Samoan Tatau (Tattoo): who should get it? who should give it?
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- My opinion on who should get and give the Samoan Tatau (tattoo)
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Thanks for sharing. I'm a palagi (person of European descent) who has a 'malofie' or more commonly termed 'pe'a' (traditional Samoan male tattoo) and while I believed that I couldn't and shouldn't get it, my adopted Samoan family and friends convinced me otherwise. Fearful of doing the wrong thing, I researched and spoke with my Samoan family as well as Samoan elders and cultural experts openly and at length. I learnt that within the Samoan culture the Tafuga ta tatau (master tattooists) are the ones who decide who should and shouldn't receive the pe'a or malu (traditional Samoan female tattoo); that it has always been their family's gift which they decide to share or not. I recognise and respect, however, that there is some disagreement with this. Despite not being Samoan, I have lived and continued to work and volunteer in the community. I will never truly know Samoan culture but will always be committed to my Samoan aiga (family) and community through my alofa (love) and ongoing tautua (service) to them. Manuia le aso tagata uma
God bless 🙏
thank you for sharing. It is great to see you did your research and had the blessing of your Samoan family.
Yeah you shouldn’t get one
There will be always disagreement no matter what. All because lack of knowledge this is why we go back to the Bible to learn and why is forbidden. Even tufuga or the tattooist or Wiseman in other words or witchcraft in evil practice because it is evil practice like c'mon now blood involve for culture. So it will always be disagreement but learn the fact that why? Ask that question why? Than you know why there is confusion.
God was never a God of confusion but Righteousness.
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OK so here's my story. The majority of my family is Egyptian. However my father's mother is from Samoa. She died when my father was young and he didn't know much about the culture.
I have recently meet up with a group of Samoans in Toronto. We have a chief there who I have sat with and told my story about my grandmother to. He told me that he had no problem with me getting a tatau.
I'm conflicted because I have never been to Samoa, nor am I full verst in the culture. The more I learn of the culture, the people the food, the more I am grateful for my Samoan heritage.
My only concern is that some Samoans may feel that I shouldn't get a Tatau because of such a, small part of me is Samoan.
Another concern is that I cannot find a Samoan tatau artist in Canada.
Thank you for your video.
I don't believe in using blood quantum to decide on how Samoan a person is. If you have Samoan blood you are Samoan full stop. That is my opinion. The fact that you are learning and that you want to learn more about your Samoan heritage is what you should be concentrating on. One thing I have learned in trying to find out what my identity as a Samoan is to me is that other people's thoughts on my Samoan identity are none of my business. Yes if I am speaking Samoan incorrectly or doing a Samoan tradition incorrectly it is important for me to do these according to culture and taking in corrections in that sense is necessary. How I feel about being Samoan and what I do to increase my connection to being Samoan is specific to an individual and what other people think about it shouldn't matter. If getting a tatau helps you feel closer and learning about the culture through tatu helps you, then do that.
I would suggest you follow some of the master Tattooist on social media as they travel around the world and could be in your area. You could even ask them to come to Canada.
@@MeasinaSamoathat’s stupid. You are ignorant on how race and genetics work!
One drop of blood is all Samoa needs. And the fact that you acknowledge Samoa well then Samoa claims you. As Samoans we must acknowledge everyone in the room so to speak. Be proud of all parts of you brother. God bless you on your journey 😊
Samoan culture goes back time of Ham which is the father of the Egyptians or African.
Pretty much tattoo comes from Egyptian.
And if you study the mummies they tattoo their gods on their body which that's exactly what it was.
The whole purpose is to impingement the gods in your body and your blood will goes to which demon that are behind those gods that comes from prince of darkness or principalities or the anunaki or the fallen angels that God cast out of heaven.
So the moment you tattoo your body you sign a covenant and agreement with this demons who bought this knowledge to Samoa from the twins.
In maori is Ta moko or the (mark) or means mark me. Question is mark me why and for who?
Now if you ask me for our culture, then comes second question where does our culture comes from.
If Egypt underworld god name Osiris who is Samoan underworld god because that's what maori believes where ta moko comes from.
But in Samoa is pulotu or Fiji or tonga. Wait so who is in the underworld. Bible speaks about fallen angels who are bind in chains in hell.
So why is still a disagreement? Understand Lucifer and you'll understand why there is confusion.
@muaposala1041 I'm still on the fence about getting tattooed. It's a big deal and I have to make sure it's correct.
my mom agrees with you!
I wanted to get a malu but my mom said i cannot get one until I understand more about the Samoa culture and I am ready to take care of my family. She also said I would have to go to Samoa to do it and have a real tattoo person there do it and someone else has to get one with me? Also I have to wait until I am older because it is aginst the law here for a kid to have one here in America. I hope i can get one when I am 18. 😺 say hi to your son!
Your mum is very wise! Will keep an eye out for your tatau journey when you are older. Logan said to say hi back.
Men don’t find tattoos on a woman attractive! That’s like putting bumper stickers on a Ferrari.
So my question is how many things from other cultures do you take part in, and do you find it’s disrespectful?
It isn’t so much the taking part it is understanding the tradition behind it. I don’t go out and make kilts because I love Scottish culture. I wouldn’t get a tattoo with Chinese symbols. There are boundaries. Some people don’t care about the boundaries or understanding.
Am from Kenya and for a long time I've taken interest to know the samoan culture..the colonisation part is painful i get trust me because as kenyans we were colonised too and we don't joke about it..and i love the other cultures as well..for samoan culture its not just the tattoos its just how you do life.there is a lot to learn from you guys..just like any country anywhere in the world we have good and bad people..but it one's choice to embrace what's helpful or good that can help to build togetherness..i just love you culture madam and I've been longing to have a samoan tatoo..but am knowledgeable and respectful enough to ask for the meanings because i don't wanna walk around with a tattoos that i can't explain what it is...
You samoans are talented a lot,.so will it be offensive to tell my story so they can figure or up with a specific tatoo that suits my story,that way i don't have to copy and paste a samoan tatoo??
Once again i really respect your culture and hopefully some day i will be able to visit samoa and learn more..and thanks for your content its really helpful.
The Pe'a /Malu is one designed. People can create their own pattern and own it. I'm Chinese Samoan from the Toelupe branch line - hail from Malie, Apia. I am learning the Pattern of the Pe'a and ive asked my elders and parents for approval, I have supported my Aiga, and family even families not even related to me, what can I say Im a Feeder.
This is wonderful to hear. Yes the structure of the malu/pea is set in place but the designs/motifs/mamanu are what change for each individual. We hope you share your tatau journey we would love to hear more.
@@MeasinaSamoa For the Mamanu pattern on the thigh, I noticed they are different designs. Also the pattern on the Pute and the Tali Pute the Navel/ Belly button are different for most guys can you please explain to my why they vary and how do I choose what to put on there please Measina 🙏🏼 Fa'a
West Papuan here
Sadly this happened to my ppl as well
Tattoo was actualy a part of our culture but ever since the colonizers came,the practice was banned. The last person in my family with traditional tattoos was my grandmother and even then she was still forced to hide it while some older people even tried to remove it.
Sad to know that my generation and the future generations of West Papua would never get these tattoo which has been a part of our identity pass down by our ancestors for many generations.
Have you seen Marks of Mana? Here is a link ua-cam.com/video/-BnfqztQ0Kk/v-deo.html
I loved to see how in PNG they are also trying to bring their tattoos back.
So did Papuan people get the pea?
Tatau was supposed to be just for daughters of High Chiefs not for any ordinary girls. Bruh make this make sense. Its not for fashion or to boost your pride but it is for women who have that priviledge and rich with the aganuu.
I guess it could be compared to women getting a chief title? Didn't used to happen but it does now. Culture can change over time. As Samoans we are keepers of our culture it is our place to teach the generations today. Something that may be missing and a contributing factor?
Hey, I'm a aga kasi Samoan. Want to get a tatau. Because 1) I think it is beautiful and 2)because it is of my cultural heritage. I did think about the malu? What are your thoughts on Samoan born outside of Samoa, who aren't as connected to the culture as they should ideally be, but want to get a traditional tatau such as the pe'a or malu? Your thoughts are appreciated
Sorry that was a typo *afa not aga 😂
What many don't realise is that there are more people with Samoan heritage living outside of Samoa than in Samoa. It is our job to make those connections to culture no matter how big or small. The decision to get a Malu is between you and your family, ultimately you. Do you feel getting it would strengthen your connection to culture? Have you done the work to undestand the meaning behind the tattoo and the patterns (mamanu)?
Fa'afetai tele lava for your feedback. Really appreciate your response ❤ Your response really makes sense. Words of wisdom. Fa'afetai tele lava ❤
Good video! I was going to tell you how my daughter is bugging for one, but I see she already wrote to you! 😅 Keep up the great videos!!🤩
Awesome! Thank you!
Don’t let her get a tattoo. She might as well grow a beard and muscles if that’s the case.
I’m African American and I’ve always wanted Tatau since I was a little girl. I fell in love with the culture as a whole and I wanted to get a turtle on the back of my calf but I was never sure if i was appropriate to get it or not because I’m not Samoan nor Polynesian and I could never find out if I could or couldn’t because I couldn’t find anyone with a video like this to explain it better in depth now contact someone from the culture but now I know
I am so happy I could help you. If you have more questions let me know and I will try to answer them for you.
Do u sis lol honestly anything but the pe’a and malu isn’t traditional. Sleeves and all those are just a representation of our people and culture it isn’t traditional so in my opinion those type of tataus I don’t mind
@@soisaaga9783 thank you for your opinion
@@kaixo1316 thank you for sharing. I feel as you are using Samoan traditional motifs and designs you should at the least know what they represent and their meanings. Also ensuring you are using a tattoo artist who also knows and understands the meanings is something I would urge you to do.
Fa’afetai for sharing this story!
I have been wanting to get tatau for a long time now and the opportunity hasn’t presented itself.
I am going to Sāmoa in OCT of this year (2023). Is there anyone that you would recommend in the Apia area?
Suluape in Apia opposite the Catholic Church.. u hv to book first
@@joannemcfall3334 thank you so much for the recommendation. Do you have a website or email address to contact them?
Here is their Facebook page facebook.com/SuluapeAP/
What about those married to a samoan? A friend of mine recieved alot of hate for getting hers. She is well respected her husband, family and kids are well known samoan actors and actresses but she is not samoan.
Thanks for the comment. I actually didn't want to comment because I know who you are referring to. I am pretty sure I stated in the video I don't think any palagi should get a malu/pea. I don't actually make the rules, because there are no rules. This is my opinion. You can go to another Samoan and have a completely different outlook on the situation. Culture is not set in stone. History is though. Our traumatic history of colonisation is still being felt in our people today. It is when palagi came and took what they wanted without regard to our people. When palagi take our tatau without knowledge of it's history, meaning or tautua it is like they are colonising us again. Obviously we have palagi who marry into the family and learn the language and culture and serve our family. We love them, but in my opinion they should find other ways to show their love of Samoa not through the malu/pea.
Keep at it
Thanks
Basically is cultural appropriation, and yes that's what happens when colonizers enter the room. You can also choose to see it as flattery; soo many people love your culture and artform. Personally id never get one, but i love seeing them. same thing for yakuza tattoos
Thank you and 💯 agree it isn't just Samoan tattoos
Tatau purpose is support the Sa'o (main family) chief and be able to speak amongst other Samoan Chiefs to support the family and village disputes in Samoa.
If you have a Tatau and haven't contribute to your family or the main Sa'o main family Chief in your village or family in Samoa.
Well just say you're a fia Tagata, or just showing off for attention, look at me, look at me, saying I'm a Samoan, I am Chief with a stinky pukiO...100% facts ladies and gentlemen.