan A again. More of an important change up.
It’s complicated. I think that the tactics swung very far towards baseline grinding in recent years due to surfaces slowing down. But then, many players realized that they could take advantage of the top players standing way back by rushing the net more. Recently I think we’ve seen incredibly well-rounded tennis players for this reason. Everyone needs to know how to volley if they want to beat the best. Sinner is learning, Zverev is getting better, Nadal and Djokovic both significantly improved their volleys (though I always thought Nadal was good, just not as confident at net), and of course Alcaraz really combines the old school with modern tactics.
But tennis will never be serve-and-volley, 80s style tennis ever again. S&V just can’t be a top player’s plan A. It’ll always be used as a changeup tactic, at most once or twice per game by top players. Medvedev leaves himself vulnerable to S&V, but he’s still very capable of hitting awesome passing shots like he did against Sinner.
Imo it’s for the better. Tennis has more well-rounded players at the top now because the slow surfaces force you to adapt your game a lot. I’d also point out that a lot of the outdoor hard courts, especially USO, have been sped up a fair amount. If only they’d get rid of these dead balls though.
@@SJ-di5zu They've been speeding up the surfaces to reintroduce more variety into the game. Endless baseline rallies have become stale & contributed to injuries (as have heavier balls).
Great match to watch!
Hey Gill
What do you think of Robbie Koenig's description of Sinners tactic to "Serve & Survey" as opposed to S&V?😄.
The idea being that Sinner would wait at the baseline for the return before pouncing for the volley.
I loved the expression serve & survey...lol
It was serve, survey, & volley. Dinner got burned by passing shots & realized he was being overeager & too transparent with his strategy. Overcooked some shots during pressure points in that first set, but still played better than Meddie who is too stubborn to add more elements to his game. Now everyone has his number thanks to You-Know-Who.
@@got2bjoshDinner? Overcooked? Is it Masterchef?
Don't forget, Sinner is South-Tyrolian. His hometown is literally a few km away from the Austrian border and almost 100 years ago this region belonged to Austria. It was almost a home-game for him. He speaks German (even though with a strong Tyrolian accent) fluently and therefore the Austrian crowed rooted for him as all of the other Austrian players already exited the tournament in round 1.
What changes here is simply that Sinner is only 22 and started playing tennis full time quite late compared to most other players. Provided that he had a good coaching team, which he has, he was bound to get better over time.
Agree on FAA, super lucky to get away with it. He played very consistent with no downs though, which (because of his attributes) makes him instantly top 15. Add some hobbled opponents, and some immature ones, and you got a great recipe for a title. I did detect some improvements in his game: more decisive on volley, more margin and angle on forehand and use of slice quite a bit on the BH.
Yeah ig the backhand winners at the end of tiebreakers are all lucky. Ig the slice approaches into the net and putaway volleys were just handed to Felix. It's all luck and injuries and fatigue am I right? Almost like a certain 36-year-old gets all the credit for winning cuz of injuries at the French Open but Felix won a "flukey" title cuz of injuries and luck and fatigue. Can't believe people actually are discrediting Felix for his run and meanwhile, they keep celebrating like 13-year-old girls about Casper Ruud's Mickey Mouse runs.
lmao "get away with it", can people at least let the guy off the hook for once? He's been shambolic all year with his level and with his injuries, now in Basel he played great stuff all week and it's not like he's getting these wins via walkover, he deserved this title and you can't take that away from him
@@robinreviews5077 No, its not all luck. He played very well and consistent throughout. He served incredibly well. Its just that if you win a match when you get broken at 4-4 in the third and save a match point...there's a bit of luck involved. If you struggle all year to win a match and then you win the tournament you won last year to keep from falling out of top 20... that's what I mean with getting away with it. He played great.
@@crosscourttennis1796 He's off the hook. I promise.
@@Mr7Poz yeah and when djokovic and nadal does that while their opponents choke they are considered mentally tough. as if the sport becomes different when someone else is playing.
FAA salvaged his ranking in a huge way at Basel. There was a possibility of him falling out of the top 50 after Paris, but instead he will only fall to around number 30 with a first round loss at Paris now.
Gill, a brief analysis of the Sinner-Rublev semifinal? I was impressed by the depth, pace and open angles from Rublev. Is this the way to win Sinner in hardcourts? Rublev, poor mental strenght made him to loose the match. What do you think?
Felix amazing fight , not amazing play ,that is very good improvement for confidence and consistency .
Sinner is on the rise, this was a great test and he over came it! Come on Jannik! Love him Novak is my fav player but Sinner is going to replace him as my new Fav since Novak won't be around for much longer! He reminds me of Novak his style, they way he defends etc. Not quite as good as Novak yet! But getting there!
1994 was the last time top 4 seeds were into semis of Vienna, not 1992
If Sinner wins more tourny than Alcaraz in the next few years, all these fedalistas will turn on Carlitos and will become self proclaimed life long Sinner fans in an instant 😂
Lol yes 😂😂
No, absolutely not. His game is too similar to Djokovic. He won this match from the baseline, out-rallying, out-Meddying Meddy. Sure he finished off some points at the net, as plenty others do too, but he's still learning how to close down the net & hasnt mastered it like Fed. No-one has.
Watching these two is like watching Rafa v Djoko pre-Covid. Long long rallies & defense-based.
Carlos is nowhere close to Federer's game, altho he IS an attacking player, but he's more into drop-shotting and shooting winners. Carlos is not too happy on fast courts & does better on outside courts. He did win Wimby, but has to repeat that - took Djoko by surprise who just brought another mentality against The Fed at Wimby. Novak didnt think he'd need to play to that level vs Carlos, who btw hasnt played close to that level since- even uninjured. I dont expect Carlos to defend his Title and I think Sinner might out-rally Djoko next year there -it's all about his fitness & stamina now.
Sure, we like Carlos, his tennis is a breath of fresh air, tho personally Im getting very tired of the the reliance on dropshots but we're still waiting for the reality to catch up with the hype.
My eye is on others coming up.
Is it really that hard for Djokovic fanboys to understand that Alcaraz plays really fun and aesthetic tennis? Djokovic said it himself. Of course we all love watching him. He’s also a class act who doesn’t smash rackets or mock celebrations. I’m gonna be an Alcaraz fan regardless, but Sinner is pretty fun to watch and has a good head on his shoulders. Luckily, I can support multiple players, unlike the Djokovic bots that copy-and-paste hate comments for every other player that’s not their glorious king
@@SJ-di5zu bandwagon weakdal fangirl is already triggered 😂😂
@@jugoslavnamljidjiu9021 😂
It is funny how often Medvedev has gotten in fights over apologizing about a net cord. I feel like 95% of players don’t really care much, but Medvedev is out here like “you don’t apologize for a net cord and you think you are good kid?” Haha.
Also agreed on FAA’s title run, but it’s still a huge step in the right direction. I mean last week it was considered a big deal that FAA won 2 matches in a row, which is ridiculous for a guy who finished last year in the top 8.
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I don't think Gill's comments are entirely fair to Felix. More like Felix won but he wasn't rigorously tested. Who knows how he would have done against Sinner?
Everybody is over hyping the kid. But my gut sense tells me that Sinner is probably the next big thing in Tennis who can easily win more than 10 slams.
Winning 10 majors isn't normal. Remember until Sampras only Bjorn Borg had won more than 10 majors during the open era. Since Sampras only Nadal Federer and NovAk have won 10 or more!
@@MrBjorn6 Sinner is only 22; he has tremendous potential. Novak is almost 37 and I don't see him dominating past 38 albeit he might still end up winning slams occasionally.
Didn’t you say before the Wimbledon final that Alcaraz would get killed, then said after the final that the “wind was the reason he lost”? Also that “Western media is the only reason he has hype?” Perhaps you’re just under hyping him. Maybe due to racism.
@@SJ-di5zu I never made prediction before Wimbledon final ?? You are mistaken. I fancied Novak to win ofcourse, but he lost due to fluke. Wind did play a part too.
Let us see how the future unfolds ?? Nothing is certain??
@@SJ-di5zuWimby was a fluke
if hurkacz didnt get injured i think he wouldve gotten the basel final
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Gill “Le Quip” … Medvedev got over 70% of his first serves in… AND HE LOST!
I despise “first” comments but uhh…first! 😅
Sinner was hellishly stubborn to claim his 2nd consecutive 500 title & 10th ATP overall, but the more interesting story is arguably with the Bear. Meddiocre was sloppy giving up a 3-1 lead in the 1st, a 5-2 lead in the 2nd & then that epic 4th game in the 3rd. Not good. The Bear won 5 titles in a four-month period from February to May, but since then has noticeably underperformed in 2023. Not since Miami has Meddie won on a hard court.
His lack of titles on what is supposed to be his best surface does not bode well for Paris & Turin. Meddie & his team have a lot of work to do for next year in terms of finding another level to his fitness & gameplay if he ever hopes to win another Slam let alone win a title twice. The next gen are already here & they don't have the sort of weaknesses that will allow for specialists like Meddie to continue to prosper so comfortably.
@got2josh I don’t think Medvedev will do anything big in Paris or Turin
@@colethomas903 Same. Miami was his biggest hard court title of 2023 & that was back around March. After May, he has underperformed & failed to construct a real game plan for the USO final. Not good. He has a lot of work to do in the off season if he wants better hard court results next year.
No underperformed by meddy he won clay masters, Wimbledon semifinal and us Open finals and Vienna finals, china open final. He has done incredibly
Gill Gross, I am disappointed in you!...and here is why:..........2 ATP 500 finals took place last Sunday. Sinner and Felix won, but here you are talking about Sinner's performance for 36 minutes and only 5 minutes about Felix, where you attempt to discredit his tenacious and brilliant performance that led to a well deserved ATP 500 win!...In my view, Felix's win is more impressive because he is the one who was injured for quite a few months! I thought you were fare and impartial but in this regard, you are no better than grumpy Jimmy Arias who couldn't say even one positive comment on Felix throughout the whole week!...Making excuses or justification for losing is an easy way out...however the fact of the matter is Felix Auger Aliassime won! And he did it by beating very good players...and certainly will win more matches and tournaments because he is very talented...He has and will dominate matches and tournaments as he just proudly and confidently defended his title in Basel...I trust and hope you can see my criticism of you constructively...
Generally Basel was a non event compared with Vienna.
Gill is right - despite the victory, Sinner was less impressive than in Beijing. He was lucky.
I thought he said the opposite, that this time Sinner won by beating Medvedev's at his own favorite game.
@@italnsdyou’re probably right. I’m reading into Gill’s comment on how Sinner was not good in the forecourt.
@@sciagurrato1831 I think it can be read both ways. Sinner was better in Beijing because he was able to impose his own game, or Sinner was better here in Vienna by beating Medvedev at his own game. At the end they are just points of view lol, what counts is the result
you got to be out of your mind if you think sinner got lucky. medvedev was lucky to be in this match period. all those net bounces and line shots went medvedev’s way but sinner outrallied medvedev despite luck and stamina going against him. if you think otherwise you are either delusional or haven’t watched the match.
I feel you can have that impression but in Vienna he beated Shepton, Rublev and Medvedev all in top form and performing greatly.. At the end, I don't agree with your comment
I was thrilled with Jannik's win and I agree with FAA's title, not a lot to crow about for him with that, we will see what his future matches look like.