ALGS Removing Contests... POI Draft CONFIRMED 🌶️ Superteam FLOP?!

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  • @JMeyelsALGS
    @JMeyelsALGS  28 днів тому

    20th pick 🤝1st Place

  • @citizenkage3564
    @citizenkage3564 28 днів тому +19

    I love the system but they have to ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO balance the POI’s if they’re going to force this system.

    • @estfatul744
      @estfatul744 28 днів тому +1

      why does that matter now and not previously? The POI should have always been balanced lol

    • @citizenkage3564
      @citizenkage3564 28 днів тому +2

      @@estfatul744 it’s always mattered and now hopefully they’ll do something about it.

    • @johnnycampbell429
      @johnnycampbell429 28 днів тому

      Yes hopefully they address the issue now that the pros are complaining since they mostly only listen to the pros opinions

    • @Jdrunnin
      @Jdrunnin 27 днів тому

      ​@@estfatul744it didn't matter before because no team had to land anywhere, they were always able to choose to contest for better POIs

  • @joaquinpangelinan9862
    @joaquinpangelinan9862 28 днів тому +43

    bro why don't they just play this shit regularly? like a BR and land wherever they want to? honest question

    • @romansandbrink5173
      @romansandbrink5173 28 днів тому +4

      Bc it makes it more fair

    • @DOC6752
      @DOC6752 28 днів тому +4

      Thinking they are just smarter than everyone else smh... this makes no sense what so ever

    • @hidan9233
      @hidan9233 28 днів тому +10

      Because it just creates a bullying system and teams that are doing awfull tend to say fuck it and throw someone else game

    • @darkalexander9158
      @darkalexander9158 28 днів тому +1

      ​@@DOC6752This is a genuinely smart and genuinely good idea. In the current state it has flaws but it is a genuinely good idea one that many others aren't confident enough to try due to how hard it will be to balance.

    • @Flaget2306
      @Flaget2306 28 днів тому +6

      @@darkalexander9158Naw this system is dumb, contest for POI’s you want, if you aren’t good enough then get better or land somewhere else. (Example Red Rams contesting for LRod, yeah granted they didn’t make finals but they won the contests against TSM)
      Also takes away a randomness of plays for BR (Ex- NTH griefing Furia)
      But again this is my take on what makes a good BR

  • @ve2dict
    @ve2dict 28 днів тому +5

    If you really are "the best" then win from any poi. I get both sides of the argument tbh. And it will be interesting to see how it works. Only way to find out is to give it a go

  • @b7shoota
    @b7shoota 28 днів тому +10

    Hal punching the air rn

  • @nickgunter153
    @nickgunter153 28 днів тому +15

    I get what they are trying to accomplish, competitive integrity.... however i agree with gnaske, they should've just balanced the loot in poi's and let people land where they want

  • @FROSTYYY2K
    @FROSTYYY2K 28 днів тому +4

    It’s a BR let them contest! Fair? The whole point of a BR is for their to be a lot of randomness which ends ‘unfairly’ for some and favourably for others. This will make it boring to watch. Early fights are the most exciting!

  • @190daes
    @190daes 28 днів тому +6

    Well if you think about it, it isn't guaranteed that you'll play well if you get a good POI, there are so many factors outside of loot to win a game. The ring can pull far from your POI and force you to play edge even though you're a zone team.

    • @estfatul744
      @estfatul744 28 днів тому +2

      they just want to have a word so they make up something to say

    • @aaronbroomfield4420
      @aaronbroomfield4420 28 днів тому +1

      I think the complaint is it adds even more RNG. Like zone pulls and loot are already random. Now add POI and a team could run into awful luck in a 6 game series. Still in favor of it but I feel like some modifications will be needed

    • @IRaoulDuke
      @IRaoulDuke 28 днів тому +3

      Yah how about respawn actually fix their zone randomizer, it's ridiculous a whole tournament can happen with no zones near certain poi's.

    • @daliguj221
      @daliguj221 28 днів тому

      @@IRaoulDukethat’s how randomness works. Maybe they could adjust it so it’s not completely random, in that it has a cap to how many consecutive similar zones can pop up

  • @markalexanderrow
    @markalexanderrow 28 днів тому +3

    I am surprised people think the POI change in Comp is good for viewers. I think they are very mistaken, as an avid viewer the early contests are one of the best parts of Apex Esports. Apex is a very slow game to watch until the last 4-8 minutes of the match. Because in the first 10ish minutes, not a lot happens. Most of the time first 2 zones close and there are still 18 teams alive poking each other. That is a long time to watch with nothing truly exciting happening. This will make the game much more boring to watch and I hope they pivot hard to something else. I like the idea of eliminating the drop ship, but they should make it so teams can still pick where they are dropping and be dropped there instantly, so if all 20 teams want to drop on the same spot they can. It would make contests still happen, but eliminate the RNG of flight paths, and make it so teams on match point could drop on a different POI if they wanted to in order to get anonymity.

  • @TheMikeMassengale
    @TheMikeMassengale 28 днів тому +2

    Pro's may hate this, but they never should have been allowed to do what they were doing up until now. It was horse shit that they were allowed to collude with each other over drop spots. No contact should be allowed between teams, and no deals should be allowed to be made between teams, both of which happens. For fucks sake we had Raven teaching ANOTHER TEAM how to contest a PoI so that TSM could have the one they wanted. Interesting to see if they will start doing this for the draft.

  • @EricFishes
    @EricFishes 27 днів тому

    I love your insight man

  • @squiggle1101
    @squiggle1101 28 днів тому +1

    They don't want fighting of spawn but want more 3rd parties

  • @kayjenofficial6799
    @kayjenofficial6799 28 днів тому +1

    Hal and DZ just alley-ooped Sweetdreams with Sikez

  • @zaibiali2670
    @zaibiali2670 28 днів тому

    I agree with you, for now thé problem IS if they stick together for a long time work on their synergy figur out their role in the team with the raw talent that these players have i think they will get to a point where they can get every 1st place in any tournement

  • @Masterfuron
    @Masterfuron 27 днів тому

    Why dont they have everyone drop at the same time from a fixed point in the sky. The farther POIs will get a speed boost/no cap on flying speed depending on height

  • @_Drek
    @_Drek 28 днів тому +1

    Just like everything Apex Devs implemented, the idea is half-baked

  • @timsloan9675
    @timsloan9675 27 днів тому

    This is just going to show what teams can adapt. Also idk how people are surprised Respawn has been making hella changes to limit some of RNG.

  • @SirtyDanchez
    @SirtyDanchez 24 дні тому

    I think this new system would work well with broken moon. The poi’s on that map are pretty balanced.

  • @MarcoASola
    @MarcoASola 28 днів тому +1

    Let’s be honest a CC team can land Siphon and not even know where circle is going. There is randomness but there’s more of a skill gap because you have to be versatile in every scenario now. So it’s a W change IMO.

  • @Moon_Knight1738
    @Moon_Knight1738 28 днів тому

    what abt during the later games the teams that get the higher picks towards the end get a way better chance of winning it all

  • @siniister710
    @siniister710 28 днів тому +29

    easy for wattson to say now that he's retired suddenly for the 5th time lol

    • @agentflipp865
      @agentflipp865 28 днів тому +1

      Quitters shouldn’t be allowed to comment changes in pro league

    • @onesteffen
      @onesteffen 28 днів тому +3

      But people how never did can? Lol

  • @ChrisFar
    @ChrisFar 28 днів тому

    I think a poi free selection system where each team selects their chosen poi in game with Two drop ships north and south would be a better change. That's ensures nobody is landing 30s after someone else based on rng drop ship path and preserves the right to contest which is exciting to watch as a viewer.

  • @h3lixbloom
    @h3lixbloom 28 днів тому

    if they don’t rebalance the POI’s, they should play a normal 6 round set and get their draft order off placement.

  • @FergieTheTaurus
    @FergieTheTaurus 28 днів тому +1

    This could either be really good or really bad. We'll see.

  • @powertrip6426
    @powertrip6426 28 днів тому +1

    A lot of y'all are weird for thinking Wattson can no longer have an opinion. Jmeyls was the one who highlighted his tweet. Y'all expect him to keep his mouth shut and not have an opinion just because he hopped in and out of pro league? No offense, but his opinion will outweigh all the commenters, who never stepped into pro league once.

  • @ray3290
    @ray3290 28 днів тому

    It means more time for the viewers to get a bathroom break or some snacks🤣! seriously though, without contest there is absolutely no need to watch the first 10 minutes of the match as it is gonna be boring...

  • @Welshy0207
    @Welshy0207 28 днів тому

    theyre a super team in agame based on rng, them being a super team just increases their chances bc all 3 are amazing, but they could still get bad luck its that simple

  • @h8ydencha0tic52
    @h8ydencha0tic52 28 днів тому +1

    Seasons late very late for them to add this

  • @foree20
    @foree20 28 днів тому

    I feel they should limit the access to the legends instead each team gets to us a legend 2 times per series or something along those lines instead of the drop spot selection

  • @IRaoulDuke
    @IRaoulDuke 28 днів тому

    How about respawn actually randomize zones based of total number of games played.

  • @estfatul744
    @estfatul744 28 днів тому +2

    what is gnaske on about lol there already was plenty of luck factor in the game inherently and any team could've gone for lava siphon, but they never were going to get it. At least they'll get to taste a piece of it once or twice lmao

    • @Anarcaeful
      @Anarcaeful 28 днів тому

      if youre not good enough to win it. You don't deserve it. sftu with this baby boy, equal share shit.

  • @crodagr
    @crodagr 28 днів тому

    Get Ready for 10teams in Finalcircle

  • @undecidxd9075
    @undecidxd9075 28 днів тому

    All the opinions aside , this is exciting for the future ALGs 🙌🏼

  • @soldiers360
    @soldiers360 28 днів тому

    They might as well let everyone select a load out, the good teams fight for the best POI's, if you can't win a contest then get better. It's a BR, you should be able to land wherever you want. They want to make it "Fair". This is just going to be a large scale Valorant. Not good for the game or the viewers.

  • @strokes3345
    @strokes3345 28 днів тому

    I dislike the snake draft. If you want to try to balance, do the nfl draft where the worst team gets first pick. All together they should just leave it be and let the pros land wherever they want. If they want to contest, let them. Yes it screwed up lan for a couple of teams but that's life. Not everything goes according to plan. If the pros want to counter this, they can just come to a gentleman's agreement and just pick pois prior. Only teams that contest would have an issue with their poi. But I don't like how this will mess with teams that take a poi plus a smaller area that isn't on the poi list. I'm not for the draft. I think it's fine the old way.

  • @Will-qk8ig
    @Will-qk8ig 28 днів тому

    Wheres your video to Thordan Smash...? Waiting to see your apology video...

  • @maxpower789z
    @maxpower789z 28 днів тому

    meh, we'll see how it goes but the contests were hype IMO, sad to see them go

  • @jakethornton4856
    @jakethornton4856 28 днів тому +1

    I personally have always disliked how they did the POIs in algs. I thought the agreement to pre chose drop spots was chalk and no one should know where anyone was dropping from the ship before the game like it is for everyone that normally plays apex. I thought that the pre agreement screwed some teams that were forced to play crappy POIs and let teams choose legends that were more useful in the end circle than ones useful for the whole game and thats why teams wud be forced to change characters if they were contested and I wud rather them have to choose legends not knowing if they are going to be contested like it is for any normal person thats ever jumped from the drop ship and pros just want to not play that part of the game. Also this allowed them to constantly use the same stupid meta characters. Pros never want to play games the way they were meant to be played and want things changed to make the game better for them or do things like claim POIs or the even worse thing in COD where they ban half the guns and perks in the game. Tbh I dont like this new system where teams pick in a draft b4 hand but pros forced this themselves by doing it the way they have been since this game became an esport

    • @Aziel258
      @Aziel258 28 днів тому

      I get where your coming from but you have to understand that algs isn’t normal pubs or ranked and teams are playing to win with money on the line. Which means if there is something in the game that is luck based or is fun for the casual player but isn’t good for the competitive integrity they won’t like it, for example if it was like how you said and 2 teams landed conned and one team had conduit and the other was running meta and the conduit team wins bc of the advantage they had then they play the rest of the game off meta or you could land a good poi thinking you’ll get conned and don’t then your stuck on that comp. Plus it’s kind of hard to not know where most teams will land if you play against or watch any teams also teams aren’t forced to play bad poi’s that’s their choice they could get better at team fighting and con a good poi

  • @NobleViking4
    @NobleViking4 28 днів тому

    I don't think Dezingful goes to TSM and I think DZ will be a mid team the first year they play together.

  • @drbinglederry9785
    @drbinglederry9785 28 днів тому

    HisWattson has a lot of opinions.

  • @xgenkyokai
    @xgenkyokai 28 днів тому +2

    Fuck no

  • @onesteffen
    @onesteffen 28 днів тому

    Before there wasn't luck to get a good poi teams just always had better/worse pois

  • @rym7174
    @rym7174 28 днів тому

    About fucking time !

  • @unscarred444
    @unscarred444 27 днів тому

    this is not a BR anymore

  • @bagmanjones8772
    @bagmanjones8772 28 днів тому +1

    I like the idea

  • @Daivd1111
    @Daivd1111 28 днів тому

    DZ probably worse in 3v3 with Hal

  • @GumboFawt
    @GumboFawt 28 днів тому

    Yall calling dz a super team is weird bro just let them play 😂

  • @romansandbrink5173
    @romansandbrink5173 28 днів тому +1

    GUYS ITS NOT RANDOM, YOU GET TO CHOOSE WHAT POINT YOU LAND AT

    • @itzvalkyt5937
      @itzvalkyt5937 28 днів тому

      For one pro league day at a time, and then it changes. And getting a goated POI that you don't earn is just silly.

    • @tphil5901
      @tphil5901 28 днів тому +1

      ​@@itzvalkyt5937 why is that silly, but the old "honor system" of selecting a poi isn't?
      And if you don't land where you say you're going to land, you're called cringe?

    • @freshboiii3r
      @freshboiii3r 28 днів тому

      @@tphil5901 noob team

    • @tphil5901
      @tphil5901 28 днів тому

      ​@@freshboiii3r alright fuck it then. Balance loot spawns on all POIs. Makes that easy.
      Now the skill test is who's actually better at the game.
      "Goated POIs" don't exist... What do you do

  • @ross6663
    @ross6663 28 днів тому

    I donno, watched last night and the games seemed better....oddly more balanced.

  • @anthonywoo5614
    @anthonywoo5614 28 днів тому

    Personally, I like the idea since the idea of POI politics and contesting seems so brain dead to me. It really didn’t make much sense that any team has to waste their pro league time and mental battling out for drop locations because of essentially an ego based DIBS.
    Obviously tier1 teams have dibs on the best spots, and obviously new teams w nothing to lose will contest them. The system was already a ton of RNG based on human ego, and teams can still MAZER it by refusing to leave even if they lose the contest over and over. And teams that contest have to play around it w Conduit and can’t even play the comp they actually wanna 🤷‍♂️

  • @ggcrunchyz
    @ggcrunchyz 27 днів тому

    Panderz needs to stop teaming with Xera.

  • @Hopoy1
    @Hopoy1 28 днів тому

    Average bikini stream camera pov

  • @evastif_ytapex8948
    @evastif_ytapex8948 28 днів тому +1

    I cried seeing hal with that TSM jersey : )

  • @illCMAC
    @illCMAC 28 днів тому

    Just might be a doomer perspective here, but if they dont announce the selection positions for every match before the season starts then you're looking at an easy way to inject corruption into comp.

    • @TACT1LE
      @TACT1LE 28 днів тому

      Doomer take and mildly smoothbrained as well

    • @illCMAC
      @illCMAC 28 днів тому

      @mattwakeman6167 I guess you need everything explained to you explicitly? Okay I'll spoonfeed you. Say a partnered org like FaZe or LG reach the end of the split and need a top-3 day to qual for regionals, what's to stop the admins from giving them higher selections in the draft then other qualified or statistically eliminated teams? Their integrity? Is that it?

    • @TACT1LE
      @TACT1LE 28 днів тому

      @@illCMAC Oh, I'm sorry! I don't remember asking for a full breakdown, you absolute simpleton. I'm sure Reject Winnity winning LAN was all just a part of "the admins" plan. Script writers must have been working overtime on that one.

    • @illCMAC
      @illCMAC 28 днів тому

      @@TACT1LE It's weird you're calling me dumb right before saying something completely asinine. Previous LANs didn't have this POI draft system, so previous LANs can't be used as an example, right? And the fact you're talking about "script writers" is hilarious and embarrassing. That's a meme, you get that right? It's just a joke, no one seriously thinks that.

  • @ruweee4443
    @ruweee4443 28 днів тому

    Wattson is being such a contrarian lately. He basically tries to reason out the opposite of what everyone is saying. All the pros hate it and this guy that retired multiple times is saying it's so good.

    • @TACT1LE
      @TACT1LE 28 днів тому

      Wattson is the ultimate autistic redditor

  • @Caboos55
    @Caboos55 28 днів тому

    I don't like the drop system. I do think wattson has some points along with Gnaske as to why its bad. As a viewer I don't like it because claiming your POI is good content from the Twitter threads to the scrims. Viewership makes the esport keep going and cutting out contests kind of ruin the hype and build up scrims offer up until finals or lan.

  • @LucnotLuck
    @LucnotLuck 28 днів тому +1

    HisWattson has the best take on this

    • @charldb972
      @charldb972 28 днів тому +2

      His opinion means Jack he bailed twice on his team. He should have absolutely no opinion on anything competitive. He should stick to apex getting better tips.

    • @LucnotLuck
      @LucnotLuck 28 днів тому +1

      @@charldb972 personal attacks on him don’t make his opinions any less correct.

    • @charldb972
      @charldb972 28 днів тому +1

      @@LucnotLuck facts aren’t personal attacks it’s facts. Stop living in delusional and denying reality.

    • @justincha4973
      @justincha4973 27 днів тому

      Wrong

  • @badassmexican9479
    @badassmexican9479 28 днів тому

    This just making teams that are bad stay bad

  • @Moonman10TTV
    @Moonman10TTV 28 днів тому

    Terrible idea

  • @drewbert2765
    @drewbert2765 28 днів тому

    I actually entirely disagree with their opinion on this for the viewers. I strongly look forward to the contests. Tbh it is the thing I look forward to watching most. L Fucking take from Respawn no shock there.

    • @tphil5901
      @tphil5901 28 днів тому +1

      Yeah but the contests are the worst part for the players. As a viewer it might be fun to watch to some people, but it's so dumb from a players perspective

  • @estfatul744
    @estfatul744 28 днів тому +5

    Leave it to hiswattson to be based

  • @Mazon24
    @Mazon24 28 днів тому +1

    The thing with Hal is, he was his best as an IGL. Yes he's very versatile but his strength is in leading and holding his team down.

    • @IRaoulDuke
      @IRaoulDuke 28 днів тому +1

      You could be correct

    • @CharizardLv95
      @CharizardLv95 28 днів тому

      Tbh with you, ever since he went to controller, he's been pretty mid. I understand he's won lan on roller but imo he's not at his best. He looks like every other console sweat. Nothing special.

    • @elijahperry3454
      @elijahperry3454 28 днів тому +1

      @@CharizardLv95that’s a little much, he’s still leading his team in damage and the only reason he goes down is bc he’s both igl and entry frag

    • @1234epps
      @1234epps 28 днів тому +2

      @@CharizardLv95are you legally blind ? Being serious

    • @CharizardLv95
      @CharizardLv95 28 днів тому

      @@elijahperry3454 he's still insane because of his positioning but he doesn't look like the old hal on MnK especially now that he can't crutch horizon.

  • @miguelcabalceta8765
    @miguelcabalceta8765 28 днів тому +1

    No lie I love this change very good and Fresh for the scene

  • @charldb972
    @charldb972 28 днів тому

    Braindead game !!!

  • @1234epps
    @1234epps 28 днів тому

    The new coach’s voice is so much easier on the 👂 then Raven

  • @Jdrunnin
    @Jdrunnin 27 днів тому

    Hal shouldn't even care, he isn't IGL anymore, bro just has to shoot

  • @CharizardLv95
    @CharizardLv95 28 днів тому +1

    Tbh this is a horrible idea. Contesting was part of the game, anyone complaining was probably just trash at contesting.

  • @Anarcaeful
    @Anarcaeful 28 днів тому

    Poi draft is the dumbest thing they could ever do to comp

  • @s0meX0therXguy
    @s0meX0therXguy 28 днів тому

    Draft poi is the worst move they could make algs dead

  • @darththesungod3578
    @darththesungod3578 28 днів тому

    Hiswattson needs to just stfu. His opinion on competitive isn't needed anymore. If I need help being a quitter I'll ask him

  • @kaee9561
    @kaee9561 28 днів тому +2

    pathetic idea

  • @romansandbrink5173
    @romansandbrink5173 28 днів тому

    People who don’t like this change are either afraid they’ll do bad bc they’re only good/confident landing at one poi, or they’re ignorant to the benefits of the competitiveness this brings to the esport

  • @DOC6752
    @DOC6752 28 днів тому

    This is Trash man.... they have now made the first 10 minutes of each game just plain and no excitement..... as a viewer this is not good for apex & Wattson is lost in the sauce

  • @blo0dyc0rpse
    @blo0dyc0rpse 28 днів тому

    So bad

  • @PetsUnited0
    @PetsUnited0 28 днів тому

    I can only say one thing about you... and thats the hate on Hal is too obvious. Even the smirk when you mention DarkZero's one bad performanmce. You are truly sad

  • @Anarcaeful
    @Anarcaeful 28 днів тому

    It is fundamentally not competitive to draft pick pois. GET RID.

  • @1234epps
    @1234epps 28 днів тому

    No offense but wattson your opinion is irrelevant you e quit 80 times and retired 50 keep to content

  • @TegFark
    @TegFark 28 днів тому

    Remember when LAN had repetitive end zones? The draft helps make sure not 1 team benefits from repetitive zones.