Dragon Age: The Veilguard Director Quit Just 3 Months After Release...
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- I wouldn't read too much into it...
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Leaving a studio after creating a critically acclaimed, multi award winning game to found your own studio is not even in the same realm as announcing your leaving "for an opportunity I couldn't pass up" (without elaborating further) after creating an at best, average, game in a beloved franchise...
Average..?
@@GoldenBoy.17 "at best"
Bro was just being generous for those very special people who actually found enjoyment in the game
@@Granhier thank you, you understood it!
For this, we get a "don't read into it" but then later Luke will talk about Sony and how that CEO will be "encouraged to leave on their own terms." My dude, that is literally what's going on here.
Dude ruined a beloved franchise then blamed the fans and bounced when everything failed and he’s talking like he won an award or something
Game flopped, director was told to leave gracefully or be fired lol no further reading into it required
Also, EA according to Mark Darrah who was a producer for Dragon Age since the start said that EA made BioWare into a studio that only focuses on one game at a time. No longer doing multiple games at once.
Or given that she claims to have left for an "opportunity she couldn't turn down", she saw the writing on the wall, figured that Bioware is a sinking ship, looked for better prospects elsewhere and then found them.
Maybe you SHOULD read into it.
We allowed Day 1 DLC on Disks during the 7th Gen - We allowed Online Passes during the 7th & 8th Gen - We allowed lootboxes in our games, and gambling to persist - We allowed the cost of games to increase when quality has significantly dropped - We allowed half-assed games be published in broken states, and expected to pay for fixes - We allowed studios to become lazy, relying on "AI" to optimize - We allowed studios to preach gender politics, target children, destroy intellectual IPs and gaslight fans - Your stance is bullshit, and we should read into it, and when the studio shutdowns? We know the reason why, they developed a garbage game nobody wanted.
Another blatantly fumbled game situation that Luke wants to downplay to avoid getting caught up in the “haters” conversations and maintain his develop friendly brand
This was an obvious flop 10 years rebooted multiple times, unless BioWare has figured out someway that other studios have not on how to keep costs down cause the math is not mathing
Exactly!
Is this JorRaptor?
Who would hire this person after their massive failure and horrible treatment to their community? Hopefully they aren't in the front line with their next project.
Dont read into it
I love that you said “this person”. Because yeah, how do you refer to this kind of person anyway?
You understand you can not read into it and not play their games, right?
I mean if the resume really says "previous project met expectations", anyone could hire her.
Such a stupid mentality, "don't research the game just spend 70$ on it and if you don't like it oh well". This is just corporate shill mentality
"don't read into it" is exactly how we got where we are now.
Christ Luke, if you sat on the fence any further you could take a fence post straight up your hoop
Bro is shooting for Boogie2988's old crown
Mark Darrah who was involved with Dragon Age since the beginning (not with Veilguard but with the previous iteration of Dreadwolf) did make a video saying EA made BioWare basically a studio that is now focusing on only one game at a time. So maybe that also played a part of it since more Game Directors won’t be needed.
Luke you are being way to favorable towards Veilguard. The sales figure were a fraction of what they need to be. The target sales were 10 million and current projections put LIFETIME sales at only 3 mill. They were expecting for it to sell well.
Rough budget estimates based on time and dev team size puts budget at 150-200 million easily. They needed over 4 million in sales to BREAK EVEN based on platform cuts at 70$ and that doesn't even cover marketing.
Quality wise the game is a terrible dragon age game, as a generic fantasy game it is mid at best. Which makes director departure a completely different scenario from Witcher 3.
This is almost X the justice league levels of terrible ideas. You shouldn't softball these people destroying the industry. Even fair criticism of Veilguard paints it at a complete train wreak.
The target sales were 3 million and DAV only hit 1.5 million.
@@lisdraconis2212 The 3 million was projected to be the lifetime sales of the game over 5-10 years. 1.5 is current sales. This means the game will NEVER make its money back.
If it was anything less controversial you'd look into it
BioWare once was like CDPR. Back in 00s and 2010s, Dragon Age and Mass Effect were like The Witcher and Cyberpunk 2077 now.
Wasnt this projected to sell 10 million copies?
Yep, everyone seems to be having a normal one in the comments.
Don't read too much into it? My guy, this was the SINGLE most high profile DEI-ridden game to flop horrendously onto its face. It is so much of a failure that it is very likely that Bioware is not long for this world.
Before anyone raises their pitchforks Corinne is probably the one person who actually sorted out Bioware.
Dragon Age was was a complete mess before her arrival in 2022, under her they atleast released a competent product.
John Epler is the guy we should be looking at.
The person who fucked over the Sims and was in charge of Veilguard disaster. Interesting
Left bioware to destroy another studio😂
Seriously i don’t think it’s possible for you to downplay it more then you are doing right now, The Failguard flopped big time and it flopped because of forced DEI and that guy who left was the directed and he did not leave he got canned by EA and that is 100% and next month you will see EA close BioWare Edmonton down and that is also 100%
It’s really not possible for you to downplay what is happening more then you are doing, it’s kind of pathetic.
It's actually refreshing to see Luke offer an actual realistic and level head take on it. Clearly some folks in the comments could learn a thing or two.
Much like how one of Bioware's Writers left after Veilguard was released, and you had so many folk pointing and cheering like this was some sign that Veilguard was awful afterall, and the people who made it were trying to run away from the company as fast as they could. Then after it was pointed out that the exact same thing happened with BG3, with the writer for one of the biggest characters in the game, Astarian, also leaving after BG3 launched, and suddenly all those people making fun of Veilguard went awful quiet right after.
It's almost like the hate group of modern gaming is only interested in building their own narrative since before the game even released, as opposed to just looking at actual reality.
@@skycloud5695 Steven Roony, Astarion's writer, left because of the fans being nasty sending him death threats.
@@lisdraconis2212 I can't find any direct confirmation that he left for that reason specifically, though he does mention wanting a break from social media when announcing his departure which could be refering to such things.
If that is the reason he left however, it really would highlight just how toxic the gaming culture is getting at this point. If it's not just Dragon Age and the Witcher 4 being attacked, but also the folks developing one of the best games released, then it would just prove how far gone some of these hateful types are.
@@skycloud5695 Yeah it is of course not in any way comfirmed, but the context is telling. Many fans attacked him for hus stance on the evil path you can take with Astarion.
Arrive. Destroy a beloved franchise. Leave.
That takes balls
lol no, this was a you can leave and we pretend it was amicable or you can be fired situation.
I really would like to know if this game was a flop or not.
It was. They had projected the game would move 10M units and it only sold 1.5M. And assuming a budget of $250M, the game would need to sell at least 6M units to break even(and would need to beat Dragon Age Inquisition's record of 12M units if they wanted to turn a tidy profit). By all accounts, the game is a massive flop.
@TheFuriousMulatto i don't believe you. It looks not great to be honest but I don't think we actually have the numbers right? I just need an unbiased soruce with confirmation.
@@davidtreece3922 This game we can very likey assume its PC has the biggest player base, just as the previous games. And Steam will have the biggest group of players, and this base didnt break 90k current players(sunday at launch weekend). And dropped each weekend(about 10k players), after release, no late surge happened. And only stayed #1 on Top Steam sellers, for barely a week. And this is without taking into acount who ask for refund.
If we look at the game In game achievement, 10% didnt progress further than chapter 1, 30% didnt go beyond chapter 4, 50% barely passed chapter 7, and only 30% achieved chapter 12. And when only 6% finished the game, even now. As we can certainly can say that most players should have been able to finish the game. They have not. FYI, remember this is of all players that bought the game, and it %.
So all of this are strong indications that firstly players didnt finish the game. So likely no hype, word of mouth, and people asking for refund And this game is reported to be easy, compared to previous DA games. Technically a solid game experience, a solid combat system, thou shallow compared to previous titles. All in all, its far from Elder Ring, where many players will just not have the skill to progress, or peristence.
And if you listened on the leaks, from within the company, their last report was about 1.5M sold on all platforms, 2w after launch. And this makes sense, with Steam providing the biggest player base, then Console and lastly EA launcher.
If this was a success like Inquisition, that sold 1.1M within the first week, a very achievable number considering, todays bigger market, on more Systems and platforms. BioWare or EA didnt report any numbers this time, if it achieved such milestones within the same timeframe.
I guess we find out, if someone care to look more into this, when EA release its shareholder update, or annualy. Anyway, EA will never disclose the exact numbers, as this will affect its stock value, and later titles.
Wait for the next EA financial report and read the transcript of the call with investors. Companies usually hide this things but you should be able to tell.
@@TheFuriousMulatto Got those numbers from a video citing "anonymous sources"?
I am afraid so many of the big name companies are like the ship of theseus, so many people left and new people hired they are not the same developers and just name only
The rats are jumping ship
Doesn't help game studios are pretty terrible for employees. They tend to burn through devs, confident they can always get naive, enthusiastic replacements.
I think a lot of people forgot that Veilguard had to reconstructed from a hero based live service into a single player game. Her directing that transition to a relatively functional game is pretty impressive game but you can still see the consequences of its earlier development.
She directed that transition about as well as her own transition lmao
@@TheFuriousMulatto There is this tasty drink called Bleach. It’s really healthy for you, especially if you drink the whole bottle.
@@TheFuriousMulatto Corinne Bushe ain't trans (edit: obviously wrong, brainfart). AND she delivered a completed product out of an absolute mess.
If you think that ain't impressive you never worked in software development.
@@TheStephaneAdamdefinitely trans
@@David72899 Yeah you're right. Sorry, crossed a few wires there and was thinking of someone else at the same time.
that director was much more into sexuality because of what he is, than abuot the game...thats why DA sucks on a narrative level...
Oh, Luke, do the optics of this one not match what gets you those paid-for reviews? probably shouldn’t read too much into it…
Do you ever stop shilling? Ffs! LOL
Wow. Spineless
Lol thete is a difference leaving on s high note and on a disaster..seriously your take is weird
Yeah gamers online are gonna take out the tinfoil hats and cackle about her being fired but really, did Corinne release the game on time and on budget? Then she did her job better than 80% of people managing projects in this industry. Leaving after completing a project for another job offer more to her tastes would be perfectly normal.
Dragon Age sold better than Metaphor, a game that's pretty much in the same niche. Not great at all for an AAA game, but that's probably realistic numbers considering Bioware's current branding and the really messy development.
Comment section once again full of casuals who know nothing about video game development. Yup checks out.
Do you? Enlighten us. Please.
So you know better?
He, not she, come on stop playing along with the stupidity.
The only stupidity I’m seeing is yours.
@@simonealcazar816 Explain
@@OfficiallyFerret You know damn well, just as you said, I’m not playing along with your stupidity.
Eh. She. Corinne has made enough effort for me to use the 'she' pronoun.
It's like plastic surgery. Someone could get enough for me to call them good-looking, even if genetically, they've got goblin-face. Even if I saw an old photo of their original face, I wouldn't insist on calling them ugly.
Genetically, Corinne is a male. But in terms of how Corinne looks and presents themself -- 'she' is the first word that comes to mind.
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Corinne did a helluva job of getting this title up-righted and tightened. The problem is, once again, the mouthbreating incel mutant fanboys and their perception of an industry they don't or won't understand. Game directors leave all the time in the business for other projects/new studios, ect. I'm lucky to know a few whom have made their careers moving between companies and even starting their own studios to boot. Trust me, Corinne is moving to greener pastures and doing something she wants to do..
Cope.
Touch some grass my dude.
@@vincenzobulla113You should take your own advice buddy.
this is the last time you're hearing about him in the industry
@@SBradison I’m sure SHE will be fine.
Luke you're so fake stop pretending