SpaceX VS NASA: Is that even a fair question?!?!
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2024
- Part II here (SpaceX Rockets VS NASA Rockets) - • SpaceX rockets vs NASA...
One of the questions I get asked most often is “who do you like better NASA or SpaceX”
Who do I like BETTER?!?! WHAT?! Is that even a fair question! It’s almost like saying, who do you like better, the Chicago Bulls or the NBA or perhaps Manchester United or FIFA?
Well, it’s not QUITE that simple… but hold on...
In this day and age of extreme SpaceX fandom, of which I’m 100% not guilty of, it’s important we reflect on the relationship SpaceX has with NASA, how they collaborate, how they differ and why NASA’s future role in space exploration is as important now as ever.
And although I don’t think it’s fair to compare a government agency to a private company in general, there is one thing we’ll be comparing in my next video… and that’s their rockets…
So, NASA vs SpaceX. FIGHT! Or, hug... I don’t know which yet so let’s get started!
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“Space is not an I’M thing, it’s an OUR thing”
*SOVIET UNION ANTHEM IN THE BACKGROUND*
Jack Li LEGO studio and then national anthem for America plays
whats the timestamp for that
*_o U r L i K e S_*
"Space is the one border us humans share. As soon as we get off this planet it's no longer this neighborhood versus that neighborhood, this city versus that city, this state versus that state or this country versus that country. No. It's humans versus the Universe."
I really like that. I will definitely use this quote.
No, it'll be Mars vs Earth etc...
Earth vs Q'onos, Earth vs Andoria, Earth vs Romulus, etc
There wil be rivalry eventually after space colonies get established a bit like how things turned out in the SyFy seires the Expanse. Humans are stubborn that way.
Spore hard mode
We humans share
SpaceX innovates like they’re playing KSP. Also, this video was amazing, and I LOVED your conclusion!!
Same! That conclusion was a great summary! PLUS those rotating orbs are incredible! PLUS PLUS "Space is an 'Us' thing" is a beautiful line!
*REVERT FLIGHT*
And watching tutorials by NASA
Nasa-we do it for science B**** SpaceX- We do it cuz it’s cool
*_Summon the Kracken..._*
So glad you took this topic on Tim, I've been giving an ad hoc answer in my Q&A shows, but I think you really put the comprehensive case here. Humans VS the Universe. I don't like the Universe's odds. :-)
Basically, NASA should be less concerned with how to get somewhere and more about what to do when they get there. Focus budget on exploration rather than launch and propulsion, leave that to private sector.
SLS vs. BFR is the only argument in NASA vs. SpaceX that makes any sense.
That's more Boeing/Congress vs. SpaceX
Still a travesty either way
@@Sin526 i knkow what your talking about but after starship launches NASA will be one of its first investors if not already.
Daniel Jensen nah. IT really doesn't.
SLS: 2 billion per launch, nothing reused, 1 launch per year at max capacity.
BFR:
@@EntropyConcept That's not my point. I'm saying that's the only area where the two are competing at all, otherwise they either work together or have nothing to do with eachother.
@@danieljensen2626 o
You should do SpaceX VS ULA or other launch providers
SpaceX- lowest costs, biggest rockets, we land our rockets
Others- our rockets become coral reefs at the bottom of the ocean
That would be more appropriate than SpaceX vs NASA. Comparing NASA to SpaceX is a bit like comparing the FAA to Boeing.
That would be cool
spacex vs blue origin
spacex vs blue origin would be a good video
I just wanted to make a comment about your NASA mission statement. I think most people forget NASA is also a leader in the development of flight. They have had a part in the development of planes such as the F 22 and F/A 18. We need to realize NASA advances flight and space and the research done their affects everything from the memery foam in your bed to the cameras in your smartphone. SpaceX is not at all like NASA, and we should treat it that way. SpaceX is cool and I realize that but NASA does the research that enables SpaceX to do what they do. But anyway Great Video!
Good point.
Would be nice if Congress let NASA stick with the research instead of forcing them to get back into the launching business.
With an $18 billion budget per year you could too my friend.
Lately they are spending billions to advertise for the superbowl from the ISS. NASA has lost site of its mission. Give their money to someone who deserves it
NASA is a civilian agency. It can't participate in military projects.
Yes! Finally! Real information, not just internet fan dom! Thanks Tim !
This video is great! A lot of people innocently ask us the same question - and we always have to say they're both great and their relationship is a great thing moving forward! Thanks for elucidating it with your growing (Congrats!) following!
0:38 The cat thinks you're crazy.
smart cat
All cats do.
He's not wrong
we are the Cat Overlord's useful idiots...
@@davidcadman4468 Dumb bipedal food dispenser.
Love your videos, keep em coming! You are such a great presenter!
I love your videos so much! My parents never got why I was so interested in everything space but you're making space so much more accessible to everyone! It used to be hard to get such in-depth information but now it's easy and looks amazing. Keep up the good stuff
Will you still be putting your songs on spotify? I really want to be able to listen to them on the go, they are so good.
Hey man I just want to say I appreciate that you remain genuine even when it comes down to little details like the titles of your videos. I think a selfish, clickbaity youtuber who values views over being genuine wouldn't have included the second part of the title. There is a bunch of people who just put a title that will get clicks and then go on to unfold a video for which there is obviously a much more suitable title. As always, thanks for the fun and informative videos!
Stick to what you're best at. While NASA handles the science, Space-X can be taking care of the engineering & the appliance of the science. I'm not saying NASA are bad at engineering, they're not, but there's too much inertia & bureaucracy in the system for them to do it as effectively as Musk does.
Pass The Butter Robot the agency that brought us STS?
kyndal anne You mean Congress that forced them to?
Did you seriously come to the conclusion that the moral of the story was to harden your This Team vs. That Team attitude?
So why do we need an $18.4 billion per year middle man?
Pass The Butter Robot NASA is good at engineering in research and experimental designs and poor at producing and maintaining long-term infrastructure.
Such a great video (as always). Thanks for all you do!
Always love the videos and your enthusiasm for the future manned space flight programs. I remember vividly the day Challenger blew up, I was stationed aboard the USS Nevada SSBN 733 and we were tied to the pier for a missile load out, that day I was on watch below decks and we had both scopes up so that we could all have a look at the launch and believe me it was very clear and close looking through the scopes. Challenger had just lifted off, I stepped away from the con so the next man could take a look and then shortly after the announcement came over the Subs 1mc letting us all know Challenger had a catastrophic failure, I was 18 years old at the time and I remember it felt like I had the wind knocked out of me as was the expression i saw on everyone else's face around me. The Officer of the deck came across the Subs comms following the announcement and asked that the entire crew remove their covers, pause and reflect on the tragic loss we as a nation had just experienced, It was gut wrenching.
I remember watching the last moon landing and then the follow on NASA missions, Skylab which we almost lost due to damage on launch then one of the last Apollo Capsules docked with a Russian Soyuz Capsule and for a short time we had a sense of friendship, you see back then we still practiced duck and cover drills in school because the cold war was at it's peak it seemed and almost every public building in my small town in Ohio had a fallout shelter sign on it.
Now at age 51 I have a few things I want to say about "NASA". Many people do not realize NASA is not a public sector space program it at the end of the day belongs to the Department of Defense, civilian purposes come secondary. I often wondered if I would be alive for the Moon outposts NASA had promised us all as young kids or if I would ever see Werner Von Braun's Ring in the sky that I had read about in popular science magazines and then one day be able to go to Mars as a tourist as everyone was always talking about us colonizing Mars by the year 2000 with regular flights to and from, seems kind of silly now I guess.
True, NASA did accomplish many things and it is also true NASA inspired so many of us to dream and look to the stars but in the end NASA was (JMO) a waste of time. I still love space and SPACEX keeps me hooked as Elon Musk is not just a dreamer he follows through on what he sets out to do. I believe we would have accomplished many of the things I listed if we had just commercialized space in the 70's. NASA operating budget today is 50 million dollars a day, rounded up about 20 billion a year. The culture at NASA is much like the military in that you have allot of bureaucratic red tape and for many years innovation was stymied. Given the amount of money NASA has squandered and I say that because they really have not learned very much when you look at projects like ORION, SLS etc. ORION has much more technology and is almost twice the size of the Apollo Capsule but at the end of the day you still have a capsule and SLS is still a throw away package, not very impressive in my opinion when you consider how young SPACEX is and how very quickly they rose to the top because it was formed as a business and you do not start a business to loose money unlike the government which is in the business of spending and wasting money lolol.
I have followed the "MAR's" direct" folks and frankly think they more than most have the best, fastest and most economical approach with technology that has been built here and proven already, people keep saying how dangerous it would be and that the risks are too high and that may be so but there is no lack of courageous explorers highly trained knowing all the risks that are willing to go right now. In fact much of the technology needed we had already in place in 1973. To qualify on a Submarine you must know every system like the back of your hand, it is exhausting to get your dolphins or Submarine qualified, day and night you are studying, setting up interviews and physically touching every component on the Sub getting ready for your board interview, my board was 7hrs long and comprised of 5 crew members conducting the interview. What i do remember is a system we had on board the Sub called CAMS, it was the very same system used on the space shuttles, "CENTRAL AIR MONITORING SYSTEM" every compartment had a hockey puck sized disk that was constantly reporting the air quality in every space and where needed bringing scrubbers, filtration systems and oxygen bleeds online to keep the air perfect, it worked very well.
Have any of you ever heard of this project? I spoke with the gentleman heading this up and allot of their technology has been built some proven I have no idea where they are at today but check it out. gatewayspaceport.com/
I love your music! So many space themed soundtracks (especially in movies) are so intense, but that always ruins the mood for me. Personally, I imagine traveling through space to be as calm as calm gets (minus the initial launch). Just peaceful drifting through an ocean of silence as the lights the cosmos tell tales of ancient grandure. At least that's how I like to see it, and your music I feel hits the nail on the head.
Excellent breakdown. I have several hundred subscriptions yet I keep watching your old videos. You got the Right Stuff.
Great video. You covered many deep aspects in a short format.
I was concerned by the title, but good explanation and good job dismissing all the misconception :)
Could you do a spacex vs blue origin
Hi Tim can you tell me if a Falcon Heavy can launch the Orion spacecraft and if so to where , if not why? Great work on Everyday Astronaut.
17:22 Those models are so cool!
Awesome content Tim! Keep it up.
Great perspective on this Tim. I love you analogy of the team vs league mentality. What a great perspective shifter! Keep up the great work. - TJ
did you stop motion the earth moon and mars at 16:20 mins? nice work lol love how you put the cup down
Tim, you are fantastic. These two videos are great summaries of complex subjects explained succinctly with honesty and candor. Dont ever think otherwise, as if you ever would. Love it.
Thank you for making this video! It's important to understand the relationship.
such a nice and interesting start into the day! thank you!
This is a really great and informative video.
thx for releasing the video now already :)
That space shuttle design was cool. 12:36
I just wanna say thanks Tim, great vid and really cleared a lot of things up for me. I’ll be waiting on your next vid. Peace
1920:we will have fling skyscrapers in the future
1960:yay,we have fling skyscrapers!
did you always have two different coloured eyes? looks amazing!
Really dig this video! Well done Tim and research team. Thank you for the perspective calibration.
Hey Tim! Love your videos, I know more about space because of them. Where does ESA fit into all of this?
You forbid me from watching your other video until I watched this one first.
I think it's nice that between you, Curious Elephant and Fraser Cain I get the whole picture, not just from one perspective
I can recommend Curious Droid as well.
Mosern1977 yes, I recommend Curious Droid over Curious Elephant. Both are good but I prefer Droid's style (and his shirts lol)
I was going to mention CD but everyone beat me to it.
Also a small up and coming channel- Space is kinda cool.
Wow, I didn't expect you to upload right after the live cast.
Antonluisre he said he would after the livestream
Another great vid. Thanks for that, bro!
I believe that it is a valid statement to say that I like what SpaceX is doing, advancing reusability, lowering prices and mastering new technologies, along with how they handle construction and contracts, better than NASAs equivalence.
Everyday Astronaut, you're technically wrong with saying that NASA promised SpaceX 1.6b"before SpaceX had flown their falcon 9 once. They promised 1.6b for completion of milestones. If Spacex hadn't met those milestones, they would not have gotten the money. Similar to Rocketplane Kisler who failed to meet their milestonesr. This also introduces a new contract style. In addition to fixed contract and cost plus contracts, there is are milestone based contracts like COTS and Commercial Crew.
Joe Mckirdy true
Dear Joe: thank you for clarifying that, I was really confused about that because I don’t follow this stuff all that closely, but I was pretty sure that SpaceX did not get a dump of $1.6 billion for better or worse. Best wishes, Steve
Real love this show Tim. Great work.
Okay Tim, I'll give you this. Your executive decision to break up the video in two parts was really good. I voted for one video but I see now how this is better. Good job!
Thank you!!! I struggled with this decision a lot. It just really seemed too unreasonable to make it that long. This feels right to me, I’m really excited to get the second part edited. I shot them together so at least I’ll be able to get the second one out in a few days already!
Great video. Long time coming.
Where’d you get the scale-model SpaceX rockets in the background?
What is there not to like of this very well made video? Keep up with your excellent videos. :)
Which production software and tools do you use for your music? Asking for a friend. ;)
keep up the good work ! You earned a new subscriber from France :v
One thing I haven't seen mentioned with the cost comparisons. The insurance side of it. Which brings the costs much closer between space x, and ULA. It is way cheaper to insure satellites on ULA Atlas 5 rocket compared to insuring a satellite on a Falcon 9. The atlas has a perfect track record vs the falcon 9's not so perfect track record(downside to constant changes to design). To be clear not picking a side. I love all the activity and competition going on. Just adding that to the conversation. It will also be interesting to see how that changes when ULA switches to the Vulcan rocket with the new Blue Origin engines (BE4 I think).
Love the end point of your show.
Keeping your eye on the prize.
Love it Everyday Astronaut , very informative and agree with you about the versus battle. It is all for the benefit of future generations and I am excited to be a witness for the foundation of it all. Love your channel thanks.
I liked the video, and learned a few things/details. But I feel like the next part of this video is what it's really about while this one is for people that don't really know too much about the matter.
Does anyone have a link to the "yay SpaceX" video? I NEED IT
There isn't one. I shot that just for this ;)
I don't think it has been in any other video, unless it has been on social media.
Everyday Astronaut oh haha
loved the cutscenes in this video
Can anyone tell me what those spinning planet displays are near the end of the video? They look cool and I can not figure out how they're spinning.
Just FYI about the comment near the beginning. The Redstone missile that launched Freedom 7 (and Liberty Bell 7) was an IRBM, not an ICBM. That means "Intermediate Range." It couldn't reach the ~5,000 mile range to be called "Intercontinental." The Atlas, used with the rest of the Mercury flights, and the Titan II, used with the Gemini program, were ICBM's.
4:50 this Tesla truck is fire
Where do you get those f9 and fh models??
We misted you, your finally back!
Wow as an engineer for a company hired by ASML, this sounds all so familiar! Making changes fast (concurrent engineering) is a must in this day and time!
It’s really hard to find news about EM Drive. Is NASA studying any application utility ? For when is the Warp Drive ? Can you answer that ?
Talking of early NASA, we need a Crossover between Mark Felton and Tim talking about Wernher von Braun and the whole progress of rocketry from its very beginnings all the way to Apollo 11
Yes
I dont know if you would read this but could you do a deep explanation on Ion Engines on the satellites? Thanks.
I love your videos because I love space, too
I saw that Fender Amp sitting on your floor, What model is it ?
Super Sonic 👌 it’s been a long time favorite of mine!
Great video . You make this interesting and front street as it was when we were children thanks
Where did you get the spinning moon at the 16:05 mark?
What are those cool spinning planet things and where can I buy them?
Well done. Someone had to make that clear to everyone. Glad you did.
At 13:29, there is a young SpaceX employee, who has a Croatian flag in the background, right next to the New York Times article about the Falcon Heavy Launch. Is there any way on Earth to find out if this video really depicts a true SpaceX's employee or not, and, if the answer is positive, is there any way to find out the name of the respected individual?
Awesome vid, thank you !
Ive also got that LEGO Saturn V. Its such a giant.
Outschtanding!! SUBBED!
Can you make a video comparing ROSKOSMOS and NASA, or their rockets or SHUTTLE vs. BURAN?
Your videos are fantastic
How do the glass planets on the shelf beside you turn !?
Hey. Where did you get those rotating planets? @15:28?
I think this place..
www.movaglobestore.com/mova-revolving-planets-moon-globe.html
Anybody know how I can find something similar to those glass balls with rotating planets in them that he has in front of the model Saturn V?
The Shuttle version shown at 12:39 looks like something out of Warhammer 40K. :)
Hey Tim, I would love a video about the ESA! Would be pretty interesting, maybe you can also compare the ESA to the NASA. Have a good one and greetings from Berlin :)
Julius, sad to say, but anything from ESA would be but a cure for insomnia. They are almost irrelevant. I would almost put my money on Russia before the ESA. Is there anybody that loves bureaucracy more than ESA?
Excellent research and presentation on the topic. "GO" for more spacey goodness.
those planets at the end of the video are sick. where can i buy some.
I like the globes on your shelf
Excellent video! :)
Great perspective, T!M
we need to get this guy up to 1 million subs
how do i get your spacesuit
4:03 Iconic
It's already up!
Where can i buy one of those spinning planets? They Look so awsome
Why did you animate the planets on your shelf?
In the bottom left corner what font is Astronaut written in
I believe it's "NASALIZATION" otherwise known as the "worm font"
Well in Europe they also design and build in the same house since years.. not the hole rocket in one house but at the place where the engines are design they are also manufactured
I'm only watching this because you told me too 🙋🏻♂️
Hey Tim, is that a Fender Deluxe amp on the floor there by your feet? Very Cool. You play guitar?
OK, you just said you produce your on music. That is even cooler.