Discovery #4 | The Four Great Discoveries of Modern Science That Prove God Exists
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- In recent years, research of the human cell has unearthed some of the enormous complexity found within the basic unit that composes our bodies. Increasingly, the evidence points toward an outside intelligence as the only sufficient source to explain the cell’s existence. Dr. Stephen Meyer joins Dr. John Ankerberg.
Dr. Meyer is brilliant! I LOVE this series!
Steven is an intelligent guy. He has evidence. I mean the universe is perfectly tuned for life to begin. Jupiter ,our distance to the sun... God is the answer to purpuse and Science. A design needs a designer. How much time would we wait till nothing creates everthing.
This is not intelligent. This is mistaking "common sense" for proper reasoning. The inadequacy of "common sense" is exactly why we understood so little about the world until the modern scientific method evolved.
DNA proves the Lord 🙏🏼❤️
this is amazing, i love how the series is structured so well, and that it brings up the attempted refutations, this is essential for truth seeking.
2nd Peter3 verse 8. To God a thousand years is to a day as the Father created time and lives outside time.
In ancient China there was an old belief called Taoism. Taoism has the following explanation for the creation of the universe: At the start, there was nothing, except Tao, which doesn't have a physical form. Then Tao created "something" from "nothing". The "something" created then went on to create "1". From "1" came "2", and from "2" came "3". With these everything of the universe was created. Originally I didn't understand the significance of creating "3", before creation of everything. As to me "2" would have been enough, since we see a lot of matters/forces/living things having two opposing characters only(e.g. north and south poles of magnets, male and female of human beings). Yet, after studying quantum mechanics, I understand that all the elementary particles (except possibly the newly discovered Higgs bosons) take 3 different forms, then I begin to realize why "3" was needed to be created before creating everything. Can Tao in China be the same as God in Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Orthodoxy...?
The misunderstanding of the Deists is that they confuse the idea that God created His creation in 6 days, and on the 7th day He rested, with the different proposition that God intervenes in His creation and the events and flow of history since then.
Beautiful...
Thanks
What's the name of the music here? It's the same theme used in Fr Robert Spitzer's EWTN series New Proofs for the Existence of God which covers the cosmological evidence covered here, as well as some the philosophical proofs.
Ummmm, DNA code is Hexadecimal, not Binary. Binary is ones and zeros, base 2. Hexadecimal is base 16, which is what DNA is...
GOD is in the things unseen but can only be known by the things seen
Not quite...He can be known as one person knows another. It is called relationship. John 10:4, 17:3 (and many more). Without a personal relationship with the Creator of the universe all you have is a mental religion or beliefs.
Steven Meyer sounds like Christian Science or the wisdom of the Bible are exactly correct at pointing out a Infinite GOD which is real and eternal while matter is not substantial
Gregory M - your sentence makes zero sense logically or otherwise
Christian Science or the art of healing through prayer proves there is No actual material powers .You will not understand this until you inquire and then understand that which is taught in that science . Next you will understand GOD or Infinite Divine Mind is completely in control of a perfect creation , Hence God driven creation . The bible is correct and you will cure disease instantly like the bible teaches . That known no one will be able to tell you falsities of mans theories . Christian prayer raises the dead . That is testable and provable .So evolution is complete fraud .So Steven Myers has at least the beginning of faith . He is sincere.
A singularity at the beginning of time only cries out for an explanation because in our experience there is nothing that begins to exist simultaneously with time itself. We cannot imagine something beginning to exist without also imagining a time before that when it did not exist. However, there was not time before the beginning when the universe did not exist. Therefore, we cannot sat that it "came into being" out of a preceding state. This type of beginning is something so far outside of our experience, so different from any kind of beginning that we have any experience of, that it is just foolhardy to presume that it requires some outside cause. Of course, maybe it does, but we really don't know that.
I could make the same argument with God. We can't possibly understand Creation because of the Creator's infinite wisdom. It's more than we can comprehend. People have no problem doing that with evolution but scoff at believers who do the same thing with God. The fav question is "who created God?" He has always existed and always will.
great little series that sums up some of the issues, I only wish he had included a discussion of pan-en-theism as a model
Linda Christensen, PhD - yup, witches n warlocks made the universe 😂
Don't you think it of import to mention that, ....... if there be an intelligent designer, still involving Himself in this experiment, creator of life and individual souls which make each and every one of us unique, ......... we are subject to His laws and morality ?
I mean, the bible is another code, like dna, that describes His laws and plan for our morality, that has not contradicted itself, has lasted throughout the ages, in many different cultures, w/ out succumbing to the ages of assaults and attacks pounded against it, ....... , that makes a good case for proof of HIs creation, will for us and promise to us ?
I believe it of major import to share His word w/ everyone , now that the information has poised Him to be the best answer to all these questions. For if we fail to enlighten the masses of His word, we are as guilty for their sins as they. We will be held accountable !!
Thanks for the wonderful video's,
Sincerely .....................
I do believe the bible asks us to spread His Word, just as I believe He expects us to spread his word. I don't presume to judge whom needs to hear it and whom may not. Therefore I must spread the word to everyone and pray for their ears to hear and heart to be open and absorb the truth.
I have not suggested here above or my previous comment to "make" someone believe or "make" them act in any particular way or that we even "could control" what others do w/ the information we share.
I've simply revealed that I believe it important to God and directed by the bible to be our duty to spread the word. I then asked the vlogger if he thought it important to include the idea of spreading the word and it's importance, seeing how he made this beautiful 4 part , in depth video, of the proof that God exists.
I'm confused ? How do you make disciples of people that don't know the word ? How do you help someone to follow Jesus if you don't explain His word ?
I'm just a C+ man so I may not be smart enough to hold a conversation w/ the likes of you ?Sincerely ..................
I appreciate your knowledge of many of the things God wants :) I appreciate the many issues you are able to pick out of my comments and critique. I will carry them w/ me, mull them over and sincerely consider them all :)
I will share that I still have no idea why you chose to chime in on a question I posed to the vlogger ? Especially since you still haven't lead me to believe you even know what I asked or what my interests were in the first place. At least not by the choice of issues you found to critique in my comments.
But, I'm glad to have been engaged by you, to see and hear your issues and glad for the chance to engage you as well :)
Thank you so much for your input,
Sincerely .............
Steph Boeker - free will to follow or to reject
Quran is a Final words of God. Please do NOT ignore. Our Lord had created this entire Universe and Intelligent Human being. The next question is Why? Get the answer from Quran.
Universe has a creator and he is YAHWEH GOD!
Prove it.
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Pray and see if anything happens.
All at place but... Big bang age, origin of first lige age, Cambrian age and so on... are there any phylosophical arguments or practical evidence to prove these time limits? Don't these ages derive from the same atheistic, lacking of evidence hold of the evolution? Do we have any compelling evidence of the mentioned periods up to the new age?
No. Yes. And no.
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I think Steven is an awesome guy. I really enjoyed signature in the cell, and the design arguments and evidences he develops that are not reasonably refuted. I don't however, agree at all with his constant affirmation of the billions of years old universe and earth assertions. It undermines Genesis and the creation narrative, (I am not a young earth creationist) , and there is some really good science that has been championed by Barry Setterfield call Stochastic Elctodynamics that gives a Newtonian explanation for quantum physics. Which also takes into account that the speed of light is slowing down. Thereby affecting the rate of the atomic clock down through the ages.
Steven believes in Jesus, and therefore he should believe what Jesus said about Moses and the handling down of the creation account from God to Moses.
If God is the informative one of the information in the cell, I think he would correctly tell Moses how long it took him to create the heavens and earth, once the particulates were created.
It's not difficult to deduce that the "cambrian explosion " is a result of the flood.
Speed of light actually varies - and they test it globally and average the "current speed" so they can maintain those GPS satellites. God's emphasis was on spiritual education - he never really inspired people to write us a science manual - I think its more fun to learn on our own - but Satan and his buddies, according the book of Enoch which IS inspired despite what some old romans said about it, Jesus doesn't quote fiction anywhere in the scriptures, I doubt Enoch is "less desirable" to him - Just Catholic Priests and like always - we inherit their bias and mutilated DOCTRINES - literally a combination of Early Christianity and PAgan worship - yet we pass it on and call it scriptural to this day - (sigh) - but according to Enoch - (Only guy in bible Translated from human to spirit without dying first I know of - probably wrote inspired stuff - it fits history) Point is - SATAN and his buddies, often posing as gods, were the one who brought the science books and even eye makeup. Bible describes scientific method - Satan shows you how to get results without God - but by other means. God says nothing against science but he does warn against Satan's deceptions. God promises the seekers: Keep Seeking and you will find the Truth :) Doesn't say when! :) PEACE
777THUTH777 Actually you need proof to uphold your claim. And yes, there is a newtonian explanation for quanta, and it's been proven by SED.
Vertical Petrified Trees, piercing through strata layers, that are supposedly millions of years apart, coupled with sea shells an the like in the Grand Canyon for one, and the fact that dating techiniques, particularly non-carbon 14 are the worst, is a enough to proof to do more global flood investigation. That coupled with the entires world has ancient tales of a global flood, in their traditions, their religions, their lore - it really suggests - "The Great Flood" happened.
Light is indeed a changing - its current procedure to take light speed measurements from various places on the earth and then average them out, and that average "current light speed" is used to adjust the GPS satelites to keep them accurate.
PEACE :)
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If you define God, you can not take it away with just a designer. He is, was and allways will be.
That's namely His Name YHWH I am who I am. Chesed who believe! Your brother in Christ. Dirk
BTW God Is not for sale $ 49. ye're serve the Mammon!!!
Notice that Hoyle prefaces his statement about a super intellect fine tuning the universe by calling that a "common sense" interpretation. But, if quantum physics has taught us anything about fundamental reality it is that it completely defies any "common sense" interpretation. "Common sense" is not a very good guide in science because common sense was evolved to help us understand things on a gross level for survival. Common sense helped our ancestors living in the wild to predict things like where there is likely to be clean water of good food or how a certain predator or prey is likely to act. However to understand things at a deeper level like at the level of chemistry or especially the most fundamental, i.e., the quantum level, common sense is of little value and we need to employ the tools of math and science. Suffice to say the "common sense" interpretation of fine tuning is probably wrong.
Tom Paine, lol you just shot yourself in the foot with that two cent nonsensical statement.
The depth of your ignorance is off the scale.
How do you know what science is telling you if you don't have these tool called common sense, logic, rationality?
"is not a very good guide in science because common sense was evolved to help us understand things on a gross level for survival"
Why don't you explain to us your understanding of science, I have this feeling that you probably believe that science is some kind of magic, right?
Your second big big mistake is when you arrogantly spoke as if you have reached the highest peak of knowledge ignoring that there are past civilisations that would make technological advancements look primitive, but of course I bet you didn't know that did you? I would suggest you do a big research on this topic only then you will realise how primitive is our so called technology.
Very primitive in comparison, we're still burning fuel.
You think advanced technology saw the light in the 20th century? You're dead wrong.
I believe you're slightly confused, you do know that scientific models are various forms of interpreting the available data and that's why you end up with several theories trying (Desperately) to explain certain phenomenons and the highest level of certainty science can ever reach is a theory, and that theories come and go meaning they go through paradigm shifts, they morph, and in some cases they are abandoned altogether.
Scientific discoveries are not written in stones, the scientific knowledge is based mostly on conjecture, assumptions, and a workable probabilistic framework.
Scientific knowledge is a transient one not eternal, except for a directly observed phenomenon that never change, like the heart beats to pump blood, or the rain evaporates and then falls back, these are known as facts of life.
So when you speak about science you first need to know what you're talking about.
Most scientific theories relies on:
Faith
Conjecture / assumption
Some evidence
Interpretation of the available evidence
Debates and discussions.
It will always remain a theory, among several others.
Science can help understand some areas of the physical realm by allowing us to then reasonably conclude where did that physical universe originate from. We need to use inference, science gets off at this terminus bus stop.
I hope this helps, please don't be offended by things I have said.
Regards
For those of you who believe God designed every creature great and small, please explain what God was thinking when he designed mosquitos and the malaria parasite or fleas and the bubonic plague bacteria. Please try thinking this stuff through a bit.
Tom Paine please, not because we don't understand its importance just yet it means it is a valid argument against God, no.
If we're to kill every mosquito in the world, no life will be spared after that, but since you don't know, your ignorance is off the scale.
"If mosquitoes went extinct: Mosquito larvae are very important in aquatic ecology. Many other insects and small fish feed on them and the loss of that food source would cause their numbers to decline as well. "
And I let you work out the chain reaction and you will see for yourself what would happen once the cycle in the ecosystem is broken.
Your next question what are the flies for? Bees, Snakes? Scorpions? Sharks? Crocodiles? Viruses perhaps?
@@alwaysflat7996 I have to give you credit you don't let one statement go without a irrefutable response. I commend you sir.
@@Manuel-ni9ez Thank you, respect
As mr barry points out there are various need of these
things for our eco system mosquitos bee`s as for maleria parasites fleas bubonic plaugue
what would be your impression of why these things exist may i propose
that there could be two of many possibilities as at the present time
nether science can tell us why these things exist only that they do exist.
Perhaps theyre a freak of nature and please note i`m thinking it through and would
value your contribution as much as i make mine known to you.
PERHAPS the reason they exist they exist at all is down to a left over evoluntionary
process or just perhaps in the case of parasites fleas may well become fully understood
in time to also have some value to our eco systems such as perhaps food for other
life forms perhaps who knows perhaps theyre, as weve come to know them as
not good for our species due to a change in their genetic make up aka defect or
mutation perhaps at some time over billions of yrs ago they had a useful an benefitial
purpose on your point of bubonic plague perhaps all of the above may apply on bacteria
well if bacteria didnt exist again perhaps all of the same may apply but thats dependent
upon your view of whats meant by your statement i e are we talking good or bad
presuming were talking of bad and its often a vital part of an argument to clarify the
point your making but if were speaking of bad then again possible its once again
a mutatation or a freak of nature itself of evolutionary processes but as none of this
can be observed nor tested were left with at best haphazard assumptions
the need for bacteria however as im certain many biologists will agree upon is
paramount for living creatures life itself and is it not a theory that life on earth
began from bacteria deposited by meteorites or could it just be that when life
was created it was all good and since the fall of mankind that such things have
came upon us through mutation having lost their original purpose i sincerely
cant say nether can science fully comprehend why the why of it all but
biologists can dependent on scientific research perhaps get some clues
as to what went wrong dependent on their belief system may i ask is your
question supportive of mutation or evolutionary processes do you have
any knowledge of biology which is raised in your question by you are you
a biologist or did you base this argument purely upon bias in ignorence
of biology of the science no offence intended by any means as my belief of
a fallen world may well be concidered as bias in favour of a fallen world
but i have the grace to admit i personally cant speak of the question youve asked
as to the why but my question must be can you do so in complete confidence
of being right and not wrong about the why of it all and taking out the evolutionary
processes does not automaticly refute the other possible possibilities such as
mutation or the fact that we may well discover that all those things may have had
or may have benefit for our health many things which are deemed bad have been
found to have in small quantities benefitial effects in curing or controlling illnesses
so who knows and who can say otherwise like i said i would be interested in your
thoughts .. Kind regards rsvp
Really pay attention to the quotes that Dr. Meyer provides. You see stuff like "the common sense view is" or we "habitually associate x & y" But if indeed we are evolved beings then our 'common sense" did not evolve for figuring out the fundamental truths about existence. It evolved to help us figure out things useful for survival, and that's it. Also, we habitually associate things, yes, but this make us prone to making erroneous inductive inferences. If every swan we see is white, then we might think that every swan in the world is white. But that is not necessarily the case. Yes, in our day to day lives the creation of information is something we associate with conscious agency. However, does that mean that no unconscious process is capable of creating information. No, not at all. It could be an erroneous inductive inference. This gets to another point: human beings have an innate bias to see agent causation where it does not exist. This makes perfect sense evolutionarily as if you hear rustling in the bushes and run away assuming its a tiger, then you are perhaps inconvenienced, but you survive. If you hear rustling and assume it was not caused by an agent such as a tiger but think perhaps it's just the wind or branch falling, but it is a tiger, you're dead. It's this sort of agent causation bias that led the ancients to think that everything in nature was animated by spirits, every phenomenon was caused by spirits or gods or God. This is exactly the bias that the scientific method corrects for by eschewing all supernatural explanations. This is called methodological naturalism, and by sticking to this science has ushered us out of the age of superstition when people thought every disease was the result of God's wrath at sin or by evil spirits, etc., etc.Societies that have adopted the scientific, naturalistic worldview have freed themselves from being stuck with wrong answers provided to us by cognitive biases and erroneous inductive inferences and other such logical fallacies and have reaped huge benefits by doing so. I'm afraid Dr. Meyer wants to take us backwards here.
Something came from nothing. Cruz were biased to believe that's the only way it can be. Ooooook
@@Screwball316 No, in fact, we are biased to believe the opposite of that. We're biased to think that the universe had to come from somewhere. Everybody knows every thing comes from somewhere. The thing is the universe is not just another thing (one part of everything); it's (all of) everything. As such there is no good reason to think it had to come from somewhere. It's "common sense" playing tricks on us. There's even a name for this logical fallacy. It's called a fallacy of composition. This is where you think the whole cannot have a property that does not belong to its parts. For example, you're a primitive person and see an airplane made out of a pieces of metal. You've never seen a piece of metal that can fly, so you don't believe that the airplane can fly.
Listen to this quote now: "The creation of new information is HABITUALLY associated with consciousness." Why? Because that is what we observe in our day to day lives. But we have never observed directly the type of information formation that goes on inside living organisms. As such, we cannot say whether or not that type of information formation requires conscious input. For us to assume that it must because of what we observed with other types of information is to possibly run afoul of the problem of induction. The problem with induction is that it is never certain. For a cliched example, let's say every swan we have ever seen is white. Does that allow us to say with certainty that no black swans exist? No it does not. And the same goes for information formation. Even if all the information formation that we have ever directly witnessed has been due to conscious input, that does not allow us to propose that all information formation is due to conscious input. In fact, I would say that until someone can show what the conscious input into the formation of genetic information is, we can take that as disconfirmation of that particular inductive inference.
No Tom, information evolved! lol If that's what satisfies your washed brain, who am I to say otherwise? Under NO circumstance should common sense be a factor in your judgment.
@@rac717 Actually common sense is pretty unreliable in answering such abstract questions, which is exactly why we developed logic, math and science as tools for correcting for the insufficiencies of common sense.* You are ignoring the problem of induction and concluding that information can only be created by conscious beings because that is what you are familiar with. Also how are you defining information? There are several meaning for the term and I suspect that any logical proof that would purport to show that formation of genetic information requires conscious input would also be an equivocation fallacy.
*Of course there are many situations in which common sense works well and it is wise, or at least expedient to appeal to it rather than logical, let alone scientific analysis. This is not one of those cases, IMO.
Millions of years is unbiblical. 6 days Godmade everything including Man. He rested on the 7th. And one day doesn’t mean something other than one day. He rested on the 7th so this is why the commandment “remember the Sabbath" DAY is given. This Dr has a worldly knowledge but not Godly wisdom. Just read the word!
N/A N/A - one day doesn’t mean 24 earth hours
That is manupilated quote! GOD doesn't get tired He does not need rest.
More and still more religious crap from Stephen Meyer!
Evidence?
Listen to Stephen Meyer and you've got it!!! What is the evidence he provides for a disembodied mind etc?
GeoCoppens - not an argument, just emotional diatribe from you, try again but this time argue the merits