@@thales7099 so because she does the skill... does that justify her _not_ performing it to her full capacity during the actual _competition_ where she is _representing_ her _country?_
@@thales7099 Didn't I predict she was only gonna be at her _best_ in podium training?... I'm betting she's gonna be sub-par for team & qualifications and make a miraculous recovery when she chooses to. Please don't delete this comment.
Shame about Kovacs. She’s one of Hungary’s finest. I was so happy for her to get a spot after her comeback from injury. I hope this isn’t the end of her Olympic journey.
I think it's pretty sh*tty to use Simone's Tokyo experience as "clickbait" to try to get people to join your paid subscription. You said that "suddenly" during Simone's practice, "something happened," and "we were all like, oh God, is this Tokyo all over again?" Then you said, but this is where we say goodbye to the general public and then do the deep dive for our Club Gymnerd members. I think that is disrespectful to Simone and is hardly what I would call journalism. And then it turns out that the thing that "suddenly" happened was that she talked to the team doctor and left the arena and came back. I say shame on you for trying to sensationalize a nothing situation to get people to join your paid subscription.
Talk about misguided. If you knew anything about Gymcastic you would know that they care about all gymnasts and have always advocated to make the sport safer and better. They are respectful and supportive and never share information that they are privy to without the athletes consent.
@@pbdl476 I didn't say Jessica didn't have consent to reveal what she did (but did she?). I'm saying she shouldn't have basically said, OMG it's a repeat of Tokyo followed essentially by, if you want to hear this, you have to pay. Simone has had enough people use her story to get clicks. I didn't think Gymcastic would use it to try to get paid subscribers.
Gymcastic ALWAYS leaves a cliffhanger like this at the end of a video in order to promote their club membership. They do it all the time. It's unfortunate that they did it about Simone this time. I know people always try to use Simone Biles as click bait. But this is just a common transition to their club membership option. It wasn't meant to be that serious.
I'm not saying that I agree with the logic, but what I think is happening as far as the skill evaluation and the progression of difficulty between a double double off beam and Yurchenko triple full is that with the double double off beam, you legit break your neck if something goes catastrophically wrong. With the TTY, most likely the worst thing that's going to happen is you're going to blow out your knee tear both ACLS or break an ankle or something. This difference is life-ending as opposed to career ending.
Normal, a Rebeca nasceu na favela e passou a vida inteira com as pessoas dizendo que ela não era capaz, isso foi o combustível que fez dela a primeira brasileira campeã olímpica na ginástica artística, conheço sua história e sua luta, na hora que todos duvidam ela vai lá e faz ! Você acha mesmo que se ela não estivesse pronta, ela enviaria o salto para pontuação ?
I don’t think she’ll 🇧🇷do it either. Why risk injuring her ACL again? Simone’s 🇺🇸vault difficulty will still be higher, so why would she risk it, other than getting it named the “Andrade.” Too risky, unless she’s been landing it consistently and just hasn’t posted her actually landing it. Also, her twist needs to get all the way around, 3 times. If she does it, that will be awesome, as long as she doesn’t get hurt. That would be devastating.
The Amanar and Cheng were downgraded too much, in my opinion. I think the vault Ds should be should be: DTY 5.2 Tsuka double 5.4 Amanar 5.6 Yeo 5.8 Cheng 5.8 Tsuka 2.5 - 6.0 TTY 6.0 Biles I 6.2 Prodanova 6.4 YDP 6.4
That's literally the same net difference from DTY to Amanar to Cheng. You just increased the yurchenko and Cheng style all by 0.2. An upgrade with selectively upgrade Amanar and Cheng more.
Exactly. My issue is not as much with the net difference between specific vaults, but with the D scores for the more difficult vaults relative to the difficulty across all the other events.
I believe Jade will do well in qualification. By Saturday, she will focus on competition more than Brain Carey's sickness. She's literally like to play around in podium training for a long time. She did the same downgraded routine and tripped her last pass at Oly trials this year. And Jade knows how to bounce back.
I think if she was off that's why. Liukin is absolutely not a valid replacement for Brian Carey. I hope he's well enough to attend team quals and beyond
I watched a live stream of Team USA podium training at 3:00 am California time and participated in a live chat. Simone’s first vault, omg! Hezly seemed like she needs more confidence. She can do it! She made the team for a reason. Jade, ya; I understand she was worried about her dad but didn’t look focused at all. Jordan and Simone, awesome. But what is that little straddle (still) on Simone’s toe full on bars (every time)??
I know this is picky - but how in the world does the USOC or USAG not spend the money to find out what mattresses the athletes like the best and then purchase them in the right size for the beds, and put them on a cargo plane to go with the athletes when they go to Paris? When France says things will be eco-friendly, that's a pretty big red flag that you need self-sustainment for comfort, convenience, food, etc. Logistics logistics logistics. Logistics are for professionals.
Do you know how many olympians there are? The beds are to minimize waste. Have you ever seen the abandoned olympic villages/arenas in the past? It's crazy. Also this is not a decision from France, it is a decision of The whole International Olympic Committee. The host country does not make al the decisions. This probably will stay a thing in the future, there are already mattress toppers on it. Some people will not sleep good on it others will, but this is better that only some athletes buy different mattresses (less waste) than if they need to provide it for every olympian in the village.
@@YUjjOi Don't care how many Olympians there are. I care about the US Olympians. I don't care about the abandoned areas - France wanted to host and France will have to deal with it. I don't care what the IOC says but the host country makes a lot of decisions. We are there to win. Sleep is important. Every single item brought there can be donated once the Games are complete. There is only waste if people let it go to waste. There are thousands of poor in France and elsewhere that would love a new mattress that was used for about 2 weeks by an Olympian.
Maybe it's because I'm a scrappy Romanian Scorpio who would do anything to win...at least anything Bellu told me too... give or take, but I believe that Shoko got pulled for something besides the smoking and drinking thing. I'm wondering if maybe she actually had a positive test for trimetazidine or something and they're using this as an excuse to make it look like their standards are pure as the driven snow.
The real problem is individual medals. Usa is not as strong as it used to be individually and other countries now have really competitive athletes in each aparatus that could easily sweep the podium
@@sumsumcorda8 ummmmm what are you talking about lolz?? How are other countries going to sweep individuals when we have the 1st and 3rd best vaulter, then we have 2 beam workers that could get silver or bronze (just depends on how strong others hit), bars we absolutely have chance for a medal with Suni, and floor we have 3 of the best in the world though I'm thinking it will be Simone Gold and Jade bronze. So please explain yourself lolz
Ela é o acontecimento. Quer você queira ou não. A própria Simone Biles disse que ela é a única que lhe causa medo. Atualmente a Rebeca Andrade é uma das mais queridas. Lide com isso e traduza. 😊
People should let this dream go at least from this Oly. When she dropped the skill, she hit most of her routine. It's never good when she did it in competition. Hitting is more important than D score on bars. There are so many 50% hit bars this year.
China hasnt medaled in a team FINAL in how long? They are EF teams, they aint putting pressure on anyone with their 1980 level vault and floor.You are in so many videos saying CHINA has some big chance of WINNING OR MEDALING IN A TEAM FINAL... gurl have a seat!
@@adreamcometrue4555 Ludicrous ... If everyone would do the same elements gymanstics wouldn´t be the beautiful sport that it is ... And I am not talking about the gymnasts ... I am talking about FIG. You do not need an excuse to be rude and unreasonable with gymnasts from other countries!!!
Jade did a pretty good job today. She is a solid contender for vault and floor. If this was her having a “bad” day she could still be top 20 in the world. Chiles SLAYED. but her lip liner was very thick and kinda off on the bottom lip which mad her look like a bootyhole. She kept puckering her lips and it look like someone pooping. Suni definitely wants an All-Around medal and is using every second she has to figure out the best route to landing on the podium. Simone was great no complaints. Hezly might be a bit of a disappointment. I think her bars were pretty good, that will might be her best place on this team lineup if she outscores Chiles, but I don’t quite see her being needed anywhere else and her performances were rough. I am also concerned about her form, her dismounts and vaults were very crunched and I worry the WOGA back break is near. If she wants a chance at 2028 maybe she should go train with Suni and her coach that seems like a safe space.
She's not good yesterday due to news of her dad, but I believe she will be the Jade we are accustomed to in qualification. And she's literally like to play around in podium training for a long time. She did the same downgraded routine and tripped her last pass at Oly trials this year. But Hezly did a pretty good job yesterday. Her dismount has been a problem, and I just expect her to land with a big step and no more please.
Addiction is the illness. They are referring to the fact the news was reporting that due to the stress she has been HEAVILY relying on cigarettes to deal with the stress. She is addicted to the nicotine hit and under this amount of pressure she could not quit. Honestly Japan is too strict. Getting kicked ou for some cigarettes is crazy 🤪
@@quedotelancine1685 It still starts with a choice. Taking that first puff!! Over time, the body starts to rely on it and if it doesn't get it, it goes into withdrawal. I get that there is a psychological component to it, but if they hadn't started smoking in the first, it would be a non-issue!
@@SheridanCrane1974 choice are not the girl is addicted and needs to puff! 💨 🤪You must be from the USA. Many cultures around the world still have a smoking culture that isn’t frowned upon. Japan just recently because of the Olympics started discourage smoking and banned it in certain public spaces. It’s like the USA in the 20s where even kids had a ciggy every now and then. Haha. Either way let the girl have her newports and still compete!
"Tobacco use disorder, also known as nicotine addiction, is an illness that can result from using tobacco products." This is why Japan's rules are so bad. No wonder some Japanese questioned if there were spies from foreign countries to report Shoko🤔These stupid rules can easily let others sabotage their athletes.
Aparently now, Simone is submitting a weilier kip 1.5! ❤❤❤
I saw this today too!!!!
Me three!
And it's reported she performed it on podium training !!!! How did these guys miss it? Was it thought she did it by mistake????
Eu amo Rebeca Andrade ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?! I'VE BEEN LOOKING EVERYWHERE FOR YOU! I'll calm down, thank you for coming back. I've always loved you
My take from the day: THAT STUCK YDP! and her stuck landing on beam! she's on FIRE!
Oh course she stuck those landings during _podium_ training where _she_ gets all the glory and not her _country._
@@mychelle446 because she does the skill not the country, she submitted it, it's her, i will compliment her, thanks.
@@thales7099 so because she does the skill... does that justify her _not_ performing it to her full capacity during the actual _competition_ where she is _representing_ her _country?_
@@mychelle446 do you like , need help? I can send you some help numbers if you're struggling.
@@thales7099 Didn't I predict she was only gonna be at her _best_ in podium training?... I'm betting she's gonna be sub-par for team & qualifications and make a miraculous recovery when she chooses to. Please don't delete this comment.
Jade is very strong, ik she be all right! She is very strong mentally and psychically
Shame about Kovacs. She’s one of Hungary’s finest. I was so happy for her to get a spot after her comeback from injury. I hope this isn’t the end of her Olympic journey.
I think it's pretty sh*tty to use Simone's Tokyo experience as "clickbait" to try to get people to join your paid subscription. You said that "suddenly" during Simone's practice, "something happened," and "we were all like, oh God, is this Tokyo all over again?" Then you said, but this is where we say goodbye to the general public and then do the deep dive for our Club Gymnerd members. I think that is disrespectful to Simone and is hardly what I would call journalism. And then it turns out that the thing that "suddenly" happened was that she talked to the team doctor and left the arena and came back. I say shame on you for trying to sensationalize a nothing situation to get people to join your paid subscription.
Talk about misguided. If you knew anything about Gymcastic you would know that they care about all gymnasts and have always advocated to make the sport safer and better. They are respectful and supportive and never share information that they are privy to without the athletes consent.
@@pbdl476 I didn't say Jessica didn't have consent to reveal what she did (but did she?). I'm saying she shouldn't have basically said, OMG it's a repeat of Tokyo followed essentially by, if you want to hear this, you have to pay. Simone has had enough people use her story to get clicks. I didn't think Gymcastic would use it to try to get paid subscribers.
Gymcastic ALWAYS leaves a cliffhanger like this at the end of a video in order to promote their club membership. They do it all the time. It's unfortunate that they did it about Simone this time. I know people always try to use Simone Biles as click bait. But this is just a common transition to their club membership option. It wasn't meant to be that serious.
Will you guys be streaming live during the events??? I wanna watch with a friend lol
I'm not saying that I agree with the logic, but what I think is happening as far as the skill evaluation and the progression of difficulty between a double double off beam and Yurchenko triple full is that with the double double off beam, you legit break your neck if something goes catastrophically wrong. With the TTY, most likely the worst thing that's going to happen is you're going to blow out your knee tear both ACLS or break an ankle or something. This difference is life-ending as opposed to career ending.
Yeah!! You said good things about Jordan
Calling it right now, No way Rebecca does the TTY.
I just said the dame thing, i want to see it but we will see
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Normal, a Rebeca nasceu na favela e passou a vida inteira com as pessoas dizendo que ela não era capaz, isso foi o combustível que fez dela a primeira brasileira campeã olímpica na ginástica artística, conheço sua história e sua luta, na hora que todos duvidam ela vai lá e faz ! Você acha mesmo que se ela não estivesse pronta, ela enviaria o salto para pontuação ?
Others have attempted it, maybe it’s hers to claim.
I don’t think she’ll 🇧🇷do it either. Why risk injuring her ACL again? Simone’s 🇺🇸vault difficulty will still be higher, so why would she risk it, other than getting it named the “Andrade.” Too risky, unless she’s been landing it consistently and just hasn’t posted her actually landing it. Also, her twist needs to get all the way around, 3 times. If she does it, that will be awesome, as long as she doesn’t get hurt. That would be devastating.
Thanks for letting me know about Jade’s dad I was worried about him. Let Jade know we’re with her. Prays are started
Poor jade 😢
I love her so much
what happened?!
@@alannabrown4i think/hope they’re just referring to her being a little off because of her dad being sick today and missing podium training
Can't wait for Rebecca's vault
Which channel or app is best to watch gymnastics from the beginning to the end?
i use peacock!
The Amanar and Cheng were downgraded too much, in my opinion. I think the vault Ds should be should be:
DTY 5.2
Tsuka double 5.4
Amanar 5.6
Yeo 5.8
Cheng 5.8
Tsuka 2.5 - 6.0
TTY 6.0
Biles I 6.2
Prodanova 6.4
YDP 6.4
That's literally the same net difference from DTY to Amanar to Cheng. You just increased the yurchenko and Cheng style all by 0.2. An upgrade with selectively upgrade Amanar and Cheng more.
Exactly. My issue is not as much with the net difference between specific vaults, but with the D scores for the more difficult vaults relative to the difficulty across all the other events.
I believe Jade will do well in qualification. By Saturday, she will focus on competition more than Brain Carey's sickness. She's literally like to play around in podium training for a long time. She did the same downgraded routine and tripped her last pass at Oly trials this year. And Jade knows how to bounce back.
@KelsKingdom1 it won’t hurt her because Jade will still do vault and floor, which is what I expected
Poor Jade. Is her dad in Paris? And I was wondering why Liukin was offering advice to Jade.
Yes, he was sick and didn't attend podium training.
I think if she was off that's why. Liukin is absolutely not a valid replacement for Brian Carey. I hope he's well enough to attend team quals and beyond
Wondering why you guys ain't talking about the Chinese team at all...they are literally the favourite to win gold on beam and bars 😅
Agreed.
Because they only talk about their own favorites and are openly disrespectful AF to anyone that isn't their favorite.
We talk about them in the extended version, which goes on for another 45-ish minutes.
I watched a live stream of Team USA podium training at 3:00 am California time and participated in a live chat. Simone’s first vault, omg! Hezly seemed like she needs more confidence. She can do it! She made the team for a reason. Jade, ya; I understand she was worried about her dad but didn’t look focused at all. Jordan and Simone, awesome. But what is that little straddle (still) on Simone’s toe full on bars (every time)??
I know this is picky - but how in the world does the USOC or USAG not spend the money to find out what mattresses the athletes like the best and then purchase them in the right size for the beds, and put them on a cargo plane to go with the athletes when they go to Paris? When France says things will be eco-friendly, that's a pretty big red flag that you need self-sustainment for comfort, convenience, food, etc. Logistics logistics logistics. Logistics are for professionals.
Do you know how many olympians there are? The beds are to minimize waste. Have you ever seen the abandoned olympic villages/arenas in the past? It's crazy. Also this is not a decision from France, it is a decision of The whole International Olympic Committee. The host country does not make al the decisions. This probably will stay a thing in the future, there are already mattress toppers on it. Some people will not sleep good on it others will, but this is better that only some athletes buy different mattresses (less waste) than if they need to provide it for every olympian in the village.
@@YUjjOi Don't care how many Olympians there are. I care about the US Olympians. I don't care about the abandoned areas - France wanted to host and France will have to deal with it. I don't care what the IOC says but the host country makes a lot of decisions. We are there to win. Sleep is important. Every single item brought there can be donated once the Games are complete. There is only waste if people let it go to waste. There are thousands of poor in France and elsewhere that would love a new mattress that was used for about 2 weeks by an Olympian.
@@YUjjOilol provifing a good rest is paramount or at least it should be. Those beds look really unconfortable at plain sight
@@sumsumcorda8 they do, but we can’t feel them. Heard some athletes say they are shit and some say they are good 🤷🏻♀️
@@charlestoddsullivanforpres6628 of course you don’t care
There has to be way more to the Japan story.
I’m so confused. Did they say she was eliminated for smoking and then did Jessica say smoking is an illness? Huh?
Maybe it's because I'm a scrappy Romanian Scorpio who would do anything to win...at least anything Bellu told me too... give or take, but I believe that Shoko got pulled for something besides the smoking and drinking thing. I'm wondering if maybe she actually had a positive test for trimetazidine or something and they're using this as an excuse to make it look like their standards are pure as the driven snow.
FLAVIA ❤
If i am rooting for someone to have an indovidual medal besides suni, that's flavia
What happen to jade Carey dad he wasn't on the floor
Her dad was sick and took the day off.
@sallygreenfield6991 thanks. She was alittle off during podium training. The coaches were trying to help her. But she wanted her dad
There is a flu going across France at this moment....the worst, a summer flu, vomit in the heat and you already have a fever....
whene they will compete pls im from morocco
Women on Sunday, Men on Saturday
With Kovacs out, what does it mean for Zoja
I'm so excited 😭 keen to hear the BTS when I switch over feeds.
Hey pls someone explain waht happed with simmone at the end of the video?
Just here to hear your reaction to Simone’s stick 👀
Can Shilese fly and save the bars rotation i swear am getting nervous for team USA'S bars rotation
The real problem is individual medals. Usa is not as strong as it used to be individually and other countries now have really competitive athletes in each aparatus that could easily sweep the podium
@@sumsumcorda8 am having a bad feeling about team finals too I swear I wasn't feeling this way months ago
USA bars rotation is okay. They did 2 full set yesterday. Again, let’s see the hit rate for these difficulty on paper.
@@DoreenBwalya-uc8ve i know!
@@sumsumcorda8 ummmmm what are you talking about lolz?? How are other countries going to sweep individuals when we have the 1st and 3rd best vaulter, then we have 2 beam workers that could get silver or bronze (just depends on how strong others hit), bars we absolutely have chance for a medal with Suni, and floor we have 3 of the best in the world though I'm thinking it will be Simone Gold and Jade bronze. So please explain yourself lolz
They want Rebecca to be the new darling of gymnastics. She was overscored a lot at the 2023 Worlds. There I said it. Deal with it.
i agree!
I completely agree!
Ela já é a queridinha da ginástica! Apenas aceita!
Ela é o acontecimento. Quer você queira ou não.
A própria Simone Biles disse que ela é a única que lhe causa medo. Atualmente a Rebeca Andrade é uma das mais queridas.
Lide com isso e traduza. 😊
O choro é livre, dorme na pia !
So Suni can't do her Lee on bars because she didn't submitted it or it doesn't matter?
Maybe she can, but it would not be named after her? Not sure
If she doesn’t submit it, then it doesn’t officially have a difficulty rating. Were she to compete it anyways, it’d count for nothing.
i don’t think she cares for it and i honestly i don’t either i just want her to get gold in something rather than get anything named after her!
@@liceous thanks
People should let this dream go at least from this Oly. When she dropped the skill, she hit most of her routine. It's never good when she did it in competition. Hitting is more important than D score on bars. There are so many 50% hit bars this year.
Talent....unbelieveable what thry have sended to the Olympic absolutly in turne not talents
Smoking became a illness? like???
I think she was being sarcastic …
Addiction is an illness
Italy Italy Italy 🇮🇹
When did smoking become an illness...yes, an addiction but ridiculous BS to call it an illness
Addiction is a mental illness
No updates on China? Seriously? 😅They can get 2nd on medal table for women just behind US
China hasnt medaled in a team FINAL in how long? They are EF teams, they aint putting pressure on anyone with their 1980 level vault and floor.You are in so many videos saying CHINA has some big chance of WINNING OR MEDALING IN A TEAM FINAL... gurl have a seat!
Hezly???????
For MAG Double Piked Yurchenko and Triple Twisting Yurchenko have the same value... I wonder why would there be a difference in WAG...
Then Rebeca should try the double pike if the triple yurchenko is equally hard as the double pike
@@adreamcometrue4555 Ludicrous ... If everyone would do the same elements gymanstics wouldn´t be the beautiful sport that it is ... And I am not talking about the gymnasts ... I am talking about FIG. You do not need an excuse to be rude and unreasonable with gymnasts from other countries!!!
@@gabrielbarroscamargo1730 You are mad 'cause the double pike is 6.4
@@adreamcometrue4555 i bet you are american, of course
@@adreamcometrue4555 get over it
Jade did a pretty good job today. She is a solid contender for vault and floor. If this was her having a “bad” day she could still be top 20 in the world. Chiles SLAYED. but her lip liner was very thick and kinda off on the bottom lip which mad her look like a bootyhole. She kept puckering her lips and it look like someone pooping. Suni definitely wants an All-Around medal and is using every second she has to figure out the best route to landing on the podium. Simone was great no complaints. Hezly might be a bit of a disappointment. I think her bars were pretty good, that will might be her best place on this team lineup if she outscores Chiles, but I don’t quite see her being needed anywhere else and her performances were rough. I am also concerned about her form, her dismounts and vaults were very crunched and I worry the WOGA back break is near. If she wants a chance at 2028 maybe she should go train with Suni and her coach that seems like a safe space.
She's not good yesterday due to news of her dad, but I believe she will be the Jade we are accustomed to in qualification. And she's literally like to play around in podium training for a long time. She did the same downgraded routine and tripped her last pass at Oly trials this year.
But Hezly did a pretty good job yesterday. Her dismount has been a problem, and I just expect her to land with a big step and no more please.
Do you think Suni get AA gold again? I wouldn’t mind seeing Jordan win it.
@@tigertank06I don't think gold but I hope 🥈
@@joyfadele3104 NO.
@@tigertank06 Probably contender for Bronze after Simone and Rebeca
Smoking is an illness?!? get outta here! Its a choice people make.
Addiction is the illness. They are referring to the fact the news was reporting that due to the stress she has been HEAVILY relying on cigarettes to deal with the stress. She is addicted to the nicotine hit and under this amount of pressure she could not quit. Honestly Japan is too strict. Getting kicked ou for some cigarettes is crazy 🤪
@@quedotelancine1685 It still starts with a choice. Taking that first puff!! Over time, the body starts to rely on it and if it doesn't get it, it goes into withdrawal. I get that there is a psychological component to it, but if they hadn't started smoking in the first, it would be a non-issue!
@@SheridanCrane1974 choice are not the girl is addicted and needs to puff! 💨 🤪You must be from the USA. Many cultures around the world still have a smoking culture that isn’t frowned upon. Japan just recently because of the Olympics started discourage smoking and banned it in certain public spaces. It’s like the USA in the 20s where even kids had a ciggy every now and then. Haha. Either way let the girl have her newports and still compete!
"Tobacco use disorder, also known as nicotine addiction, is an illness that can result from using tobacco products." This is why Japan's rules are so bad. No wonder some Japanese questioned if there were spies from foreign countries to report Shoko🤔These stupid rules can easily let others sabotage their athletes.
@@quedotelancine1685 lol, because they don't need all the lung capacity when performing athletics!
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