This is Jay Leno's Garage at it's best. An interesting and unmodified old car, and a bit of a history lesson. Also, the absence of another person keeps the focus on the car, and Jay doesn't feel the need to recycle all his anecdotes to a new guest!
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My grandfather was the head of NSU when this Spider and the Ro 80 were developed and built. My aunt had the hand-built pre-production model, a gorgeous azure-blue car with wooden steering wheel, which she took me into the Italian alps with. Great memories!
I have not seen one of these in years. In 79 - 82 I was stationed in Germany and had a 50 Km commute daily, half of which was on the autobahn, the other half through the Tanus mountains. I picked up a 1970 NSU Prinz 100 TT, which was a blast to drive, 1000 cc air cooled, 2 doors, and raced by a few local NSU clubs. It looked like a shrunken early Chevy Corvair. You could unbolt the engine and bring it downstairs to the basement and work on it. We would race the NSU Spiders, and could hold our own most of the time. The Spider handled the twists better, but the 100 TT had lots more power. A friend had a NSU RO Wankel which could easily eat our lunch on the autobahn, but we ruled the mountains. We took a trip to Neckarsucm to visit the old NSU factory and toured their assembly line and museum. By then Audi had taken over the brand.
@@Mo-mc3mwDang. Hopefully he doesn't read your comment. He may burn his car collection to the ground when he finds out you're still pissed about that Tonight Show debacle.
Jay, I am so happy that you drive these old cars. Many people keep them as museum pieces which is ok, but they are cars, which means they were meant to be driven. Still driving my Model T and it is 100 years old now! Keep up the good work!
Leaving a car sit untouched will do the car more harm than saving it. They HAVE to be driven. Find an abandoned racetrack or get into a track day event and just run a couple laps every week.
Jay, the AMC Pacer was designed to have the GM Wankel installed in it, which would’ve greatly improved the power-to-weight ratio. I believe the Mercedes you eluded to was the C111. And I remember as a kid, reading in MT or C&D or R&T around 1975, GM actually was considering making a Wankel-powered Corvette, long before Mazda’s RX-7.
AMC had designed the Pacer originally to accept a Wankel engine that would be designed by Curtis-Wright but then later decide to go with a upcoming Wankel engine that GM was planning to use in some of their own upcoming car designs. Unfortunately, GM canceled their Wankel project in ‘74 for various reasons including durability, tooling costs, and gas millage issues (the fuel crisis was in full swing at the time). This forced AMC, who had already put way to much money into the Pacer project to back out, to hastily redesign the Pacer to use their own straight-six engine which was dinged by car reviewers of the Pacer at the time of it’s introduction.
There was a show car Corvette around 1973 that was a four rotor Wankel mid-engine car. So WAAAY before the Corvette became a mid-engine car just a few years ago, Chevrolet was considering it in the 1970s.
From my '70s chlidhood memories, I could swear that the original GM H-body (Vega/Astre/Monza/Sunbird/Starfire/Skyhawk) was designed by engineers who also expected the GM rotary to show up as well. I actually owned a Sunbird for half a minute in high school, had the Buick 231 in it. As an import guy - loved that Jay mentioned that Mazda originally advertised the rotary as a NVH solution. In SCCA, we had a joke about those ads. "The little piston engine goes boing-boing-boing..but the Mazda rotary goes AAAAAAAHH!" I still think the reason my left ear is better than my right was that I was on a corner, and assigned to blue flag, when an RX-3 lost its muffler on a downshift (flame blast like a turbo on a bridge-port). We all bent over in pain, and the tower (Road Atlanta T1, the tower can see it from there) called to see if we were all OK.
What a fantastic little car. Jay, Thank you for sharing everything you do. You're an incredible custodian and educator in the automotive world. You keeping these old vehicles running so they can be seen, appreciated and enjoyed for many generations to come is hugely admirable. Your efforts in making these videos i believe is your finest work. A true natural passion. Thank you 🙏🏻
Looks like it was pulled of the tracks of a 1960s amusement park ride ..... then, to everyone's amazement, it's driven down the road, with the real cars
NSU was the predecessor to AUDI. They and DKW had incredible engineering for their time. I have a NSU Quickly moped from the 1950's that still gets 100+ MPG!
Not really. It would be more accurate to say that Auto Union was the predecessor. Volkswagen merged Auto Union with NSU to form the present Audi. (Audi had been one of the four companies in Auto Union.)
NSU Motorenwerke GmbH. went completely bankrupt because of the Wankel engine and was acquired by Volkswagen who merged NSU with Audi. Audi still occupys several former NSU sites.
There's more than that. NSU had 2 cars when they got bankrupt. One was the RO80 which was first sold as Audi RO80 but soon was discontinued. The shape and style of the RO80 though lives on in all modern Audi. The second car was called K70 and that was not yet on the market. The K70 was taken by Volkswagen and sold as VW K70, the first ever modern VW, first inline 4, first front engine, first front driven and first watercooled VW. VW would still build air-cooled boxer rearmounted cars if not for NSU.
My Grandfather here in Germany had exactly one of those, even in the same Colour! Sadly he sold it a long time ago in the early 90s. Either way, thanks for reminding me of this Jay and as a German i'm always happy when i see any NSU Car being taken care of and driven in the USA. In Germany that's not too uncommon to see, especially with all the NSU Car Meetings and Touring Events but i bet it's a rather rare sight in the USA, especially in such a great Condition! Thanks for sharing this one with us, Jay! Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
That's interesting. I follow a German channel that restores modern BMWs, called M539 Restorations, and he didn't even know what an NSU is. But I know what they are and have known for a long time, and I'm in the US and have never even seen one in person!
This is why I love “Jay Leno’s Garage”. So much GREAT information about odd modes of transportation and the restoration blog. New Super cars are interesting but the old ones take this channel over the top. Keep them coming!!
A friend of mine has three of them. One with two rotor, one with Prinz engine and one in parts. I testdrove the two rotor one with 130 hp. Nice ride with great Power to weight ratio and more spacious than I thought. It was also upgraded with Miata seats.
I remember back in the 70s my father had a fleeting interest in getting a car with a Wankel engine (not sure if it was a Mazda, probably was). The dealership had these little plastic models of the engine rotary system that they gave out, about the size of a coaster. That's what you needed, Jay, to demonstrate with! Much lighter than the actual assembly, lol! (I used to play with it for hours, turning it around and around, I was easily amused.)
WOW Jay - that certainly brought back memories for me. One of my high school teachers had this exact same car! Even in that same color. This teacher was over 6 foot tall and it was always interesting watching him slide into it. I always thought it was a great looking car. You reminded me of the unique sound it had when it 1st started up. Yes, it did sound a bit like an outboard motor. Being taken for a ride, I was impressed how smooth it rode and accelerated. Being so low to the ground and small, I am sure it felt a lot faster then we were actually travelling. Little did I know years later one of my University roomates would have a brand new NSU 1200 TT. That was a great car, really rare in Boston. I have always loved unusual vehicles. Jay you neglected to mention that NSU made a lot of motorcycles.
The NSU Spider is an absolutely fabulous car, that most people have never heard of, so thanks for posting a great video about it! I'm a huge fan of all Wankel engined cars, and I love NSU's. Used to own an NSU 1000C, another great little german car, and belonged to the club. I've only ever seen two of the Spiders in the flesh, but was lucky enough to get a ride out in an NSU RO80, which is an fantastic car, years ahead of its time as the engine is so smooth - truly glorious. You should definitely get one!
I understand your confusion with this. The NSU Spider is the car featured in Jay's video. This was a cabriolet model, which was fitted with the awesome little single rotor Wankel engine. The NSU Sport Prince was a coupe only version of the same car, but unlike the Spider, it was only ever fitted with the 598cc twin cylinder air-cooled engine (also fitted to the NSU Prince - a saloon model). I hope that helps to answer your question.
As i hear the tiny NSU Wenkel engine it reminds of the children's song and story of the The little red engine that said " I think, i think I know can". Great one Jay Thank you.
The RO80 was a beautiful car, styling ahead of its time. But yea the engine would only last about 60,000 miles before a replacement was installed by the dealer under warranty. I saw them in Germany when I was a kid, decades ago. My last visit to Germany a couple years ago, I did see a RO80 so they are still around. But very rare. Tks Jay for keeping these cars in the minds of enthusiasts.
Gotta love NSU. I picked up a 200cc NSU Lux bike right there in Neckarsulm a cpl weeks back and what shall I say, it still runs like a charm 70yrs after it was produced. Really fine engineering
Terrific car. I recently had a ride with a NSU Ro80 which is also rotary powered and it's only a three speed but you really don't notice that. The ride I had, the guy who drove it didn't get out of second gear. It's an extraordinary vehicle.
i used to drive around in one of these - as a kid, my father had one of these and the RO80, while he was working for NSU as a engineer - good times They tested the DKM version to 55.000 RPM in a reinforced testcell
Design is from Bertone. Sergio Sartorelli sketched it. It is a Cabrio version based on the Sport Prinz . A Little 600 cc 2 cylinder 30 bhp vehicle produced between 1959 and 1967
My Father have a NSU TT since 1970, my birthday year. I went to university with him, it's a incredible car. We are sorry because in Portugal is very dificult to find some mechanic that realy now how to rebuild the NSU. Great video, amazing experience.
Hi Jay. Instead of the NSU RO80 you can also go for the Citroen GS Birotor. Same twin rotor wankel engine. Really rare but a more interesting story. And as a big bonus you have the hydropneumatic suspension.
It's not the same engine as far as I know. NSU built their own. Citroen's was by Comotor. Comotor was some sort of joint venture and I think their Wankel was different from the NSU engine. Citroen thought the Birotor was such a disaster that they tried to buy up all of those and crush them. A few still survive. While standing in front of several Citroen cars a few years ago at the Imports at Carlisle (Pennsylvania) car meet, I was talking with another Citroen enthusiast. We both simultaneously remembered the Citroën Birotor and had a good laugh. We realized we were probably the only two people in the USA having that conversation...and likely the only two who cared. It was one of my best memories of the car show!
What a wonderful little car! I miss the days when a manufacturer could make a light small runabout and not have to worry about all the regulations and packaging of electronics, etc. Cars are big and heavy now just to fit all that crap in! Thanks, Jay and Crew, for another great episode! I love it when Jay shows off a piece of his collection!✌️❤️🙂🇨🇦
That's the beauty of this channel. I was enough of a car nut that each year I'd buy the Cars of the World volume so I was aware of this model. But this is the only time I've ever had the chance to listen to one or see it in motion. Side comment: years ago I went to an SCCA race at MidAmerica raceway. I'm pretty sure the RX7 had not even been made yet, and the wankels that were racing were the RX3 coupes. I learned that an unmuffled wankel exhaust note quickly produced the worst headache I've ever had.
Hello Jay, I have never heard of the NSU until now. I like it, nice little convertible . I purchased a 1983 Mazda RX-7 from the original owner way back in 1985. It was pamperd, Garage kept, just 32k on the clock. It was a twin rotor engine 12-A , had 4 spark plugs, two plugs per cylinder, or rotor , one plug was the lead, and the second plug was the trail. Fired within seconds of each other. I loved that car. It had great acceleration and fun to drive. Thanks, Jay, for sharing your NSU .
I like the oddball cars too, definitely ones with interesting engines and backstories. Thanks for preserving these funky gems Jay, not just by caring for them in your garage but also showing them to the world and educating us about their history.
Nothings better than watching a guy in a comfortable denim snap shirt with fluffy white hair demonstrate his toys. Makes each Monday a great day. Thanks Jay. 👍👍
NSU started as bicycle manufacturers. At some time they where the largest in the world. Only relatively late after the war they started to build cars as well.
Love Jay, just when I think I know a lot about cars, he comes up with a zinger…beautiful Sir, thank you. As always yore a true enthusiast. And you speak direto we fellow enthusiasts. And I absolutely love how you ask, hey wanna go for a ride…like my uncle, after I express interest in his old car…thanks so much for all you do. Really great.
That NSU Wankel really brought a smile to my face. No, it's not the fastest, fanciest, or best handling car out there, but talk about a fun segment. Thanks for sharing this cool little car with us!
I have been a fan of the Wankel for some time and really appreciate seeing this car in action. However, I must admit that the first shot of Jay next to the vehicle made it look like a pedal car!
Hello Jay. Recognised this immediately ! I was an avid reader of 'Car " magazine in the 1960's . And reading the same magazine (different issue ) l clearly recall a "world first " as they road tested a wankel engined Ford Mustang ! I also ,as a 17 year old , remember reversing into an RO80 in my 1963 Mini Countryman in 1971 and completely destroying the front end , with no visable damage to mine, (!) and only getting away with it as the owner was having an illicite affair with his sectretary ! Thankyou Jay
The Wankel engine Ford Mustang prototype is in the Auburn Cord Museum in Auburn Indiana. I saw it a few years ago and drooled over it! I never knew such a car existed and was so pleased to see it!
Always enjoy the "odd ball" cars, Jay! Engine placement reminds me of the V.W. Type 3s'. Remember the old t.v. add with Dustin Hoffman trying to find the engine in a type 3 Fastback? Would have been neat to see her up on the hoist for a look. Thanks, Jay for featuring this car, keep the good work.
Jay what I truly enjoy about your collection is that it’s such an eclectic mix of unique vehicles. “Everybody“ got super cars, but you’ve steam, electric, wood burning, and other incredibly unique vehicles. Please keep sharing them, otherwise we’ll never get to see them, ever.
Sounds like an old Arctic Cat and Johnson snowmobile I had that were rotary powered. Finding spark plugs for them are they challenge as well. Adding a little two-stroke oil to your gas on the Rotary really helps extend seal life.
When I had an RX-8 in for review, the press car came with multiple warning labels (interior, engine compartment, fuel filler, IIRC) to *frequently* check the oil level - and with one or two containers of motor-oil in the trunk. :D So it doesn't seem to me that they ever truly perfected the rotary/Wankel. It's an interesting concept with lots of strong points - but asking folks to do oil-checks this frequently ..? Besides: When I check Mazda-enthusiast channels, it seems to me that even their latest iterations will still need plenty of in-depth maintenance and - every few years or so - a complete rebuild. Plus there's the whole thing about gas-mileage. That RX-8 was lots of fun, but it got pretty horrible mileage compared to non-rotary sporty cars - even ones with much more power. On public roads, I think I managed about the same MPG with it as I did with a 997.2 Carrera 4S.
I used to love looking at that car in the Science Museum in Kensington London, when I was a kid... Hope they still have it, the last time I went the displays were atrocious compared to the 70s 80s...
Had my RX-8 for over 13 years. Properly maintained (easy to do; few Americans could be bothered), it was super reliable, fired up each and every time, maybe my favorite car (and I’ve owned a lot of cars). ❤️
Oh, I miss the times!! Thank you, dear Jay, for explaining all details I hadn't know ever albeit having had a steering wheel for decennials and Lederhosen, of-course, too.
I had a 2cyl regular 2door saloon prinz, a 59 and 60. That engine was from the 500cc sportmax motorcycle, it was so modern with no belts or clutter, there was nothing wrong with it. The wankel killed this company it was supposed to save, just like the Avanti finished off Studebaker. Nsu got bought out by VW who didnt want in house competition for their small cars, and folded nsu in with porsche/ audi. So, if you drive one of those, it may be mfgd in the old neckarsulm plant , the last nsu prinz was made in 1976... The first postwar car was the prinz for 1958 made in the fall of 57. Prewar, theyd made motorcycles, mopeds, bicycles, and, originally in the 1890s, sewing machines. They also made the motorcycle and scooters postwar, but, like zundapp, it also faded away eventually. There was also a separate nsu/ fiat company for a while, making fiat/ nsu cars under license . The last NSU designed car eventually became the Audi fox . I still have the hood ornament from my last 1960 prinz 3, the 1962 corvair like rework didnt catch my eye. The original, and these sport prinzes by Bertone were the cream of the crop. The ro 80 was magnificent and modern, and many survivors have ford v4 engines as replacements. Pity such a great company was lost, but always in my heart. ❤️👍
My father had 2 NSUs, a 1000TT and a 1200TT. A family of 4 travelled 600 miles to holidays in South of France from Brussels, Belgium and back in these minuscule cars. He was dreaming of having a RO80 but could never afford one. Biggest issue with Wankel is lack of torque.
Jay Leno- worth millions, sees used spark plug on eBay for $80, says “no thanks, I’ll look elsewhere.” Classic Jay- being frugal even when he doesn’t need to be! 😂
This is in my view one of the nicest pieces of Jay's collection ! Very handy, practical, tons of luggage space, and it purrs along like a happy cat. And a Wankel engine can't be that bad - Mazda at least won Le Mans with it.
Cool! My uncle had one - The original engines didn't last long due to poor apex seals; amazing this one runs. In the early 70's he made it into a hybrid with his own design rotary that ran purely as a generator.
@@stevek8829Well semantics, the engine/generator, package. Even in 1970 a suitable generator need only weigh a few pounds driven by a belt to deliver enough charge for what would be a bank of lead acid batteries. Would like to know the voltage he settled on, but there really isn't much space for more than ten batteries which would give a peak of 60KW. And of course he doesn't really need that many as he has the generator. I think it would have been absolutely doable in 1970. he would have been hampered by available motors probably a brushed DC motor..and power, available methods for engineering throttle (mechanical or electronic) and weight of what was a lightweight vehicle. People all over the world were experimenting and almost nothing under the sun is new. Most things have been tried and tested a hundred times before it becomes a 'new thing'. Remain cynical though, that is generally a wise thing.
@@martinda7446 just generating 20 hp requires a 15,000 watt generator, what about 50 hp? That's a bit large to just add. Then add the batteries. And, wouldn't you also need the output electric motor? The OP was posting BS and he ain't going to try defending. Whats odd is, these fantasy posts always have one defender.
My dad learned car mechanic as an apprentice here in Germany, with some courses by NSU in the late 60s, early 70s when the Wankels were around. His first own cars were two NSU Prinz 4, one after the other.
About 12 years ago in the UK I spotted an NSU Spider at a car show in the UK and had a chat with the elderly owner. If I remember correctly, he said that there were only 3 RHD examples built, and his was the only survivor, which he had owned from new. It was in immaculate, never restored condition, I was rather jealous.
First time watching Jay's videos on UA-cam. I appreciate the in-depth history and the way that everything is explained thoroughly. In retrospect, this car appears very small, but honestly it makes perfect sense. I love how slim the form factor of the power plant was, and it most certainly explains the appeal that Mazda took and ran with.
An equivalent type of car, size-wise, would have been a 1966Karmann Ghia...with the 1300-50hp engine...Same size, similar performance--of course, VW had a tried and true, reliable product..Both small cars had a nice look to them!
I am old enough to remember the when NSU Spider was around. I think from a size prospective the VW was a category larger than the NSU, at least in European eyes. @@curbozerboomer1773
Videos insanely quiet.........Your audio guy needs to watch a UA-cam video at 50% volume on his PC while finishing editing to test this video vs his audio. Makes sure everyone can hear it...you can always turn it down but only can turn it up so high.
That's a great design. Bertone made some truly beautiful cars... Thank you for sharing this with the world. It's a car I'd never have seen, most likely, if not for you...
I own one of the rare electric cars from that era of automotive experimentation, the Henney Kilowatt, built on a Renault Dauphine chassis, also rear engine. I also once had a 1980 Renault Le Car (R5) a car that was supposedly designed to have a Wankel engine in the front wheel drive configuration much like that NSU has in the rear. But the deal never happened, so a four cylinder inline (not tranverse) was shoehorned into it taking up much of the front passenger leg room in the process. If that car had been built with the Wankel, It would have had lots more room, but that car was only 1800 lbs and also handled very well for its engine mass placement. Thanks Jay for letting me know how anemic sounding and accelerating that R5 would have been with the one rotor NSU in it. I had a lot of fun with that Renault off road. It had five inches of travel in its rear suspension, and floated through big potholes with elan. No wonder it placed well in Paris to Dakar.
That is beautiful, right down to the Becker Europa radio. It brings me back to my "ute" in the mid '60's when I was working my way through college repairing foreign cars for Charlie Schmitt in STL. Charlie had me drive one of them down from Springfield, Ill to the shop. It was a fun drive. The space saving Wankel engine reminded me of the pancake engine in the VW 311 1500 series . Thank you Jay!
The older married couple had a pickup truck and a station wagon. This was their daily driver to the Yamaha motorcycle dealer they owned. A few years later, I was a tech at the Datsun dealership and because I could synchronize twin carbs, I was given all of the 1500, 1600 and 2000 Datsun roadsters because nobody puts one carb on each cylinder of a car engine. They look so much like a Datsun 1600, as I still own own. I bought a 1969 1600 Datsun Roadster for $300 in 1984 from a guy who's son was off in the navy. Easy to work on and if an were not allowed to get to took hot, they got 42-48 mpg. That is one nice about the smooth little 4 cylinder that grew up to become the 240Z, then 260Z and then that EFI fuel injected stuff that came out in 1976 with the Cadillac Seville in their 350 cu in V8. Fun times
Seems to me, that when I was still in High School here in Canada, someone had one of these NSU Wankel Engine Cars. We were so impressed, when he "revved the engine" & told us that "it revved to 10,000 rpm" at the time. 🤣 BUT, most of us believed him at the time! 🤭
My first car was a 1974 Mazda RX2, after that I had an RX4 small camper/pick-up, then a 1982 RX7. The rotary was the best! I do wish that they still has those engines now. SO smooth and as recall pretty good gas mileage. But yes, it drank up oil pretty fast. And I do remember trying not to over-rev the engine.
I had a 1973 Mazda RX-2 4-door, which I got from my dad in 1976 (during my first year in college) when he bought a pick-up. Excellent hp/weight ratio, roomy interior and big trunk for its class, nicely styled front end, poorly styled rear end, undersized tires and wheels (13"), below average handling (although it was rock solid the one time I took it up to 115 mph…fortunately no curves to deal with), and below average gas mileage for its class. However, it was fun to drive and it was so smooth my wife still recalls that it was only car we have owned that she could sleep in on a trip She could also sleep in my 2008 Grand Cherokee, but she would deny it. 🙂
When you opened the back trunk I was actually expecting the engine to be directly behind the seats like in a Lotus Exige. What a brilliant little car, makes me wish I still had my Prince.
Nice to see such an old Wankel. I had a '79 RX-7 that I loved to drive on the twisty back roads of New Brunswick. Above 130 Km/h, it really sang and would exploit its aerodynamics (but it terrified my wife).
I remember seeing one of these in the early 70's in the pebble beach car show parking area. My father parked his Mk1 Sprite next to it. They were about the same size. Down the way was an AC Bristol, a twin cam MG and Healey 100. Great times for a gear head kid. I had more fun touring the parking lot.
I’ve got a ‘59 NSU in storage (for 24 years now). Sliding door windows. Planning on bringing it into the main shop for the winter. Maybe it should get a wankle swap. ✌🏽😎
Just a man and his car…. These are the best when it’s just him and his cars… I know he’s getting older but it’s nice to see new videos like this one 👍🏾
Thank you for this. I have been reading about Wankel engines since I was a kid (in the 1970s) reading old issues of Popular Mechanics. However, I have never seen or heard one run, until watching this video. Thanks for another show-and-tell history lesson.
Me too. I have however owned a 1974 Mazda RX-3 wagon 4-speed, a 1973 RX-3 coupe 4-speed, and a 1986 RX-7 GXL 5-speed. The Wankel is my "Evil Mistress"; I love her, but she doesn't love me back. I loved all of these cars but had trouble with the engines on all of them. I'm still REALLY glad to have owned them.
Fabulous looking car. I used to see them on this side of the Pond, in Europe -- a dream car for a kid. If the vehicle were a little bigger, featuring a regular 4 Cyl/, she would be very competitive vis-a-vis MGs, Triumphs, Fiat 124 Spyder, etc. One of our neighbours owned a NSU R 80 -- gorgeous and futuristic looking sedan. Even today the R 80 looks sleek and modern. Thank you Jay for another awsome video.
Had an '86 RX7. Loved the dual rotor engine. Problems with the instrument cluster and ventilation controls was a downer. Scraped it when I had engine problems. Became a money pit.
Cool beans! My friends dad had one back in the 70's. He worked in the engine test cell at NASA's Lewis research center, Cleveland, Oh. On his garage wall was a 8x10 picture of a Curtiss Wright aviation Wankel with the exhaust manifolds cherry red, being wrung out on the dyno. These engines ran like a "raped ape".
NSU was also involved with Citroen. They developed a birotor engine for their first affordable mid-sized family salon, the Citroen GS Birotor. They have a very interesting story behind them. Also, they are very hard to come by, since Citroen tried to recall and destroy all of them. You love your SM and complex technical cars, so you should try one. The Citroen GS birotor combined Citroen's hydropneumatic suspension, the birotor engine, and the C-Matic transmission.
Indeed, an embarrassing failure like all Wankel projects. Yanmar recalled and destroyed all its Wankel engines. Suzuki bought back and destroyed thousands of RE5s, thousands of unsold bikes were dumped into the ocean. Ford has completely erased any trace of thier Wankel engines.
This is Jay Leno's Garage at it's best. An interesting and unmodified old car, and a bit of a history lesson. Also, the absence of another person keeps the focus on the car, and Jay doesn't feel the need to recycle all his anecdotes to a new guest!
'Its' is a pronoun and "it's" is a contraction, actually the two words "it"+"is." When we add an apostrophe, we're implying that there are the two words "it" and "is."
So your sentence "This is Jay Leno's Garage at it's best" would translate out to "This is Jay Leno's Garage at IT IS best." Which I'm certain you did not intend for it to say. In the future it may profit you to use the personal pronoun "ITS" instead of the contraction "IT'S."
Hope this helped.
OK, who installed Clippy into UA-cam?
@@KelikakuCoutin Wow! You must have a seizure when you see people misuse "There", "They're" and "Their".
Autocorrect strikes again 😊
Agreed. The USs auto docent.
My grandfather was the head of NSU when this Spider and the Ro 80 were developed and built. My aunt had the hand-built pre-production model, a gorgeous azure-blue car with wooden steering wheel, which she took me into the Italian alps with. Great memories!
RO 80 è stata una delle più belle auto mai progettate!
What a great memory thank you
Did you have a nsu ?
Jay’s NSU is just as exciting as some unobtainable 1200 hp monstrosity.
all production cars over 1000bhp are peaky as F@#£ The Bugatti might be an exception but its a lazy engine that w16.
I have not seen one of these in years. In 79 - 82 I was stationed in Germany and had a 50 Km commute daily, half of which was on the autobahn, the other half through the Tanus mountains. I picked up a 1970 NSU Prinz 100 TT, which was a blast to drive, 1000 cc air cooled, 2 doors, and raced by a few local NSU clubs. It looked like a shrunken early Chevy Corvair. You could unbolt the engine and bring it downstairs to the basement and work on it. We would race the NSU Spiders, and could hold our own most of the time. The Spider handled the twists better, but the 100 TT had lots more power. A friend had a NSU RO Wankel which could easily eat our lunch on the autobahn, but we ruled the mountains. We took a trip to Neckarsucm to visit the old NSU factory and toured their assembly line and museum. By then Audi had taken over the brand.
Good years to be in Germany.
Sounds you made the best during your duty time. Congrats!
In the 80s I always thought Mazda developed the rotary engine with the rx 7 I never knew until watching this video thanks
🤩 nice story ! I think that the tt is a 1200cc not a 1000 cc 😁
I like it when Jay does his own cars. Best thing about COVID was Jay doing his own cars and filming it himself.
I still despise him for the whole tonightshow-debacle
There were a ton of great things about COVID, but you're right, those episodes were the best.
@@Mo-mc3mwDang. Hopefully he doesn't read your comment. He may burn his car collection to the ground when he finds out you're still pissed about that Tonight Show debacle.
@@Mo-mc3mw It was NBC's fault, not his. Conan overreacted based on bad assumptions and people went along with it.
Jay, I am so happy that you drive these old cars. Many people keep them as museum pieces which is ok, but they are cars, which means they were meant to be driven. Still driving my Model T and it is 100 years old now! Keep up the good work!
I know exactly what you mean. I'm still driving my Volvo and it's over 30 years old! It SHOULD be in a museum! lol
Is your Ford T a 1923 season model?
Yes it is a 1923 Touring model@@angelperez7891
@@angelperez7891yes 1883
Leaving a car sit untouched will do the car more harm than saving it. They HAVE to be driven. Find an abandoned racetrack or get into a track day event and just run a couple laps every week.
Jay, the AMC Pacer was designed to have the GM Wankel installed in it, which would’ve greatly improved the power-to-weight ratio. I believe the Mercedes you eluded to was the C111. And I remember as a kid, reading in MT or C&D or R&T around 1975, GM actually was considering making a Wankel-powered Corvette, long before Mazda’s RX-7.
AMC had designed the Pacer originally to accept a Wankel engine that would be designed by Curtis-Wright but then later decide to go with a upcoming Wankel engine that GM was planning to use in some of their own upcoming car designs. Unfortunately, GM canceled their Wankel project in ‘74 for various reasons including durability, tooling costs, and gas millage issues (the fuel crisis was in full swing at the time). This forced AMC, who had already put way to much money into the Pacer project to back out, to hastily redesign the Pacer to use their own straight-six engine which was dinged by car reviewers of the Pacer at the time of it’s introduction.
There was a show car Corvette around 1973 that was a four rotor Wankel mid-engine car. So WAAAY before the Corvette became a mid-engine car just a few years ago, Chevrolet was considering it in the 1970s.
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Dinged?
The 258 is a fantastic motor with plenty of horsepower
@@fishhuntadventure That engine wasn't dinged for it power output but rather it's low gas milage at a time when the fuel crisis was in full swing
From my '70s chlidhood memories, I could swear that the original GM H-body (Vega/Astre/Monza/Sunbird/Starfire/Skyhawk) was designed by engineers who also expected the GM rotary to show up as well. I actually owned a Sunbird for half a minute in high school, had the Buick 231 in it. As an import guy - loved that Jay mentioned that Mazda originally advertised the rotary as a NVH solution. In SCCA, we had a joke about those ads. "The little piston engine goes boing-boing-boing..but the Mazda rotary goes AAAAAAAHH!"
I still think the reason my left ear is better than my right was that I was on a corner, and assigned to blue flag, when an RX-3 lost its muffler on a downshift (flame blast like a turbo on a bridge-port). We all bent over in pain, and the tower (Road Atlanta T1, the tower can see it from there) called to see if we were all OK.
My Dad was a dealer for NSU and I got to spend a lot of seat time in one of these. Great little car!
You like bmws?? Me too! They're really the "ultimate driving machine" what model do you drive and like? 🙂
In which city was your father’s dealership?
@@Gr8Layks Wayzata, MN
What a fantastic little car. Jay, Thank you for sharing everything you do. You're an incredible custodian and educator in the automotive world. You keeping these old vehicles running so they can be seen, appreciated and enjoyed for many generations to come is hugely admirable. Your efforts in making these videos i believe is your finest work. A true natural passion. Thank you 🙏🏻
Yes! He's the greatest!!!💯💯✌️✌️👍👍👍
Looks like it was pulled of the tracks of a 1960s amusement park ride
..... then, to everyone's amazement, it's driven down the road, with the real cars
NSU was the predecessor to AUDI. They and DKW had incredible engineering for their time. I have a NSU Quickly moped from the 1950's that still gets 100+ MPG!
Wow
Not really. It would be more accurate to say that Auto Union was the predecessor. Volkswagen merged Auto Union with NSU to form the present Audi. (Audi had been one of the four companies in Auto Union.)
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Yes, and I should have said NSU was ONE OF THE predecessors to AUDI....
NSU Motorenwerke GmbH. went completely bankrupt because of the Wankel engine and was acquired by Volkswagen who merged NSU with Audi.
Audi still occupys several former NSU sites.
There's more than that. NSU had 2 cars when they got bankrupt. One was the RO80 which was first sold as Audi RO80 but soon was discontinued. The shape and style of the RO80 though lives on in all modern Audi.
The second car was called K70 and that was not yet on the market. The K70 was taken by Volkswagen and sold as VW K70, the first ever modern VW, first inline 4, first front engine, first front driven and first watercooled VW.
VW would still build air-cooled boxer rearmounted cars if not for NSU.
My Grandfather here in Germany had exactly one of those, even in the same Colour! Sadly he sold it a long time ago in the early 90s.
Either way, thanks for reminding me of this Jay and as a German i'm always happy when i see any NSU Car being taken care of and driven in the USA.
In Germany that's not too uncommon to see, especially with all the NSU Car Meetings and Touring Events but i bet it's a rather rare sight in the USA, especially in such a great Condition!
Thanks for sharing this one with us, Jay!
Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
The (stock) ticker symbole for Audi in Germany is still NSU. 😉
That's interesting. I follow a German channel that restores modern BMWs, called M539 Restorations, and he didn't even know what an NSU is. But I know what they are and have known for a long time, and I'm in the US and have never even seen one in person!
Do you know who designed the body? I think it's a good looking car.
Thanks for the information, cheers from down under 🦘
@@tiki_trash It's mentioned in the video: Bertone. It derivated from the former model NSU Sport Prinz Coupé - also styled by Bertone.
This is why I love “Jay Leno’s Garage”. So much GREAT information about odd modes of transportation and the restoration blog. New Super cars are interesting but the old ones take this channel over the top. Keep them coming!!
A friend of mine has three of them. One with two rotor, one with Prinz engine and one in parts. I testdrove the two rotor one with 130 hp. Nice ride with great Power to weight ratio and more spacious than I thought. It was also upgraded with Miata seats.
So much more interesting with these smaller cars, than with 600 hp. multi million dollar builds. Thank you so much for y’et another great video.
I remember back in the 70s my father had a fleeting interest in getting a car with a Wankel engine (not sure if it was a Mazda, probably was). The dealership had these little plastic models of the engine rotary system that they gave out, about the size of a coaster. That's what you needed, Jay, to demonstrate with! Much lighter than the actual assembly, lol! (I used to play with it for hours, turning it around and around, I was easily amused.)
Great episode, It’s amazing how small the car looks when Jay is standing next to it.
WOW Jay - that certainly brought back memories for me. One of my high school teachers had this exact same car! Even in that same color. This teacher was over 6 foot tall and it was always interesting watching him slide into it. I always thought it was a great looking car.
You reminded me of the unique sound it had when it 1st started up. Yes, it did sound a bit like an outboard motor. Being taken for a ride, I was impressed how smooth it rode and accelerated. Being so low to the ground and small, I am sure it felt a lot faster then we were actually travelling.
Little did I know years later one of my University roomates would have a brand new NSU 1200 TT. That was a great car, really rare in Boston. I have always loved unusual vehicles.
Jay you neglected to mention that NSU made a lot of motorcycles.
And that 1200 engine was used in munch mammoth motorcycle
The NSU Spider is an absolutely fabulous car, that most people have never heard of, so thanks for posting a great video about it! I'm a huge fan of all Wankel engined cars, and I love NSU's. Used to own an NSU 1000C, another great little german car, and belonged to the club. I've only ever seen two of the Spiders in the flesh, but was lucky enough to get a ride out in an NSU RO80, which is an fantastic car, years ahead of its time as the engine is so smooth - truly glorious. You should definitely get one!
Is this not called a Prince Spyder? Or is it just based on the Prince?
I understand your confusion with this. The NSU Spider is the car featured in Jay's video. This was a cabriolet model, which was fitted with the awesome little single rotor Wankel engine. The NSU Sport Prince was a coupe only version of the same car, but unlike the Spider, it was only ever fitted with the 598cc twin cylinder air-cooled engine (also fitted to the NSU Prince - a saloon model). I hope that helps to answer your question.
@@theclocker7406 Yes, thank you!
As i hear the tiny NSU Wenkel engine it reminds of the children's song and story of the The little red engine that said " I think, i think I know can". Great one Jay Thank you.
The RO80 was a beautiful car, styling ahead of its time. But yea the engine would only last about 60,000 miles before a replacement was installed by the dealer under warranty. I saw them in Germany when I was a kid, decades ago. My last visit to Germany a couple years ago, I did see a RO80 so they are still around. But very rare. Tks Jay for keeping these cars in the minds of enthusiasts.
Gotta love NSU. I picked up a 200cc NSU Lux bike right there in Neckarsulm a cpl weeks back and what shall I say, it still runs like a charm 70yrs after it was produced. Really fine engineering
Love watching Jay Leno showing all these goodies...
Terrific car. I recently had a ride with a NSU Ro80 which is also rotary powered and it's only a three speed but you really don't notice that. The ride I had, the guy who drove it didn't get out of second gear. It's an extraordinary vehicle.
i used to drive around in one of these - as a kid, my father had one of these and the RO80, while he was working for NSU as a engineer - good times
They tested the DKM version to 55.000 RPM in a reinforced testcell
Design is from Bertone. Sergio Sartorelli sketched it. It is a Cabrio version based on the Sport Prinz . A Little 600 cc 2 cylinder 30 bhp vehicle produced between 1959 and 1967
I’m pretty sure Franco Scaglione designed it at Bertone. Sarorelli was working at Ghia at the time.
Thanks for showing the car. Many people have not heard of NSU or forgot about them. I had the pleasure to drive one in the early 70’s.
My Father have a NSU TT since 1970, my birthday year. I went to university with him, it's a incredible car. We are sorry because in Portugal is very dificult to find some mechanic that realy now how to rebuild the NSU. Great video, amazing experience.
Hi Jay. Instead of the NSU RO80 you can also go for the Citroen GS Birotor. Same twin rotor wankel engine. Really rare but a more interesting story. And as a big bonus you have the hydropneumatic suspension.
It's not the same engine as far as I know. NSU built their own. Citroen's was by Comotor. Comotor was some sort of joint venture and I think their Wankel was different from the NSU engine. Citroen thought the Birotor was such a disaster that they tried to buy up all of those and crush them. A few still survive.
While standing in front of several Citroen cars a few years ago at the Imports at Carlisle (Pennsylvania) car meet, I was talking with another Citroen enthusiast. We both simultaneously remembered the Citroën Birotor and had a good laugh. We realized we were probably the only two people in the USA having that conversation...and likely the only two who cared. It was one of my best memories of the car show!
I remember in the early ‘70s having a ride in an NSU Ro 80 and It sounded and felt like sci fi future. So smooth and such a nice sound!.
What a wonderful little car! I miss the days when a manufacturer could make a light small runabout and not have to worry about all the regulations and packaging of electronics, etc. Cars are big and heavy now just to fit all that crap in! Thanks, Jay and Crew, for another great episode! I love it when Jay shows off a piece of his collection!✌️❤️🙂🇨🇦
That's the beauty of this channel. I was enough of a car nut that each year I'd buy the Cars of the World volume so I was aware of this model. But this is the only time I've ever had the chance to listen to one or see it in motion. Side comment: years ago I went to an SCCA race at MidAmerica raceway. I'm pretty sure the RX7 had not even been made yet, and the wankels that were racing were the RX3 coupes. I learned that an unmuffled wankel exhaust note quickly produced the worst headache I've ever had.
Hello Jay,
I have never heard of the NSU until now. I like it, nice little convertible . I purchased a 1983 Mazda RX-7 from the original owner way back in 1985. It was pamperd,
Garage kept, just 32k on the clock. It was a twin rotor engine 12-A , had 4 spark plugs, two plugs per cylinder, or rotor , one plug was the lead, and the second plug was the trail. Fired within seconds of each other. I loved that car. It had great acceleration and fun to drive. Thanks, Jay, for sharing your NSU .
I like the oddball cars too, definitely ones with interesting engines and backstories. Thanks for preserving these funky gems Jay, not just by caring for them in your garage but also showing them to the world and educating us about their history.
The sound of your NSU brought back fond memories of our Honda outboard cruising the lake.
Nothings better than watching a guy in a comfortable denim snap shirt with fluffy white hair demonstrate his toys. Makes each Monday a great day. Thanks Jay. 👍👍
What a wonderful little convertible, didn't know that one existed, knew of the Ro80 but didn't realise they made the Spyder, Rj in Oz
I find cars / videos like this FAR more interesting than anything modern (i.e. hypercar, any new-ish Ferrari, etc.)
The Geo Metro came with 55 horsepower, but it was 1750lbs. So you should be able to kick Metro butt in a race. Nice car Jay
Metro had a sexy power curve reaching that 55hp tho believe it or not
Plus you could get a 5 speed metro
I think it would be a good fair race 🙏
NSU started as bicycle manufacturers. At some time they where the largest in the world.
Only relatively late after the war they started to build cars as well.
Love Jay, just when I think I know a lot about cars, he comes up with a zinger…beautiful Sir, thank you. As always yore a true enthusiast. And you speak direto we fellow enthusiasts. And I absolutely love how you ask, hey wanna go for a ride…like my uncle, after I express interest in his old car…thanks so much for all you do. Really great.
That NSU Wankel really brought a smile to my face. No, it's not the fastest, fanciest, or best handling car out there, but talk about a fun segment. Thanks for sharing this cool little car with us!
Yeah a lot of car enthusiasts do videos about the fast cars. But not many does the quirky cars. And that's the reason I like Jay's channel. 😊
The engine was also used from Citroen for a coupe based on the Citroen Ami 8 only as a prototype called Citroen M 50
Its actually nice seeing jay drive a manual, Good on him at that age! I hope my health lasts as long as his bless this man and give him eternal life!
I have been a fan of the Wankel for some time and really appreciate seeing this car in action. However, I must admit that the first shot of Jay next to the vehicle made it look like a pedal car!
This is what we love Jay! A breath of fresh air in an electrifying world 👌
This is what I like Jay. You. Your garage.And your cars. Those other guests. OK sometimes. Meh. Cool little car. Piece of history. 🤑💙👍😎
Hello Jay. Recognised this immediately ! I was an avid reader of 'Car " magazine in the 1960's . And reading the same magazine (different issue ) l clearly recall a "world first " as they road tested a wankel engined Ford Mustang ! I also ,as a 17 year old , remember reversing into an RO80 in my 1963 Mini Countryman in 1971 and completely destroying the front end , with no visable damage to mine, (!) and only getting away with it as the owner was having an illicite affair with his sectretary ! Thankyou Jay
The Wankel engine Ford Mustang prototype is in the Auburn Cord Museum in Auburn Indiana. I saw it a few years ago and drooled over it! I never knew such a car existed and was so pleased to see it!
Always loved these....the front end styling looks a lot like the Raymond Lowey Studebaker Coupe of 1953
And a litle bit of Kalman Ghia design. 😊😊
Always enjoy the "odd ball" cars, Jay! Engine placement reminds me of the V.W. Type 3s'. Remember the old t.v. add with Dustin Hoffman trying to find the engine in a type 3 Fastback? Would have been neat to see her up on the hoist for a look. Thanks, Jay for featuring this car, keep the good work.
ua-cam.com/video/lGdf9ea2olQ/v-deo.html Here's the TV commerical you mentioned.
Jay what I truly enjoy about your collection is that it’s such an eclectic mix of unique vehicles. “Everybody“ got super cars, but you’ve steam, electric, wood burning, and other incredibly unique vehicles. Please keep sharing them, otherwise we’ll never get to see them, ever.
This is why I stop by Leno’s garage! Those fin-lettes are priceless!
Thanks for sharing this with us Jay. Pretty cool.
I love that it has a shortwave radio receiver in the dash...the car sounds like a bubble machine tho....thanks Jay...!
Sounds like an old Arctic Cat and Johnson snowmobile I had that were rotary powered. Finding spark plugs for them are they challenge as well. Adding a little two-stroke oil to your gas on the Rotary really helps extend seal life.
My stepdad had a NSU Prinz as his first car. NSU really made some fun cars.
When I had an RX-8 in for review, the press car came with multiple warning labels (interior, engine compartment, fuel filler, IIRC) to *frequently* check the oil level - and with one or two containers of motor-oil in the trunk. :D So it doesn't seem to me that they ever truly perfected the rotary/Wankel. It's an interesting concept with lots of strong points - but asking folks to do oil-checks this frequently ..? Besides: When I check Mazda-enthusiast channels, it seems to me that even their latest iterations will still need plenty of in-depth maintenance and - every few years or so - a complete rebuild. Plus there's the whole thing about gas-mileage. That RX-8 was lots of fun, but it got pretty horrible mileage compared to non-rotary sporty cars - even ones with much more power. On public roads, I think I managed about the same MPG with it as I did with a 997.2 Carrera 4S.
I used to love looking at that car in the Science Museum in Kensington London, when I was a kid... Hope they still have it, the last time I went the displays were atrocious compared to the 70s 80s...
Had my RX-8 for over 13 years. Properly maintained (easy to do; few Americans could be bothered), it was super reliable, fired up each and every time, maybe my favorite car (and I’ve owned a lot of cars).
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Oh, I miss the times!! Thank you, dear Jay, for explaining all details I hadn't know ever albeit having had a steering wheel for decennials and Lederhosen, of-course, too.
I had a 2cyl regular 2door saloon prinz, a 59 and 60. That engine was from the 500cc sportmax motorcycle, it was so modern with no belts or clutter, there was nothing wrong with it. The wankel killed this company it was supposed to save, just like the Avanti finished off Studebaker. Nsu got bought out by VW who didnt want in house competition for their small cars, and folded nsu in with porsche/ audi. So, if you drive one of those, it may be mfgd in the old neckarsulm plant , the last nsu prinz was made in 1976... The first postwar car was the prinz for 1958 made in the fall of 57. Prewar, theyd made motorcycles, mopeds, bicycles, and, originally in the 1890s, sewing machines. They also made the motorcycle and scooters postwar, but, like zundapp, it also faded away eventually. There was also a separate nsu/ fiat company for a while, making fiat/ nsu cars under license . The last NSU designed car eventually became the Audi fox . I still have the hood ornament from my last 1960 prinz 3, the 1962 corvair like rework didnt catch my eye. The original, and these sport prinzes by Bertone were the cream of the crop. The ro 80 was magnificent and modern, and many survivors have ford v4 engines as replacements. Pity such a great company was lost, but always in my heart. ❤️👍
My father had 2 NSUs, a 1000TT and a 1200TT. A family of 4 travelled 600 miles to holidays in South of France from Brussels, Belgium and back in these minuscule cars. He was dreaming of having a RO80 but could never afford one. Biggest issue with Wankel is lack of torque.
0-60 the car is low on torque. From 60-120 it's hang on. Mine is the rare American version Ro80 with 24,704 miles on it.
I grew up surrounded by nsu, mostly with nsu 1000 and nsu 1200 and I love them. My favorite is NSU RO80
My Dad had a 1965 NSU Wankel Spyder, in 1967, one of 15 imported into Canada.
Jay Leno- worth millions, sees used spark plug on eBay for $80, says “no thanks, I’ll look elsewhere.” Classic Jay- being frugal even when he doesn’t need to be! 😂
Unique sounds, cool one Jay. Thanks. 😎👍😎
Man! How could I be 60 years old and not see this car before? Its gorgeous! I think I'm in love.
This is in my view one of the nicest pieces of Jay's collection ! Very handy, practical, tons of luggage space, and it purrs along like a happy cat. And a Wankel engine can't be that bad - Mazda at least won Le Mans with it.
This looks fun. My my alarm is set.
Jay looks like he's having a fun wankel in the thumbnail!
Cool! My uncle had one - The original engines didn't last long due to poor apex seals; amazing this one runs. In the early 70's he made it into a hybrid with his own design rotary that ran purely as a generator.
Seriously? any photos? He could have been the first....Well he sure would have been the first rotary hybrid in the world! That is something..
The engine can't be the generator, it can only drive the generator. Where did he put the big generator and battery?
@@stevek8829Well semantics, the engine/generator, package. Even in 1970 a suitable generator need only weigh a few pounds driven by a belt to deliver enough charge for what would be a bank of lead acid batteries. Would like to know the voltage he settled on, but there really isn't much space for more than ten batteries which would give a peak of 60KW. And of course he doesn't really need that many as he has the generator. I think it would have been absolutely doable in 1970. he would have been hampered by available motors probably a brushed DC motor..and power, available methods for engineering throttle (mechanical or electronic) and weight of what was a lightweight vehicle. People all over the world were experimenting and almost nothing under the sun is new. Most things have been tried and tested a hundred times before it becomes a 'new thing'.
Remain cynical though, that is generally a wise thing.
Keep making stuff up. Someday you might find out what the real world is like.
@@martinda7446 just generating 20 hp requires a 15,000 watt generator, what about 50 hp? That's a bit large to just add. Then add the batteries. And, wouldn't you also need the output electric motor? The OP was posting BS and he ain't going to try defending. Whats odd is, these fantasy posts always have one defender.
My dad learned car mechanic as an apprentice here in Germany, with some courses by NSU in the late 60s, early 70s when the Wankels were around. His first own cars were two NSU Prinz 4, one after the other.
About 12 years ago in the UK I spotted an NSU Spider at a car show in the UK and had a chat with the elderly owner. If I remember correctly, he said that there were only 3 RHD examples built, and his was the only survivor, which he had owned from new. It was in immaculate, never restored condition, I was rather jealous.
First time watching Jay's videos on UA-cam. I appreciate the in-depth history and the way that everything is explained thoroughly. In retrospect, this car appears very small, but honestly it makes perfect sense. I love how slim the form factor of the power plant was, and it most certainly explains the appeal that Mazda took and ran with.
An equivalent type of car, size-wise, would have been a 1966Karmann Ghia...with the 1300-50hp engine...Same size, similar performance--of course, VW had a tried and true, reliable product..Both small cars had a nice look to them!
@@curbozerboomer1773 i very much agree with that comparison. You only needed do much to get you going forward
I am old enough to remember the when NSU Spider was around. I think from a size prospective the VW was a category larger than the NSU, at least in European eyes. @@curbozerboomer1773
Really 31+ hrs this premieres thing is getting outta hand
That's what I thought.
Have a Wankel while you wait
Yup, ridiculous isn't it. But yet here we are... 😆
Wait until we have premiers of premieres
No one forces you to wait. Its just a notification. Get a grip
Finally not another advertisement for the failing ev industry. Thanks Jay for returning to your roots.
These are the best videos. Just me and Uncle Jay looking at one of his cars on a lazy afternoon.
Videos insanely quiet.........Your audio guy needs to watch a UA-cam video at 50% volume on his PC while finishing editing to test this video vs his audio. Makes sure everyone can hear it...you can always turn it down but only can turn it up so high.
Audio level is fine compared to the youtube podcasts and lectures I listen to on my tablet.
That's a great design. Bertone made some truly beautiful cars... Thank you for sharing this with the world. It's a car I'd never have seen, most likely, if not for you...
My dad had a Mazda 1973 RX3, that car could punch and was so quiet. A windstorm finished it off a few years later.
A friend of mine had one back in the early 70's He gave me a ride in it. we made it part way across his yard before it broke down. Good Times!
Jay - you, your collection, your knowledge, and your videos are literally a national treasure. Thank you
I can't think of another celebrity that I admire and enjoy more than Jay. A national treasure, really. This channel is unadulterated joy.
I own one of the rare electric cars from that era of automotive experimentation, the Henney Kilowatt, built on a Renault Dauphine chassis, also rear engine. I also once had a 1980 Renault Le Car (R5) a car that was supposedly designed to have a Wankel engine in the front wheel drive configuration much like that NSU has in the rear. But the deal never happened, so a four cylinder inline (not tranverse) was shoehorned into it taking up much of the front passenger leg room in the process. If that car had been built with the Wankel, It would have had lots more room, but that car was only 1800 lbs and also handled very well for its engine mass placement.
Thanks Jay for letting me know how anemic sounding and accelerating that R5 would have been with the one rotor NSU in it. I had a lot of fun with that Renault off road. It had five inches of travel in its rear suspension, and floated through big potholes with elan. No wonder it placed well in Paris to Dakar.
The Henney Kilowatt -- wow that's a rare car indeed!
That is beautiful, right down to the Becker Europa radio. It brings me back to my "ute" in the mid '60's when I was working my way through college repairing foreign cars for Charlie Schmitt in STL. Charlie had me drive one of them down from Springfield, Ill to the shop. It was a fun drive. The space saving Wankel engine reminded me of the pancake engine in the VW 311 1500 series . Thank you Jay!
15:58 Jay, to be honest, I like the odd cars the most.
Idiosyncrasies in cars are just so much fun!
The older married couple had a pickup truck and a station wagon. This was their daily driver to the Yamaha motorcycle dealer they owned. A few years later, I was a tech at the Datsun dealership and because I could synchronize twin carbs, I was given all of the 1500, 1600 and 2000 Datsun roadsters because nobody puts one carb on each cylinder of a car engine. They look so much like a Datsun 1600, as I still own own. I bought a 1969 1600 Datsun Roadster for $300 in 1984 from a guy who's son was off in the navy. Easy to work on and if an were not allowed to get to took hot, they got 42-48 mpg. That is one nice about the smooth little 4 cylinder that grew up to become the 240Z, then 260Z and then that EFI fuel injected stuff that came out in 1976 with the Cadillac Seville in their 350 cu in V8.
Fun times
I'd only seen stills of this car before, so getting to see a video of it and get an impression of the sound it makes, is very cool indeed.
Seems to me, that when I was still in High School here in Canada, someone had one of these NSU Wankel Engine Cars. We were so impressed, when he "revved the engine" & told us that "it revved to 10,000 rpm" at the time. 🤣 BUT, most of us believed him at the time! 🤭
My first car was a 1974 Mazda RX2, after that I had an RX4 small camper/pick-up, then a 1982 RX7. The rotary was the best! I do wish that they still has those engines now. SO smooth and as recall pretty good gas mileage. But yes, it drank up oil pretty fast. And I do remember trying not to over-rev the engine.
I had a 1973 Mazda RX-2 4-door, which I got from my dad in 1976 (during my first year in college) when he bought a pick-up. Excellent hp/weight ratio, roomy interior and big trunk for its class, nicely styled front end, poorly styled rear end, undersized tires and wheels (13"), below average handling (although it was rock solid the one time I took it up to 115 mph…fortunately no curves to deal with), and below average gas mileage for its class. However, it was fun to drive and it was so smooth my wife still recalls that it was only car we have owned that she could sleep in on a trip She could also sleep in my 2008 Grand Cherokee, but she would deny it. 🙂
Some might remember the the RX2 was the car that destroyed mazda... went completely bankrupt and was bought by Ford.
When you opened the back trunk I was actually expecting the engine to be directly behind the seats like in a Lotus Exige. What a brilliant little car, makes me wish I still had my Prince.
Nice to see such an old Wankel. I had a '79 RX-7 that I loved to drive on the twisty back roads of New Brunswick. Above 130 Km/h, it really sang and would exploit its aerodynamics (but it terrified my wife).
I remember seeing one of these in the early 70's in the pebble beach car show parking area. My father parked his Mk1 Sprite next to it. They were about the same size. Down the way was an AC Bristol, a twin cam MG and Healey 100. Great times for a gear head kid. I had more fun touring the parking lot.
I’ve got a ‘59 NSU in storage (for 24 years now). Sliding door windows. Planning on bringing it into the main shop for the winter. Maybe it should get a wankle swap. ✌🏽😎
Just a man and his car…. These are the best when it’s just him and his cars… I know he’s getting older but it’s nice to see new videos like this one 👍🏾
Thanks for being who you are J.. Your like a kid that gets to live a Disneyland everyday and you share it with us all..
Thank you for this. I have been reading about Wankel engines since I was a kid (in the 1970s) reading old issues of Popular Mechanics. However, I have never seen or heard one run, until watching this video. Thanks for another show-and-tell history lesson.
Me too. I have however owned a 1974 Mazda RX-3 wagon 4-speed, a 1973 RX-3 coupe 4-speed, and a 1986 RX-7 GXL 5-speed. The Wankel is my "Evil Mistress"; I love her, but she doesn't love me back. I loved all of these cars but had trouble with the engines on all of them. I'm still REALLY glad to have owned them.
Fabulous looking car.
I used to see them on this side of the Pond, in Europe -- a dream car for a kid.
If the vehicle were a little bigger, featuring a regular 4 Cyl/, she would be very competitive vis-a-vis MGs, Triumphs, Fiat 124 Spyder, etc.
One of our neighbours owned a NSU R 80 -- gorgeous and futuristic looking sedan.
Even today the R 80 looks sleek and modern.
Thank you Jay for another awsome video.
Had an '86 RX7. Loved the dual rotor engine. Problems with the instrument cluster and ventilation controls was a downer. Scraped it when I had engine problems. Became a money pit.
Cool beans! My friends dad had one back in the 70's. He worked in the engine test cell at NASA's Lewis research center, Cleveland, Oh. On his garage wall was a 8x10 picture of a Curtiss Wright aviation Wankel with the exhaust manifolds cherry red, being wrung out on the dyno. These engines ran like a "raped ape".
NSU was also involved with Citroen. They developed a birotor engine for their first affordable mid-sized family salon, the Citroen GS Birotor. They have a very interesting story behind them. Also, they are very hard to come by, since Citroen tried to recall and destroy all of them.
You love your SM and complex technical cars, so you should try one.
The Citroen GS birotor combined Citroen's hydropneumatic suspension, the birotor engine, and the C-Matic transmission.
Indeed, an embarrassing failure like all Wankel projects.
Yanmar recalled and destroyed all its Wankel engines.
Suzuki bought back and destroyed thousands of RE5s, thousands of unsold bikes were dumped into the ocean.
Ford has completely erased any trace of thier Wankel engines.