This is why we choose Rend over Titan...
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- In this video we did Titan only runs where I think we did a good job of showcasing why Titan is currently the worst moon in Lethal Company.
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Me and my boys have developed a funky strategy to deal with Titan. You have to get the deep loot out before the mob spawns start the clown show so time is everything, you have to go deep, fast. Two of us immediately use the inverse teleporter while one goes to main and the other to fire exit. There they will try to locate the teleporter boys to help them find the way out and grab the loot thats around the entrances. And now the funky part: They each bring a walkie talkie. The purpose: To drop them in the labyrinth at the first crossroads, pointing towards the exit. They emit a little bit of light and can be seen from very very far away. When the first person returns to the ship they become the operator and make beeps by repeatedly leftclicking a walkie talkie while using the terminal. These beeps the walkie talkies on the inside now make can be used to locate the exits by ear even if no one is around. This has saved our runs countless times, especially when we have to walk backwards thanks to coilheads. Often the walkies end up being left behind but since they are so cheap it's totally worth it. When the operator sees someone leave the facility they grab the jetpack and fly up to grab the loot so the looter can go back in quicker, afterwards he goes back on radio duty. Also instead of beeps you can play boombox music over the walkie while operating the terminal, becoming a radio host! Of course this strategy becomes a lot weaker in the mansion layout since the operator can't use doors there and also for map layout reasons, its better to just have everybody loot there.
Whats the scrap tried on a good Titan run usually?
This guy Lethal Companys
Door strats on mansion?
This guy is the company's greatest asset
He's him
Titan: impossibly high risk, impossibly high reward
Rend: Shotgun goes BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
More like Impossibly high risk, 600 more scrap as a reward
(but it's actually just impossible to get that extra scrap)
*unachievably high reward
Titan is better rend will kill you because low scrap count also getting insanely lost. if you struggle with turrets and mine on titan you just have a insane skill issue
@@Dante-gf7cc Rend has a significantly higher scrap density than Titan, so you're just flat-out wrong.
If Rend "kills runs", then explain why all world record holders use it for their very long runs where risk is the largest factor?
@@Dante-gf7ccif you get lost on rend YOU have a skill issue 💀💀💀
I feel like titan just needs a bit more loot (or exchange all the low galue items for mid value items, no whoopee cushions) and a 15% smaller map size. Thats half the problem, it's just too spread out (and deep) considering the turrents and the enemies that spawn there so it makes it impossible to access over half the loot on the map most of the time.
Not more loot, just higher price loot. There's a lot of loot that you jsut wont have time to pick up, even if the map was a bit smaller
They need to stop allowing whoopie cushions, brushes and other low value items to spawn on titan. @@SiffrinISAT
They should buff Dine's loot value too tbh, have the 2 most expensive moons have the associated risks of running into monsters too soon on Dine and getting lost on Titan, but both ultimately more rewarding than Rend.
@@tequilasunset4651 Completely agree. Even putting monsters aside turrets and landmines make Dine really risky compared to Rend.
Turrets are easy to deal with and the only impossible enemies is ghost girl, jester and coilhead
4:22 I'm glad that no amount of game knowledge or playtime will make tense moments like this not terrifying lol
3:03 Your timing is almost comedic
I also love it when people say "hi buddy" to the bracken showing up
15:38 sinik mvp moment
It's also more than just loot tables, the normal Titan/Experimentation interior funnels you via catwalks and pipes at nearly every entrance and corridor, tight choke points etc. It's not just loot, but general risk assessment, that hostile interior gives you less places to hide from shotgun blasts and turret line of sight, smaller rooms to fight nutcrackers thumpers. Jumps you have to make, that enemies can walk across freely (that's also why it walked through the rail and just kicked you instantly. To it's AI pathing, it's a flat open room, but if it tries to stop in the middle where the pit is, it will be collected over to one side to avoid being 'floating' like what mansion rails do that help bug out the jester)
Easier to get lost in facility maps too
12:40
Dine is also a larger map, but doesn't have enough loot to compensate, so you get worse loot density. Rend has the highest loot density of any map
I think titan either needs a smaller map or more loot to try and at least match the density of Rend or Dine, because it's a huge disparity in the loot density you get from them
edit: oh hey, someone else that also did the loot density calculations lol. Pretty similar numbers to what I got, although mine were from when presents were more common. I also didn't actually consider how presents drop loot, so that could skew the prices as well. It's really surprising to me how good assurance is, and I thought my math was wrong the first time I saw it, but I'm glad that someone else's math agrees with me
edit 2: I went ahead and accounted for present drops, and not much changed. Also, if you include beehive prices, Assurance bumps up to 650 scrap per size unit, and vow comes in second. March has the highest average scrap value, but the 2x size multiplier is awful for loot density. If you do bees though, experimentation is still a bit worse in terms of loot density
Titan is fine the way it is, the turrets and mines are manageable, you get a ton of loot by only going through a few doors, obviously it's hard to compare the dif from a comment so I'll link a video compare both
@@Dante-gf7cc that might be because items don't spawn in every room on the facility layout. They only spawn on grate tiles and dedicated "loot room", meaning you get pockets of high loot density. With mansion, loot spawns on every tile, with some hallway and kitchen tables getting a boost, and with the kitchen counter also getting a boost
also, mansion tiles might be physically a bit larger than facility tiles on average, which likely plays into it as well
@@adicsbtw I would say titan is fine, it has the highest potential loot, sure it's stretched thin inside the very large map but it's outside is one of the shortest, making it viable to stay inside for longer than most moons, and the items kinda just need to be thrown down instead of carried unlike on normal maps, I still find rend and dine more fun but we average a higher loot in titan
@@he3004 it does not. Artifice has the highest loot potential now, and the outside isn't even really too short. If you know the optimal routes on Rend, you can get in and faster than Titan
@@adicsbtw I mean, artifice clearly wins in terms of loot, I straight up didn't include it since it crushes all of the snow moons, and let's correct my shortest outside to the easiest loot transfer, it may take long to personally get to main, but you can throw the loot all the way down where it takes little time to pick and carry to the ship
6:40 It's called an endangered species because if you see it, you're in danger
"Itd be a shame if a bracken snuck up behind me" -sees bracken- "oh hey there bud, can you go away?" 😂😂 man called that one
3:03 is where it happens for anyone curious
LMAO the Jester spawing right when the aparatus is taken i'm deaad
after playing a LOT of Dine-only, gotta say, pro-flashlight really helps against the turrets, since you can actually SEE them. The counter-play is very straight forward once you know where the turrets are and which way they're facing.
I was just starting to get used to not using flashlight and then the turrets in dine and titan immediately taught me a lesson lol, rend is amazing for not having turrets
okay, so you can go to the LAME BORING, facility map, with big loot in open rooms (not hallways), and it has a chance to spawn the COOL AWSOME mansion map but like lets be honest, titan just does not spawn loot on mansion.
OR YOU CAN GO TO THE COOL AWSOME AMAZING mansion map, big loot all around, and nutcrackers are everywhere = shotguns, = shotfuns.
“Shot funs” 💀
My friends and I go to Titan because it's more fun. The trip up and down is fun, inside the facility is dangerous and exciting and on top of it all you get good loot. If you aren't doing high quota then the loot you get is more than enough even factoring in the death risk, everyone in a group of four tends to bring back a full inventory of high value items if we play safe, and we can get more if we play risky and risk some deaths. It's much easier if you travel in pairs and assign roles and let me tell you the flashlight actually helps in tense situations where you're being chased and you don't have time to scan your way through the darkness.
the music, the ambiance, everything. perfect. all those clips were nuts
bro i just noticed that its "37 seconds ago" lmao
bro i just noticed that its "4 hours ago" lmao 🍞
@@thunderwise but i just had an argument with my friend about what is better titan or rend and this video dropped and i thought that i just so happened to find it but it was posted 37 seconds ago
@@simo_______ you willed it into existence
Bro I just noticed it’s a day ago
Bro I just noticed the 2 days ago
“You’re fine, you’re a pro” 3 seconds later *scream and shotgun sound*
Technically speaking, Titan has more loot than rend and dine. The problem is that the risk of failure is too high.
But, eventually, players are going to hit the cap quota possible with rend only, and then inorder to obtain a new wr players will need to start grinding titan.
Risk+luck+skill=wr
The two biggest problems are luck and unoptimized strats
Rend pays the rent.
Spanish guitar: The perfect mood accompaniment for a sprawling, abandoned, industrial moon.
a jester strat you can try is that jesters have slow turn speed. simply walking strafing left while rotating to face the jester will prevent him (50/50 chance honestly) from killing you. Using the circling method you can build sprint and dash to another area and continue the circling method until sprint fills up again.
that was patched i believe, bread himself said so
@@amruthchangappa version 47? Maybe some mod is bugging my run but it is definitely possible. I did it yesterday in two different instances. You just have to get the timing and spacing perfect.
I wish lethal company made it so like the item value would go up when the quota goes higher so you don't have to go tryhard on rend
The whole point is you eventually can't reach the quota. The only way to achieve this is to make items either stay linearly priced, or grow in price over each quota, but not enough to be sustainable.
@@ItsMoorbinTime true but it's an endless game so there must be a way for it to continue if enough skill is presented.
Maybe a very slight increase
this game isnt fully released yet. there most like will be an end goal then but for now the creator said hes focusing on replayability by adding more monsters, tools, etc.
@renaiky2652 yes you are right but if the game is ever to be endless then I prefer this than being impossible after a point
Really interesting to see you applying everything u teach us in your channel even in a moment of despair like trying to set coil in patrol mode again or trapping the jester. really good to see how it is used during gameplay.
the calm tunes and crazy titan chaos. Perfect
Rend is when you are serious Titan is when you are diddle fucking around
Me and my friend clutched so hard on rend today.
> 1 days left
> 651 as quota
> 100 woth scrap at ship
we really just ran into rend and like Got almost every scrap out of the facility.
+ we got our first Shotgun ever so thats dope
What a nice FNAF video
LOL youtube actually says it's FNAF
@@someone4229 thanks YT
It is fixed!!!!
we the people demand more fire exits on titan
Yeah would help and it would also make titan more tense because you split up and become alone. I also think that fire exits and main need to be guarenteed more spread out so you don’t find any right next to each other.
No
@@Dante-gf7cc why
The music is a nice touch to the vid 🤣
Which of the ice moons is best to repeatedly go to correlates directly with how many players are in the server. Dine is best solo, Rend is best in a 4 player game, and Titan is best with the funny mod.
Why do you say Dine is best solo? Genuinely curious
dine is not the best solo, infact its one of the ones that basically requires more people due to the absolutely outlandish amount of turrets and mines
Dine is utterly horrible solo
Dine is definitely not the best solo. In fact, Dine basically requires one person to stay at the ship because of all the turrets and mines. Titan is the best for solo play, because of the very short transfer time. Literally the only way to achieve really high quotas solo. Rend is also always gonna be better than Dine just because of the high Nutcracker spawn rate.
To be fair, maybe I don't have enough experience with it myself, but at the same time, no mimics, fewer ghosts girls, brackens, giants, and coil-heads, can't be stormy, I'm not saying it's easy but it is being compared to Rend and Titan here.
Super entertaining to watch experienced people go through near impossible situations. I didn't like the background music though, I thought it detracted from the whole video.
titan use to get us like 1.5k but ever scince the new rooms the loot was so scares near the entrences we switched to rend
I love the background music!
They need an interior exclusif to titan, other than the facility or mansion, because titan is the moon of trauma
best part of this video is the afro cuban groove whilst running from the coil
we are going titan on the next high quota run 😳🔥🔥🔥
No
Rend is better when both are in mansion configuration.
But when Titan is in factory, it is a high risk, high reward moon.
Dine is the hardest for me because giants always camp the entrances, same with dogs but dogs are easily averted and there's not many hiding spots to hide from the giant (after leaving the entrances)
Great vid! I liked the music but it was def too loud, I'd say it should be like half the volume so it stays in the background
“Just get better”
Yes
What mods do you use during your high quota runs that make it count as on the leaderboard? Thanks!
More items and shiploot, more items is there so they don’t have to play for 14 hours
There is no leaderboard it’s more of a collective agreement between the community. For example we use shiploot and more items like @doppss mentioned but that’s agreed as ok with Jimmy’s team who doesn’t use any mods. But jummy’s team could use apparatus clip or nutcracker cheese which we still respect and count even though we might not use it.
@@call_me_bread That's pretty neat! Yea, I stick with ship loot counter, and more items. But i also use HP mod to show how much you have. I plan on doing higher runs with buds eventually, so far I got 5.7k, and I've gotten use to Jetpack now. So, thanks so much for your videos! Would be interesting in the future to see agreed upon stuff of what counts and what not for leaderboard stuff, though. Like I run it in Pubs and sometimes peeps try to do cashier speed glitch, and i find it ruins the game for myself and our lobby, so i ban it.
How are you that good at dealing with a coil head dude youre crazy
Does that mean that, according to the chart at the end, Assurance and Offense are considered some of the better maps overall before you can go to Rend?
Yes :)
Rend meta for quota
Titan meta for having fun with friends by playing casual
”why we choose rend over titan?”
Rend is better
next question.
Titan runs got real silent after this one dropped.
Titan runs have been silent since v45.
maybe for people with pattern recognition@@co5micwaffle742
when dealing with coil heads sincd am moving so fast and my mouse is so cheap the mouse just spins on its own or jst kills it self for like 3 secs its a pain i need to replace it
Haha this Sims style background music in this video😂
Bro, any chance you will increase the bitrate? At 12:50 it is just tragic, looks worse than 480p in some videos.
It’s something with Twitch. I’m gonna try to remember to also record along with streaming.
I’m probably gonna be going out on a limb here, but I like Titan more than Rend. The main entrance and fire exit are nice and close to the ship, and you can drop items down to make bringing everything in a little easier. And if you’re in a pinch with dogs or giants, you can lure them up the staircase, then jump down with relative ease. Thoughts?
Counter argument: turrets
I just suck at the game, cant get past 1000 quota we go to rend because it has less enemies and somewhat similar to assurance just because alot of loot are close to the enterance
@@call_me_breadTurrets ain’t so bad honestly, you just gotta know where they are and move around them before they can shoot
id say experimentation is worse than titan.
I agree
You're the Iron Pineapple of Lethal Company
Man you just have to talk to the turrets fr fr make friends
But why not Dine as well ? The fire exit is more near to the ship on Dine than Rend. Moreover, the hazard level is the same and Dine costs only 50 more bucks than Rend.
My issue with rend is purely the outside. Sure, getting to main isn't an issue and I only get lost half the time when going for fire but expecially at night, the complete lack of visibility is frustrating to no end. Dogs you can sometimes avoid but I've gived up entirely on giants. I hear them, yeah, but I will never see them and got not even a single clue as to how to avoid them. If they see my I'm dead, if not I got lucky.
Putting someone on the roof of the ship to distract them works but is a rather boring job.
Meanwhile titan just has a staircase.
Mad entertaining vids
You should try red closet strat with the giants! I have never seen anybody else than me use it. But if you glitch throu the roof you can jump out of the ship almost everywhere.
Love the collab
Amazing music
Rend:
pro: gold bars, nutcrackers
Con: Main and fire exit is more far that my dad when he knews my mom was pregnant
For this reason i prefeer Titan, just buy an extension ladder and bring all that scrapt to the ship
Whenever I've tried to go for high-quota Titan has a higher ceiling but because of the excess enemies & lower item density runs just end up failing all the time. I think it could work better with MoreCompany and a ton of players coordinating & marking paths, but for 4-player vanilla it just can't match Rend.
Dine in theory shouldn't be much different but whenever I've tried it's always gone worse, maybe the different enemies affect it or something
more powerlevel inside and outside
lots of turrets instead of guaranteed 0 in rend
lots more mines
all that for what, 4 more scrap? but also 10%nut chance instead of 25% so you loose out on ALL THE SHOTGUNS
oh you want a moon that makes it so its difficult with a good loot hmm yes embrion but in all seriousness being able to hit artifice second quota duoing with a friend has got to be the most nice thing in terms of collection
That graph at the end also proves once and for all that Assurence is objectively better then March
8:31 i accidentally did that glitch with a thumper the other day, confused me so bad😂
With smaller crews I would rather Titan, but if you have a big crew then rend/dine is a great option.
loaf indeed
i mean if you get 4 players on cocaine i think its possible to loot everything out from Titan
this was in UA-cam’s Fnaf categoty
You finally played with Jimmy! 🎉
Turrets cost time to circumvent, time = money, turrets + mapsize = less profit = death of run.
is this tropico 5/6 music?
Title:
Just to suffer.
The mansion layout is just more fun.
Another argument in do not see in comments. We can trap Jester and coil on manor
Tooo much music noise dude
Yo this FNAF game goes hard, but frfr this was fun to watch live.
I personally prefer rend due to nuts spawn rate and generally unorthodox set of mobs
Game: Five Nights at Freddy's
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basically titan is only better than rend if you're going solo,and dine is just shit.
Facility maps are just awful when they are large. You can run around for so long while finding no loot. The dark tunnels are miserable as well.
hello i am a big fan of you but i know that jimmi the duff is doing like a day challange you probaly already know that but i wanted to know if you can ask him to do a challange where he can only loot 1 moon per quota wheneveh he wants and sells like normal.
6:30 Wait are silent landmines actually a thing ?
@@itzwaluigitime8678 nah
@@call_me_bread thancc
Rend is the new Meta
You have a link to the video? 12k seems like impossible
ua-cam.com/video/tCSUqN1YGb8/v-deo.htmlsi=rmYU6jHlLInwnjOS
bred
One time we got a little over 1k from rend and it was insane
i love your vids, but what is this music xd
I was there
Titan is pretty fun but it’s not nearly as practical or consistent.
Well actually vow is the best because potatoes can spawn there
what is the music on the video it is fire
Bought it from some guy on the street (weird that the file size was 80GB)
do you know what is the style of the music called?@@call_me_bread
skill issue
Music isn’t necessary for these highlight videos also buff titan too ez
titan should have 1 turret for every dollar of loot
☠
rend brain got y'all not used to a couple critters to deal with. school issue tbh
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Someone is stalking me through the comments on your video I'm in immense dange
They’re in your walls
bread
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loaf
do u have vods? u should..