As accurate as is practicable... yes... In the end, the clothing matters nothing, when it's the shooting that is the focus. Clothing is for "atmospherics" only.. :-)
In our service rifle club in Perth WA we did a walk up from 200. Bayonet and helmet. 3 rounds prone at 200, come to the port , advance to 150 2 rounds sitting,reload 5 come to the port advance to 100,two rounds kneeling then advance to fifty and fire 3 rounds rapid standing. Some of the young fellas would then charge and bayonet a sandbag,to much yelling for my liking. But a lot of fun.☺
Sorry, you two are having way too much fun there😁.. I really think you need to complete the trifecta by getting Gun Jesus (aka Ian McColum) to join you! All jokes aside, keep up the great work.
Great video guys ,considering that it was just two of you. Mate experenced key holing at 300 yrs with non military factory rounds fired through a martini Henry 303 from 1910 . Told mk7 projectiles with flat base are more accurate in no1s after the British spending £2000 000 on the development. Haven't come across any stories on this yet. Keep up the great work.
Rob and Mike out on the range. Gee! S-H-O-O-T-I-N-G! As ever, educational, entertaining and informative. It sent me to the cabinet to stare at the silver spoon I won at Bisley more than 45 years ago! Thanks Muzzleblokes! :D
Wow, this is an awesome video, I Would like to run a service match in Australia with our number 1 rifles as we never began production of the number 4 rifle down under, and your videos are so unbelievably helpful. thanks mate this is just brilliant Rob , just brilliant indeed.
Two of my favourite historic firearms/military history channels together. Probably not totally relevant, but in the 1980's British Army (armed with the SLR) we were trained to advance with the rifle in our shoulder if a contact was at all likely.
Glad you enjoyed it! That position certainly becomes more prevalent from the 1950s onward... WTM No 7 is the first instance we have found of it's teaching.
Great work Rob and Mike. Clearly, the British army learned the hard way that, in a lot of cases, targets exposed themselves only very fleetingly and that existing snap shooting doctrine was not up to scratch. The Australian army was to also learn this in jungle warfare, were the ranges were even closer, as little as 5 to 15 yards.
Glad you enjoyed it. Like everything, evolution happens... I suppose that practical experience by the end of the Great War produced some very good snap shooters... at very close ranges... Here, I don't think that the existing snap shooting schemes were deficient, they were good fro what they were... shooting at range... (the rifle Course of 1942+, featured snaps at 200 and 300yds) This practice just reflects a "hole" in the skill set.. snapping at closer (though not necessarily "close quarters") range. Moving into the jungle, troops would have become good at what they needed to be good at, depending on where they were and the circumstances they found themselves in. The same could be said for all Empire troops fighting in the East.
add another twist firecraker to emulate the target shooting back...... " nothing more exhilerating than being shot at without result" Winston Churhill. thanks lads great video.👍
Hi from Pennsylvania buddy Jeff. Awsome video. I absolutely love my 303 British rifle. Now I'm gonna poke some fun. Just think if the British and Canadian were armed with theM1i grand. . I have one . Mine is a Springfield. A 1952 . What a sweet lady she is. The germans would haven't. Made it 2 months.. and I think my 303 is a better rifle than my 1903 rifle. Both are very accurate. You guys are awsome. 😊 God bless😊
I did the Static Mechanical Range at Puckapunyal in the 90s and this walk was remarkably similar to the walking advance we did at the end. Firing the Aussie made, Inch pattern 7.62 SLR bang stick at the almost last gasp of its service career with the Australian Defence Force and the Aussie made Aug Steyer beginning to be seen by Reserve Units. Most of SLRs I handled had 62 or 63 series butt numbers and so were a few years older than me. I liked the SLR, except when marching, and if the infinity scope for the Steyer could have been fitted to the SLR it would have made the rifle even better.
You two are just too enjoyable! This coming from a guy that has shot the same No. 1 Mk III* for over 60 years. Dinna fash, laddies as there is a Faz No. 4 Mk2 here too. If you're close to AZ sometime, stop by, I'll buy the beer & bullets. The tam is just too cool, where can one obtain same? Most heartfelt thanks, Dennis
Glad you enjoyed the video! We certainly had a great time making it. The ToS is from What Price Glory... More kit info in the "Kit" series on the Channel, if you are interested.
Great video just one thing though the position the rifle is being held in some of the practices while on the move I believe is a more modern way of holding the rifle as it was drilled into the men at the time to hold the weapon in a certain way to elevate the weight and strain of carrying the weapon.
As mentioned in the video, the technique was prescribed in late 1944.... men with the training would have probably come into the line sometime in 1945....
Your editing is getting better and better :D I too am a fan of the large aperture, it just seems more comfortable when acquiring a sight picture. In a firefight or a standard engagement with adrenaline pumping and shots going everywhere I would expect the side with the fastest time to acquire a sight picture would come out on top~
Thanks again for the really high caliber (no pun intended) work you put out on a regular basis. You've managed to strike a fantastic blend of detail research, technical discussion and a sense of humor that appeals to the inner 12 year old in all of us. I can't wait to see what's next. As someone else posted below I think it would be interesting to see you do a collaborative with Forgotten Weapons and InRange. Ian and Karl have run SMLEs and seem to have far more problems than you do. I think it would be interesting to see you run one of your rifles in one of their 2 gun matches down in Arizona. I also think it would be interesting them to run some of their stuff up in your part of the world. Cheers!!
That was great guys! I love the content of these collaborations. I'll have to remember the rope for the targets. Put the wives to work so to speak. HAHAHA.
Great clip and subject, even today with modern weapons whether it be an Assault Rifle/Carbine (either 5.56mm or 7.62mm), Semi-Auto SMG (HKMP5), or Pistol it would still be a challenge. Also Mike ("Bloke on the Range") looks better without the beard, it suits you...I also like your continued use of the more realistic way of carrying the rifle whilst on patrol as per WWII photos instead of the Post-War versions, it's far more likely given combat theatres like Italy and the jungles in Burma where you may be trying to move through urban rubble or jungle tall grass/thick scrub, unless you are about to enter a house or similar it's unlikely you'd have your rifle up high into your shoulder as it's too heavy to hold/carry for long periods of time. Lastly I guess it's possible that this Snap shooting technique is connected to the Close-Quarter Combat shooting in your other clip in concept and creation. Kind regards.
BD came in sizes of "too big" and "too small". This one is just right in the sleeves for my long gorilla arms, but is a little loose in my pigeon chest! :D
You must try to come to Australia. Have a look ( Google ) our Lang Lang range, Eagle Park range and Military Rifle Club etc in Victoria. Would make for a very fun and interesting trip for you both. Great video.... 👍🏻
Very interesting. One gets the impression that most military rifle training until the 70s or later was just simple shooting at a round bullseye. According to some second-hand information, the US Army started adopting more realistic training after ww2, but I've not read the actual primary sources. I have read the US training manuals from the late 60s through the 80s, and it is interesting that the manuals are almost word for word the same despite going from a mass army of draftees to a professional 'highly trained' army of volunteers.
Figure targets were the norm for all Empire/Commonwealth musketry in WWI. This changed in the 1920s with the introduction of bullseye (or rather "tin hat") targets... half way through WWII, they went back to figure targets... 50 60s and 70s all saw the use of figure targets with the most common being the Fig 11 from the 1950s (IIRC)..... can't comment on US practices.
@@britishmuzzleloaders Interesting that the Brits 'regressed' between the wars. Also it is just very interesting watching this series of yours just how modern the British training was over 100 years ago. I suppose it helps when you have a small professional army, but the US had a small, professional army during the same period and had far poorer training standards. Heck, even to this day a lot of the US Marines rifle training is based on the assumption that all wars will be fought on the Camp Lejune known-distance range. I just found your channel and you have amazing content. Keep up the good work good sir.
I remember reading a bio of paratrooper general Jim Gavin. In it he describes the 82nd division in training before leaving for overseas. He recounted that the division was visited by 82nd division MOH awardee, Alvin York. In the biopic of York, Gary Cooper portrayed York as a sharpshooting mountaineer from Tennessee. He was. York, however, told them that most of the shooting they did was quick shooting usually from the hip. The 82nd incorporated this advice into their training and became quite proficient at it. The Germans found this out as did the Russians. Yes, the Russians. Gavin said that during the joint occupation of Berlin, Russian troops would often emphasize a point in conversation by pulling out a pistol and firing it into the ground. They learned not to do this around the 82nd's veterans. The vets weren't going to wait and see what the intended target was and they were quick and relatively accurate from the hip with M1 Garands.
Oops,..... someone else say "Mk 4".? It's funny, as I was reading the passage, I was looking at the part that referred to the "Mk 2" backsight.... it stuck in my head just as I went to refer to the rifle.... perfectly timed guffaw.... :-)
Damn! you're so much unthinkable good in those videos, that I had to immediate hit the subcribe button just like I've been shooting with Enfield No.4 But I have to admit that you're carrying Small Pack a little bit too lower that it should be carried. But everything else is fine. Thank you!
britishmuzzleloaders Yes, indeed. And you're the best in what you're doing, and I'm not the only one who thought like that! There's a lot of books about those rifles, but by your vids I can see and get faster understand this particular topic. I've seen a few other passionates, but here I can sit and watch with pleasure because of your's BD P37 and the rest of stuff. P.S. I have original canadian P37 blouse from 1943, to reenact 1st Can Para Bn :D.
@@britishmuzzleloaders comportment and adhering to regulation achieves objectives. Discipline, Sir! I dare say Lindybeige would relish in participating with the historical accounts perhaps enlisting them in the Glorious 78th in all manner of correct missmatch dress. really getting your productions crisp and bristol
Another fantastic, entertaining and informative video Rob. Thanks for the great work that you do with your channel. Can you please solve a dispute for me? A buddy and I have an ongoing argument about where you film your videos - are you on the Island or the Mainland?
Glad you enjoyed it.. I film all over but mostly near a secret country mansion known as....... "The Meadows"..... :-) In al seriousness, I have filmed in many locations in BC (and Alberta of course...)
Thanks for the reply... Interesting, more modern combat drills were practiced running to the next shooting point. Great video, warm wishes from the UK.
In the context of this (historical) practice that would be very difficult and very disrupting... trying to time an exposure to appear at the end of a ten yard dash by hand signal and phone ring to the butts and then have the target appear at the right time would be next to impossible... Now, "run downs" over longer distances were a feature of the pre war Range Courses.. as they are to this day... There, the men double from firing point to firing point (most often 100M or yds) and then engage the targets... You see, there, they stop and engage at a defined point. In this practice the object is to have the engagement done while moving... very different beast to co-ordinate...
@@britishmuzzleloaders I absolutely agree .. Thanks for the context and thanks for taking a the time to reply. Another great video! Would love to run this myself!!
My favorite long neck is the lithgow smle no 1 mark 3* with a 1945 stamp on the butt my brother and i have all the reloading equipment for British 303 the number 4 is just an upgrade to the smle that we didnt get in Australia
Sorry, out of the scope of the Channel... Russian muzzleloaders has a great version though... :) All kidding aside, C&Rsenal has a great episode(s) on it.
I really enjoy these videos, but I gotta ask. Where did you find so many rounds of .303? A box of 20 cartridges goes for almost $70 at some suppliers now. 😳
I have a photo of my father in 1944/45 whilst he was in the Royal Engineers in NW Europe. He is wearing a very similar floppy beret to that worn by the chappy with the glasses.
Here in Switzerland I shall be skiing tomorrow morning in those battledress trousers, a US M51 wool field shirt, and some other layers of wool to be decided based on the temperature :)
Bloke on the Range gotta love wool eh? I've started to not replace any of my fancy polyester stuff, and go back old school. Wool may suck when it's wet because it gets so heavy, but it insulates far far better, and doesn't make you sweat as much as poly does. I just recently learned about lanolin to help protect it, and make it last longer too.
britishmuzzleloaders pffff we just went down to -17 for a high today. It's been super mild after the brutal winter last year. Hardly any snow. Rained for Xmas, but this weekend won't go above like -14 or something. Only gonna be a few days though. Easy winter over all....so far.
That's possibly the greatest opening you've ever done and that's saying something. No baby Jesus nooo.
With a Prvi rimjam too!
Thanks Alistair! We had a good time filming it.
@Anders Kristian Yup, have been watching on flixzone} for years myself :D
One of the things I love about your vids - the sense of humor, and the effort you've taken on being clothing accurate.
As accurate as is practicable... yes... In the end, the clothing matters nothing, when it's the shooting that is the focus. Clothing is for "atmospherics" only.. :-)
1:58 British soldier testing out Mac prototype 1940 colorized
In our service rifle club in Perth WA we did a walk up from 200. Bayonet and helmet. 3 rounds prone at 200, come to the port , advance to 150 2 rounds sitting,reload 5 come to the port advance to 100,two rounds kneeling then advance to fifty and fire 3 rounds rapid standing. Some of the young fellas would then charge and bayonet a sandbag,to much yelling for my liking. But a lot of fun.☺
Sound like a good time! Cheers.
"Like the hand of god" hahaha classic
I may sound like a broken record but this is invaluable work you're doing here lads
Thank you. Happy you got the reference!
@@britishmuzzleloaders And may god strike me down were it to be otherwise!
*cue lightning bolt*
Love it. Again, we appreciate the sterling work!
Sorry, you two are having way too much fun there😁.. I really think you need to complete the trifecta by getting Gun Jesus (aka Ian McColum) to join you!
All jokes aside, keep up the great work.
Thank you! It would be grand to come together like that...
another great video keep up the good work think you guys should have your own tv show 👍🏻
Great video guys ,considering that it was just two of you.
Mate experenced key holing at 300 yrs with non military
factory rounds fired through a martini Henry 303 from 1910 .
Told mk7 projectiles with flat base are more accurate in no1s
after the British spending £2000 000 on the development.
Haven't come across any stories on this yet. Keep up the great work.
Yes, more British muzzleloader on the range. Both of your content are educational and entertaining.
Glad you enjoyed it! Cheers.
Rob and Mike out on the range. Gee!
S-H-O-O-T-I-N-G!
As ever, educational, entertaining and informative. It sent me to the cabinet to stare at the silver spoon I won at Bisley more than 45 years ago! Thanks Muzzleblokes! :D
Glad you enjoyed it John! Thanks.
The two of you are performing a great service to shooters and historians. Keep up the great work!
Very kind. Thank you.
Wow, this is an awesome video, I Would like to run a service match in Australia with our number 1 rifles as we never began production of the number 4 rifle down under, and your videos are so unbelievably helpful. thanks mate this is just brilliant Rob , just brilliant indeed.
Glad you enjoyed it Steven!
Super vidéo, j'adore le lee enfield n4 .Bonjour de france.
Two of my favourite historic firearms/military history channels together. Probably not totally relevant, but in the 1980's British Army (armed with the SLR) we were trained to advance with the rifle in our shoulder if a contact was at all likely.
Glad you enjoyed it! That position certainly becomes more prevalent from the 1950s onward... WTM No 7 is the first instance we have found of it's teaching.
Absolutely great! My two favourite gun-geezers making me laugh!! Cheers lads!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
Great work Rob and Mike. Clearly, the British army learned the hard way that, in a lot of cases, targets exposed themselves only very fleetingly and that existing snap shooting doctrine was not up to scratch. The Australian army was to also learn this in jungle warfare, were the ranges were even closer, as little as 5 to 15 yards.
Glad you enjoyed it. Like everything, evolution happens... I suppose that practical experience by the end of the Great War produced some very good snap shooters... at very close ranges... Here, I don't think that the existing snap shooting schemes were deficient, they were good fro what they were... shooting at range... (the rifle Course of 1942+, featured snaps at 200 and 300yds) This practice just reflects a "hole" in the skill set.. snapping at closer (though not necessarily "close quarters") range. Moving into the jungle, troops would have become good at what they needed to be good at, depending on where they were and the circumstances they found themselves in. The same could be said for all Empire troops fighting in the East.
Thanks once again for referencing the website - it's Vickers MG Collection & Research Association by the way ;o) A bit of a mouthful I suppose.
Most welcome! Whenever I can, I will! Thank you for your work, as well.
I love these videos. You two make a great duo.
Enjoyed every minute of it!
Me too!
I thoroughly love this collaboration you guys were made for each other
That is very kind. One day, we'll have the time of more collabs!
I absolutely love all the collaboration .
Cheers!
10/10 video, the landscape, uniform and information is top content. Will look forward to your new videos.
Thank you!
Can you just make a full firing line of you shooting the No.4 Mk 1 that would be awesome
If it is something that would fit into a video , yes, of course... those composite shots take a ton of work and ammunition...
The dynamic duo! Well done! Now I know where the 50 meter “Fast Freddy” came from in the current course of fire. Fast Freddy is only up for 3 seconds
OK.
"Advanced piece of paper" I laughed way too hard at that!
Cheers!
Wonderful tache , perfect "face furniture" for the period 😀
Haha! Cheers!
im gonna say it. you to have a war time comedy about the brothers, the sargent, and all while being educational and entertaining.
That is SO much composite work.... :-).....
The production quality on these is improving all the time, I'm impressed! Did not peg you for a Mac user ;) Cheers!
Didn't know that had some sort of connotation.....
add another twist firecraker to emulate the target shooting back...... " nothing more exhilerating than being shot at without result" Winston Churhill. thanks lads great video.👍
Sure.. you can come and light it... 🙂 Haha!
l love too lol. 🎆
Bloke. Report to the class room after school and write out 1000 times. "It's a battle sight, not a ghost ring". Great vid!!
Lost my breakfast coffee at 15 mins! Thanks boys...
Glad the comic relief had it's desired effect...
Hi from Pennsylvania buddy Jeff. Awsome video. I absolutely love my 303 British rifle. Now I'm gonna poke some fun. Just think if the British and Canadian were armed with theM1i grand. . I have one . Mine is a Springfield. A 1952 . What a sweet lady she is. The germans would haven't. Made it 2 months.. and I think my 303 is a better rifle than my 1903 rifle. Both are very accurate. You guys are awsome. 😊 God bless😊
Cheers!
I’m jealous of that mustache.
I suspect Mike shaved for this series because he couldn't hope to equal the magnificence that is Rob's facial hair.
I did the Static Mechanical Range at Puckapunyal in the 90s and this walk was remarkably similar to the walking advance we did at the end. Firing the Aussie made, Inch pattern 7.62 SLR bang stick at the almost last gasp of its service career with the Australian Defence Force and the Aussie made Aug Steyer beginning to be seen by Reserve Units. Most of SLRs I handled had 62 or 63 series butt numbers and so were a few years older than me. I liked the SLR, except when marching, and if the infinity scope for the Steyer could have been fitted to the SLR it would have made the rifle even better.
Thanks for sharing!
Excellent collaboration, gentlemen! Thanks for this video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Outstanding quality as always. You put big TV networks to shame.
Cheers. It was the consummate team effort, this.
Fastest like in the West
We try...
I was taught that the "battle sight" that stands up when the "leaf sight" is lowered was for 100 yards or less.
Yes. That is it, although with some awareness, it can be used accurately at farther ranges...
Personally I'd say a Mac is a step backwards from a piece of paper...
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Good stuff
Good work!
Thanks!
Big thumbs up, really interesting
Cheers!
Good shooting!
The Canadian Armed Forces has Personal Weapon Test III where infantry do a run down with snap shoots at the end.
Interesting.
Love the show from N Y USA
Thank you!
Loved the intro xD
I'm loving these videos
I'm learning something new everytime
Great to hear! Cheers.
I love these types of videos
Glad to hear!
@@britishmuzzleloaders Maybe you should do a match comparing some rifles - just an idea if you ever run out of any
Really good video
Thank you!
Great fun, looks fascinating to have a go at, would be interesting to see you do HOME GUARD training comparison
There might be some interesting bits and pieces in there, yes.
Love you guys channel
You two are just too enjoyable! This coming from a guy that has shot the same No. 1 Mk III* for over 60 years. Dinna fash, laddies as there is a Faz No. 4 Mk2 here too. If you're close to AZ sometime, stop by, I'll buy the beer & bullets. The tam is just too cool, where can one obtain same?
Most heartfelt thanks, Dennis
Glad you enjoyed the video! We certainly had a great time making it. The ToS is from What Price Glory... More kit info in the "Kit" series on the Channel, if you are interested.
Great video just one thing though the position the rifle is being held in some of the practices while on the move I believe is a more modern way of holding the rifle as it was drilled into the men at the time to hold the weapon in a certain way to elevate the weight and strain of carrying the weapon.
As mentioned in the video, the technique was prescribed in late 1944.... men with the training would have probably come into the line sometime in 1945....
Your editing is getting better and better :D
I too am a fan of the large aperture, it just seems more comfortable when acquiring a sight picture. In a firefight or a standard engagement with adrenaline pumping and shots going everywhere I would expect the side with the fastest time to acquire a sight picture would come out on top~
I'd say that would depend on much more than just a sight picture... :-) But yes... it does what it says on the tin....
Thanks again for the really high caliber (no pun intended) work you put out on a regular basis. You've managed to strike a fantastic blend of detail research, technical discussion and a sense of humor that appeals to the inner 12 year old in all of us. I can't wait to see what's next.
As someone else posted below I think it would be interesting to see you do a collaborative with Forgotten Weapons and InRange. Ian and Karl have run SMLEs and seem to have far more problems than you do. I think it would be interesting to see you run one of your rifles in one of their 2 gun matches down in Arizona. I also think it would be interesting them to run some of their stuff up in your part of the world.
Cheers!!
Very happy to hear that you enjoy it! Yes, a cool collar with them would be good. They both have incredible schedules though.... Thank you.
@@britishmuzzleloaders Thanks for the reply!!
I have a good feeling that you two should make a video with slow mo guys. I don't know why but I just think the banter would be great.
That would be fun, yes,....
That was great guys! I love the content of these collaborations. I'll have to remember the rope for the targets. Put the wives to work so to speak. HAHAHA.
Great clip and subject, even today with modern weapons whether it be an Assault Rifle/Carbine (either 5.56mm or 7.62mm), Semi-Auto SMG (HKMP5), or Pistol it would still be a challenge. Also Mike ("Bloke on the Range") looks better without the beard, it suits you...I also like your continued use of the more realistic way of carrying the rifle whilst on patrol as per WWII photos instead of the Post-War versions, it's far more likely given combat theatres like Italy and the jungles in Burma where you may be trying to move through urban rubble or jungle tall grass/thick scrub, unless you are about to enter a house or similar it's unlikely you'd have your rifle up high into your shoulder as it's too heavy to hold/carry for long periods of time. Lastly I guess it's possible that this Snap shooting technique is connected to the Close-Quarter Combat shooting in your other clip in concept and creation. Kind regards.
All great observations! Thanks for sharing.
Splendid work Rob and Bloke. From the BD fit I see that the Bloke is not friends with the CQMS. Also he is sponsored by 'Fox's Glacier Mints'.
BD came in sizes of "too big" and "too small". This one is just right in the sleeves for my long gorilla arms, but is a little loose in my pigeon chest! :D
@@BlokeontheRange You would be happy with that were you promoted. Space to store your field glasses and map under the BD blouse.
Thanks John. We had a great time working on the projects...
You must try to come to Australia. Have a look ( Google ) our Lang Lang range, Eagle Park range and Military Rifle Club etc in Victoria. Would make for a very fun and interesting trip for you both. Great video.... 👍🏻
I'll get there one day... :-)
Based on this video, I am now completely convinced that Baby Jesus is a menace and should be stopped at all costs.
Just spread the word about proper terminology and all will be OK... :-)
I was convinced of that already after Mr. Plinkett got obsessed about his portrait of sweet Baby Jesus.
...will the new Laurel and Hardy please step forward.
Haha!
Very interesting. One gets the impression that most military rifle training until the 70s or later was just simple shooting at a round bullseye. According to some second-hand information, the US Army started adopting more realistic training after ww2, but I've not read the actual primary sources. I have read the US training manuals from the late 60s through the 80s, and it is interesting that the manuals are almost word for word the same despite going from a mass army of draftees to a professional 'highly trained' army of volunteers.
Figure targets were the norm for all Empire/Commonwealth musketry in WWI. This changed in the 1920s with the introduction of bullseye (or rather "tin hat") targets... half way through WWII, they went back to figure targets... 50 60s and 70s all saw the use of figure targets with the most common being the Fig 11 from the 1950s (IIRC)..... can't comment on US practices.
@@britishmuzzleloaders Interesting that the Brits 'regressed' between the wars. Also it is just very interesting watching this series of yours just how modern the British training was over 100 years ago. I suppose it helps when you have a small professional army, but the US had a small, professional army during the same period and had far poorer training standards. Heck, even to this day a lot of the US Marines rifle training is based on the assumption that all wars will be fought on the Camp Lejune known-distance range.
I just found your channel and you have amazing content. Keep up the good work good sir.
@@ourvaluesarewhoweareinadem4093 Thank you!
which one is the puller and which is the shooter? not that there is anything wrong with either
Alternating..... I know, it's complicated...
Where can I get this advanced piece of paper?
Mac Store...
Don't do it! It is a trap!
I remember reading a bio of paratrooper general Jim Gavin. In it he describes the 82nd division in training before leaving for overseas. He recounted that the division was visited by 82nd division MOH awardee, Alvin York. In the biopic of York, Gary Cooper portrayed York as a sharpshooting mountaineer from Tennessee. He was. York, however, told them that most of the shooting they did was quick shooting usually from the hip. The 82nd incorporated this advice into their training and became quite proficient at it. The Germans found this out as did the Russians. Yes, the Russians. Gavin said that during the joint occupation of Berlin, Russian troops would often emphasize a point in conversation by pulling out a pistol and firing it into the ground. They learned not to do this around the 82nd's veterans. The vets weren't going to wait and see what the intended target was and they were quick and relatively accurate from the hip with M1 Garands.
Damn it, time to make a sporterised tactical Snider-Enfield. Jesus told me.
Oops,..... someone else say "Mk 4".? It's funny, as I was reading the passage, I was looking at the part that referred to the "Mk 2" backsight.... it stuck in my head just as I went to refer to the rifle.... perfectly timed guffaw.... :-)
What a weapon, fired it in the eighties on a sniper range
Nice!
That’s a remarkably modern range practice, it is essentially a simplified version of the current NZ Army annual weapon qualification.
Certainly, to a point. This the first instance of a 100 yd "walk-down" we have been able to uncover so far...
Rob's clone army strikes again.
They're everywhere....
Jolly good show. You might investigate servo technology to move those targets. Its easy peasy.
The nearest electrical outlet was probably 25 km away ;)
Rob's brother is a terminator...(from the second movie)....plug it into the battery :) @@BlokeontheRange
Glad you enjoyed it! We used that technology,... it's called an "Armstrong Servo"...
great vid. just subbed.
You guys are lucky the Lee Enfield no4 mk1/2 is my dream gun
They are out there...
Damn! you're so much unthinkable good in those videos, that I had to immediate hit the subcribe button just like I've been shooting with Enfield No.4 But I have to admit that you're carrying Small Pack a little bit too lower that it should be carried. But everything else is fine. Thank you!
Thank you! Things may not be "just so" here, but remember, the video is about shooting.... not about kit.
britishmuzzleloaders Yes, indeed. And you're the best in what you're doing, and I'm not the only one who thought like that! There's a lot of books about those rifles, but by your vids I can see and get faster understand this particular topic. I've seen a few other passionates, but here I can sit and watch with pleasure because of your's BD P37 and the rest of stuff.
P.S. I have original canadian P37 blouse from 1943, to reenact 1st Can Para Bn :D.
I'd very much like to see these exercises performed with the team from inrangetv
over a few days with some assault applications
A matter of logistics and time...
@@britishmuzzleloaders comportment and adhering to regulation achieves objectives.
Discipline, Sir!
I dare say Lindybeige would relish in participating with the historical accounts
perhaps enlisting them in the Glorious 78th in all manner of correct missmatch dress.
really getting your productions crisp and bristol
@@michelguevara151 Cheers!
I love the hat
Cheers!
Epic intro, more ASS and advanced paper. So what is this video about? Hehehe...
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@britishmuzzleloaders Will be a shame to see the Bloke go but it's ok. You always do an amazing job on your own. ;)
Another fantastic, entertaining and informative video Rob. Thanks for the great work that you do with your channel. Can you please solve a dispute for me? A buddy and I have an ongoing argument about where you film your videos - are you on the Island or the Mainland?
Glad you enjoyed it.. I film all over but mostly near a secret country mansion known as....... "The Meadows"..... :-) In al seriousness, I have filmed in many locations in BC (and Alberta of course...)
Wait until he discovers there is an entire section of brothers
Perhaps the advances to shooting points should be done on the double?
Nope. Advances to contact were always at the walk until coming under effective enemy fire.
Thanks for the reply... Interesting, more modern combat drills were practiced running to the next shooting point. Great video, warm wishes from the UK.
In the context of this (historical) practice that would be very difficult and very disrupting... trying to time an exposure to appear at the end of a ten yard dash by hand signal and phone ring to the butts and then have the target appear at the right time would be next to impossible... Now, "run downs" over longer distances were a feature of the pre war Range Courses.. as they are to this day... There, the men double from firing point to firing point (most often 100M or yds) and then engage the targets... You see, there, they stop and engage at a defined point. In this practice the object is to have the engagement done while moving... very different beast to co-ordinate...
@@britishmuzzleloaders I absolutely agree .. Thanks for the context and thanks for taking a the time to reply. Another great video! Would love to run this myself!!
My favorite long neck is the lithgow smle no 1 mark 3* with a 1945 stamp on the butt my brother and i have all the reloading equipment for British 303 the number 4 is just an upgrade to the smle that we didnt get in Australia
The No 4, is an "upgrade", yes.... but not a modification.... it's a whole new rifle...
I know this is called British Muzzle loaders but Id appreciate it greatly if you did a Vid on the Mosin Nagant 1891
Sorry, out of the scope of the Channel... Russian muzzleloaders has a great version though... :) All kidding aside, C&Rsenal has a great episode(s) on it.
@@britishmuzzleloaders well thank you anyway Your videos are great
I wonder if there was a channel called American Muzzleloaders. What rifle would I use. I for American musketry I would use a M1 Garand
Sure thing.
@@britishmuzzleloaders I mean imagine hearing that ping go off though accept I be in a US GI uniform for 101 airborne
@@ReconstructedYankee1882 Imagine hearing a ping?..... I am not sure of what you are speaking... the ping is a non issue...
@@britishmuzzleloaders I know it's not an issue what I am saying that the ping is a sweet sound after all 8 rounds are spent
I really enjoy these videos, but I gotta ask. Where did you find so many rounds of .303? A box of 20 cartridges goes for almost $70 at some suppliers now. 😳
There were my hand loads...
Ross twins are at it again 😂
Yes they are... :-)
Great video and shooting! Was rifles safety on or off while walking?
Off, as they would be historically.
And the Oscar goes to....
It's a tie...
Top dollar, pukka, mint, the dog's bollocks, the mutt's nuts. What can I say? Thank you. Donation on it's way.
Very informative, who new you had a twin?
@@britishmuzzleloadersThere should not be any shame associated with someone plugging their own channel in the comments to one of his videos.
top intro.
Cheers.
My god I thought our Caubeen's were large, you must have seriously got some oversized berets.
Mike's is a "Cap, GS".... or "Cap, Ridiculous" as it was otherwise known...
I have a photo of my father in 1944/45 whilst he was in the Royal Engineers in NW Europe.
He is wearing a very similar floppy beret to that worn by the chappy with the glasses.
For king and country
But mostly for the guy next to you...
Are either of you two familiar with lindybeige? He has hundreds of vids covering a wide range of military topics.
He's been on my channel ;)
He did a voiceover mimicking Churchill on the Martini/Metford Firepower vid on this Channel...
Oh, I really will have to look up that vid and check it out.
I couldn't focus on what you where talking about, i just spent the whole vid admiring your uniforms.
At least you can watch it a second time! :-)
5:39 that hurt me deaply
Oh well... Something of yours get sporterised?
@@britishmuzzleloaders no but I've had some nightmares
When was this filmed (what time of year?) Trying to get a handle on how long it takes the Nighthawks to migrate.
Summer.
Hey from the east coast! How's the BC winter treating you? Bet you wish you had those wool tunics now that it's January!
It's OK so far. Leather-jerkin-and-scarf-type weather out there...
Here in Switzerland I shall be skiing tomorrow morning in those battledress trousers, a US M51 wool field shirt, and some other layers of wool to be decided based on the temperature :)
Bloke on the Range gotta love wool eh? I've started to not replace any of my fancy polyester stuff, and go back old school. Wool may suck when it's wet because it gets so heavy, but it insulates far far better, and doesn't make you sweat as much as poly does.
I just recently learned about lanolin to help protect it, and make it last longer too.
britishmuzzleloaders pffff we just went down to -17 for a high today. It's been super mild after the brutal winter last year. Hardly any snow. Rained for Xmas, but this weekend won't go above like -14 or something. Only gonna be a few days though. Easy winter over all....so far.
So how do you use the numbers on the Leaf sight?
Set the sight to the range and shoot?
Was this type of shooting usefull? I can see commandos and paratroopers of the British and Canadian army using this shooting technique
This is bog standard stuff..
@@britishmuzzleloadersreply regular stuff for all? Cool good to know
Mikes hat needs more yeast, and ten more minutes in the oven to make it rise.
"Cap, Soufle"
Did Canadian troops use blanco on their web gear in wwii?
Yes, they did,... that said, field conditions would lead to it rubbing off....
Haha no longer army of one but two .
Haha that’s it I no longer own a laptop, I’ve just got an advanced piece of paper
Indeed!
I don't know where I got the idea that you lived in Australia.
if he were anymore canadian he would have maple syrup fouling the action dripping off his mustache
Nor do I.....:-)