My great grandfather Donald Davis was the lead mold maker and Wagner for over 30 years. I still have many of his cast iron pots and pans and music creations. I also have a few wagner mold blanks that I will keep forever !
@@honeyj.badger5484 I'll happily send you some photos via email if you'd like. I actually just pulled out his Wagner mold for the 1985 Ohio State Fair pan ash trays I plan on making a few recasts when time allows
I picked up a skillet today and I think it's a pretty old Wagner.The Wagner logo is straight not curved, the handle is curved, not straight. The logo is near the handle, not across from it. I'm going to run it through the clean cycle of my oven, hopefully the Wagner imprint will be more visible. So excited to find this today, paid 12 bucks. I already used the oven cleaner in the bag trick, the Wagner was totally obscured by the layers of seasoning.
Quite an exquisite collection you have. A lot of history there! I’d love to get a nice antique cast iron skillet like those. Probably blows my modern cast iron outta the water in terms of quality of finish
Great video Mud! You know so much about so many things. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us! I must say , your collection of cast iron is a bit envious to us that appreciate it!😉 Ps...so sorry I missed the live.
I purchased a wagner ware 8 a little while back. It has the curved wagner ware logo with 1 big W. No sidney -0- marking. It has a a great circular finish on the inside. When was this pan manufacturered?
Thanks for all of the info! 👍 My mother just gave me an old (10" I think) cast iron skillet. I'm 53 and she's had it longer than I've been around. I'm not sure of the manufacturer, the only marking I see is on the bottom and it looks like a faint 80. It does have a heat ring on the bottom but I'm not sure if it's as pronounced as your Wagner pans. It's hard to tell at the moment because it has quite a bit of seasoning/carbon build-up on it, especially around the heat ring area and the middle on the bottom. I'm going to strip it down to bare cast iron or close to it and re-start the seasoning process on it, maybe I'll uncover some other markings. The seasoning is pocked and gouged here and there and there's a rubbed off patch on the outer side of the pan, probably where it's been moved around so much over the years and different things set inside of it like other cast iron etc etc. Mom didn't use this pan very often so it never really had a chance to re-build seasoning on it, especially where it's been scratched and pock marked because she has another cast iron skillet that she used regularly and still uses. I'll try to see if I can uncover more markings on it soon when I strip it.
Great information! I have never had a cast iron skillet. Would love to look at getting some but not sure if I can use cast iron on a glass top stove??Thanks!
I don't have any personal experience with glasstops but a lot of people use cast iron on them. As long as you don't drag the pan around and scratch the top, apparently it doesn't cause any problems.
My wife and have a glass cook top. For the last 5 years that's all we use is cast iron. Just want to be careful! Don't drop it on it and i don't slide it around.
Great videos !!! I love Wagner Cast Iron and want to learn as much as I can about it. I especially like the older skillets with the outside heat rings, Dutch ovens, and lids. I wish you could do videos on 10 & 12 inch Dutch ovens and their lids and basting drip point patterns. Good Lids are very hard to find and frequently cost more than the oven. Also hard to find oven with its original bail handle. Many are sold with replaced or modified handles.Thanks for this video. I look forward to learning more from your videos.
Yeah, cast lids are tough to find, but glass lids are a good alternative if you can't find one. Know what measurement you need and hit the second hand shops, they usually have quite a few. Lids with a molded in knob are best, ones with a separate plastic knob aren't always oven safe. You might even get lucky and find a Wagner or Griswold marked glass lid. For cast lids a #8 Lodge lid fits quite a few different skillets and dutch ovens. They still make them but last time I checked they were still back ordered. A lot of times though you can find a newer Lodge dutch oven with a lid fairly cheap and while the logo has changed, the lid itself has been the same for the last 70 years or more.
@@TheMudbrooker I especially like Wagner 10 inch 5 quart Dutch ovens (1283 I think) and have discovered that 10 inch Lodge lids fit perfectly. So I have 3 of them. Two with flat lids that I use for camp baking and one with a domed lid. You can find lids at Lodge factory outlet stores but 10 inch flat lids are very hard to get.
The main reason is scarcity, they were only made for a couple of years (late 20's or the early 30's, nobody is quite sure) so there aren't many around. Also, they're cooler looking than the average Wagner so there's a strong demand. Low supply+high demand= high price.
In your "economy" section you showed a National with the fancy logo in the center with National at the top. I just ordered one just like it except there is no catalog number, but just a size number at the 6 oclock position, number 8. Would it be a safe bet then that this is pre 1924?
@@TheMudbrooker Maybe you know the answer to this question also. I have an unmarked dutch oven with a hammered lid, and the number 8 on the inside of the lid and on the bottom of the pot. I didn't notice until just today that there's a small handle/lip (not part of the actual wire handle) and noticed a W on it on the underside of the lip looking at the bottom of the pot. Is this an actual Wagner Dutch oven?
I'm hoping you might be able to help me figure this one out. I have a number 8 pan with a heat ring that is part of the side. On the bottom is a diamond with an 8 inside of it. It's located by the handle. The underside of the handle has three dash marks on it. It's a light pan, polished and is very similar to a wagner that I own. Idont know the manufacturer or year of manufacture.
Hi! I love your collection! It's beautiful! So when does the Magnalite come into play? Are they just cast iron too and if not how do they differ? How many Magnalite size/ styles/types of pans/skillets/pots were made?
Wagner made cast aluminum since the company started in 1892, but Magnalite is a brand name of cast aluminum that Wagner started making in the 1930's. There were tons and tons of different styles and items.
Seriously just what I was looking for literally just got cast-iron from Wagner ware (3 and 5 ) and the logo is just so damn beautiful. 😆 barely scratched the surface with Google. I love me some history and cast iron.
Great info. Is it possible to flatten a spinner? Its bowed out in the smack center. Would work great on a gas stove. But i have electric glasstop. All my other pans work fine on it.
I'm very new and have just cleaned up a skillet that is stamped "14 Inch Skillet" & "Made In USA" with a "B" stamp...the top of the handle says 12. Initial research points me towards a post 1960 Wagner...any thoughts?
I have owned a cast aluminum Wagner drip drop baster lid for many years. No matching pot it is marked 265A in the bottom middle. and "PATENTED DEC.4-17 MCH.,8-21.MCH.,14-22" Can anyone tell be something about this lid? I want to sell it. I was going to scrap it, but it is in good condition and looks like a neat antique.
@@davidkramer6458 Wagner bought out Sidney Hollow Ware company in 1897 and kept the name going until about 1910, that's when the name "Sidney" in block letters was used. From 1888-1897 when the company was on their own they used either a cursive script "Sidney" or the full company name "Sidney Hollow Ware Company, Sidney O" in block letters.
There is an etsy seller that takes a Lodge pan and smooths the cooking surface. The photos look nice but he is asking 125.00 for it and you can get a stargazer for that guaranteed for life.
Have a Wagner, no ring on bottom, made in USA and has the instructions on bottom along with 1&3/4" high skillet. It has alot of gunk over the years so hard to see a name under Wagner in cursive. Worth anything was going to use it for chicken feed bowl. It's a spinner so figured not worth anything.
My great grandfather Donald Davis was the lead mold maker and Wagner for over 30 years. I still have many of his cast iron pots and pans and music creations. I also have a few wagner mold blanks that I will keep forever !
I live in the Sidney area and an avid cast iron collector, would really like to see that collection,
@@honeyj.badger5484 I'll happily send you some photos via email if you'd like. I actually just pulled out his Wagner mold for the 1985 Ohio State Fair pan ash trays I plan on making a few recasts when time allows
I picked up a skillet today and I think it's a pretty old Wagner.The Wagner logo is straight not curved, the handle is curved, not straight. The logo is near the handle, not across from it. I'm going to run it through the clean cycle of my oven, hopefully the Wagner imprint will be more visible. So excited to find this today, paid 12 bucks. I already used the oven cleaner in the bag trick, the Wagner was totally obscured by the layers of seasoning.
Thank you for videos you are a wealth of knowledge. I am fairly new to collecting and restoring cast iron and you have been a big help.
Quite an exquisite collection you have. A lot of history there! I’d love to get a nice antique cast iron skillet like those. Probably blows my modern cast iron outta the water in terms of quality of finish
Shot a video last week from inside the furnace room at the condemned Wagner plant. Not much holding it up anymore
Thank you so much for sharing this very useful information!
Great video Mud! You know so much about so many things. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us! I must say , your collection of cast iron is a bit envious to us that appreciate it!😉
Ps...so sorry I missed the live.
Thank you for all this useful info! I appreciate your videos!
I purchased a wagner ware 8 a little while back. It has the curved wagner ware logo with 1 big W. No sidney -0- marking. It has a a great circular finish on the inside. When was this pan manufacturered?
Thanks for the content..
Just fitted up an early cast iron coal fire..
Maybe I can send you a picture?
Thanks for all of the info! 👍
My mother just gave me an old (10" I think) cast iron skillet. I'm 53 and she's had it longer than I've been around. I'm not sure of the manufacturer, the only marking I see is on the bottom and it looks like a faint 80. It does have a heat ring on the bottom but I'm not sure if it's as pronounced as your Wagner pans. It's hard to tell at the moment because it has quite a bit of seasoning/carbon build-up on it, especially around the heat ring area and the middle on the bottom. I'm going to strip it down to bare cast iron or close to it and re-start the seasoning process on it, maybe I'll uncover some other markings. The seasoning is pocked and gouged here and there and there's a rubbed off patch on the outer side of the pan, probably where it's been moved around so much over the years and different things set inside of it like other cast iron etc etc. Mom didn't use this pan very often so it never really had a chance to re-build seasoning on it, especially where it's been scratched and pock marked because she has another cast iron skillet that she used regularly and still uses.
I'll try to see if I can uncover more markings on it soon when I strip it.
Great video!! What about Sydney Holloware? Where/When does that fit in or does it?
Great information! I have never had a cast iron skillet. Would love to look at getting some but not sure if I can use cast iron on a glass top stove??Thanks!
I don't have any personal experience with glasstops but a lot of people use cast iron on them. As long as you don't drag the pan around and scratch the top, apparently it doesn't cause any problems.
My wife and have a glass cook top. For the last 5 years that's all we use is cast iron. Just want to be careful! Don't drop it on it and i don't slide it around.
Great videos !!! I love Wagner Cast Iron and want to learn as much as I can about it. I especially like the older skillets with the outside heat rings, Dutch ovens, and lids. I wish you could do videos on 10 & 12 inch Dutch ovens and their lids and basting drip point patterns. Good Lids are very hard to find and frequently cost more than the oven. Also hard to find oven with its original bail handle. Many are sold with replaced or modified handles.Thanks for this video. I look forward to learning more from your videos.
Yeah, cast lids are tough to find, but glass lids are a good alternative if you can't find one. Know what measurement you need and hit the second hand shops, they usually have quite a few. Lids with a molded in knob are best, ones with a separate plastic knob aren't always oven safe. You might even get lucky and find a Wagner or Griswold marked glass lid. For cast lids a #8 Lodge lid fits quite a few different skillets and dutch ovens. They still make them but last time I checked they were still back ordered. A lot of times though you can find a newer Lodge dutch oven with a lid fairly cheap and while the logo has changed, the lid itself has been the same for the last 70 years or more.
@@TheMudbrooker I especially like Wagner 10 inch 5 quart Dutch ovens (1283 I think) and have discovered that 10 inch Lodge lids fit perfectly. So I have 3 of them. Two with flat lids that I use for camp baking and one with a domed lid. You can find lids at Lodge factory outlet stores but 10 inch flat lids are very hard to get.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge & impressive collection. Very well done.
I’m looking for a HD roaster magnalite/Wagner USA roaster. What model is the biggest and the heaviest duty? Great video!
Sorry I missed the live, but, I'm watching it now. Thank you. 👍
Hello Mudbrooker! Picked up a Pie Logo number 11. What is so special about the Pie logo that makes them cost so much? Keep up the great videos!
The main reason is scarcity, they were only made for a couple of years (late 20's or the early 30's, nobody is quite sure) so there aren't many around. Also, they're cooler looking than the average Wagner so there's a strong demand. Low supply+high demand= high price.
The nickel plated wagner you had i believe it was the 1401 is part of the double skillet
Excellent! My cast iron is from grandma...1920s vintage Wagner...I use it every day here near Ester, Alaska.
Thanks for showing us your collection. How many years have you been collecting?
In your "economy" section you showed a National with the fancy logo in the center with National at the top. I just ordered one just like it except there is no catalog number, but just a size number at the 6 oclock position, number 8. Would it be a safe bet then that this is pre 1924?
Yup, Wagner started using the catalog number in 1924.
@@TheMudbrooker Maybe you know the answer to this question also. I have an unmarked dutch oven with a hammered lid, and the number 8 on the inside of the lid and on the bottom of the pot. I didn't notice until just today that there's a small handle/lip (not part of the actual wire handle) and noticed a W on it on the underside of the lip looking at the bottom of the pot. Is this an actual Wagner Dutch oven?
@@chadlpnemt Send some pictures to themudbrooker@yahoo.com and I'll have a look at it and see if I can figure it out.
I'm hoping you might be able to help me figure this one out. I have a number 8 pan with a heat ring that is part of the side. On the bottom is a diamond with an 8 inside of it. It's located by the handle. The underside of the handle has three dash marks on it. It's a light pan, polished and is very similar to a wagner that I own. Idont know the manufacturer or year of manufacture.
That sounds like a Chicago Hardware Foundry skillet.
@TheMudbrooker Thanx, any idea on age?
@@bradleymiller7960 From about 1900 up to the mid 1930's
@TheMudbrooker Thanx again.
Thanks, great video. Great info.
Hey Mudbrooker could you please help me when did Wagner make the frying pan thats says Wagner 1891 original is it old or not ?
No, they're not very old. They were first made as a one hundredth anniversary edition in 1992 and continued production up until about 2000.
Like the wood stove have one like it only taller ! Thanks for the videos
Hi! I love your collection! It's beautiful!
So when does the Magnalite come into play? Are they just cast iron too and if not how do they differ?
How many Magnalite size/ styles/types of pans/skillets/pots were made?
Wagner made cast aluminum since the company started in 1892, but Magnalite is a brand name of cast aluminum that Wagner started making in the 1930's. There were tons and tons of different styles and items.
I have a unmarked peice. It has the half moon heat rings on the bottom. Can you tell me what it is.thanks Roger.
Thanks for your informative videos
I just picked up a Wagner (arc’d) with Sidney. Without the “O”. Any idea the dates this would have been made or could be a factory mistake?
Seriously just what I was looking for literally just got cast-iron from Wagner ware (3 and 5 ) and the logo is just so damn beautiful.
😆 barely scratched the surface with Google.
I love me some history and cast iron.
How do you clean the Magnalite cookware to restore it?
Sand paper
@@stevemoy9834 Thank you.
What year did they add made in USA
Great info. Is it possible to flatten a spinner? Its bowed out in the smack center. Would work great on a gas stove. But i have electric glasstop. All my other pans work fine on it.
Heat it up and use a hydraulic press?
You could sand it down in the middle. But if you do you’re destroying any collectibility.
I've heard of putting it in a campfire and setting a log on it till it cools. But I don't want to ruin it.
Hello from North Carolina!
What about the ones that just say "Sidney" in an arch across the top?
I'm very new and have just cleaned up a skillet that is stamped "14 Inch Skillet" & "Made In USA" with a "B" stamp...the top of the handle says 12. Initial research points me towards a post 1960 Wagner...any thoughts?
Yup, that's an unmarked, post 1960 Wagner.
Mine is 10.5 and has M stamped on it. Im also questing for answers
I have owned a cast aluminum Wagner drip drop baster lid for many years. No matching pot it is marked 265A in the bottom middle. and "PATENTED DEC.4-17 MCH.,8-21.MCH.,14-22" Can anyone tell be something about this lid? I want to sell it. I was going to scrap it, but it is in good condition and looks like a neat antique.
What are some of the largest skillets that you have?
When was an unmarked 9 3/4 inch #7 B Wagner made? I see the Ds, but can't find mine. I'm thinking 1940?
I have a #9 D with Sidney in all caps and italics 1/3 down from the top. Any idea what year?
Is it a cursive script or are they block letters?
Block letters
@@davidkramer6458 Wagner bought out Sidney Hollow Ware company in 1897 and kept the name going until about 1910, that's when the name "Sidney" in block letters was used. From 1888-1897 when the company was on their own they used either a cursive script "Sidney" or the full company name "Sidney Hollow Ware Company, Sidney O" in block letters.
I found an abandoned Wagner and it has cloth burnt onto it so Im having a hard time figuring out when it was made.
Don’t the GHC pans appear upside down also. Weird.
There is an etsy seller that takes a Lodge pan and smooths the cooking surface. The photos look nice but he is asking 125.00 for it and you can get a stargazer for that guaranteed for life.
Thank you!
good video , informative 👍
61/2 inch with letter A
Says Wagner's Original 1891 and has seasoning instructions. Is this older
The 1891's were made in the 1990's.
Is fair to say that Wagner's with a heat ring are generally older and more valuable than those without?
Yes, Wagner discontinued heat rings in the early-mid 30's
Thank you
When you pass away ?
What happens to the cast iron ?
Depends on who gets here first. :)
When did they make an aluminum skillet, not Magnilite
I’ve got one of the Wagner Sidney o 10
Did they make less nickel plated skillets compared to regular cast iron. Read that the nickel plated was a more expensive skillet.
Yes, they were fewer and originally cost a bit more but pans with worn plating are usually worth less than the plain iron ones nowadays.
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Have a Wagner, no ring on bottom, made in USA and has the instructions on bottom along with 1&3/4" high skillet. It has alot of gunk over the years so hard to see a name under Wagner in cursive. Worth anything was going to use it for chicken feed bowl. It's a spinner so figured not worth anything.
Stylized logo Wagners that spin are still worth $15-$35, depending on the size.
Joseph lodge
Lodge is the best 100% ever
Why it the best..
Block letters