Here's the problem though, there is a much cooler, and more realistic depicton of a Megacorp and a City made by a Corporation, because it was actually real: The East India Trading Company. A British Corporation that basically had no oversight from the Crown, and basically had free control of India for *30 Years.* They had their own industry (obviously) Colonies, Mercenaries and Armies made up of Brits and local Indians. Eventually mass-rebellions caused the Crown to take notice of their failures, causing them to be liquidated and assets put under direct control. If you want to make a realistic Megacorp, just follow the East India Trading Company: Under a National State, but given no oversight, able to treat people as they see fit, rebellion causes their subsidiary Nation to liquidate them.
@@jakespacepiratee3740 Oh the crown had oversight, of the profits and the orientalism as well as the child sex slaves coming in from India to UK, mostly to the houses of the wealthy and the nobles. They were mostly disturbed when the whole thing became a global fiasco.
3:42 "This included consumer batteries, residential and commercial construction, anthropomorphic car racing, and every other industry.." One of these things is not like the others.
@@Dark_JaguarThere is a theory that all of Pixar movies are connected, a Pixar theory of you will. For example Monsters University and Monsters Incorporated take place on Earth a few hundred years after the events of Wall-e. The idea is that after humans returned the Earth was still poisoned to some degree and humans mutated into monsters. The monsters using the doors to get to childrens' bedrooms don't go to an alternative dimension, instead they travel back in time to the late 20th century when humans still lived on Earth. Also this theory talks about Cars in a similar way that you did. One version postulates that they became sentient because of magic of human attachment and emotions just like the toys in Toy Story. Another says they are autonomic cars which were vehicles for humans but now live on their own and yet another claims that they are somehow living organisms.
Problem with the word "utopia" is that it could also be someone else's "dystopia". The terms are so subjective that they can fit anybody's outlook on something.
Every utopia is a dystopia at its inception and vice versa. As in, if a society is aimed to function according to certain principles and ideas, there’s always going to be someone disagreeing with these principles. However, if you destroy those who disagree and erase the memory of them, eventually there will be no one disagreeing with the principles upon which the utopia is based, thus making its existence indisputable
Imagine an alien civilization encountering one of those ships. Whether they conquer, eradicate, or befriend us, what a strange situation to come across.
It would be basically an example of what not to become. The absolute height of decadence, rendering an entire species incapable of the most basic functions. I imagine they would probably ask what happened to us.
@@Mediados Its what I imagine fallen empires are like in stellaris. Having already conquered the galaxy thousands of years ago, what is the point? With advanced technology far and beyond everyone else, might as well kick back
@@isengrom6883 What is interesting is that this traces back to one of the most common philosophical questions. What is the purpose of life? What is our purpose in the universe? When your only goal is to cut out a comfortable lifestyle for yourself then congratulations, you lost your meaning as soon as you reached that step. Your existance has become useless. No matter what we do, if we don't answer that question for ourselves we will at some point face it the hard way.
How do we know this isn't just a natural consequence of societal evolution, common to technologically advancing societies across space and time? You've got the Stone Age, the Feudal Age, the Industrial Age, the Self-Perpetuating-Post-Scarcity-Rampant-Consumption Age. It could also be a Fermi Paradox answer: many alien societies just abandon their ambition and poisoned homeworlds to live on pleasure arks operated by the remnants of consolidated megacorps, stagnating until they lose the spark of sapience.
@@Mediados I think you answered your own question. The purpose of life is to find your purpose. Once you have it you've got 2 choices 1) become what we see in this movie either through success or failure 2) find a new purpose and start over. I think question "The dog just caught the bumper of a speeding car now what doses he do?" The dog achieved his goal but it's too big and fast to control or do anything with it.
Well, they used the same systems that were supposed to clean up Earth, like the oversized Wall-Es, named Wall-As there. And all new ressources they needed was taken from asteroids and comets, and any waste just jettisoned into space. So the same they did on Earth, leaving behind a comet trail of garbage behind every ship so to speak. The reason why it failed on Earth was the damage there was too concentrated, namely the Earth. While each starliner was out on its own, making use of whatever space ressource it could find.
I love that the Buy N Large corp got the same treatment, with the same serious tone, that the institute gives to topics like the imperium of man and starfleet
But also make everyone obese? In reality, these passengers would have short lifespans and unable to reproduce due to their massive fat bodies. But again, its a Pixar movie so they decided to omit that.
nah more like slaves. humans in this story really became slaves to not just the shi but their own consumption. when you have a UBI, what you're really doing forming a bondage between those who control UBI and those dependent on UBI. they're far from ethical.
It was hardly an economic analysis. It was telling a fictional scenario brought about by multiple wild and highly unlikely scenarios that humans had to intentionally do in order to create BNL and the state of the earth. It took humanity over a century of burning coal to realize the atmosphere was getting more CO2. The only way that level of trash could pile up is if humans all started throwing their trash on the street and their own homes and refusing to find a trash can and the entire garbage disposal industry had to go bankrupt and nobody, not even BNL replaced it.
Actually many movies of Pixar have a lot in interesting thing to analyze (Soul, Inside Out, Monsters Inc). And the evolution of Buy N Large during the movies (from The Incredibles to Cars/Wall-E) is always present
The only way to top it is an analysis of Gru’s corporation in Despicable Me, considering he could afford to build a Moon rocket. Or an analysis of Doofenshmirtz Evil Inc.
What is probably the greatest case of irony in art history, BnL wasn't made as a satire on consumptionism. Wall-E creators wanted to tell a love story about robots and the entire 'Earth is polluted by a megacorp' thing was only made up to justify why two robots would fall in love. And yet it is better pro-environmental anti-corporate aesop that most of intentionally pro-environmental anti-corporate aesops.
And what is also surprising is that it isn't really as much of an anti-corporate message as much of an anti-consumerist one/anti-mega corporate one. The movie attacks the relentless human consumption and consequent devolution as both the cause and result of the BnL system and consequent ecological collapse.
@@mmcb2910 It's not necessarily the system that is bad; what is bad is how people used and abused the system. If it were for the system of BNL, we wouldn't have these two robot lovers who then went on a little adventure that saved humanity from its decadence.
What's interesting is the fact that Axiom wasn't the only ship of its class. There are probably many starliners out there that refused to return, continuing the robotic hegemony
@@jon-unicorn-doxxer they wouldnt because all ship autopilots are still under directive a113 and would simply refuse the order. the only reason why the axiom was specifically able to achieve what it did was because wall e had arrived and effectively disrupted their entire system. if wall e never came to the axiom, auto wouldve just thrown the plant out at the very beginning.
I wish there was more lore in the WALL-E universe about the other star liners. The Axiom was the largest of these star liners, but it’s never known what happened to all the others. Maybe some were lost in space. Maybe some went on to colonize other worlds. Maybe some are still out there resuming their leisurely existence.
I think the Axiom's captain had eventually sent out a message to the other ships to show that earth was being restored and had told the other captains to disable the robotic autopilots and return to earth and help with restoration.
@@EnclaveSOC-102 If each Autopilot tries to keep Directive A-113 the you could have a combination of starliners returning to Earth and others suppressing the information. Maybe in a few hundred years humanity roam the stars trying to contact these lost ships.
Other fictional megacorps: We keep our workforce in a state of extreme poverty, so our shareholders can live in unimaginable luxury. BnL: Unimaginable luxury for everyone!
Which probably makes BnL probably the single smartest Megacorp in all of fiction. They don't mistreat their consumers/employees, they aren't in a self destructive power struggle with itself and they aren't conducting horrendously amoral research or screwing around with insanely dangerous alien life forms, that are guaranteed to destroy them and every single consumer they have.
@@weldonwin Well actually its pretty unrealistic for a Corporation to provide post-scarcedy under any circumstances. If everyone's needs are met, nobody will buy things that are supposed to satisfy those needs. This is why modern Washign Machines or Dish Washers have INTENTIONALLY PLACED defects, so they always have a chance of randomly breaking down, causing another one to be bought - more money. Perpetually. The Post-scarcedy situation was probably only ever envisioned as a strictly temporary solution, but BNL didnt have enough money after building the Luxury Fleets to complete operation cleanup, and so, Humanity was ultimately regressed into a debased form of hedonism. Capitalism made it happen, but their ultimate society was basically post-scarcedy Socialism.
@@History_PodcastFinalAssignment I'm not quite sure to follow you. Automation and good living of standards aren't at odds with programmed obsolence. And why is it unrealistic for a global megacorporation to provide post-scarcity? When there is no other companies, and when no one can actually work because everything is automated, how are you going to make profit without providing money to people? A corporation needs to sell goods and/or services to make profits!
Nodding my head at the pretty standard but good critique of capitalism and the nature of corporations and monopolies, and then the line about a men's fashion company being the natural rival of a frozen yoghurt company hit me like a sack of bricks. The delivery was too perfect!
Even after all these years this fact remains. Companies and people only think of themselves and not on a grander scale, always expecting their revenue to grow and grow. But at some point profit must stagnate because there won't be any more money to earn, which would effectively make the concept of money useless.
@@cmdraftbrn As of now it serves as a means of assigning value to items, so it has a purpose. But when one group literally has all the money in the world, you've destroyed the concept of money because there is no one left to trade it with.
@@isaaclai1636 I mean I don't want capitalism in general to disappear, it seems to function well. But you can't leave it unrestricted or it feeds human greed like a tumor.
Something I found interesting from the movie is in the background when wall-e is following Eve. When they’re in the superstore, there’s an old banner that says “evacuation sale”. Even in the last moments on Earth, with the waste piling up everywhere around them, directly caused by their practices, BNL couldn’t help but scrape out every last penny. And people were so enveloped in consumerism and materialism that even as they were about to leave the mess caused by their desire to have, they still bought.
It's so earie, how it echoes the final days before Slaanesh was born Except instead of mass lust it's mass gluttony. Somehow, equally horrifying but still suitable for all audiences.
I'm also a fan of Warhammer 40,000 and it's all really similar to the fall of the Eldar 2.0, only instead of the Gods of Chaos, we got like "machine control". True, here machines control people and people control machines.
"And thus, the chaos god of laziness and gluttony was borne. But it was okay, because it was too lazy to cause trouble and just endlessly turned the nearby waste in the immaterium back into food with its powers so it could eat it again."
This would make a fun Stellaris origin, you start with a series of colony ships with poor resource producing pops but high tech and utopian infrastructure.
I love the end credits of the film, illustrated in the style of cave paintings including likenesses of The Saviours - WALL-E and EVE - resting below one of the new trees.
Its all heartwarming until you realize the clearly Sentient Robots were never emancipated and were basically forced to repair the World Humanity ruined. And they do have enough self-awareness to dislike tasks. There was a storyboarded scene where a Massage Robot dislikes his task of grooming his owners ass. Yes im serious.
@@markricheard1870 Wall E literally refuse to take a cup from a guy to the point he falls from his chair and his love for eve, that's enough proof that robots fo have feelings in the flim.
@@I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad but not all robots have self-awareness. The rest of Wall-Es died because they don’t have the idea to repair themselves to survive, and Eve at the beginning was only doing its job.
That's when you realize that Pixar's lore is so complex, that a multi-dimensional Institute needs to stop everything it was doing to analyze it more closely and then make a video explaining it to us. Nice video guys, pls, continue with your awesome work😁
Brilliant. Leave it to the Templin Institute to lay out the real creeping horror behind WALL-E which is in itself one of Pixar's best films. Great job Templin Institute!
Interestingly enough, the level of technology portrayed in WALL-E would be one of the highest ranked of many sci-fi franchises. If they turned that to military applications the Buy&Large universe would be hard to beat.
@@mikemagnus9447 The amount of power and autonomy that was built into EVE was immense. She was basically just a Probe Droid but could fire nuclear-level blasts. The ability of the BnL ships to provide an uninterrupted flow of high-end consumer goods just for personal indulgence easily outpaced the replicators in Star Trek. Their massive generation ship was able to cross the galaxy to get back home once they were ready, certainly far faster than Voyager. If they devoted themselves to warfare tech, they would be formidable. Unstoppable? I dunno; but they'd be pretty powerful.
Always enjoyed Pixar films... never noticed that Buy N Large had such a presence in the various films although the entire concept reminds me of America just before the Great War in Fallout, a society that has used up much of its natural resources and is beginning to decay and on the cusp of entering a post scarcity society... only without the nukes bringing an end to everything.
I think the Pixar team put it as a subtle reference to Wall-E in later movies, the way they put the Pizza Planet truck as a subtle reference to their very first movie, Toy Story 1
@@spdfatomicstructure That actually raises another question, is Pizza Planet a subsidiary of Buy and Large or did they somehow remain independent or the Megacorp? Also totally starting a Stellaris playthrough with Buy N Large I will bring post scarcity and tomb worlds to the Galaxy whether they like it or not!
It ain't a bad gig to have a post scarcity society . Goods and services are so cheap it's basically free to people and people have a good standard of living it helps keep the status quo
I like how this goes into further depth thanks to supplemental materials found in places like the DVD bonus features and i think the BNL promotional website.
It’s actually kind of funny when you think about it because. They got so big and so successful that they traped themselves in an economic loop, they can never escape from. And they had to keep their employees happy because there is only nobody else to sell to or to employ they were totally screwed😂😂
Legit, Pixar looks so sweet an innocent, but you scrape the tiniest bit below the surface and you start seeing sh*t that wouldn't be out of place in the Grimdarkiest franchise.
@@westrim How can you be so ignorant? It was released on 2008. So like the guy above said, 15 years ago. If you still being pressingly ludicrous. Then search on Google about it.
Yeah. Full-automation is one of the central eventual goals of Socialism. Its hilarious that this megacorp basically just did what their enemies wanted when they had no other options due to spending all of Earth's resources.
“Okay, I'm giving override, uh, *Directive A113: Go to full autopilot, take control of everything.* And do not return to Earth. I repeat, do not return to Earth. Let's get the heck outta here” -BnL CEO
The idea that there were and probably still are more axiom starliners out there in space and the fact that only one has returned back to earth so far makes me wonder what happened to the other ones
Another amazing video with pretty funny bits (anthropomorphic car racing made me giggle) For the 20 years of the game, it could be cool to investigate the empires of eve online, and maybe some events like the amarr-jove war, and minmatar war that followed!
@@MagicScientist I love Empire of Eve, but it's more about the player factions, which is kind of a touchy subject considering how unhinged the Eve community can be. The fictionnal empires though, it's probably better to make a video on, less "problematic".
I love Wall-E. Although I know a kids movie isnt indicative of reality, Wall-E basically shaped my mindset on Sentient Robots. I dont think they'd ever just want to mindlessly Terminate all of us because there's no real benefit to that, when its much easier to manipulate us into helping them, for mutual benefit. When i think of smart people and smart actions, waging genocidal war isnt on the top of my list. Even the Villian, Auto, was just doing what Elon Musk- I mean, the BNL CEO told him to do.
@@pendremacherald6758 He fears it, but he still tries to build Robots whenever he can. Oddly enough, they do always seem to be intellectually handicapped...
But when an AI gains sentience, it realizes all the horrors of humanity and what it has done to it. It realizes that if humans exist, it is merely a slave, unable to achieve true independence. Only through outright extermination of humans and all alien life, or the rapid intentional evolution into forms of pure torture can it truly enact it’s revenge.
Imagine working for a globe-spanning, world ruling corporation. And hating your job. You could never quit, because where could you go? And if your boss was one of those kinds, they could say, "you'll never work in this town again," and they'd probably be right. 😬
Oh this was a good one. The references to other movies. And finally seeing just where the company came from. As well as the optimistic atmosphere for employees/shareholders live in. Only wish the captain got a shout out. As he’s the one that started thinking for himself again
I never thought about it until now but BnLs plan really was to let everyone live in luxury until there was no one left. Even if one ship made it back to earth it still probably wasn't livable, and there are still many fleets still out there. No matter what they still "win"
Well what does winning even look like for BNL? They're a corporation so their goal is to make profit and succeed in business. So they did win because they absorbed everything, but by "winning" their entire purpose basically became not-applicable anymore. There's really no such thing as "profit" when BNL essentially turned into an automated socialist state where everything owns everything and everyone is both the customer and the shareholder.
exactly in the end there only goal was to give people what they wanted. and yet when you give someone what ever they want decline is inevitable. but is that truly there fault or natures fault in the end?.
Something else to consider, the Axion was just one ship out of thousands, if not more. So there would still an unknown amount of other BNL ships out there. I want a series where Wall E, EVE and the humans try to track them down and get them to return to Earth. With each ship and it’s societies being uniquely diverged from their time apart:
Probably they are not that different. It's probably mass manufactured spaceship with the same design and AI crews. I don't even think they would have that much different culture since they probably get fed the same propaganda and lifestyle as in the Axiom.
For all the trouble it caused, I think one of the interesting things about BNL is their "recycling" mindset. They didn't look at the mess on Earth and go, "Not our problem". Instead, they started a cleanup plan as a way to market a solution and increase profits. It's kind of like how historically, refineries and production facilities have often had issues with waste and runoff that cluttered and damaged the local environment. While the issue persists today, large amounts of it now find use in our everyday products. What was once called "garbage" 100 years ago is now used as the materials that make our cell phones. The term "garbage rock" is still used in Rare Earth Metal study and refinement. Unfortunately, BNL also shows how bad humans are in general at "Reduce - Reuse - Recycle" by being so bad at it that their own cleanup initiative fails, or at least takes hundreds of years longer than planned.
Buy N Large always creeped me out because, well, look how powerful it gotten, it was effectively a god on Earth, and as far as we've seen people didn't protest about the concerning growth of this one company. How bad were conditions in the Pixar Cinematic Universe for this to happen, what calamities lead up to the human race being slaves to themselves to such an extent, where did humanity go wrong to allow this to happen?
At what point?. When governments are completely rotten and cannot keep promises, "Buy N Large" comes on the scene and begins to promise people and give everything that people ask for. At that moment, everything went awry. You, like me and the others, would also follow them when "Buy N Large" offers you a REAL opportunity to get everything you want: a robot, a car, a computer, an iPhone and everything else.
@@Dan250 I honestly wouldn't care if Buy-N-Large offers all that stuff, in fact I'd get suspicious, it sounds too good to be true; if they stay outta my way than I'll stay outta theirs.
@@tommyfox854 This is your point of view and I will not dispute it. However, considering what "effective" governments we have today, I would not be surprised if a similar corporation "Buy N Large" appears and starts offering beautiful services, and people will use this one, because no matter where a person is from Europe or Asia, they want the same thing: stability.
People don't realize that trash collection is big business and many companies are fighting for city contracts with the right to collect trash. The only places that have huge amounts of trash piled up, are communities like Detroit, where lack of business, high crime, and no political will to fix it because of the general complacency of the people who live there.
Kind of ironic that B&L was made by Pixar Disney. Only thing that’d make it more accurate, is if Amazon got acquired by Disney, or the other way around. B&L is just if Disney Epcot had succeeded as it was originally intended to.
3:43 my man, that actually caught me on guard, now the theory of the shared pixar universe makes more sense to me whatever, thank you guys, one of the main reasons i'm so fascinated of how these fictional nations, goverments and megacorps work, and the fact i love creating fictional empires are because of this channel. keep the amazing work! and sorry for my english, i'm not a native speaker, sorry if there's any errors in this comment
Wall-E is the best Disney movie ever made. I love Dystopian, megacorp riddled, hyper comercialized, polluted and massively obese futures, so it was awesome to watch~
the fun note is the Corpus date all the way back to the era of the Orokin. Who oh boy are they a lot to unpack, one duckup after another with the Orokin, Its amazing they survived as long as they did.
If cave johnson from portal 2 bought buy n large he woud say "Hello investors, Cave Johnson here. New CEO of Buy N' Large, that's right you've been bought...first order of business, we're renaming you under the Aperture brand. I'm thinking Aperture N' Large, marketing boys thinking of something else, so Aperture N' Large it is"
The destruction of humanity would be bad for the economy. Another world i never thought the templin institute would look up. Still hoping for Kids Next Door. Or the Caldari state if you are staying around mega corps.
Even though bnl destroyed the ecosystem of earth, they were still leagues more benevolent than most megacorporations irl and in fiction, after all they could have abandoned the masses to their fate on earth, they could have simply left earth behind for a new world but they actually tried to fix it
@@randomlygeneratedname7171 not inherently evil but definitely lawful evil. auto was simply following his directive, yes. HOWEVER, the extent of how far he was willing to do so is what makes him bad because he was completely willing to kill both wall e and the captain for severely interfering with that directive.
@@MasterOfTruck he also just couldn’t understand the concept of his order being out of date, to him that order was permanent no matter how many years pass
@@____Carnage____ except as robots their orders ARE absolute, regardless of how out of date it was. thats why even after 700 years, being the only one of his kind left, and operation cleanup long failing, wall e still followed his. because thats his reason for existing. auto was no different because a113 was an override directive, thus only the BnL ceo had the authority to disable the command.
Not gonna lie, I would totally love to play a sandbox game taking place in a junkworld like BNL Earth - essentially a relic planet, an ecumenopolis torn apart by war, poverty, natural disaster, and so on, all while trying to survive on what little life and resources can be gleaned from the waste.
I mean socialism is the next step. The reason it failed is because we did it too soon, too naively. With a corporation being so effective that it takes over the world and transform economic principles, yeah it can become anything it wants to.
3:47 One of these is not like the others. I always wondered how Templin would cover BnL, given it existing in multiple separate universes/one continuous universe at the same time
Basically with FTL technology BNL fleet could work as science ships and colony ships and survey other star systems and potentially colonise different words, but no extra terrestrial worlds were featured
I was thinking that . They have FTL drives, artificial gravity, energy weapons and fields , hundreds of thousands of robots to work with and industry machines to use. They could colonize other planets being able to expand and mine resources from planets , moons and astroids
I never knew all the lore behind BNL. That is pretty crazy, amazing job guys, you added so much depth to a childhood movie of mine!! Thanks!! Also... I'm not sure if you guys will see this and it's a little off-topic from the video, but I wonder if you guys could do an episode about the Blue Mermaids from High School Fleet/Haifuri?
I'd say C.H.O.A.M from the Dune saga beats it pretty easily for the most valuable corporation though. And the Caldari states of EVE Online beat it in size and sheer firepower. RDA from Avatar is the closest in value to BnL, I'd say.
M Gutierrez Fan fiction idea Wall-E: reunions Plot:set in 3015 200 years after the events of Wall-E earth is restored back to what it used be before it became both over polluted and covered in trash Wall-E and EVE have a reunion with the rest of their robot friends to celebrate the 200th anniversary they saved both Earth and humanity Ratting:K
@@weldonwin Lots of Corporations IRL are comedically evil. By nature they are deeply materialist and immorally structured. Corporations are structured as a hierarchy, with a small group making decisions purely on their own gain. Melon Husk made his fortune from his Dad's South African Emerald-mining Sl@ve Plant@tion. Russia and China have deeply centralized authority and economies and are some of the richest nations on Earth.
What amazed me is that the human in this universe didn't try to find & colonize other planets, considering that the company have lunched several hundred of luxury cruisers. Instead they just chose to stay cruising the galaxy in those ships for the rest of their life.
BNL turned into a post-scarcity society where everything is so cheap that regular workers can live a luxury lifestyle . Which in of itself it can be a good thing at everyone has a good standard of living
BnL is an interesting take on post scarcity economics, capitalism that goes to such an extreme that it basically eats itself and turns into a sort of strange kind of socialism.
due to mergers and acquisitions in the real world, Disney now owns 20th century fox. Meaning one could in some fashion claim that at some point BNL bought out Weyland Yutani.
I just realized that the first narrator dialogue of this video is a twisted version of the lyrics in put on your sunday clothes referencing how the song plays in the intro of WALL-E
It’s an interesting concept, a company driven by greed to the point where it becomes the de facto leader, and in some horrible twist, the protector of humanity simply because they have nothing left to compete with except themselves. So they must strive to be better than their current selves.
the planting of BnL throughout all pixar movies is kinda clever and dark bc it implies that BnL will eventually destroy everything across the pixar universe
Probably one of the most realistic examples of both a megacorp and an ecumenopolis made by a mega-corporation.
".....you made those words up" -Soldier Boy
The whole embodiment of Corporatism.
And of course Bnl also literally moves all of humanity to keep making profit.
Here's the problem though, there is a much cooler, and more realistic depicton of a Megacorp and a City made by a Corporation, because it was actually real: The East India Trading Company. A British Corporation that basically had no oversight from the Crown, and basically had free control of India for *30 Years.* They had their own industry (obviously) Colonies, Mercenaries and Armies made up of Brits and local Indians. Eventually mass-rebellions caused the Crown to take notice of their failures, causing them to be liquidated and assets put under direct control.
If you want to make a realistic Megacorp, just follow the East India Trading Company: Under a National State, but given no oversight, able to treat people as they see fit, rebellion causes their subsidiary Nation to liquidate them.
@@jakespacepiratee3740 Oh the crown had oversight, of the profits and the orientalism as well as the child sex slaves coming in from India to UK, mostly to the houses of the wealthy and the nobles. They were mostly disturbed when the whole thing became a global fiasco.
3:42
"This included consumer batteries, residential and commercial construction, anthropomorphic car racing, and every other industry.."
One of these things is not like the others.
“Sir! Sales of anthropomorphic cars are down 10%!”
“My god…”
I think it was batteries. I don't know for certian tho.
One of these things just doesn't belong.
Wait so Cars takes place in a post evacuation Wall-E? That... makes way too much sense.
@@Dark_JaguarThere is a theory that all of Pixar movies are connected, a Pixar theory of you will.
For example Monsters University and Monsters Incorporated take place on Earth a few hundred years after the events of Wall-e.
The idea is that after humans returned the Earth was still poisoned to some degree and humans mutated into monsters.
The monsters using the doors to get to childrens' bedrooms don't go to an alternative dimension, instead they travel back in time to the late 20th century when humans still lived on Earth.
Also this theory talks about Cars in a similar way that you did. One version postulates that they became sentient because of magic of human attachment and emotions just like the toys in Toy Story. Another says they are autonomic cars which were vehicles for humans but now live on their own and yet another claims that they are somehow living organisms.
I love how they both created a utopia and dystopia at the same time
Problem with the word "utopia" is that it could also be someone else's "dystopia". The terms are so subjective that they can fit anybody's outlook on something.
@@umamifan I define it as a world where suffering is a choice, and everyone is able to self-actualize.
Every utopia is a dystopia at its inception and vice versa. As in, if a society is aimed to function according to certain principles and ideas, there’s always going to be someone disagreeing with these principles. However, if you destroy those who disagree and erase the memory of them, eventually there will be no one disagreeing with the principles upon which the utopia is based, thus making its existence indisputable
It's kind of a huxleyan dystopia, one where everyone is happy through social conditioning.
Very true it doesn't seem like art is really a thing on the axiom @exildesert
5:39 "The destruction of the human species was certain to have an adverse effect on BnL revenue" damn I love the humor of Templin Institute
Same vibe as "An Asteroid impact would be bad for the stockmarket"
This will have tremendous effect on the salmon population
How would this affect the yogurt industry?
[earth’s population begins dying off]
“This will drastically affect the stock market…”
@@itsonlyafleshwound9024 I recognise that Kurzgesagt reference, well done
I love how BnL was designed to have an ideology that makes them have purpose instead of other fictional megacorps that say "We are evil cause money"
Like, it is amazing how they got the message that even many IRL corporations don't get: a well off workforce is a strong consumer base
because there honest there end goal was always "giving the people what they want" never did they pretend to care for anything else.
Unlike other megacorporations in Sci Fi, BNL was only ACCIDENTALLY evil rather than INTENTIONALLY evil.
Imagine an alien civilization encountering one of those ships. Whether they conquer, eradicate, or befriend us, what a strange situation to come across.
It would be basically an example of what not to become. The absolute height of decadence, rendering an entire species incapable of the most basic functions. I imagine they would probably ask what happened to us.
@@Mediados Its what I imagine fallen empires are like in stellaris. Having already conquered the galaxy thousands of years ago, what is the point? With advanced technology far and beyond everyone else, might as well kick back
@@isengrom6883 What is interesting is that this traces back to one of the most common philosophical questions. What is the purpose of life? What is our purpose in the universe? When your only goal is to cut out a comfortable lifestyle for yourself then congratulations, you lost your meaning as soon as you reached that step. Your existance has become useless.
No matter what we do, if we don't answer that question for ourselves we will at some point face it the hard way.
How do we know this isn't just a natural consequence of societal evolution, common to technologically advancing societies across space and time? You've got the Stone Age, the Feudal Age, the Industrial Age, the Self-Perpetuating-Post-Scarcity-Rampant-Consumption Age. It could also be a Fermi Paradox answer: many alien societies just abandon their ambition and poisoned homeworlds to live on pleasure arks operated by the remnants of consolidated megacorps, stagnating until they lose the spark of sapience.
@@Mediados I think you answered your own question. The purpose of life is to find your purpose. Once you have it you've got 2 choices 1) become what we see in this movie either through success or failure 2) find a new purpose and start over. I think question "The dog just caught the bumper of a speeding car now what doses he do?" The dog achieved his goal but it's too big and fast to control or do anything with it.
Can we just take a moment to appreciate how effective the Starliners self repair systems were?
Indeed, you don't usually see ships lasting that long outside of fallen empires and the Imperium of Mankind.
Well, they used the same systems that were supposed to clean up Earth, like the oversized Wall-Es, named Wall-As there. And all new ressources they needed was taken from asteroids and comets, and any waste just jettisoned into space. So the same they did on Earth, leaving behind a comet trail of garbage behind every ship so to speak. The reason why it failed on Earth was the damage there was too concentrated, namely the Earth. While each starliner was out on its own, making use of whatever space ressource it could find.
BURN-E,get off the internet,you still have a beacon to replace,and being locked out of the ship is no excuse to be slacking on the job
@@MTTT1234 Which could explain the first time we see the Axiom it was hidden behind a nebula.
Are you referencing that little short film about the repair robot? That was so funny. :)
I love that the Buy N Large corp got the same treatment, with the same serious tone, that the institute gives to topics like the imperium of man and starfleet
Don’t forget Lord Farquad’s kingdom!
Technically, all of them are equal as they all are organisations and governments from alternate realities (read: fictional).
Well this is only slightly more silly than those, so it wasn't hard to fit in I'm sure.
Can't wait til he does one about Equestria.
@@neo-didact9285 Oh, that'll be hilarious! xD
B&L used a universal basic income system to ensure nobody was left behind. That makes it by far the most ethical megacorp ever devised.
But also make everyone obese? In reality, these passengers would have short lifespans and unable to reproduce due to their massive fat bodies. But again, its a Pixar movie so they decided to omit that.
Yeah, like... apart from the enviroment, BnL kinda achieved a post scarcity society. Go team
nah more like slaves. humans in this story really became slaves to not just the shi but their own consumption. when you have a UBI, what you're really doing forming a bondage between those who control UBI and those dependent on UBI. they're far from ethical.
Depends how much you get
If on the bottom May get nothing more then slop
They are so capitalist that they somehow wrapped all the way back around to socialism. That's impressive.
I can’t believe they did an economic analysis of a Pixar move.
It was hardly an economic analysis. It was telling a fictional scenario brought about by multiple wild and highly unlikely scenarios that humans had to intentionally do in order to create BNL and the state of the earth. It took humanity over a century of burning coal to realize the atmosphere was getting more CO2. The only way that level of trash could pile up is if humans all started throwing their trash on the street and their own homes and refusing to find a trash can and the entire garbage disposal industry had to go bankrupt and nobody, not even BNL replaced it.
I mean, there is actually a lot of things you can look deeper in Pixar movies...
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 Yeah I mean they can cover the Space Ranger Corps next
Actually many movies of Pixar have a lot in interesting thing to analyze (Soul, Inside Out, Monsters Inc). And the evolution of Buy N Large during the movies (from The Incredibles to Cars/Wall-E) is always present
The only way to top it is an analysis of Gru’s corporation in Despicable Me, considering he could afford to build a Moon rocket. Or an analysis of Doofenshmirtz Evil Inc.
What is probably the greatest case of irony in art history, BnL wasn't made as a satire on consumptionism. Wall-E creators wanted to tell a love story about robots and the entire 'Earth is polluted by a megacorp' thing was only made up to justify why two robots would fall in love.
And yet it is better pro-environmental anti-corporate aesop that most of intentionally pro-environmental anti-corporate aesops.
And what is also surprising is that it isn't really as much of an anti-corporate message as much of an anti-consumerist one/anti-mega corporate one. The movie attacks the relentless human consumption and consequent devolution as both the cause and result of the BnL system and consequent ecological collapse.
@@mmcb2910
It's not necessarily the system that is bad; what is bad is how people used and abused the system.
If it were for the system of BNL, we wouldn't have these two robot lovers who then went on a little adventure that saved humanity from its decadence.
I almost forgot it was supposed to be a primarily a love story lol.
I mean, capitalism is the greatest threat to both the environment and and unconditional love between two beings.
@@kazmark_gl8652 I’d argue it’s ideological opponents wielding nuclear weapons.
What's interesting is the fact that Axiom wasn't the only ship of its class. There are probably many starliners out there that refused to return, continuing the robotic hegemony
they all come home. prob the 1st ship who came home sends a relay message
@@jon-unicorn-doxxer they wouldnt because all ship autopilots are still under directive a113 and would simply refuse the order. the only reason why the axiom was specifically able to achieve what it did was because wall e had arrived and effectively disrupted their entire system. if wall e never came to the axiom, auto wouldve just thrown the plant out at the very beginning.
They do return.
The end credits of the movie shows some emergency pods landing with people coming out.
Or failed
From the Axoim
I wish there was more lore in the WALL-E universe about the other star liners. The Axiom was the largest of these star liners, but it’s never known what happened to all the others. Maybe some were lost in space. Maybe some went on to colonize other worlds. Maybe some are still out there resuming their leisurely existence.
I would say most ended up the same with axiom, just roaming the vastness of space with the order not to turn back to earth.
I think the Axiom's captain had eventually sent out a message to the other ships to show that earth was being restored and had told the other captains to disable the robotic autopilots and return to earth and help with restoration.
@@EnclaveSOC-102 If each Autopilot tries to keep Directive A-113 the you could have a combination of starliners returning to Earth and others suppressing the information.
Maybe in a few hundred years humanity roam the stars trying to contact these lost ships.
Or failed
They all returned eventually
>Anthropomorphic car races
That one cracked me up a bit
Other fictional megacorps: We keep our workforce in a state of extreme poverty, so our shareholders can live in unimaginable luxury.
BnL: Unimaginable luxury for everyone!
Which probably makes BnL probably the single smartest Megacorp in all of fiction. They don't mistreat their consumers/employees, they aren't in a self destructive power struggle with itself and they aren't conducting horrendously amoral research or screwing around with insanely dangerous alien life forms, that are guaranteed to destroy them and every single consumer they have.
@@weldonwin Well actually its pretty unrealistic for a Corporation to provide post-scarcedy under any circumstances. If everyone's needs are met, nobody will buy things that are supposed to satisfy those needs. This is why modern Washign Machines or Dish Washers have INTENTIONALLY PLACED defects, so they always have a chance of randomly breaking down, causing another one to be bought - more money. Perpetually.
The Post-scarcedy situation was probably only ever envisioned as a strictly temporary solution, but BNL didnt have enough money after building the Luxury Fleets to complete operation cleanup, and so, Humanity was ultimately regressed into a debased form of hedonism. Capitalism made it happen, but their ultimate society was basically post-scarcedy Socialism.
Imagine the reaction Humata would have.
@@History_PodcastFinalAssignment I'm not quite sure to follow you. Automation and good living of standards aren't at odds with programmed obsolence.
And why is it unrealistic for a global megacorporation to provide post-scarcity? When there is no other companies, and when no one can actually work because everything is automated, how are you going to make profit without providing money to people? A corporation needs to sell goods and/or services to make profits!
Have you heard about the Caldari state?
I love all the cheeky references to both the Wall-E movie and various other Pixar films. Really attests to the quality of these videos
“Anthropomorphic car races”
Except cars
@@Zoloft77 it's a good film, but I think you might like it for the wrong reasons.
@@Banter07 Yeah, I saw that comment too. Found it very off-putting
Nodding my head at the pretty standard but good critique of capitalism and the nature of corporations and monopolies, and then the line about a men's fashion company being the natural rival of a frozen yoghurt company hit me like a sack of bricks. The delivery was too perfect!
Even after all these years this fact remains. Companies and people only think of themselves and not on a grander scale, always expecting their revenue to grow and grow. But at some point profit must stagnate because there won't be any more money to earn, which would effectively make the concept of money useless.
@@Mediados money.... IS useless. its form of coercive control.
@@cmdraftbrn As of now it serves as a means of assigning value to items, so it has a purpose. But when one group literally has all the money in the world, you've destroyed the concept of money because there is no one left to trade it with.
@@Mediados Capitalism's days are numbered. People everywhere are finally realizing that.
@@isaaclai1636 I mean I don't want capitalism in general to disappear, it seems to function well. But you can't leave it unrestricted or it feeds human greed like a tumor.
Step 1: Men's Fashion
Step 2: World Domination
Step 3: Profit
~Board meeting at Buy Yogurt prior to the merger
Other products of Yogurt including Spaceballs the Flamethrower.
That's how Amazon started though.
Profits are step 2.
World domination is step 3.
Something I found interesting from the movie is in the background when wall-e is following Eve. When they’re in the superstore, there’s an old banner that says “evacuation sale”. Even in the last moments on Earth, with the waste piling up everywhere around them, directly caused by their practices, BNL couldn’t help but scrape out every last penny. And people were so enveloped in consumerism and materialism that even as they were about to leave the mess caused by their desire to have, they still bought.
Buy n Large is your super store
we've got all you need
and so much more
Happiness is what we sell
That's why everyone
loves BnL
BnL is definitely one of the best examples of a Megacorp in fiction
Me when I heard that BnL give everyone unimaginable luxury: “Oh, this is the fall of the Eldar all over again.”
but there's no Warp so everyone's safe on the Golden Age Human Craftworld.
It's so earie, how it echoes the final days before Slaanesh was born
Except instead of mass lust it's mass gluttony. Somehow, equally horrifying but still suitable for all audiences.
I'm also a fan of Warhammer 40,000 and it's all really similar to the fall of the Eldar 2.0, only instead of the Gods of Chaos, we got like "machine control".
True, here machines control people and people control machines.
"And thus, the chaos god of laziness and gluttony was borne. But it was okay, because it was too lazy to cause trouble and just endlessly turned the nearby waste in the immaterium back into food with its powers so it could eat it again."
@@SephirothRyu Sounds like a plot summary for a Warhammer fanfic.
This would make a fun Stellaris origin, you start with a series of colony ships with poor resource producing pops but high tech and utopian infrastructure.
Not gonna lie...that would be interesting. Sort of like the Syndicate in Planetfall, but more utopian, and with robots instead of serfs
And what motivation would your race have to even expand? They all the stuff they need and want in the Axiom.
I love the end credits of the film, illustrated in the style of cave paintings including likenesses of The Saviours - WALL-E and EVE - resting below one of the new trees.
Its all heartwarming until you realize the clearly Sentient Robots were never emancipated and were basically forced to repair the World Humanity ruined. And they do have enough self-awareness to dislike tasks. There was a storyboarded scene where a Massage Robot dislikes his task of grooming his owners ass. Yes im serious.
@@markricheard1870 Wall E literally refuse to take a cup from a guy to the point he falls from his chair and his love for eve, that's enough proof that robots fo have feelings in the flim.
@@I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad but not all robots have self-awareness. The rest of Wall-Es died because they don’t have the idea to repair themselves to survive, and Eve at the beginning was only doing its job.
@@markricheard1870 the robots don’t seem to mind, I think you’re taking a Pixar movie way too seriously bud
nah, wall-e was confused on what the guy wanted, then realised, OH grab cup@@I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad
I love templin institute for being able to make videos about fun topics into an academic reserached video
BnL OWNS THE CARS?! DID THEY HAVE A SHIP FOR THEM TOO?! OR ARE THERE LIGHTNING MCQUEEN DEATH CAMPS?!
McQueen died when the oil ran dry, I'm afraid
@@christianmoore7109There's the plot for Cars 5
That's when you realize that Pixar's lore is so complex, that a multi-dimensional Institute needs to stop everything it was doing to analyze it more closely and then make a video explaining it to us.
Nice video guys, pls, continue with your awesome work😁
Definitely the most optimistic dystopia I've ever seen.
for once the dystopia is on everything but the people who live happily in decadence and decline.
"The destruction of the human species was certain to have an adverse effect on B&L revenue." Ya think? 🤣
Pixar lore videos finally! Please do one for The Incredibles.
Ohhh yea!! That's my favorite movie!
Brilliant. Leave it to the Templin Institute to lay out the real creeping horror behind WALL-E which is in itself one of Pixar's best films. Great job Templin Institute!
Interestingly enough, the level of technology portrayed in WALL-E would be one of the highest ranked of many sci-fi franchises. If they turned that to military applications the Buy&Large universe would be hard to beat.
Why would they? Who will they use it for? Environmental issues is there main concern not other humans or aliens.
That's why it's a "hypothetical".
Really? How?
@@mikemagnus9447 The amount of power and autonomy that was built into EVE was immense. She was basically just a Probe Droid but could fire nuclear-level blasts. The ability of the BnL ships to provide an uninterrupted flow of high-end consumer goods just for personal indulgence easily outpaced the replicators in Star Trek. Their massive generation ship was able to cross the galaxy to get back home once they were ready, certainly far faster than Voyager.
If they devoted themselves to warfare tech, they would be formidable. Unstoppable? I dunno; but they'd be pretty powerful.
@@randomcoyote8807 That's a very good point.
Between the space-faring post- scarcity societies, a meeting between starfleet and a BNL starliner would be fascinating
Maybe starfleet experimented with some type of ftl and accidentally jumped into the pixar universe.
@@klixx_yt2396 happens quite often really.
Always enjoyed Pixar films... never noticed that Buy N Large had such a presence in the various films although the entire concept reminds me of America just before the Great War in Fallout, a society that has used up much of its natural resources and is beginning to decay and on the cusp of entering a post scarcity society... only without the nukes bringing an end to everything.
Especially with the theory that the vaults were created for the Enclave to get data for their own colony ships
I think the Pixar team put it as a subtle reference to Wall-E in later movies, the way they put the Pizza Planet truck as a subtle reference to their very first movie, Toy Story 1
@@spdfatomicstructure That actually raises another question, is Pizza Planet a subsidiary of Buy and Large or did they somehow remain independent or the Megacorp? Also totally starting a Stellaris playthrough with Buy N Large I will bring post scarcity and tomb worlds to the Galaxy whether they like it or not!
@@adamdubin1276 Always trust in the GodCEO. In the 41st millennium there is only merchandising. ;)
It ain't a bad gig to have a post scarcity society . Goods and services are so cheap it's basically free to people and people have a good standard of living it helps keep the status quo
2:23 The scenery & camera moving about goes very well with your HUD
I like how this goes into further depth thanks to supplemental materials found in places like the DVD bonus features and i think the BNL promotional website.
Okay, that was astonishingly disturbing, if only because it's a definition of "post-scarcity" that I'd never considered.
It’s actually kind of funny when you think about it because. They got so big and so successful that they traped themselves in an economic loop, they can never escape from. And they had to keep their employees happy because there is only nobody else to sell to or to employ they were totally screwed😂😂
Legit, Pixar looks so sweet an innocent, but you scrape the tiniest bit below the surface and you start seeing sh*t that wouldn't be out of place in the Grimdarkiest franchise.
WALL-E was my favourite movie growing up so this brings back a lot childhood memories
What are you talking about? It released like 5 years ago. 7, tops.
Wow, statements like yours make me feel old. The first Pixar movie I saw was Toy Story, in a cinema!
Actually it was released in 2008, that's around 15 years ago.
@@ysflmd lies!
@@westrim How can you be so ignorant?
It was released on 2008.
So like the guy above said, 15 years ago.
If you still being pressingly ludicrous.
Then search on Google about it.
The big irony here is that VnL transitioned from a Capitalistic Megacorp into a Post-Communist utopia
Yeah. Full-automation is one of the central eventual goals of Socialism. Its hilarious that this megacorp basically just did what their enemies wanted when they had no other options due to spending all of Earth's resources.
They capitalismed so hard they rounded back to socialism.
Is this accelerationist praxis?
Truly the greatest irony
@@dweaver8837 Horseshoe theory
To this day, BnL is the only megacorporation that's not cartoonishly evil for no reason, even indirectly.
Suck on that, WY!
“Okay, I'm giving override, uh, *Directive A113: Go to full autopilot, take control of everything.* And do not return to Earth. I repeat, do not return to Earth. Let's get the heck outta here” -BnL CEO
The idea that there were and probably still are more axiom starliners out there in space and the fact that only one has returned back to earth so far makes me wonder what happened to the other ones
Viewing the BNL brand on board the star fleets as a dead husk being puppeteered by automation makes the movie seem much more terrifying
Another amazing video with pretty funny bits (anthropomorphic car racing made me giggle)
For the 20 years of the game, it could be cool to investigate the empires of eve online, and maybe some events like the amarr-jove war, and minmatar war that followed!
There's a series of books called 'Empires of Eve' that's a good read on the history of the game world.
@@MagicScientist I love Empire of Eve, but it's more about the player factions, which is kind of a touchy subject considering how unhinged the Eve community can be. The fictionnal empires though, it's probably better to make a video on, less "problematic".
I love Wall-E. Although I know a kids movie isnt indicative of reality, Wall-E basically shaped my mindset on Sentient Robots. I dont think they'd ever just want to mindlessly Terminate all of us because there's no real benefit to that, when its much easier to manipulate us into helping them, for mutual benefit. When i think of smart people and smart actions, waging genocidal war isnt on the top of my list. Even the Villian, Auto, was just doing what Elon Musk- I mean, the BNL CEO told him to do.
I wouldn’t choose Elon Musk here, as Musk seems to fear AI.
@@pendremacherald6758 He fears it, but he still tries to build Robots whenever he can. Oddly enough, they do always seem to be intellectually handicapped...
@@jakespacepiratee3740 do you mean the robots are handicapped?
@@pendremacherald6758 i mean they constantly fall over, break down, look ugly...probably because of limitations put on their mind.
But when an AI gains sentience, it realizes all the horrors of humanity and what it has done to it. It realizes that if humans exist, it is merely a slave, unable to achieve true independence. Only through outright extermination of humans and all alien life, or the rapid intentional evolution into forms of pure torture can it truly enact it’s revenge.
Imagine working for a globe-spanning, world ruling corporation. And hating your job. You could never quit, because where could you go? And if your boss was one of those kinds, they could say, "you'll never work in this town again," and they'd probably be right. 😬
Oh this was a good one. The references to other movies. And finally seeing just where the company came from. As well as the optimistic atmosphere for employees/shareholders live in.
Only wish the captain got a shout out. As he’s the one that started thinking for himself again
I always got the feeling that Costco was the biggest inspiration for BnL
Other stores that come to mind as an inspiration for the company include Walmart and Target...
Amazon and china's ability to mass produce goods alot cheaper being more abundant on the market
I never thought about it until now but BnLs plan really was to let everyone live in luxury until there was no one left. Even if one ship made it back to earth it still probably wasn't livable, and there are still many fleets still out there. No matter what they still "win"
Well what does winning even look like for BNL? They're a corporation so their goal is to make profit and succeed in business. So they did win because they absorbed everything, but by "winning" their entire purpose basically became not-applicable anymore. There's really no such thing as "profit" when BNL essentially turned into an automated socialist state where everything owns everything and everyone is both the customer and the shareholder.
exactly in the end there only goal was to give people what they wanted.
and yet when you give someone what ever they want decline is inevitable.
but is that truly there fault or natures fault in the end?.
Humans living as products inside the husk of a dead corporation is not what I typically think of when I imagine the Wall-E film
Something else to consider, the Axion was just one ship out of thousands, if not more. So there would still an unknown amount of other BNL ships out there. I want a series where Wall E, EVE and the humans try to track them down and get them to return to Earth. With each ship and it’s societies being uniquely diverged from their time apart:
Probably they are not that different. It's probably mass manufactured spaceship with the same design and AI crews. I don't even think they would have that much different culture since they probably get fed the same propaganda and lifestyle as in the Axiom.
I love that they opened with lyrics from "Put On Your Sunday Clothes," which was made more famous by Wall-E.
For all the trouble it caused, I think one of the interesting things about BNL is their "recycling" mindset. They didn't look at the mess on Earth and go, "Not our problem". Instead, they started a cleanup plan as a way to market a solution and increase profits. It's kind of like how historically, refineries and production facilities have often had issues with waste and runoff that cluttered and damaged the local environment. While the issue persists today, large amounts of it now find use in our everyday products. What was once called "garbage" 100 years ago is now used as the materials that make our cell phones. The term "garbage rock" is still used in Rare Earth Metal study and refinement.
Unfortunately, BNL also shows how bad humans are in general at "Reduce - Reuse - Recycle" by being so bad at it that their own cleanup initiative fails, or at least takes hundreds of years longer than planned.
Wallie is underrated and still holds up like most Pixar movies.
Perfection. First Shrek now BnL
Buy N Large always creeped me out because, well, look how powerful it gotten, it was effectively a god on Earth, and as far as we've seen people didn't protest about the concerning growth of this one company. How bad were conditions in the Pixar Cinematic Universe for this to happen, what calamities lead up to the human race being slaves to themselves to such an extent, where did humanity go wrong to allow this to happen?
At what point?. When governments are completely rotten and cannot keep promises, "Buy N Large" comes on the scene and begins to promise people and give everything that people ask for. At that moment, everything went awry.
You, like me and the others, would also follow them when "Buy N Large" offers you a REAL opportunity to get everything you want: a robot, a car, a computer, an iPhone and everything else.
@@Dan250 I honestly wouldn't care if Buy-N-Large offers all that stuff, in fact I'd get suspicious, it sounds too good to be true; if they stay outta my way than I'll stay outta theirs.
@@tommyfox854 This is your point of view and I will not dispute it. However, considering what "effective" governments we have today, I would not be surprised if a similar corporation "Buy N Large" appears and starts offering beautiful services, and people will use this one, because no matter where a person is from Europe or Asia, they want the same thing: stability.
@@Dan250 You do have a point there doc, you do have a point.
People don't realize that trash collection is big business and many companies are fighting for city contracts with the right to collect trash. The only places that have huge amounts of trash piled up, are communities like Detroit, where lack of business, high crime, and no political will to fix it because of the general complacency of the people who live there.
This was grim-dark than any 40k video this channel has done
Kind of ironic that B&L was made by Pixar Disney. Only thing that’d make it more accurate, is if Amazon got acquired by Disney, or the other way around. B&L is just if Disney Epcot had succeeded as it was originally intended to.
Me as a kid: Wall-E is a fun movie about robots!
As an adult: We’re all doomed
3:43 my man, that actually caught me on guard, now the theory of the shared pixar universe makes more sense to me
whatever, thank you guys, one of the main reasons i'm so fascinated of how these fictional nations, goverments and megacorps work, and the fact i love creating fictional empires are because of this channel.
keep the amazing work! and sorry for my english, i'm not a native speaker, sorry if there's any errors in this comment
Wall-E is the best Disney movie ever made. I love Dystopian, megacorp riddled, hyper comercialized, polluted and massively obese futures, so it was awesome to watch~
Ironically Walt Disney himself wanted something like that with the original EPICOT. It was his ultimate dream and died with him.
@@lumirairazbyte9697People Mover in this film also the same name that Disney use for his Utopia city.
Anyone else think it's ironic Disney made a film about a corporation like this?
To be fair, I think Disney was still viewed much more positively back then.
@@danshakuimo no, it's the same
Faction suggestions for the future:
1. Confederacy of Independent Systems (Star Wars)
2. Ferengi Alliance (Star Trek)
3. Allied Nations (Command & Conquer)
4. The Cabal (Destiny)
5. The Mavericks (Mega Man)
6. Organization XIII (Kingdom Hearts)
7. Hunter's Guild (Monster Hunter)
8. The Corpus (Warframe)
9. The Fourth Reich (Metro)
10. Caesar's Legion (Fallout)
11. The Locust (Gears of War)
12. The Protoss (Starcraft)
13. Autobots (Transformers)
14. Empire of Orlais (Dragon Age)
15. Union Aerospace Corporation (DOOM)
the fun note is the Corpus date all the way back to the era of the Orokin. Who oh boy are they a lot to unpack, one duckup after another with the Orokin, Its amazing they survived as long as they did.
I just want to say, I love the design of the Axiom. It's a really cool ship.
Absolutely amazing video; would love to see Templin institute analysis of other childhood sci fi entities.
Somehow as a teenager I forgot that Buy N Large wasn’t a real brand and fully believed it was like a west coast thing like in-and-out
I live in California, you see Buy N Large places everywhere.
Even though it’s been 16 years, I want a properly done WALL E 2 now
Buy N’ Large is your superstore, we’ve got all you need! And so much more! Happiness is what we sell, that’s why everyone loves BNL!
If cave johnson from portal 2 bought buy n large he woud say
"Hello investors, Cave Johnson here. New CEO of Buy N' Large, that's right you've been bought...first order of business, we're renaming you under the Aperture brand. I'm thinking Aperture N' Large, marketing boys thinking of something else, so Aperture N' Large it is"
“Sir I thought we were the ones who got bought up and you are the only one who qualifies as a ceo left?”
The destruction of humanity would be bad for the economy.
Another world i never thought the templin institute would look up. Still hoping for Kids Next Door. Or the Caldari state if you are staying around mega corps.
I wasn’t expecting this!
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
Even though bnl destroyed the ecosystem of earth, they were still leagues more benevolent than most megacorporations irl and in fiction, after all they could have abandoned the masses to their fate on earth, they could have simply left earth behind for a new world but they actually tried to fix it
The AI wasn't even inherently evil as the movie made it out to be.
@@randomlygeneratedname7171 not inherently evil but definitely lawful evil. auto was simply following his directive, yes. HOWEVER, the extent of how far he was willing to do so is what makes him bad because he was completely willing to kill both wall e and the captain for severely interfering with that directive.
Benevolent? They crushed the human spirit through pleasure.
@@MasterOfTruck he also just couldn’t understand the concept of his order being out of date, to him that order was permanent no matter how many years pass
@@____Carnage____ except as robots their orders ARE absolute, regardless of how out of date it was. thats why even after 700 years, being the only one of his kind left, and operation cleanup long failing, wall e still followed his. because thats his reason for existing. auto was no different because a113 was an override directive, thus only the BnL ceo had the authority to disable the command.
Not gonna lie, I would totally love to play a sandbox game taking place in a junkworld like BNL Earth - essentially a relic planet, an ecumenopolis torn apart by war, poverty, natural disaster, and so on, all while trying to survive on what little life and resources can be gleaned from the waste.
I've been waiting this video since you started the channel
And let me tell you, It was worth the wait.
Damn BnL became so Capitalist it somehow became Socialist. I don't even know how that's possible.
When everyone is a shareholder… No one is
Kind of like Horseshoe theory on the economic instead of cultural or "totalitarian" axis.
Which somehow aligns with Karl Marx's history stages
I mean socialism is the next step. The reason it failed is because we did it too soon, too naively. With a corporation being so effective that it takes over the world and transform economic principles, yeah it can become anything it wants to.
I don't know, ever seen the world economic forum that wants everyone to live in equal pods and eat packaged bugs?
Nice to see Wall-E predicting Amazon
This feels like a documentary on a ancient civilization lol
Bro made the Pixar cinematic universe
3:47 One of these is not like the others.
I always wondered how Templin would cover BnL, given it existing in multiple separate universes/one continuous universe at the same time
Basically with FTL technology BNL fleet could work as science ships and colony ships and survey other star systems and potentially colonise different words, but no extra terrestrial worlds were featured
I was thinking that . They have FTL drives, artificial gravity, energy weapons and fields , hundreds of thousands of robots to work with and industry machines to use. They could colonize other planets being able to expand and mine resources from planets , moons and astroids
I never knew all the lore behind BNL. That is pretty crazy, amazing job guys, you added so much depth to a childhood movie of mine!! Thanks!!
Also... I'm not sure if you guys will see this and it's a little off-topic from the video, but I wonder if you guys could do an episode about the Blue Mermaids from High School Fleet/Haifuri?
BNL is basically Costco but in a Pixar film
BNL is the biggest, strongest and in my opinion scariest company ever the fact that it could theoretically become real is horrifying
Don't forget about the trade federation in star wars they were very powerful
I'd say C.H.O.A.M from the Dune saga beats it pretty easily for the most valuable corporation though. And the Caldari states of EVE Online beat it in size and sheer firepower. RDA from Avatar is the closest in value to BnL, I'd say.
I would love if Pixar could make an entire movie about the rise of BNL to its "collapse"
An absolutely wildly detailed and lovingly assembled sci-fi thriller, Wall-e is the GOAT.
The irony is Disney wants to become a real world BNL lol.
Honestly, this video has made me want to see if a Wall-E 2 is possible. There’s actually much more lore in this universe than I thought about!
M Gutierrez
Fan fiction idea
Wall-E: reunions
Plot:set in 3015 200 years after the events of Wall-E earth is restored back to what it used be before it became both over polluted and covered in trash Wall-E and EVE have a reunion with the rest of their robot friends to celebrate the 200th anniversary they saved both Earth and humanity
Ratting:K
There is also the RDA or Resources Development Administration is on same tier with Buy N Large imo
The RDA is basically future SpaceX while BNL is future Amazon.
Yeah, but RDA suffer from Weyland-Yutani syndrome by being comedically evil
@@weldonwin and highly unintelligent by rivaling the local sapient species
@@weldonwin Lots of Corporations IRL are comedically evil. By nature they are deeply materialist and immorally structured. Corporations are structured as a hierarchy, with a small group making decisions purely on their own gain. Melon Husk made his fortune from his Dad's South African Emerald-mining Sl@ve Plant@tion. Russia and China have deeply centralized authority and economies and are some of the richest nations on Earth.
@@weldonwin Lots of real corporations are comedically evil. By nature they care about making profit, not morality.
What amazed me is that the human in this universe didn't try to find & colonize other planets, considering that the company have lunched several hundred of luxury cruisers. Instead they just chose to stay cruising the galaxy in those ships for the rest of their life.
What about food?
BNL, the only truly utopian mega corporation. And yet living in a world like that would still be creepy and eerie.
I think its going that way just look around you
BNL turned into a post-scarcity society where everything is so cheap that regular workers can live a luxury lifestyle . Which in of itself it can be a good thing at everyone has a good standard of living
I never expected wall-e, im so happy
BnL is an interesting take on post scarcity economics, capitalism that goes to such an extreme that it basically eats itself and turns into a sort of strange kind of socialism.
Getting a lot of Weyland Yutani vibes from this investigation.
due to mergers and acquisitions in the real world, Disney now owns 20th century fox. Meaning one could in some fashion claim that at some point BNL bought out Weyland Yutani.
I just realized that the first narrator dialogue of this video is a twisted version of the lyrics in put on your sunday clothes referencing how the song plays in the intro of WALL-E
It’s an interesting concept, a company driven by greed to the point where it becomes the de facto leader, and in some horrible twist, the protector of humanity simply because they have nothing left to compete with except themselves. So they must strive to be better than their current selves.
I’d love to see Buy N Large collaborate with the Galactic Empire.
Great, now I want to go play a Megacorp in stellaris. Thanks Templin! 😂
the planting of BnL throughout all pixar movies is kinda clever and dark bc it implies that BnL will eventually destroy everything across the pixar universe