RUTHLESS Execution Of The French Resistance's Enemies
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- During the Second World War, there were many executions that took place of those suspected of resisting the Nazis. But the French Resistance were one of the most effective elements to fight against the German occupation, but they had a very feared French enemy themselves. The Milice were the French Militia who were collaborators with the Germans, and they were assigned to fight the French Resistance. Battles erupted between the two, and there were assassinations and executions of high profile members of each side. But the Milice were known for their torture of suspected members of the Resistance.
However as the Second World War turned against the Germans, and the strength of the French Resistance increased, many members of the Milice sought to flee. Many were brought to trial and dozens were executed in many French towns and cities and some were shot on firing ranges, but others were sent to gallows. It was a brutal crack down of the Milice at the end of World War 2.
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In 1977 I was taking a Taxi to Nice airport and got into conversation with the elderly driver. He said he had been in the Resistance and showed me, as he drove, his card of accreditation. He was very forthright about his disgust at the actions of the Milice and French Police. He had lost many comrades at their hands. He said the day the War ended, rather than the few thousand locals actually involved in the Resistance, every other man claimed to have been an active member. He was rightly very scornful.
@newelllondon724 Well, that's very interesting. I had not heard of these scoundrels living out their miserable years in Mexico. My conversation started when the driver pointed out a plaque on a wall marking where several Resistance members were shot. They were all betrayed by the local Police who had tortured them to get more names.
Spot on! As the video narration implied and my own personal experience of French attitudes and culture growing up in Paris as a child, many French were in reality lukewarm to the many of the grotesque Nazis policies, especially the persecution of Jews. While large segment of French society was uncomfortable and ashamed of being occupied by a foreign German forces, they don't do much to resist this occupation, except for the few brave Marquis with a conscience and true love for a free, sovereign France. The taxi driver had every rights to be disgusted and angry of all these hypocritical French patriotism!
I am trying to wrap my head around how De Gaulle appointed Vichy leaders into the new government.
A French movie from the 1970s, titled "LaCombe, Lucien" treated this topic of French collaboration with the Nazis. It has English subtitles.
Excellent film, it treates as well the Résistence.
There is another movie from 1969 on the same topic titled “The Sorrow and the Pity”. Very good movie it’s more of a documentary.
@@alonzocalvillo6702 gracias.
Thank you.
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Watch “Hotel Terminus “ and you will see the differences between Resistance elements were often extreme. And the hated between groups continued until the people involved died in the 1960s and 1970s. Personal grievances were often acted out under the guise of political action. People never change. We should always be cautious that recruitment to larger causes are not just individuals trying to settle a personal scores.
I've always considered myself fairly knowledgeable about World War Two, until now. I had not heard about the Milice before watching this video...Thank You for the education.
I knew about the resistance...but have never heard about the Milice. Shire's The Fall of the Third Republic, i.e., the fall of France, is now online as a audiobook, it gives a detailed account of the political divisions at the top of the French government.
Yes unfortunately a significant number of French rebelled against their own country. That’s what socialism and communism can do and the French unions are a current day living example of folks who rebel against the best interests of France.
Never heard bout Milice til now?
@@suzyqualcast6269 Can't read English ?
@@heyhandersen5802William Shirer is a trash propagandist. Watch "Europa: The Last Battle".
This was very interesting and informative, I never knew of the Milice.
So you should learn a little about how WE suffered for libération of our country .
@@cc-di6ou I know how the French suffered for liberation.
ME TOO MY FRIEND. I NEVER HEARD ABOUT FRENCH MILICE, COLLABORATING WITH NAZIS.
Big Powerful Masculine French men (?) (most of whom were cowards or collaborators themselves) beating on defenseless French women is disgusting!
One didn't have to be French to seek retribution after war's end. The Danes, the Czecks and ruzzians were many times more cruel. At the end of the war, the Czecks killed several thousand German (Czeck citizens) men, women and children. There's video evidence from a person in a train w/ a movie camera. The Germans were to form a line on the side of a road and have their backs to the road. Czeck "men" w/ machine guns driving by in cars did their treachery. When it comes to the aftermath of WWII you have to reserve judgement to some degree.
Good work,the Channel islands traitors were the rich and powerful who were never held to account.That`s a subject untapped,a content winner
The REAL traitors to the British Empire were Churchill and his cronies.
Most of the Chanel Islands inhabitants were friendly to the germans aß were the why now seid hatred
Yeah, a lot of scores were settled after Liberation. Most were Milice, or Vichy or other stripes of collaborationists. Some were executed after a trial, although sometimes of the "Fair trial and first-class hanging" type. Some people were undoubtedly executed unfairly and were innocent of the charges. And some were just murders, a settling of personal scores, maybe over a lover or property or simply because they knew too much about something the murderer wanted concealed. As stated, a lot of Milice members joined just to have work, food, or to avoid getting shipped as slave labor to the Reich, opportunists who were likely of no actual use to the Nazis, if not outright members of the Resistance. There are recorded instances of Resistance members joining as a method of keeping track of what was going on and establishing a "cover", possibly even sabotaging things as the opportunity arose.
As much as I would hate to see anyone put to death for collaboration with the Nazis or for torture or murder, I must say that what goes around will come back around, sooner or later. Those who sow violence and cruelty will reap violence and destruction in the end. Thank you for this eye-opening video of a little- known chapter of WW2.
Except for the majority who got away without punishment.
@@bennyandersen7420
What goes DOWN comes around. You people are quoting old military isms and you need to get it correct if you're gonna use 'em. It's "what goes DOWN comes around". Geez.
I doubt if this is shown in France, do you wonder why?
I wish this on Putin!
Great video, thank you for sharing this information! It clearly shows how attaching oneself with the current powers will backfire eventually…
Always interesting to notice how the resistance movements, in different countries during the war, pretty much always started to be annoying for the Germans after the war was lost for them. It all was settled in the east, where tens of millions had to die to break down the German army.
Silly conflation and comparison. Eastern Front entirely separate.
Tell me: Given that you will not have heard of the Maquis en France... What do you know of the resistance movement in Yugoslavia, Greece (inc Crete), Czechoslovakia*, Norway, Holland, Belgium, Denmark... or even Germany itself?
Cite your sources.
It is never wise to posit on matters of which one knows nothing. That's why I never comment on soccer or crochet, for example.
@@robertcottam8824 I have read a LOT about the second world war. You have no clue about my knowledge . Why not adress my point? I am not saying that individuals in the resistance never did an impressive job. My point was only what mattered in the bigger picture. When the Germans had bled out, with millions of lost soldiers, on the Eastern front, then the efforts of the resistance movements started to be noticeable. But without the insane war on the Eastern front, the resistance would be peanuts for the Germans. Gestapo and SD were notoriously efficient in the 1940-43 period.
@@bennyandersen742
But you haven't made a relevant point. The activities of resistance groups are entirely separate to analysis of Barbarossa, in this instance, namely the French Resistance in particular -except insofar as you widened it to include partisans on the European mainland, generally.*
If anything you - albeit obliquely - strengthen my case for the importance of the resistance groups from 1940.
An holistic understanding of the war is vital. To achieve this, one must read extensively across a variety of subject-parts as well as (reputable) overviews. (You didn't cite ANY sources, by the way.)
Of course, reading everything is impossible. But you might start with a study of the number and quality of German units involved in the suppression of partizan activity (excluding Russia/Ukraine) in say, Yugoslavia and Greece... Hmmm.... Les Allemands might have found 'em useful - decisive - on the Volga.
If we drift further into 'if only', you may care to research the activities of say, 2nd SS Panzer Division (Das Reich)... Nasty bunch. Very, very good at fighting as well as massacring folk. I wonder why they were in Tulle - or Oradour-sur-Glâne - at a certain time, when they might have been elsewhere...
But I leave that to you.
But please don't downplay the enormity of both contribution and sacrifice made by irregular forces in what is now the EU.
Sorry for my earlier rudeness.
Best wishes.
*Sorry, too, for my appalling syntax. I'm knackered.
@@robertcottam8824 Well, relevant for some, since the smaller picture always is interesting compared to the bigger picture. Some people tend to exaggerate the significance of some events and downplay others. This has often been the case in my country. You don't win a war by blowing up some cars and ships. Especially not when the war is already won through massive battles on the Eastern front . Remember this, already in 41/42, after the battle of Moscow, the war was over for Germany. Many German officers have stated this. More people died on a single average day on the Eastern front than during the whole war in my country. I think it is a good point. The "resistance " was not the problem for the Germans, tens of millions of allied troops were.
@@bennyandersen742
Firstly, let me state that there will be few people who are more admiring of, and humble in comparison to the sacrifices made by the peoples of the Soviet Union.
I am sensible to - and not entirely opposed to your conjecture.
Thank you, too for your acknowledgement that 'small operations' contributed to the whole.
Obliquely - but respectfully - are you familiar with the paintings of Seurat? If you are, you may see what I mean.
Best wishes
*My mother's life-long wish was to lay a wreath at the foot of the 'Statue of the Motherland'. She did. I cried when I heard. It was done on the behalf of both of us.
Here’s the thing, you can do whatever you want but, don’t lose the war!
Or, in the case of 'Murca, don't start 'em. That way, you can't lose 'em.
especially if you are the baddies.
In WW2 France a large percentage of the police force were collaborators working with the gestapo against the French population. Few received the treatment they deserved.
It was far more complicated. High ranking policemen saved many people ( Jews) by making two folders for each suspect, one for always further information and the other one for their superiors.
Why was a communist, openly lesbian Jewish poet like Gertrude Stein allowed to live freely in Paris all throughout the German occupation with her lesbian lover without the Germans ever bothering her?
The only Jews that were deported were ones suspected or caught working against the Vichy French government or the Germans.
Those policemen were later involved with French war crimes in Algeria
@@antoinemozart243 No, it wasn't. And you already know that otherwise you would NOT have posted "It was far more complicated". OK?
@@johncrichton4341 I agree. I should have said : high ranking in the police made two folders to save their asses in any case. But , at the beginning (1940/1942) they were tools in the Vichy regime. All changed after 1942.
Read a book called the 'White Rabbit' years ago, It describes the dangers very well of being a member of the resistance and the danger of betrayal ...
They cooperated with the Germans only coming out in numbers to fight when the Germans were retreating, shame on them cowardly people.
Read it. It's a brilliant book
I think since everything is explained and repeated at least three times everybody will understand the content
There's a difference between collaboration and acquiescence
My Father was in Torch and the first battle he had was against the Vichy Troops guarding North Africa for the Nazis. They put quite a little tussle and killed a number of Allied troops. Big mistake. They smoked them and had no mercy.
Still you were ready to support Darlan.... you were just unreliable allies as you are still....
@@pierrerenard855 You supported Hitler. Who is unreliable?
In Italy, some returning soldiers were frowned upon near the end of the war. Not because of fighting but for giving up before the surrender. My grandfather went AWOL in Libya after the allies landed seeing the writing on the wall. He then stayed in Africa and waited till the surrender before returning home. He never got that military pension due to his quiting beforehand but immigrated in the 60s to work here in America.
Did anyone say War is NOT hell? Evil usually comes from the top, but many idiots will follow especially when in a mob or given power.
Its called rightwing populism or trumpism
@@Noneofyourb908trumpism in 1945???? Ancient alien time travelling
@@davidmt23 trumpism is compairable with that timespirits, same way of events, history repeats itself with this orange shitstain menace to soviety with nothing but fake news,- rhetoric, -fearmongering, - accisations, -businesses, republicans are going to say the same in a few years what German civilians said after the war : " ich habe es nicht gewust" = " i didnt know"......the devil has many faces.....
Covid lesson no.2
you can also make one about the schalburgcorp it was the danish version of this
All kinds of Europeans, including millions of Russians and Ukrainians, fought alongside Germany AGAINST communism during WW2.
Most French collaborated but suddenly found they were in the resistance when the allies landed.
Anglosaxon myths.
@@carlospargamendez7012 I would not say "most collaborated", but actual known active resistance members are on record as saying that a lot of people suddenly became resistance members after the liberation. I mean I can understand not joining up; most people did not. But lying about it was pretty despicable. Being Resistance was damned dangerous.
@@cammobunker Lying about it is like people today who are guilty of stolen valor.
The French soldiers were courageous at Dunkirk. There were lots of brave French people during the war. It is shameful to claim that they were cowards and we were brave . It shames us not them .
A shameful time for France.....
The milice had recruited heavily from convicts and used their position of power to accumulate quick wealth. This said, the liberation cleansing was also a good opportunity to get rid of personal enemies. Half the resistance forces were the communist party, too.
Le chef de la milice s'appelait Joseph Darnand et il était le soldat français le plus titré en médailles de l'armée française lors de la Première guerre mondiale !
Those thuggish traitors lived by the sword and justly died by it.
And so did the French resistance fighters. Moral equivalence ---and they deserved each other.
@@SeattlePioneer lol no
@@SeattlePioneer What an odd comment. I wonder if a doctor might help.
@@robertcottam8824 Americans always imagined that the people of the world have great choices they can make if they wish to do so. Just isn't so. Imagine someone living under the Nazis who has been starved for years probably had his family starving for years. The idea that they would become part of a lawful military force under the Nazis is perfectly reasonable. Simile Americans like to imagine that anyone revolting against Authority has must be virtuous. When in fact the actions of the French Resistance after the fall of the Nazis was in many ways just the equivalent of what the Nazis did as brutal as can be. That's why I can see a certain moral equivalence by each of those groups. That's the nature of War. It can corrupt everyone.
@@SeattlePioneer
I take your point.
But as one who advocates free speech at ANY cost, I find it hard to find moral equivalence between Nazis and their opponents.
Rough times.
Peace and Light to all souls in the French Resistance.
I'm having a hard time figuring out who the bad guys are and who are the good guys
It depends on what side you are on.
the French resistance -good. the Milice were collaberating with Germans so bad.
All is grey
You now understand the situation after the German troops pulled out.
Try thinking:
NAZIS = BAD; RESISTANCE to Nazis = GOOD.
HOLOCAUST = BAD; RESISTANCE to the mass deportation of French Jews = GOOD.
ORADOUR-SUR-GLANE = BAD; RESISTANCE to killing 600 women and children = GOOD
As rules of thumb, they're not too bad.
Во французском сопротивлении воевало меньше людей, чем служило в SS, а последними защитниками рейхстага были французские нацисты из дивизии SS Шарлемань.....
так это Гитлеру и оккупации Франции "спасибо" ))). Франция это единственная страна где антифашистский рабочий фронт НЕ ДАЛ ПРИЙТИ К ВЛАСТИ ФАШИСТАМ.
Ca n'enleve pas à celles et ceux qui se sont battu dans la Résistance ni leurs courages ni leurs sacrifices .Aussi peu étaient ils ont sauvé l'honneur de la France et permis de garder l'espoir d'une libération de la France de la barbarie nazi.
Qu'aurait on fait, nous, qui nous permettons de juger?
@@ailleurd Traduire s'il vous plaît.
@Dmitry_Popov
I don't write English very good.
The french resistants was maybe few, particularly in the beginning, but even few they saved the Honour of France and brought light in this darkness where all Humanity, Freedom, Civilisation seems to have disappeared.
The french SS Charlemagne was the last defender of Berlin and they was the same who burned all inhabitants of a small town, Ouradour sur Glanes in a church.
Was they french? They didn't even belong to the Humanity.
So to say, it was a very trouble time, and we can ask ourself what I would did at that time?
@@ailleurd Aujourd’hui, les Français font de même, en soutenant l’Ukraine. Et comme lors de la Seconde Guerre mondiale, seuls quelques Français soutiennent la Russie. Honneur et louange à eux, mais encore une fois, ils sont bien moins nombreux que les partisans du nazisme. Il y a beaucoup de choses à penser.
An awful lot of these people on film were not active members of the resistance during the war, but they were quick to put on armbands and parade around with guns shaving heads of defenceless women once the Allies had liberated their country.
"defenceless women ", sleeping with the enemy deserves a punishment, their male counterparts got far worse. Shaved heads? , their heads should have been in nooses
@@tomservo5007 Why? Pretty easy to sit in front of your keyboard and opine that everyone should have put their emotions, sorrows and loneliness on hold for 5 years of war. Would you also execute Allied soldiers of the occupation forces for entering into a relationship with a German woman?
That's true, the French resistance was very small in numbers, after D Day, when it was clear the alies were winning and pushing the Germans back, many thousands more joined once it was safer.
That is not meant as a detraction from the thousands of incredibly brave Frenchman who did fight and die right through the war.
Absolutely, many French switched sides as Germany collapsed and lied about their war time records.
@@throttlegalsmagazineaustra7361 many of these women pointed fingers causing people to be tortured and/or killed. Your analogy doesn't make sense. When you say 'occupation forces' is that before or after Germany's surrender?
At the march past in front of De Gaulle, one of the British SOE agents who had been working secretly in France for years, was introduced to him. De Gaulle told him to go home.
I'm sure there's more to that story. De Gaulle was kept out of many of the allied commanders conferences. His people of northern France got the crap bombed out of them and many innocent civilians got killed by allied bombing raids. De Gaulle was now in his own country, revered by his people and no longer had to endure the snobery of the British.
@@peterscarratt1288 Not supeinsing considering the way both British and US behaved with him until very late 1944….
The more I watch such of events of the second world war, the more I come to the understanding that the majority of people such as these Nazi collaborators, Concentration camp guards and SS members were driven by mob psychology. It was a matter of collaboration in order to get ahead with the situation at hand, in some cases it was a matter of do it or die....so it borders a very thin line between an act of necessity to survive and a deliberate wanton act of cruelty to another human being. It was really just a complete nightmare to be in such a situation, because many of you condemning the acts of the collaborators and perpetratos might have committed these same acts had you been in those situations.
True😢
@@paulawaite1600 😥
And Chinese mob in culture revolution, under Mao's proletarians spell. They ate their "enemys" guts and hearts. The record shows more than 5000 incidents occurred from 1967-1969
MAGA is just another Nazi
Reminds a great deal of the Liberals in America today.
I Never knew that there was such a big section of the French public who fought against the French resistance ,
It shows you how some people will be selfish and just look after themselves
Po
@@goldenhawk352 thank you
@@goldenhawk352What a ridiculous post. The French resistance numbered approx 220,000 French and were integral to the success of D-Day. If you neo Nazis are going to hide behind your keyboards, at least spend some time researching whatever false narrative you are trying to plant.
NOT TRUE. A rear guard detachment held off the Germans and fought almost to the last man making possible the English Expeditionary Force's escape from Dunkirk.
This is wrong. Those who fought against or for the collaboration were a minority. Proof ? De Gaulle asked the French during 1941 Bastille's day to stop working and doing anything during fews minutes. 90% of the population followed it.
There were also men who joined the Germans to fight the Russians as in the book On The Devils Tail. The author of this book ended up in Vietnam Also there were vendetta carried out against other French men and women old scores to be settled The French in the SS were of course the Charlemagne division.
We must also remember that the Resistance also murdered many Breton Language activists. They are far from being free of guilt
Si vous voulez parler des collabos. qui ont porté l'uniforme allemand pour pouchasser les maquisards ...bretons, c'est tout à fait exact.. Mais certains sont parti dans la division SS Charlemagne et d'autres ont fuit en Irlande... Bon débarras !
Strange the first people joining general de Gaulle at London are fisher men from ouessant island.
So for which reason brittons would have been purchased by the french resistance ? Could you tell us please ?
Those who remained in France gave To London many details about the Atlantic wall, canons , troops, uboot base , movement
Some Breton language advocates were killed. But not BECAUSE they were Breton language advocates.
Please don't conflate.
The Breton collaborators who were executed by the (Breton) resistance fighters were not executed because they spoke Breton but because they wore the German uniform and chased the Breton guerrillas.
It's not nice to lie!
@@JRos-qc6kw nor is it nice to spread French propaganda
What is the difference between what the French did to the Malice and what the Nazis did to members of the resistance ?
The victors write the rules of war.
The women in the picture near the start has been honoured as a French resistance hero, it was not fitting that you showed her picture when describing what the Militia did. I appreciate it might have just been coincidence.
A french legend !
Say what you like, but IMO it's better to be executed defending your country than to be executed as a traitor to your country.
part of the bitterness of the French was that they were ashamed they had given in to Germany quite quickly. After the war they were given a zone of germany as one of the "Victors" though no one believed this
A traitor is a traitor in any colour ...and a maggot will always be a maggot! May these ones never rest in peace!.
Quite. One can never forgive American 'treachery' in 1776.
Or have we?
Best wishes
And how would you describe a traitor? A baker who sold bread to the German or Milice garrison? A bar keeper who sold drinks to them, or a butcher who supplied them with meat? The vast majority of France never saw a German soldier. Was De Gaulle a coward or maggot for running away to the UK? Your comment holds no sense of the time and situation.
@@mercomania To me a traitor is someone who embodies the doctrine of the oppressor and knowingly and without duress turns his own countrymen in to the or abets the capture by the Gestapo. DeGualle's most logical thing to do was escape to the UK where he could oversee the ongoing development of the French Resistance and orchestrate allied forces eventual invasion. The established French government had collapsed so quickly France was in real political chaos. Avoiding capture, internment or death DeGualle's at least could play a role in resurrecting both military and political stability in France! Which he did!
@@michaelpoyntz774 Very nicely put, but in your answer you totally fail to address my point. Who actually decides who is a traitor? A man with a gun, who has for four years held a grudge against a baker who sells bread to the Milice or the German garrison, a man who is jealous of the farmer who sells his produce to the occupier? Your description is very poetic but bears nor relation to the scores, some petty and spiteful, that were settled in the late summer of 1944, without any court of law or actual charges being proven.
@@mercomania the French have a long history of settling scores after the fact. They also have a well earned reputation of holding grudges for multiple generations. To me a traitor is one who turns on his own countrymen in a vicarious way knowing that action will lead to personal harm and for some much worse will , even death. As to the butcher or baker types that facilitated the garrisons, I would never forget that happening and would simply never deal with that merchant again.
The Guillotine was used in France up until 1977 , why not guillotine the traitors instead ? , this would have been psychologically more traumatic than the firing squad for the members of the Milice .
Obviously if you don't kill them outright with "massive blasts of rifle fire"...
they get to suffer a little longer????
Firing squads on all sides of the war were standard for killing spies.
My Dad was there under Patten, and witnessed such events.
Patton was deeply saddened when he realized that the Germans were actually the good guys and that the US should have been fighting the Soviets alongside the Germans. Check out his diary and letters home to his wife and close friends. That's why Patton was assassinated by the OSS.
The women of france paid dearly for thier relationship with german soldiers ! Some were totally inocent ! But a lot of more serious collaboraters got away with it !
Coco Chanel for one
Many French women were easily compromised by the nazis while some were willing collaborators. Many served as lookouts for members of the Resistance and they were very successful at it. There's always enough treachery to go around in a war.
Some just needed medicine for their kids to survive.
The 33rd Waffen SS Grenadier Division Charlemagne was formed before 1944 and consisted in the main by volunteer members of the LVF (Legion Voluntaire Francaise). It fought bravely on the Eastern Front and was some of the last defenders of Berlin. General Le Clerk had several members murdered in Berchetsgaden in 1945 when he asked why the wore German uniforms and the laughed at him for wearin an American uniform.
General Le Clerc. Berchetsgaden was hitler's mountain retreat. As usual, there is the essence of truth to your comment however, 12 French Waffen SS were presented during the liberation of the Dachau Concentration Camp, at Karlstein, Bavaria, 8 May 1945.. They were asked why they wore the Waffen SS uniforms (the nazi Black Uniform) and one of the defiant prisoners yelled back why was Le Clerc wearing an American uniform. Le Clerc said "...get rid of them!" Many allied soldiers had summarily excuted Waffen SS at the concentration camps out of revenge. The Waffen SS were a different breed from the German Vehrmacht army. If you were there, smelling the burning bodies from the ovens, seeing the naked bodies piled high, and confronted with a dozen French men in nazi SS uniforms, literally with blood on their hands, how would you react? In the moments of war there's always enough brutality to go around.
So laughing at a French General dressed in a US uniform being driven around in a US Jeep warrants summary execution. You are poorly informed about the SS. There were two separate branches of the SS, the Allgemeine SS and the Waffen SS. Now due to your lack of knowledge regarding this, you claim the Waffen SS supplied the concentration camp guards when in actual fact it was the Allgemeine SS. The Waffen SS was a purely a military force with German, French, Dutch, Norwegian, Danish, Estonian, Latvian, Lithuanian and Ukrainian volunteers. The 33rd Waffen SS Grenadier Division was made up of French volunteers some of which were the last defenders of Berlin. After the war the volunteers from Elsass were granted immunity as the French did not want the publicity of Frenchmen in the SS. Your excuse rings hollow. @@murrayhill9000
@@murrayhill9000oh come on Spielberg! The dead bodies that were there died from typhus during the last weeks of the war, "ovens" aka crematoriums are in EVERY town in the West and Waff€n-$$ soldiers had NOTHING to do with guarding camps! It was SS-Totenkopfverbaende men and women that worked in the camps, completely different than the Waff€n-$$. Also no Waff€n-$$ man would have been wearing a black uniform as those were only parade uniforms. They would have been wearing camouflage or field gray uniforms
It appears than in WWII France, French civilian collaborators were as thick as flies, and it was not until the allies were advancing into France that these French traitors had a change of heart. Fear was a great motivator during and after the German occupation. Self-preservation at the expense of fellow citizens has never been so rare anywhere in the world.
some of the french Waffen SS (like Henri Fenet retired in Netherland ) receive an allowance from the Bundes Republic
You will note that General Patton, who governed Germany for a time after the war, deceed that only the very top Nazi decision makers would be prosecuted. The reason was he was obsessed with Russia and communism taking over Europe and he did not want to destabilize Germany by gutting its government institutions, especially the military. As a result, many men who should have been tried for war crimes got away with it.
It's certainly a travesty of Justice. I have no idea how the Dutch were able to accept a SS member in their country.
Vive la Resistance!
France sent 45000 troops to fight Australia in Syria and Lebanon in a repugnant act of collaboration. They were defeated and sent back to France at the point of Australian bayonets to prey on their own under the command of General Dentz who had surrendered Paris to the Germans.
The story is more complex than that, the troops in the Middle East (Syria, Lebanon) remained loyal to the French state of Marshal Pétain. The country was cut in two, there were collaborators and those who were with De Gaulle in London. The only wrong of France is not having in 1936 during the recovery of the Rhineland by Hitler crossed the border to oppose it. As Great Britain did not want to support it, General Gamelin refused to act. In 1935 this one signed with Germany a naval agreement to increase the tonnage & the German naval armament without speaking about it to France (we were allied). As a reminder, the Munich agreements following the behavior of Neville Chamberlain vis-à-vis Hitler and the problem of the Sudetenland were for France like a formal notice. Great Britain and the United States when Hitler came to power in 1933 posed no problem for them. Business as usual.
@@christiandubois1578 Erm, I’m merely pointing out the repellent character of the French who went to war with enthusiasm against a country they claimed to be allied with.
@@seanlander9321. After WWI states & UK did not want the Treaty of Versailles too restrictive against Germany. They wanted to resume business with her. In the 1930s Britain wanted to keep business going. France wanted her safety on the Rhine. We didn't have the same interests.
@@christiandubois1578 Itrelevant in terms of Australia who was defending France’s interests in The Pacific for instance when no other country would. It was the determination of the French to attack an ally that still today is inexplicable. No regrets from France who will always find an excuse rather than an apology for collaboration.
@@seanlander9321 If you refer to the Japaneses, Australia was not defending France interest but very much its own...
In syria France was defending its empire, had it not France would have violated the armistice treaty by the fact of siding with Germany's enemies, the consequence would have been harsh retaliation against France and its population.
It is always forgotten but throughout the 30' and even before, the Anglos Saxons had been pretty lousy allies who literally pushed France under the bus. Even though all the French hated the Germans, in 1940 and even later British leaders were perceived by their French peers like those friends who shamelessly stab you in the back to better their lot.
It's exactly that I try to tell to my Collegues in my Job.
But they absolutely don't want listen this fact and ... they hate me for this Testimony.
I thought the French resistance was largely ineffective. Whereas Tito's partisans in the Balkans were very effective because they didnt care about local reprisals.
The narrator has switched from horrific to ruthless in his captioning.
Ce que vous voyez , à Paris, ne sont que des résistants de la dernière heure, en grande majorité ! La vraie résistance était en province et dans les campagnes ! Merci aux anglais, d'avoir traité ce sujet douloureux , pour les français !
The actual numbers of French Resistance who were actively involved was miniscule, yet at the liberation of Paris somehow the streets were full of these men and women who's heroism was so secretive nobody even knew of their exploits, not even the Germans.
There were a few truly heroic brave men and women who faced torture and finally death when caught, and those others besmirch their heroism.
"Throughout France, the Free French had been of inestimable value in the campaign. They were particularly active in Brittany, but on every portion of the front we secured help from them in a multitude of ways. Without their great assistance, the liberation of France and the defeat of the enemy in Western Europe would have consumed a much longer time and meant greater losses to ourselves."
Dwight D. Eisenhower's comment in his military memoir, Crusade in Europe.
French "resistance" = savage subhumans. The Germans were too lenient to them until too late.
@@daniellobo625 Are missing some neuronaux connexion ?
“Took you long enough” - Paul Kellerman😢
Even now, the French are not liked by the British, we liberated them & let Degaul lead a parade through Paris, the French still don't like us & treat us with contempt, they show no gratitude towards our country, or the soldiers who died liberating them.
De Gaulle, not 'Degaul' (sic).. The French do recognise and celebrate their liberation every year, in Normandy and elsewhere. The French resistance was a huge operation during the war. Whilst most civilians had no choice but to go along with the brutal Nazi occupation, that didn't mean they supported it.
France was rescued by the Americans and British Commonwealth troops and despise the English!
the English who liberated what? are you talking about those who abandoned the French and fled to Dunkirk ?
@@Jomaraa And came back because the French catapulted to the Germans because they did not want Paris bombed
@@Jomaraa The people who wasted resources on the french yellow bellies!
Quand on voit ce qu'on a aujourd'hui.....y a se quoi qe poser des questions
Ahh yes the French, perhaps a video of how they willingly rounded up their Jewish citizens for the Nazis to dispose of in a neat and tidy manner would be appropriate.
You sound like a typical brown coat.
Us French learn about this at school. We remember and we're ashamed.
This happened in all countries the Nazis occupied.France was no exception.
Same
🇫🇷 is a beautiful country, only the population is, was and remain shit.
Gives me hope for America
+1 Traitors still seem to have way too much privilege in America. Mercy and nazi dont go together well for humanity.
@@ccrider3435
Ah come on. We know that Trump is to Putin as Laval was to Hitler but execution? Civilised countries just don't DO capital punishment anymore.
It is easy to have hope when you live in a country with weak neighbours or on an Island.
It should be realised that in 1942-3 it was possible that France would enter the war on the sdie of Germany. The story is not as simple as this implies.
France was on the side of Germany in 1942-3! Don’t you know that the Americans in N. Africa were fighting against the French in the early part of the conflict?
@@resolute1306 The Vichy French. Even today, we have American Republicans reaching out to a ruzzian dictator. Go figure.
There was some repetion in the narrative. Do you write scripts. Also Dijon is not in Spain, so it should be pronounsed to rhyme with legion
It's was a French civil war. Action Francaise vs what became the French communist party post-war
Petainiste, Milice- not only Communist adversaries.
These 12 years when they were free...
la fin de la guerre en France à été horrible !
La fin horrible? Alors il n'y a plus de mot pour le début et le milieu !
what language / dialect is this ??
I'm impressed when you pronounce French names -félicitations 🐸
Sure there were traitors , but some with families were blackmailed or forced to do things to save the lives of their offspring . One could be to quick to judge . You need to dig deeper as to the reasons why people did what they did . War is not pretty and takes in everyone , even those who don’t want to have any part of the conflict .
Correct, plus there was a lot of finger pointing by some to cover their activities during the occupation.
Bravo. A voice of reason and the enlightenment to see the bigger picture. In the aftermath of WWII, there was enough treachery to go around and one didn't have to be French to seek retribution. The Dutch, Danes, Italians, the Czechs and the ruzzians were equally cruel. The brutality against German-Czech citizens at war's end where thousands of German men, women and children were shot to death as they tried to return to Germany is one of the worst atttrocities of the war's aftermath, with the exception of the ruzzian slaughter of the Polish army.
99% of France went along with Occupation
Bullshit. Move on.
And they would do so today.
@@garyrothwell1914
At the risk of ad hominem, one wonders if you possess an intellect - let alone any factual knowledge, whatsoever.
The history of France is as long - et de trés-plus compliqué que l'histoire Anglais.
You might start with Cobham's excellent - and readable - history. Forgive me if I underrate you. (Maybe you read en Français as well as you read English*) But it would be a start.
Best wishes.
*A less kind person might express doubt, concerning your reading ability, in general.
@@robertcottam8824 Robert you are throwing around terms like "ignorance," yet you are then ignorantly stating France's history is more "complex" than that of England, when no country has more of a complex history than another. You are just making a bigoted and chauvinistic claim. You are also referencing an author who wrote little shallow unacademic books on a number of coutnries and died long *before* WWII -- in a discussion of WWII. Now France has a lot of interesting history and culture , much of it admirable -- but NOT WWII. France was a primary cause of WWII with their draconian measures at the end of WWI which lead to rise of Hiller. And when WWII broke out the French military was inept and not courageous. Also the communist French left, which became the backbone of the "resistance" was pro-Hilter when Hitler and Stalin joined together as allies to start WWII.
@@teo2975
Hahahahahaha!
Talk in a bit. Listening to Wonderful recording of Xerse. Next act about to begin..
Ssshhhh!
Interesting
Apparently everyone was in the Resistance
And apparently in your country everyone was a soldier
@@jeffkodiac we never claimed that - but we as a Nation fought it - in one way or another
@@chrisbaxter3597 and in France we never claimed that all the French were resistant , so stop your bs . And for your information France have the most successful military history .
@@jeffkodiac Three words for you - Agincourt , Trafalgar and Waterloo
@@chrisbaxter3597 Three words for you too Hastings , Castillon , Beachy head .
At the end of the war, in Italy, no one was a fascist, while in France everyone was from La Résistance
the difference between Italian and French resistance. the Italian resistance fighters shot their traitors. So once justice has been served, we move on. the French civilian resistance fighters who waged war in place of their army waited for the judges and the state who had collaborated to judge their friends. the traitors were never punished and released. so the resistance fighters and the left spend their time treating others as collaborators when they could have eliminated their enemies. and it continues today, they expect everything from the state.
@@fastsheep3964 I had a good friend from Veneto who told me terrible things about his time of resistance. The Nazis were exceptionally cruel to them because they were supposed to be allies, he said that death was a constant companion, and he, at a very young age, had no hope of reaching old age. Something he reported that struck me as exceptionally cruel was the fact that he himself had killed many innocent people, simply because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time, no matter what uniform they were wearing.
Fought when the USA showed up.
French soldiers died in droves to allow for the British to evacuate in Dunkirk. And many joined De Gaulle in London. you dunno what you are talking about
@@ferdinandsiegel4470 How he can in 1916 Brits were knock out on la Somme, in 1940 not better than us without the Channel. As per the US Kate comer in 1917. In Europe war started for them in. 1944…. What kind of lesson the Superman can be….
I don't want to be smug or anything. But didn't the French government officially capitulate in June 1940? From then on by international law the resistance fighters were criminals, actually, traitors to France. I'm not talking about the moral side of things just purely from a theoretical point of view concerning international laws at that time. Or am I wrong here? I'm fully aware that one's side terrorists are the other side's freedom fighters. And what is the de jure situation of the French soldiers fighting as a French army on the side of the allied power? They served a government under de Gaulles who was not really the head of state but in all honesty "just" a colonel who declared himself to be the head of state. Can it be argued that these soldiers were in fact both traitors to France and did not fall under the Geneva convention since they were no official army?
I don't mean to offend anybody, I'm just curious about the international law in this case. Maybe somebody can explain that to me?
You are 100% correct!
Legally and technically you are right but that's not how things worked in 1940. Because the fight was against the Nazis these legalities were overlooked. It's happened many times since in history. Best examples being Iraq and Afghanistan.
The Vichy Republic was set up on August 10th in Vichy from members of the National Assembly who voted to give Gen Petain full executive power, thus terminating the Third Republic. Failing to get this policy ratified by the general public, subjecting that decision to popular plebiscite.
Without such democratic authorisation - as any change of governance would demand. The institution of the Vichy regime had no legitimacy (in law), so could not or expect any protection from the law.
Thus, as a consequence, De Gaulle - with his government in exile and acknowledged as such by all the international allies (giving protection of international law). The Vichy government and supporters could expect (on defeat -which came) no mercy or protection from the law, as they were in power without legal legitimacy.
So to hell with all those who assisted in any way shape or form the fascists that initiated such degradation and tyranny on France and its people.
Tissu de mensonges. L'histoire est écrite par les vainqueurs n'est ce pas...
The French were in the main a nation of collaborators. They surrendered without putting up any resistance , this large French army . Shameful
True, they only had a little more than two hundred fifty thousand soldiers killed and four hundred thousand civilians dead....
The French people didn't want war with Germany. It was some French leaders and Churchill that dragged France into the war.
And the Western Allies were responsible for nearly 90% of the French deaths in WW2 not to mention the overwhelming majority of destruction to French cities.
So, were the British. The British Expeditionary Force tasked with defending the Ardennes sector fled without firing a shot.
And the French started with a bigger, better equipped army and air force.
I imagine having part of WW1 western front in your country, leaves a long scar.
But frankly, I don't think France has ever really recovered from the French Revolution.
I.m sorry. It’ not true.
Ndomt mess with the french. Remember the french revolution. Those folks dont forgive or forget.
The resistance was most upset about being made to work an 8-hour day.
Ok
it is known that Jewish hatred was considered the worst in France, far over that in Germany. So there were citizens that glad to persecute the Jews they despised. Also the Nazi's often used the local police to round up Jews, one of the worst instances being in Hamburg Germany where the police were praised for their efficiency in hounding out all Jews.
Spielberg lies
@@arminiusdergrosse You lie
La France a été occupée totalement fin 1941. Vous n'avez pas eu votre pays occupé par une armée étrangère ,donc votre vision d'anglais ou américain ou australien n'est pas du tout la même. Voyez vous, les miliciens avaient une idéologie pro européenne comme les nazis, les fascistes. La LVF (milice) a été en totalité exécutée, souvent sommairement.
Il faut bien comprendre que l'armée Française a reçu l'ordre d'arrêter le combat en mai/juin 1940. Les Anglais dans leur fuite vers Dunkerque ont été protégés par l'armée Française sur le parcours qui allait à dunkerque, mais ceux ci ne purent pas partir. Nos soldats (2,1 millions) furent fait prisonniers ou de retour chez eux vendus par l'état et les états majors.
D'autres furent obligé au STO , certains ce sont enfuis et entrèrent en résistance ou simplement dans l'ombre. En France il n'y avait pas de parti nazi ni équivalent . les premiers résistants qui suivirent De Gaulle étaient juifs, royalistes ou de droite. Ce sont les députés socialistes, radicaux qui votèrent les pleins pouvoirs au Maréchal Pétain.
Ce que vous devez savoir aussi , on a aussi vécu les bombardements dit "alliés" qui ont fait beaucoup de morts dans les rangs des civils. Alors certains vous appelaient " saleté de boche d'anglais ou saleté de boche d'américain.
You forget ABOUT VICHY!.
You completely forgot to write about VICHY, which openly collaborated with Hitler. You voluntarily handed over millions of Jews into the hands of the Germans - that is also a fact. The real resistance movement on a large scale was in POLAND (Armia Krajowa, "underground"). Also in Yugoslavia. Large units of partisans also operated in Belarus, Ukraine, and Greece. And compared to these countries, France looks weak.
Ahhh, I forgot. The French also created their own SS units, such as the Carolingian division, which was the last division to defend Berlin against the Allies. During the Battle of Britain, there were more pilots from distant Poland than from nearby France. That's interesting too.
@@lotnylotny671Vichy est le résultat du travail d'influence exercé sur Paul Reynaud et l'état major des Armées Françaises. Le plan était de vendre la France en 1940 pour que les US/UK débarquent 2 années plus tard. Vichy est un produit de l'anti Bolchevisme. En France dans les années 1930/1939 Les étrangers communistes et Français communistes furent souvent mis en prison ou camps. Pour terrorisme. Il y a tellement de détails.
@@lotnylotny671 vous dites les Français, mais cela ne rime à rien, sans connaître la réalité politique et idéologique.
Cela représente 1000 à 2000 hommes maximum.
En France en 1939 les communistes executaient des soldats ou gendarmes bien avant la guerre.
The UK police tyrants in their SS black tribute uniforms and with Couzens, Carrick and Brehmer (who strangled a nurse to death during the lockdown) in their ranks are well on their way to suffering the same fate.
You wonderfully-silly person. The internet is better-off for absurdity like this.
Sincere thanks.
What are our on? Fu:£?!ING WA.;/-)ker
Bullies and thugs join the Police!
@@JohnSmith-ei2pz
Is this an instruction?
@@robertcottam8824lol
Who's the bad guys?
Nazis
Even today one must be careful of the French, look at Macron trying to appease Putin, saying we must give him a way out ! Also saying Poland has too meny weapons,
You can make such a comment about Poland when your country shares a border with russia.
Macron é um bastardo q odeia a direita no Brasil ! Ele não passa de um comunista lacrador ! Veja o q virou o califado da frança onde imigrantes matam cristãos em plena frança 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Never heard Macron saying Poland has too many weapons...
Your sources please?...
It is true that Macron tried a negociated appeasement... That's not anymore the case...
In the meantime: AMX10, Caesar cannons, ammo, helmets, infos from french sattelites... protections, sent to Ukrain... Ukranian refugees allowed to come in France...
Your "nickname" seems to be british.... How many ukranian refugees did you welcome? Much less than France... How many weapons did you send to Ukrain? Much less than France...
Remember Dunkerque, Mers El Khebir, El Alemein.... We, French, remember...
You should have kept up your "bojoe" and... We're really happy you left EC. Things go much more well without rosbeefs.
Hahahahahaha! Brilliant! A (fellow) inhabitant of 'Albion Perfide' criticising the French for being untrustworthy in foreign policy!
I take it you're a Brexidiot, old boy? Hahahaha!
@@davidtkocz8356Russia.
A large scale of France was not liberated by anglo saxon armies but by the free FRENCH army Paris Alsace Alps Marseille Toulon Rhône Valley Burgundy and the french résistance FFI liberarted a good quarter of the territory all the south west and central massif. The free french armies conquered a part of south Germany and Austria it seems that anglo saxons have forgotten this fact because they had planned to put France under their military protectorate and politic domination. Thanks De Gaulle and Churchill wise and courageous m'en who saved US from the american domination.
Whose equipment did they use? Without the Americans Brits and other Allies, the Free French would've only been free in exile.
I wonder what is the diference between freedom fighters of the french Resistance and the terorists and insurgents from Vietnam, Irak or Afganistan...
"The Victors" always get to rewrite history....
Winning is the difference.
French are fighting for political ideals. And National identity.
The ones you "admire" from North Vietnam and are not the "same tribe" as the indiginous Viet from South Vietnam. It's communists vs Not.
The ones in Iraq and Afganistan are religiously motivated. The Imans make the decisions. Their fight is not about "occupiers" but tribal and religious loyalty.
As for who is "right or wrong", You Tube isn't a large enough forum to get deep into that.
Words. No more; no less
@@johnriebsame9341
But the French Resistance, the Mujahideen/Taleban, and the Viet Cong all won.
(Nobody won in Eye-raq. The Yank military got kicked out, yeah but Haliburton and others looted the country.)
A cause des "résistants" il y à eu beaucoup de civils fusillés!! il faudrait en parler un peu plus je pense!!
Those monsters and traitors denounced my Grand- Father , as a Resistant friendly knowing a lot of stuff, to both the Gestapo and the Milice in june 1944.....My Grand Father, coming from a bonded and very respected family, was warned by the French Police and Gendarmerie. ..as a result he could hide in the Mountains ( Southern French Alps) during one complete month...In parallel,the Gestapo went at night in my grand mother house, with 2 daughters ( My mother was 2 and a halg, at the time and still remembers!!!)....Fortunately they don't insist, because it was July 1944, my grand mother was very insightful, charming, clever, and persuasive, and they were too busy to chase Jew people , and then to flee and escape like f....G rats to northern France....and Germany...
My Grand Father,à tough , manly, and yet very humanist guy , spent 10 years in the élite " Alpine Chasseurs" troops as a petty officer, and saw action as à military in WW2, but he had PTSD about this particular épisode, wich hé never mentioned once.... Hé never tried to retrieve the fellow citizen Who send the letter to the Gestapo....the most shocking of that it was a small town of 1000 inhabitants...in this old France, with à lot of sociability everybody knew everybody....as a man being unfortunately less humanist than M'y grand father...i'm sûre that if it was me, put in the same situation, all me crazy: the indivual Who sent the Letter of duniciation to the Gestapo Would never have saw the year 1945....even if it was à woman....and even at a full cost of 20 years in prison....
This is what's known as.....................................KARMA.
Let's say french army and militia are extraordinarely effective against any weaker, way weaker, force...
Why are the Milice armed with British weapons?
Honor a la milicia.
I bet a few innocent people died because of vendettas or rival groups 😊
Oh yes. They were very brave after the fighting had ended. Especially dealing with Women.
your voice is very difficult to understand
Renee Artois is ze greatest hero of ze french resistaance...😂😂😂
😂👍
Reading a lot comments attached to this video, I see the limit of them as they are unable to draw any well balanced and nuanced portrait of the French resistance. As usually for many subjects in history, complexity of the reality is difficult to catch for many people commenting with emotion only.
The amount of bullshit in the comments is stunning !
@@solongagosoclear9191Must've never read the UA-cam comments before then, lol.
Pretty good robotic voice.
Why can't a real person do a voice over?
Han mezclados fotos verdaderas de ese evento con filmes hechos por Hoollywood, esa película filmadas lo he visto por internet ¿ Por qué han mezclados con las fotos de esa época.
En las fotos aparecen los de la resistencia con su verdadera ropa sucias , pero en el filmen aparecen bien peinados, acicalados, con ropa bien limpias.
Do not forget , evrn good mrn csn be brought to do very bad things if they are put under heavy preassure, but in their inner core they remain noble men?
Look at France now and then in 2030.
It sounds like France in WW2 was a hot mess.
Настоящее сопротивление было, только у французов в эскадрильи " Нормандия - Неман".