The problem with many UA-cam Watch channels and I am not including you, is virtually every watch review is a paid advertisement. Most people don’t notice the warning quickly given in the beginning of the video.
Very true! Also, if the presenters HATE Rolex so much, why the hell don't they treat them like Hublot. That's doing a TWICE yearly hate rant. They ALL want a Daytona deep down inside! The usual bloody 904L stainless "panda" model always too!
Is ten minutes a magic number for UA-cam videos? Because while I get including "Rolex" in the title in order to drive the algorithm, I have no good idea why you it took you eight-and-a-half minutes of rambling - including transitions - to make the point that you're annoyed at Rolex for continuing to have supply issues.
Random reasons, all related to your points: 1. Too expensive. 2. Making inconsequential or even detrimental changes to justify exorbitant prices. 3. Cheezy marketing collaborations. 4. Too much emphasis on “heritage.” 5. Not enough respect for heritage. 6. IG and Facebook.
How many iterations do we need of Rolex, Tudor, or Seiko watch designs? So many micro brands take elements from different, more expensive watches in an effort to create something new and “different”. Being a watch fan sometimes feels like the mechanical nature of “swiping” whatever direction on a dating app…
Buy a tritium dial Marathon GSAR: It has a NSN for military service, 300m water resistance, swiss workhorse movement which is easy to service and all the features that make dive watches great. There's something nice about looking at the dial at 3am and seeing it glow merrily away long after lume is dead.
I'd say they suck because a luxury watch is for the most part an automatic watch. I love the beauty/artistry/craftmanship of a luxury watch but now I'm at the point where in my life where I could afford one I know if I buy one it will just sit in the cupboard with the few automatics I've bought over the years in favor of an always ready Casio solar or Citizen ecodrive.
You covered a lot of ground there! I’ve found myself moaning about most of the same things myself over the past 6 months. Especially when things like Rolex’s Bucherer take over happen, I just don’t see that helping the issues of sameness and statistic chasing when it comes to design.. I’m just not feeling inspired by Rolex, Omega, Tudor etc.. 😬
I mostly buy vintage which is a whole other can of worms. The used market for modern watches still offers plenty of bargains. Especially stuff that was "hot" five years ago. Or even new watches on sale. E.g. my new Tissot PRX picked up last week for $191.
Many current watches are little-changed clones of past watches. And they sell. So not the fault of the manufacturer. Past watches typically have the original style expressiveness- sometimes flaws and all of the designer who first visualized it. It’s why an early 911 is much more appealing than a current one - at least visually. That noted, there are watchmakers today who either are bravely breaking with their past designs or are so new all of their watches are essentially clean-sheet creations (Bremont comes to mind). Most of those models are slow sellers - much as many of the old - now classic - designs were (tag Heuer Monaco for example) Ps- enjoy your videos - especially the commentary very much. Thx.
It is an embarrassment of riches. If you can’t afford a luxury watch, chances are, there is a micro brand, Seiko, or lower end Swiss watch that ticks all the same boxes you can afford. Many times over. And thanks to online shopping, instantly available. So no need to spend your days and nights going to swap meets, or looking for sales at ADs. A process that used to take months, even years to find a certain Watch. The paradox of modern watch collecting is, the more watches you get, the less time you have to make that watch a part of your story. Sometimes I feel like I should just stop buying for a few years and see how I feel about my watches then.
Availability is the biggest reason why modern Rolex fails. I agree with you, work hard and earn money only to have ADs tell you that you are not worthy to own a watch.
Tudor make the watches I want to buy. The best Rolex watch in the catalogue is the 36mm Explorer 124270. But the Tudor BB54 remains welded to my wrist, because it's quality, reasonably priced within it's class and has rugged charm that's wholly versatile.
IMO more brands going upmarket is a bigger issue than inflation. Inflation is not why Brands like Rolex are so expensive nowadays. Many succesful brands have deliberately pivoted towards higher echelons of the luxury market. So watches that were once attainable are now just status symbols.
@@melissasmess2773There are lots of people working their butts off that are struggling to make ends meet and some tosser like you thinks they know better. You really need to grow up.
That's our fault as the consumer buying into this BS. Companies charge what they think they can get away with, the price has nothing to do with the actual value of the watch
I find it funny since Rolex bought Bucherer, many gray market dealers are bashing Rolex. Where do you think the majority of money was made from the majority of gray market dealers? Rolex, obviously. You think they are making money selling boutique watch company watches that they are saying are better than Rolex? Nope. Rolex is going to continue to eat away the gray market dealer profits by selling their used watches through Bucherer. Gray market dealers are definitely not happy about this.
I’ve got a Seiko Bullhead Black Horse. It’s a 1976 and wears superbly heavy and purposeful. Competes with my Tudor FXD MN23. Winning 9 times out of 12 to be worn 24/7
Not all vintage watches are delicate. Vintage Omega manual wind watches from the 1950's and 60's for example are pretty robust. Of course you can't swim with them, but you can't with many modern watches either.
The half-link adjustment on the oyster bracelet is far less useful than the glidelock on the Sub. Why doesn’t Rolex offer it as an alternative bracelet on all their sports models?
If I had to pick one brand that is doing something different it would be Mr Jones Watches of London. Very affordable too. If I had to pick a brand that doesn't need to do anything different it would be Rolex. All the rest fall between.
I feels to me that every possible kind of watch has already been made and now everything is just an homage to something else. Every movie has now been filmed and every book written too. We as a species have reached Peak Saturation.
People buy Rolex (non collectors) because of the name. There are better time pieces out there and for far less money. It is nuts that Rolex dealers do not stock any watches. I have no time to waste on something as useless as a Rolex. My guess is most Rolex buyers know very little about watches past the name. Besides, these people care more about some name rather than the accuracy of the watch, and from watching UA-cam, there seems to be many fake watches. I am not knowledgeable enough to tell if the Rolex on some persons wrist is real or fake. At least I know my Westclox Scotty is authentic. 😊 Great video, sir.
I actually love modern watches. I like some vintage but they don’t look well put together and the design also seems like it’s off. For example, hands, they often are tiny and you have to take a second to understand the position. I really like modern watches, design/durability/cost.. now I know that prices are going up.. but that just means smaller brands are the ones backfilling. Many of those brands are putting out watches at a quality point we’ve never seen. And that’s pushing the larger brands to do better. Would LONGINES be making such great watches if Chris Ward/Monta/Nomos weren’t here making watching from 1k to 4K that are amazing? I’m not saying in all cases new is better, I’m just saying the overall quality has improved.
God it's not that hard. All I want is a Blackbay 58 with a better clasp, no snowflake hands or faux rivets, standard crown, better edge on the bezel... oh and Rolex printed on the dial instead of Tudor.
My next watch purchase won't be in the $1000's, Hell it won't even break $500! On top of that I won't even purchase if I don't sell one that I already own, lol! That's where my enthusiasm has been for many, many years!
We have innate respect and nostalgic feelings about the past, whether it be watches, cars, clothing, or films. I am chalking that up as one of the positive aspects of being human.
You'd think that by now that watch manufacturers would have worked out that there's two types of customers. Those that will buy a watch from a jeweller's shop because they like how it looks and people like us that will do hours of research and then go to an AD knowing exactly what we want. If the manufacturers were to offer us something like what you get when you order a brand new car we'd be happy and they'd not be making watches that don't sell. Make them in all sizes and colour options but with most only available at the ADs and even then not on the day. Order it, pay for it, wait a month then take delivery of the exact combination of parts you want.
Cost. It's about money. If you offer too many choices and a third of it sits unsold, that's not just money wasted it's money lost. An independent or micro brand definitely couldn't afford it.
@@SpaceG95 What I suggested is that watches of the least popular configuration are not manufactured until they're paid for in full. That's better than them not being available because a third sits unsold.
There is a disconnect between what folks want and the types of watches on offer. An example: lots of folks love military and field type watches. Perhaps the most iconic of these are the “dirty dozen” watches produced for the British near the end of WW2. Longines, JLC, IWC, and Omega, among others, produced these watches, yet none produce a similar watch now. Yet, Vertex, a start-up with a familial connection to the original company, has managed to exploit this market void and re-launch the brand. Why? Where are these famous Swiss brands? Wow. Every year NATO countries graduate NCO’s and officers, many of whom would love to have an iconic military watch rather than a G-Shock or something similar.
@@andysmith9836 this is Andrew's personal channel, but on @WatchFinder they are mostly limited to what they have for sale. I don't fault that. I , like you and many other people are bored to death of the "big" names. The watch industry is dying because young people assume they have to spend 10s of thousands for a "real" watch.
Are we talking about modern watches or modern Rolex? Because watches (Casio, Orient, Citizen, Seiko) are just fine. Swiss marketing gimmicks that look like watches, on the other hand, are another story that has been removed from reality and common sense long ago.
With the rise in enthusiasts and collectors, the market has exploded, and as a consequence - as well as your point about a lower barrier of access to creating a watch - the options and number of competition has also grown. This makes it harder for watch brands to stand out, so the only two options are to do something unusual and different and risky, or do something with mass appeal to tempt the greatest number of potential customers.... And so many brands are just playing it safe and not taking risks.
Andrew, it's like you say, unfortunately nowadays, creating a watch is easy, too easy, and that's why there are more and more watches and fewer "timepieces". The formula is simple, like you said: with a little money to start get a designer for the dial name and a logo, add a Seiko NH35 movement, and that's it, you have created a micro watch brand! The design, of course, doesn't need to be anything innovative, nor should it. Let's go with what we know it works. The inspiration will be somewhere between a Rolex, an Omega or a Seiko, add some colorful dials, and you're good to go. Then just pick a chinese factory to produce it. Take one of those modern watches, imagine it without the name or logo and try to guess the brand. I doubt you'll be able to do it. And that's why Modern Watches Suck. A watch was once a functional piece of art, with a master watchmaker behind it. There was no mass production and as such, there was room for creativity. Today it is still possible to find master watchmakers, who create true works of art, but unfortunately, their creations, in most cases, are not within the reach for the of most of us.
I don't have the funds to buy incredible watches as clumps of investment. What I can do though is buy components and let my imagination run wild with a little help from a watch maker that can assemble them for me. It's not a crime to get exactly what you want. Ask me Andrew, I'll send you one to review.
i think, modern watches sucks is: all are copies of copies of copies. take rolex for example.. there is just nothing exiting about this brand anymore.. oh, yeah, a new sub, look, its 0,00123 mm bigger.. or omega.. o great, the next seamaster whit a colour one shade darker then ever.. oh look, Tissot releases the next PRX (but, oh boy, do we go ragemode, if a chinesebrand makes an homage).
i get and agree with what you're saying brother! I really dislike looking at new releases anymore.However, that being said,,,I found a new brand that made me sit up and take notice and believe it or not, I have thought about making this brand my perfect 5 watch collection and selling my current collection. I just ordered one and if it meets or exceeds my expectations...well, I probably won't sell my current collection...but I will buy the other 4 styles they offer, First brand I've been excited about in awhile! But back to what your topic...I've found that I have to wade through all the mediocrity to find that hidden gem and it's easy to become disillusioned with all the choices and options. Hell, the same thing happens to me when I shop for food...500 kinds of cereal, 60 choices of peanut butter, the list goes on. Anyway, great video brother!
Greed..over weight, balding middle men (with the occasional boyish looking toothpick) who make a killing after every watch sale. Let’s not forget the bastards that buy up limited watches to resell the. at several times their worth.
Andrew's rant is basically about rite of passage. You kind of need to do the dumb things to arrive at the self realisation of what it is you actually want. Too much choice? Well, with a little maturity, you can actually choose to be discretionary.
Rolex: treat their customers with contempt. No I am not going to bend over backwards and have my bollox bashed by a bungee rope to buy your overblown, overpriced product. Simple. The reason that most modern watches suck is the reason that most marketing is rubbish too: risk. Most modern corporations just aren’t brave enough to actually properly innovate and do something they BELIEVE in. As a result everything looks like the output of a grey suit, because, well it is. And when someone comes along with something utterly original everyone says it’s bonkers and brilliant at the same time. Work that actually reflects the mind and not the data is infinitely more satisfying - even if you don’t like it you can appreciate it
Modern seiko sucks because the prospex and seiko 5 logo sucks. Modern rolex sucks because Im not sure they are made to last with movements that have more power reserve but feedbacks of performance issues.. modrn watches also sucks as they are made too unscratchable that they wont aged beautifully with me. There is no more real patina but only fauxtina which is lame
I couldn't disagree more. Watch some watch repair channels and you'll see them service watches over 50 years old and a lot need nothing more than a strip down and lubricating and they can easily be adjusted to run with a few seconds a day.
@@garyboyle695 it is true that the unnecessary use of high tech materials in movements make them overly complicated. That explains why most micro brands use simple Asian movements to avoid the BS
Good analogy, it's also true that they were both only cool in the '50s '60s and maybe '70s. They have a very different vibe now. Back in the early '70s my boss had a BMW 3200, that made him the coolest man in town in my eyes, by the '90s he wouldn't even look at one because he was still cool.
Rolex AD = Snobs. Rolex flippers = ripping off stupid people that will pay over MSRP for an already overpriced, overrated watch. I don’t want or need this company.
You are just upset that your Roly did not survive when you dropped it onto some rocks (because, after all, why sit down when fiddling with your watch strap when you can stand on some rocks?).🤣
It's a strange age for watches. The brand approval rating for Rolex is infinitely higher than for any other brand. There are much better watches than Rolex (Patek, Vacheron, Breguet, Lange, etc.) but even non-watch-enthusiasts who wouldn't know a Patek from a Seiko, recognise Rolex as a signature life prize. When worn without bluster or hubris, Rolex has that extraordinary perceived value. It is one of the few watches that make servicing costs tolerable. Cheaper mechanical watches still require servicing, but there comes a time when the servicing cost is greater than the value of the watch (e.g. 1970s Seiko Jumbo). My daily watch is a twenty-year-old Rolex which people occasionally notice: some comment, others notice but say nothing. My breathtakingly perfect/expensive watch from one of the high horology makers mentioned above, goes completely un-noticed and unremarked. Unless funds are unlimited I advise - buy subtle, buy tasteful, buy quality, buy once, buy Rolex. You'll have paid too much for what the watch really is, but the multiple attaching values are with you for a lifetime.
While I can’t speak to the marketing, I’ve had the extreme privilege of owning numerous Panerai, Lange, Omega, Tudor, Breitling… Rolex truly are something special. The reliability, robustness, aesthetics… incredible watches. It’s cliche but, that’s just my opinion. I love them, among other brands of course.
The problem with many UA-cam Watch channels and I am not including you, is virtually every watch review is a paid advertisement. Most people don’t notice the warning quickly given in the beginning of the video.
Very true! Also, if the presenters HATE Rolex so much, why the hell don't they treat them like Hublot. That's doing a TWICE yearly hate rant. They ALL want a Daytona deep down inside! The usual bloody 904L stainless "panda" model always too!
Title: Why Modern Rolex Sucks
Content: Why modern watches suck
Earns himself an unsub. I don’t support any I mean any youtuber who uses click bait. Reeks of dishonesty.
@@MugenTJ Not unsubbing yet..... but he's getting close. Def needs to rein it back in a bit (or a lot...)
"It just makes you feel like you're somehow not worth it, and if you were, they would find a way to get you one." This is true to be fair 😆
Is ten minutes a magic number for UA-cam videos? Because while I get including "Rolex" in the title in order to drive the algorithm, I have no good idea why you it took you eight-and-a-half minutes of rambling - including transitions - to make the point that you're annoyed at Rolex for continuing to have supply issues.
Late reply but I agree wth you. Andrew is a lot better than this.
Random reasons, all related to your points: 1. Too expensive. 2. Making inconsequential or even detrimental changes to justify exorbitant prices. 3. Cheezy marketing collaborations. 4. Too much emphasis on “heritage.” 5. Not enough respect for heritage. 6. IG and Facebook.
How many iterations do we need of Rolex, Tudor, or Seiko watch designs? So many micro brands take elements from different, more expensive watches in an effort to create something new and “different”. Being a watch fan sometimes feels like the mechanical nature of “swiping” whatever direction on a dating app…
Buy a tritium dial Marathon GSAR: It has a NSN for military service, 300m water resistance, swiss workhorse movement which is easy to service and all the features that make dive watches great.
There's something nice about looking at the dial at 3am and seeing it glow merrily away long after lume is dead.
I'd say they suck because a luxury watch is for the most part an automatic watch. I love the beauty/artistry/craftmanship of a luxury watch but now I'm at the point where in my life where I could afford one I know if I buy one it will just sit in the cupboard with the few automatics I've bought over the years in favor of an always ready Casio solar or Citizen ecodrive.
You covered a lot of ground there! I’ve found myself moaning about most of the same things myself over the past 6 months. Especially when things like Rolex’s Bucherer take over happen, I just don’t see that helping the issues of sameness and statistic chasing when it comes to design.. I’m just not feeling inspired by Rolex, Omega, Tudor etc.. 😬
I mostly buy vintage which is a whole other can of worms.
The used market for modern watches still offers plenty of bargains. Especially stuff that was "hot" five years ago.
Or even new watches on sale. E.g. my new Tissot PRX picked up last week for $191.
Many current watches are little-changed clones of past watches. And they sell.
So not the fault of the manufacturer.
Past watches typically have the original style expressiveness- sometimes flaws and all of the designer who first visualized it.
It’s why an early 911 is much more appealing than a current one - at least visually.
That noted, there are watchmakers today who either are bravely breaking with their past designs or are so new all of their watches are essentially clean-sheet creations (Bremont comes to mind). Most of those models are slow sellers - much as many of the old - now classic - designs were (tag Heuer Monaco for example)
Ps- enjoy your videos - especially the commentary very much. Thx.
It is an embarrassment of riches. If you can’t afford a luxury watch, chances are, there is a micro brand, Seiko, or lower end Swiss watch that ticks all the same boxes you can afford. Many times over. And thanks to online shopping, instantly available. So no need to spend your days and nights going to swap meets, or looking for sales at ADs. A process that used to take months, even years to find a certain Watch.
The paradox of modern watch collecting is, the more watches you get, the less time you have to make that watch a part of your story. Sometimes I feel like I should just stop buying for a few years and see how I feel about my watches then.
Availability is the biggest reason why modern Rolex fails. I agree with you, work hard and earn money only to have ADs tell you that you are not worthy to own a watch.
Lol what was up with the quick shot of the Sega Dreamcast?? I don't get it 😅
Tudor make the watches I want to buy. The best Rolex watch in the catalogue is the 36mm Explorer 124270. But the Tudor BB54 remains welded to my wrist, because it's quality, reasonably priced within it's class and has rugged charm that's wholly versatile.
IMO more brands going upmarket is a bigger issue than inflation. Inflation is not why Brands like Rolex are so expensive nowadays. Many succesful brands have deliberately pivoted towards higher echelons of the luxury market. So watches that were once attainable are now just status symbols.
@@melissasmess2773There are lots of people working their butts off that are struggling to make ends meet and some tosser like you thinks they know better. You really need to grow up.
That's our fault as the consumer buying into this BS. Companies charge what they think they can get away with, the price has nothing to do with the actual value of the watch
I find it funny since Rolex bought Bucherer, many gray market dealers are bashing Rolex. Where do you think the majority of money was made from the majority of gray market dealers? Rolex, obviously. You think they are making money selling boutique watch company watches that they are saying are better than Rolex? Nope. Rolex is going to continue to eat away the gray market dealer profits by selling their used watches through Bucherer. Gray market dealers are definitely not happy about this.
That Tudor BB pro and Explorer II comparison meme is so brutal 😂
I’ve got a Seiko Bullhead Black Horse. It’s a 1976 and wears superbly heavy and purposeful. Competes with my Tudor FXD MN23.
Winning 9 times out of 12 to be worn 24/7
Really good, Andrew. Thanks for the great content!
Not all vintage watches are delicate. Vintage Omega manual wind watches from the 1950's and 60's for example are pretty robust. Of course you can't swim with them, but you can't with many modern watches either.
To me modern watch suck because they are too big/thick, mostly related to what you said about proportion as well
The half-link adjustment on the oyster bracelet is far less useful than the glidelock on the Sub. Why doesn’t Rolex offer it as an alternative bracelet on all their sports models?
If I had to pick one brand that is doing something different it would be Mr Jones Watches of London. Very affordable too. If I had to pick a brand that doesn't need to do anything different it would be Rolex. All the rest fall between.
I feels to me that every possible kind of watch has already been made and now everything is just an homage to something else. Every movie has now been filmed and every book written too. We as a species have reached Peak Saturation.
People buy Rolex (non collectors) because of the name. There are better time pieces out there and for far less money. It is nuts that Rolex dealers do not stock any watches.
I have no time to waste on something as useless as a Rolex.
My guess is most Rolex buyers know very little about watches past the name. Besides, these people care more about some name rather than the accuracy of the watch, and from watching UA-cam, there seems to be many fake watches. I am not knowledgeable enough to tell if the Rolex on some persons wrist is real or fake.
At least I know my Westclox Scotty is authentic. 😊
Great video, sir.
I actually love modern watches. I like some vintage but they don’t look well put together and the design also seems like it’s off. For example, hands, they often are tiny and you have to take a second to understand the position. I really like modern watches, design/durability/cost.. now I know that prices are going up.. but that just means smaller brands are the ones backfilling. Many of those brands are putting out watches at a quality point we’ve never seen. And that’s pushing the larger brands to do better. Would LONGINES be making such great watches if Chris Ward/Monta/Nomos weren’t here making watching from 1k to 4K that are amazing? I’m not saying in all cases new is better, I’m just saying the overall quality has improved.
God it's not that hard. All I want is a Blackbay 58 with a better clasp, no snowflake hands or faux rivets, standard crown, better edge on the bezel... oh and Rolex printed on the dial instead of Tudor.
😂😂😂😂
2:00 The Underpants Gnomes business model is tried tested and true 😂
My next watch purchase won't be in the $1000's, Hell it won't even break $500!
On top of that I won't even purchase if I don't sell one that I already own, lol! That's where my enthusiasm has been for many, many years!
We have innate respect and nostalgic feelings about the past, whether it be watches, cars, clothing, or films. I am chalking that up as one of the positive aspects of being human.
You'd think that by now that watch manufacturers would have worked out that there's two types of customers. Those that will buy a watch from a jeweller's shop because they like how it looks and people like us that will do hours of research and then go to an AD knowing exactly what we want. If the manufacturers were to offer us something like what you get when you order a brand new car we'd be happy and they'd not be making watches that don't sell. Make them in all sizes and colour options but with most only available at the ADs and even then not on the day. Order it, pay for it, wait a month then take delivery of the exact combination of parts you want.
Cost. It's about money. If you offer too many choices and a third of it sits unsold, that's not just money wasted it's money lost. An independent or micro brand definitely couldn't afford it.
@@SpaceG95 What I suggested is that watches of the least popular configuration are not manufactured until they're paid for in full. That's better than them not being available because a third sits unsold.
Turdify. Best description ever!
Lol...3d printing press and showing the singularity drive from Event Horizon.... literally the road to hell....so meta...
They suck because they produce not high quality ,but good quality who everyone wants to have.With Rolex you are the guy...
As always - spot on.
The hottest take was about the Dreamcast. Super under rated machine!
I’m into Nixie clocks and watches now
Bullova? Casio? Great video!
Ok this is all good, true and well written. But I want to know if Clive can still sort the chips.
Dude, Rolex has sucked for along time now!
Is it possible that instead of there being to many watches there are to few master watch makers. Quantity does not always bread quality
I have about 60 restored vintage Seiko Speedtimers. Enough said.
There is a disconnect between what folks want and the types of watches on offer. An example: lots of folks love military and field type watches. Perhaps the most iconic of these are the “dirty dozen” watches produced for the British near the end of WW2. Longines, JLC, IWC, and Omega, among others, produced these watches, yet none produce a similar watch now. Yet, Vertex, a start-up with a familial connection to the original company, has managed to exploit this market void and re-launch the brand. Why? Where are these famous Swiss brands? Wow. Every year NATO countries graduate NCO’s and officers, many of whom would love to have an iconic military watch rather than a G-Shock or something similar.
Once again I must say that Aragon is a brand that makes affordable, beautiful and quality watches
I have to 2nd that
@@andysmith9836 this is Andrew's personal channel, but on @WatchFinder they are mostly limited to what they have for sale. I don't fault that. I , like you and many other people are bored to death of the "big" names. The watch industry is dying because young people assume they have to spend 10s of thousands for a "real" watch.
Are we talking about modern watches or modern Rolex? Because watches (Casio, Orient, Citizen, Seiko) are just fine. Swiss marketing gimmicks that look like watches, on the other hand, are another story that has been removed from reality and common sense long ago.
Why does modern Rolex suck, again?
"Tingle in your balls" - hah, cheeky Andrew. (Shows an image of Zenith El Primero) Oooh, I felt it! Cheers! //Rick
Wait where can I get that cornflake watch, that looks 🔥
I was thinking the same thing
Caught you on a bad day, eh? 😅 Watches are wonderful. Full stop.
With the rise in enthusiasts and collectors, the market has exploded, and as a consequence - as well as your point about a lower barrier of access to creating a watch - the options and number of competition has also grown. This makes it harder for watch brands to stand out, so the only two options are to do something unusual and different and risky, or do something with mass appeal to tempt the greatest number of potential customers.... And so many brands are just playing it safe and not taking risks.
It doesn’t make sense to pay Rolex prices anymore. There are watches just as good for far less. I’d rather boost my stock portfolio/Bitcoin stack.
So we are saying it’s time to start buying Jacob & Co watches.
The phrase is from “Spider-Man”, not superman 😅
And it was his uncle Ben that said it....great catch!
If I buy a book l, will you sign it? Also, change merch purchase to merchase.🤣
Your summary point is why I buy cheap Chinese watches (and have a Seiko SRPE as my daily driver) Fuck waiting.
Andrew, it's like you say, unfortunately nowadays, creating a watch is easy, too easy, and that's why there are more and more watches and fewer "timepieces". The formula is simple, like you said: with a little money to start get a designer for the dial name and a logo, add a Seiko NH35 movement, and that's it, you have created a micro watch brand!
The design, of course, doesn't need to be anything innovative, nor should it. Let's go with what we know it works. The inspiration will be somewhere between a Rolex, an Omega or a Seiko, add some colorful dials, and you're good to go. Then just pick a chinese factory to produce it.
Take one of those modern watches, imagine it without the name or logo and try to guess the brand. I doubt you'll be able to do it. And that's why Modern Watches Suck.
A watch was once a functional piece of art, with a master watchmaker behind it. There was no mass production and as such, there was room for creativity. Today it is still possible to find master watchmakers, who create true works of art, but unfortunately, their creations, in most cases, are not within the reach for the of most of us.
That Superman always cracks me up😅
Why did you do the Dreamcast like that?
It was Spiderman‘s uncle, BTW 😊
There are great modern watches, they’re called G shock!😅
I don't have the funds to buy incredible watches as clumps of investment.
What I can do though is buy components and let my imagination run wild with a little help from a watch maker that can assemble them for me.
It's not a crime to get exactly what you want. Ask me Andrew, I'll send you one to review.
1:26 shoutout to a brazilian meme on an internacional UA-cam channel
There are a ton of great and amazing watches out there now
Excellent!!! 😄
I didn't know they suck. More than average, that is. Go back in time and listen to the #1 songs; they're not the ones they play in the movies.
I found my perfect watch, thanks Seiko turtle.
Is there a watch brand that make contemporary mechanical watches without any “heritage” bullshit? Richard Mille maybe. Who else?
i think, modern watches sucks is: all are copies of copies of copies. take rolex for example.. there is just nothing exiting about this brand anymore.. oh, yeah, a new sub, look, its 0,00123 mm bigger.. or omega.. o great, the next seamaster whit a colour one shade darker then ever.. oh look, Tissot releases the next PRX (but, oh boy, do we go ragemode, if a chinesebrand makes an homage).
Oisin needs to pay Ratso immediately
i get and agree with what you're saying brother! I really dislike looking at new releases anymore.However, that being said,,,I found a new brand that made me sit up and take notice and believe it or not, I have thought about making this brand my perfect 5 watch collection and selling my current collection. I just ordered one and if it meets or exceeds my expectations...well, I probably won't sell my current collection...but I will buy the other 4 styles they offer, First brand I've been excited about in awhile! But back to what your topic...I've found that I have to wade through all the mediocrity to find that hidden gem and it's easy to become disillusioned with all the choices and options. Hell, the same thing happens to me when I shop for food...500 kinds of cereal, 60 choices of peanut butter, the list goes on. Anyway, great video brother!
What brand are you speaking of?
Greed..over weight, balding middle men (with the occasional boyish looking toothpick) who make a killing after every watch sale. Let’s not forget the bastards that buy up limited watches to resell the. at several times their worth.
Nice South Park reference
Two words solve the problem:
Vacheron Constantin
Why the Omega hate?
These watches have far surpassed inflation rates…
Too many choices…. After a while, even unique watches will look boring and become more challenging to top the previous designs.
Andrew's rant is basically about rite of passage. You kind of need to do the dumb things to arrive at the self realisation of what it is you actually want. Too much choice? Well, with a little maturity, you can actually choose to be discretionary.
Lots of memes today, lol.
Rolex: treat their customers with contempt. No I am not going to bend over backwards and have my bollox bashed by a bungee rope to buy your overblown, overpriced product. Simple.
The reason that most modern watches suck is the reason that most marketing is rubbish too: risk. Most modern corporations just aren’t brave enough to actually properly innovate and do something they BELIEVE in. As a result everything looks like the output of a grey suit, because, well it is. And when someone comes along with something utterly original everyone says it’s bonkers and brilliant at the same time. Work that actually reflects the mind and not the data is infinitely more satisfying - even if you don’t like it you can appreciate it
Modern seiko sucks because the prospex and seiko 5 logo sucks. Modern rolex sucks because Im not sure they are made to last with movements that have more power reserve but feedbacks of performance issues.. modrn watches also sucks as they are made too unscratchable that they wont aged beautifully with me. There is no more real patina but only fauxtina which is lame
Why Dreamcast hate though? 😢
They don’t. BUT inflation is killing the hobby …. BIG TIME 😢
"a single piece being the life's work of a passionate brand"...remember this one for the future
Rolex can’t wait for them to come back to earth
I like vintage watches cause I'm cheap. 😅
😮 How did you read my mind?
one could argue that the most modern watches are the first ones in history that don't suck
I couldn't disagree more. Watch some watch repair channels and you'll see them service watches over 50 years old and a lot need nothing more than a strip down and lubricating and they can easily be adjusted to run with a few seconds a day.
@@garyboyle695 it is true that the unnecessary use of high tech materials in movements make them overly complicated. That explains why most micro brands use simple Asian movements to avoid the BS
*lmfao I tried I really did I had a coffee but I just kept spitting it out sip after sip lol Fukin jokes episode!!*
Rolex, the porsche 911 of watch design
Good analogy, it's also true that they were both only cool in the '50s '60s and maybe '70s. They have a very different vibe now. Back in the early '70s my boss had a BMW 3200, that made him the coolest man in town in my eyes, by the '90s he wouldn't even look at one because he was still cool.
Rolex AD = Snobs. Rolex flippers = ripping off stupid people that will pay over MSRP for an already overpriced, overrated watch. I don’t want or need this company.
I am worth it, and they found a way to get me two.
Can we talk about other brands?? It seems there is only one brand in the world😂😂😂
Not the Dreamcast...
Andrew good content but you need a different logo or colours.. Your logo is hard to read and makes me feel irritated! 😅
You are just upset that your Roly did not survive when you dropped it onto some rocks (because, after all, why sit down when fiddling with your watch strap when you can stand on some rocks?).🤣
It's a strange age for watches. The brand approval rating for Rolex is infinitely higher than for any other brand. There are much better watches than Rolex (Patek, Vacheron, Breguet, Lange, etc.) but even non-watch-enthusiasts who wouldn't know a Patek from a Seiko, recognise Rolex as a signature life prize. When worn without bluster or hubris, Rolex has that extraordinary perceived value. It is one of the few watches that make servicing costs tolerable. Cheaper mechanical watches still require servicing, but there comes a time when the servicing cost is greater than the value of the watch (e.g. 1970s Seiko Jumbo).
My daily watch is a twenty-year-old Rolex which people occasionally notice: some comment, others notice but say nothing. My breathtakingly perfect/expensive watch from one of the high horology makers mentioned above, goes completely un-noticed and unremarked. Unless funds are unlimited I advise - buy subtle, buy tasteful, buy quality, buy once, buy Rolex. You'll have paid too much for what the watch really is, but the multiple attaching values are with you for a lifetime.
While I can’t speak to the marketing, I’ve had the extreme privilege of owning numerous Panerai, Lange, Omega, Tudor, Breitling… Rolex truly are something special. The reliability, robustness, aesthetics… incredible watches. It’s cliche but, that’s just my opinion. I love them, among other brands of course.
Vintage gang rise up
Modern things are for kids. I wrote the first thing that came to mind, I don't know if it's true..