Dolphy grew up not too far from DTLA in Los Angeles and Mingus grew up in the Watts section of Los Angeles in what taxi cab dispatchers would call the Deep South. I grew up in was is geographically South Central Los Angeles. Both Mingus and Dolphy were true originals. I love this album
0:00 A.T.F.W. [Art Tatum-Fats Waller] + 4:52 Parkeriana + 26:16 So Long Eric + 48:37 Orange Was The Color Of Her Dress + 1:02:31 Sophisticated Lady + 1:08:31 Meditations On Integration + 1:31:39 Fables Of Faubus
My Guru! As a bassist, composer, but mainly as director of small ensembles! When he came to Portugal to Cascais Jazz, the then director of the festival Luís Vilas Boas and seeing that Mingus was full of hunger, sent him in a taxi to a friend's restaurant. After an hour, he received an hour, called from the restaurant - O Vilas, this four dishes for him to choose, ate alone the four doses and is asking what is dessert ...
this whole concert is one of his (and Dolphy's) best... this group and this tournée were probably the peak of MIngus' carreer and a strong part of that success was due to Dolphy's presence (and obviously to Mingus direction/conduction and ability in picking up such a differentiated but organic line-up)
he also had a lot of volume - remember that musicians of that era were used to play unplugged so they developed a different balance between instruments and different volume. I am used to play unplugged and there are double bass player (not necessarily very good ones) that can be heard in a rhythm section all the same (unless the drummer is really loud...)
it must also be said that they played in a complete different way - I bet that Danny Richmond didn't play as loud as a modern player used to play in amplified contextes...
As for "treatment" Mingus spoke about how criminally insulted and mistreated Eric Dolphy was by some hoteliers on tours. Not realizing who they were dealing with was a reflection on them, and not the magnanimous Mr. Dolphy.
Mingus' political and social contextual isms were comprehensive and variegated. His mastery of racist antebellum musical directives are parodied, and ridiculously deconstructed so as to reinforce his politics as oculi into the universal madness that we Earthlings are dealing with to this very day Salut Sir!
mmm if you listen to 1959 1960 you can see a great difference in what Ornette was doing compared to the other you mentioned. anyway the "new Thing" was a movement that had several and different origins (never forget Cecil Taylor)
@@emilianoturazzi Believe me i'm never forget Cecil Taylor (you must know but in a Tony Williams album they made a duo : Morgan notion - is thé title (i just answer that : in thé Naked City "Radio" LP John Zorn writting inside the cover alls his influences and Charles Mingus is the first name ; now may-be you're right anyway you have a good taste
Мне очень нравится коллектив этого ансамбля. Главная изюминка- Eric dolfi. Как раз за месяц до смерти этот великий музыкант достиг пика. Впрочем, надо отдать должное и остальным. Все играют прекрасно!
I always thought Dolphy played best when he was with Mingus, on his own, I always felt like his pieces lacked formal flow, but with Mingus there's control to his improvisations, sometimes when you go too avant garde you lose the audience.
you come here and say that they play the same thing over and over and you expect people to take your reaction/opinion in consideration? this aint how it works chief
I appears from your comments below that you are either neuro divergent, or possibly just think you are smarter than everyone else. Either way , at this point in your life you shouldn't be surprised when you rub people the wrong way with off hand dismissive remarks. How about some links to your sax flute basclar recordings for starters. Also as someone well versed in jazz from the 1920s-1970s I can assure you there is a lot more going on here than " playing the same thing over and over"
Music is repetitve and it becomes very apparent when you listen to something you don't enjoy. I can say the same thing about blues or country or rap. Sounds all the same to me.
I bet you repeat words every day of your life. Jazz music is exactly like a conversation. You don't invent new words every time. You use them in a different context.
Dolphy grew up not too far from DTLA in Los Angeles and Mingus grew up in the Watts section of Los Angeles in what taxi cab dispatchers would call the Deep South. I grew up in was is geographically South Central Los Angeles. Both Mingus and Dolphy were true originals. I love this album
Mingus' best group? Maybe. Eric Dolphy was so far ahead of the game that he scared the jazz community at first.
This is sublime.
Dolphy!!!
This is probably the best group Mingus ever had. I have this concert on vinyl and darned near wore it out.
This probably the best group anyone had ever!
I didn’t like Jaki at first but I appreciate him now. He is a true original.
0:00 A.T.F.W. [Art Tatum-Fats Waller] + 4:52 Parkeriana + 26:16 So Long Eric + 48:37 Orange Was The Color Of Her Dress + 1:02:31 Sophisticated Lady + 1:08:31 Meditations On Integration + 1:31:39 Fables Of Faubus
thanx
My Guru! As a bassist, composer, but mainly as director of small ensembles! When he came to Portugal to Cascais Jazz, the then director of the festival Luís Vilas Boas and seeing that Mingus was full of hunger, sent him in a taxi to a friend's restaurant. After an hour, he received an hour, called from the restaurant - O Vilas, this four dishes for him to choose, ate alone the four doses and is asking what is dessert ...
The last 20 minutes of this album is not only some of Mingus' best but some of the best intense but harmonic jazz ever played.
this whole concert is one of his (and Dolphy's) best... this group and this tournée were probably the peak of MIngus' carreer and a strong part of that success was due to Dolphy's presence (and obviously to Mingus direction/conduction and ability in picking up such a differentiated but organic line-up)
Good, bettet,best .
Sorry it's better, best like D.
I put a thumbs up before listening ! 😂🤣
That Band is a Legend !!
Jake was superb...what a tribute...Original
Amazing. Speechlessly beautiful.
Eric il Magnifico, troppa differenza con gli altri seppur bravissimi.
What a group. And Johnny Coles, nice.
I really love his playing, too
I always find surprising that an odious creature like Orval Faubus was represented by such a beautiful music!
Odious creature?
Whew! Jaki Byard.
YA, RIGHT?
Jaki Board is absolutely one of the greatest pianist to ever tickle the ivories🎹!!!! I love his feel for the instrument 🌟🥂
DOLPHY: the PEERLESS ICONOCLAST rode again!
One of the very rare concerts of the era with the bass miked loud enough to hear. Mingus demanding "star treatment" I suppose.
he also had a lot of volume - remember that musicians of that era were used to play unplugged so they developed a different balance between instruments and different volume. I am used to play unplugged and there are double bass player (not necessarily very good ones) that can be heard in a rhythm section all the same (unless the drummer is really loud...)
Mingus has always had a big sound
it must also be said that they played in a complete different way - I bet that Danny Richmond didn't play as loud as a modern player used to play in amplified contextes...
As for "treatment" Mingus spoke about how criminally insulted and mistreated Eric Dolphy was by some hoteliers on tours. Not realizing who they were dealing with was a reflection on them, and not the magnanimous Mr. Dolphy.
@@rodneygolden2796 and what had they to say to Eric Dolphy?
Beautiful😀🎶Mingus/Dolphy two Genius in action
Mingus' political and social contextual isms were comprehensive and variegated. His mastery of racist antebellum musical directives are parodied, and ridiculously deconstructed so as to reinforce his politics as oculi into the universal madness that we Earthlings are dealing with to this very day Salut Sir!
😂. Mama's little baby don't love no shortenin bread.😅
@@willhemmings7284better get hit
Wha’ Rodney sed.
This band is where 'jazz' goes to listen to jazz
great album ! wish I was there...
Est-ce vraiment Ornette Coleman qui est à l'origine de la "New Thing"? Je doute ; lorsque j'écoute du Mingus / Dolphy ou du Coltrane
mmm if you listen to 1959 1960 you can see a great difference in what Ornette was doing compared to the other you mentioned. anyway the "new Thing" was a movement that had several and different origins (never forget Cecil Taylor)
@@emilianoturazzi Believe me i'm never forget Cecil Taylor (you must know but in a Tony Williams album they made a duo : Morgan notion - is thé title (i just answer that : in thé Naked City "Radio" LP John Zorn writting inside the cover alls his influences and Charles Mingus is the first name ; now may-be you're right anyway you have a good taste
@@pierrepicot3706 I know that duo :)
Мне очень нравится коллектив этого ансамбля. Главная изюминка- Eric dolfi. Как раз за месяц до смерти этот великий музыкант достиг пика. Впрочем, надо отдать должное и остальным. Все играют прекрасно!
Nothing special here - just one of the greatest geniuses in music ever with a hell of a band ...
TY!
Amazing!!! Thank you so much!!!
Sound is great!!!
Bellissimo con giganti del jazz.!!!!!
Muchas Gracias.
I wish their was a video of this
Exists footage of the same band and year in Belgium, Norway and Sweden, jus search "Mingus live"
Superb...
I always thought Dolphy played best when he was with Mingus, on his own, I always felt like his pieces lacked formal flow, but with Mingus there's control to his improvisations, sometimes when you go too avant garde you lose the audience.
I love pure Dolphy but I can see how it can get heavy; all in due time.
love it
Does anyone know the actual date and venue this treasure is from?
Concertgebouw in Amsterdam, April 10 1964
😀💚🌱🌸
At 1:37:00 Beginnings of Motorik?
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I m sax flute basclar. Player so..
Why exclude my reactions?
Wow this makes me want to play the upright bass
you come here and say that they play the same thing over and over and you expect people to take your reaction/opinion in consideration? this aint how it works chief
I appears from your comments below that you are either neuro divergent, or possibly just think you are smarter than everyone else. Either way , at this point in your life you shouldn't be surprised when you rub people the wrong way with off hand dismissive remarks. How about some links to your sax flute basclar recordings for starters. Also as someone well versed in jazz from the 1920s-1970s I can assure you there is a lot more going on here than " playing the same thing over and over"
fresher different sequences NEW JAZZ ???
New repertoir please suggestions welcome.
play uncle meat
omg please turn it off
They all play the same over and over
It's like if you don't understand Japanese, you think it's "the same over and over"
I speak 11 languages incl. the 1 of Music, but no Japanese yet..
Music is repetitve and it becomes very apparent when you listen to something you don't enjoy. I can say the same thing about blues or country or rap. Sounds all the same to me.
I bet you repeat words every day of your life.
Jazz music is exactly like a conversation. You don't invent new words every time. You use them in a different context.
But even that said your comment is not accurate.
Every performance is different. If you listen closely enough you can hear that