Talking Solomon Kane, Conan, Kull and all other things Robert E. Howard with Razorfist!
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
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The Midnighters are joined by Razorfist to discuss all things Robert E. Howard!
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"He's like if the Quakers oats guy became the punisher" lmao 🤣
I'd watch that movie. First his old friend Uncle Ben dies mysteriously, then Ben's wife Aunt Jemima, then Oates gf Lana Lakes gets taken out and he goes on a killing spree taking out corporate executives and anyone on Twitter who called for his friends deaths.
I like to say “if William Brewster was Doomguy”
Conan, Kull, Solomon Kane, El Borak, Bran Mac Morn, Breckenridge Ellis, Sailor Steve Costigan, Professor John Kirowan, Dark Agnes; all great characters!! Bring on the HCU (Howard Cinematic Universe)
In this year…. God no.
An independent studio or something like that?
@@jarrettbeese8024 Good point. But damn, it would be glorious if it could happen in the right way. We may have to wait until society rebounds from all this woke stupidity, and who knows how much longer that will take.
Make your own studio. Hollywood would just ruin it.
No
To this day, I have never encountered any other author that can put so much meaning in so few words like Robert E Howard could do. The man was a master of words & inferences.
I can't recall who said it but when you read Robert E Howard, "You can place yourself at a campfire and you are actually listening to the protagonist retelling the tale", that seems to me to sum it up better than anything I've heard so far.
Howard and Lovecraft were close friends. Lovecraft was also way ahead of his time. Howard actually puts Conan into the Lovecraftian mythos framework.
Just found this old stream can't believe it I'm a huge Robert E Howard fan love his work own the collection books of Conan, kull, Solomon Kane and the Pictish King.
Then this is the channel for you; refer to our Conan and other Barbarians playlist
@@MidnightsEdge Awesome thanks bro
'Wings in the Night' may be my favourite Solomon Kane story.
It'd make such a bad-ass film.
Agreed. Also Red Shadows and Blades of the Brotherhood could be easily fleshed out into full movies. Red Shadows is a chase across the world and Blades of the Brotherhood could have flashbacks to Kane's piratical days. (kind of like the start of the movie)
I think Red Shadows would make a great first movie, wings in the night would make a great follow up, then moon of skulls for a closer.
I actually inspired the coolest looking episode of Gendy's Primal.
@@Wastelandman7000given Solomon’s chase across the world you could combine that with other SK stories to make a pretty good mini series. So long as you keep Solomon’s motivation simple. A simple motivation combined with a more complex enemy or story could be interesting.
Solomon Kane is the model for Vampire Hunter D.
I loved seeing Razor hold up that Solomon Kane Omnibus. That may not be my favorite purchase, but it was one of my most anticipated. Its biggest failing is simply that there isn't more of it! There just weren't very many original SK stories in the collection. There are going to be three whole omnibuses devoted to Kull, there should have been at least as many Solomon Kane stories. Original tales of Kane on the high seas, more of him in the Black Forest of Northern Europe, more of his epic trek across Africa.... So many missed opportunities.
I haven't read much of Dark Agnes (just the recent 'Serpent War' crossover by Jim Zuub) but I wouldn't mind seeing more of her. As long as she is written in the spirit of the pulps and not the spirit of today...
Love the Kevin Sorbo Kull movie, it's a childhood favorite.
I loved the conan comics from back in the late 90s/early 2000s, Made me realize how much more there was to conan as a character. I wouldn't trust modern marvel or entertainment to do anything good with him now, given the climate of hating on strong male role roles.
Malmberg has been behind some of the worst Conan stuff in the last decade. And now, he can spooge all over it more.
Public Domain Debut Dates:
Conan The Barbarian: 6 Years. Year 2028
*Solomon Kane:* 2 Years. {EXACTLY The Same Time as Mickey Mouse} Year 2024
*Kull:* 3 Years. Year 2025.
El Borak: 8 Years. Year 2030.
Bran Mac Morn: 5 Years Year 2027
I dunno if Conan or solomon will make it. I hope they do.
We need more MIDNIGHT'S RAGE streams! Love hearing Razorfist when he is NOT going on a rant LOL!
I've got work, you bastards.
Oh well, coming back to listen to the rest of this will keep me out of burger king I suppose.
I'm all about the return of sword and sandals pulp fiction. My favorite jobs are the painted covers I'm doing. I'm also looking forward to the hero's journey. Rock on!
They won't return because the SJW are telling us masculinity is toxic. How can conan have dozens of babes wanting to suck his d*ck if soyboys and femininsts in hollywood wil censor out this stuff? Also remember how long it took for Wolverine to even get a R rated movie? (deadpool beat him to the punch) If you get a R Rated conan movie it would have to be directed by Mel Gibson or something like that where he doesn't care about trying to make movies for teens only.
@@UToobUsername01 keep that papist away from Conan
@@shinobi-no-bueno I don't think he injects his catholic beliefs into the movies he makes but I can see why you would be afraid of that. Unlike the others in holywood however there is no preaching in his movies. He just shows brutal reality and that is what I mean for Conan. I want to see the brtuality of barbarians in film but using conan license. Have monsters, wizards, and mystery (lot of dark magic and sacrifice of humans to appease demonic entities) but give us the gore of apocalypto and the values of an honorable warrior who is against the cults and manipulators of society. The original Conan in the 80s did that wonderfully but a brutal version of this with a lot more up close and personal emotional drama mixed into the movie would make this better than the Arnie one people keep praising. The same way Lord of the Rings managed to tell a fantasy tale without being kiddy and teeny, but actually an adult and mature story about the fall of heroes morals causing genocidal army to almost make mankind extinct. These are timeless stories because they resonate with many veterens of war and REAL MEN, not just pimply nerds who read a lot of comic books and play DnD. LOL
That’s cool you actually paint the covers. Do you still offer commissions?
Red Sonja needs to be under the same roof as Conan. I hate when the rights to characters from the same author are all split up.
Red Sonja is not from REH
Yes she was but the story was set in the 16 th century. The Marvel Comics guys made her from Conan's time en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shadow_of_the_Vulture
@@stevegt2682 Red Sonja was inspired by Sonya of Rogatino but the characters are different. It's not just the timeline. Their background for instance are different
@@stevegt2682 Red Sonja is a composite of several different character of Howard's. The red Sonja you know was thought up by two guys, who has some history with marvel... I am struggling to recall their names at the moment.
I found Robert E Howard back in the mid 80's, and I'm so glad that I did, cause its getting harder to find all his stories for newcomers, as most have been out of print for decades. Its kinda sad, as his work is profound, but is deemed "racist" & "sexist" by today's authorities, who couldn't even write a comic book. Its just sad. And to those of you who read the comics of Conan...Understand that the writing of Robert E Howard stories are almost nothing like the tripe that comes from modern authors. The recent authors write Conan very differently, and nowhere near as intelligent nor good.
I love pulp stories from Robert E Howard
I think my favourite character so far is Solomon Kane. I've reread Savage tales many times and he feels like someone who feels like a force of nature and yet still have a tinge of humanity.
I agree. Kane is Howard's most complex character. He's so complex even he doesn't know why he does half the things he does. LOL
To be serious, Kane isn't a superman. Yes, he's a born fighter, but, he nearly lost to Le Loup in Red Shadows. And made the mistake of laying his sword aside and nearly died for it. Kane is also portrayed as having compassion and being willing to lay down his life for anyone in danger or under oppression.
Another difference is Conan, Kull, Bran Mak Morn are all portrayed as having the natural "advantages of the barbarian" being quicker, more agile, and having more endurance. Kane is a civilized man. Yes, he's lean and strong as a hungry wolf, but, he has no natural advantages beyond his hard life and being a natural born fighter. Its his faith in the justice of his cause that carries him through. Like in Skulls in the Stars where he fights a clawed ghost with nothing more than courage and faith.
That makes him less superhuman than the barbarian stable and thus more human.
I would have loved for it to have been revealed that it was some Lovecraftian Eldritch Horror, not the Hebrew God, which guided Solomon Kane's journey and kept him alive.
@@shinobi-no-buenothat would ruin the character. The point of the character is that he is a synthesis of strength and the Protestant Christian worldview.
The Shadow Kingdom is my favorite Kull story. Serpent men, baby!
Well, they seem to be running the governments of the world so.... Where's a Pictish shaman when you need one?
I came from Razorfist's Channel. What a lovely feeling of being a fly on the wall, listening to such a good conversation. Thank you. I've subbed and I look forward browsing the library.
A multiverse story. Batman chasing the Joker, both end up in an earth were The Shadow exists in real life. Both Batman&Joker are 2 halves of 1
Think they did that one. Razorfist talked about a cross over between the two.
I just got here and nearly shit myself when i saw Razorfist's name in the title. i've been a fan of him for years. he was a main member of one of my favourite podcasts called the Hatebit Podcast. this is going to be good :)
I doubt Tolkien drew from REH, Tolkien was creating his world at the same time as him if not before, it just took many decades before he was published. I believe it was de Camp who said Tolkien had read some Conan, don’t know if it’s been corroborated. That’s not to put down REH’s influence.
Tragic that the Red Nails animated movie fell through all those years ago.
A valeria movie shouldn't be hard to sell
There *could* be a netflixian version of King Kull. However, the title would be re-worked into "Queen Kundalini".
“…and Kundalini wants his hand back.” - Toecutter, Mad Max (1979)
1:02:50 Purefoy did something similar when shooting the Egyptian palace scenes in Rome; according to the audio commentaries they had metal music blasting for a lot of the shooting.
Great episode! Though Andre did tend to talk over Razor quite a bit.
About 40 minutes in. Pretty good so far. But the host really needs to let Razorfist finish his thoughts. He is the guest, after all. Off to work now. Will finish this later.
For clarification, I mean Andre when I refer to the “host.”
I have loved conan since I was a little kid and watched the Arnie films. I later collected the comics and I am a huge sword and sorcery fan. I have a small statue based on frazetta's barbarian painting always next to my computer.
Wassup Razor?.. Comin' at ya from Buffalo NY. Grew up hanging at the local comic shop in the 80s loving Savage Sword of Conan and all things Conan. Listening to Sabbath,Dio and Maiden. Thanx for what u do and hopefully the next generation of kids embrace the Pulp. Thanx for the entertainment. Keep it up , much appreciated.
So glad to find you guys. I was always was a Solomon Kane fan myself.
The Shadow Kingdom audiobook is on UA-cam. It's on a playlist I like to fall asleep to.
Yooooo we on that same Sleeping playlist my dude
...And I am one of these braves...
Hell yes, this deserves far more views than it has. By Crom and Mitra!
Wow, that Whisperer cover looks fantastic... Damn you for being in black and white, Razor!
When there comes a "tumblr" version of Solomon Kane, Razorfist shall become "RagerFist", similar to the alternate Reed Richards becoming "The Brute". 🤣
You mean when Netflix decides to make a live action adaptation?
@@ghostprojekt Sadly, yes.
hail RAZOR. im into pulp stories because of razorfist
The adaptation of "Pigeons From Hell" from the "Thriller" tv show hosted by Boris Karloff is one of the very best Robert E. Howard adaptations.
When I read pigeons from hell I’ll check it out, thanks.
I recently discovered that the cartoon Conan the Adventurer is on Tubi for free and have been enjoying the hell out of it. It brings back memories. I'd love to know Andre's stance on that show.
"CONAN! THE MIGHTIEST WARRIOR EVER!" *Conan leaping off a mountain of skulls* -- The Shows Intro.
That cartoon is criminally underrated. But it came out the same year as Batman The Animated Series as it's competition. It's no wonder it didn't last as long, but that show had it all. Wizards, Sorceresses, Warriors, gods, Lizard people, Dragons, Ninjas, Time Travel, Ghosts, 4 armed flying demon monsters, Phoenixs. It's easier to write a list of things the show didn't have.
I was liking it pretty well till it got into environmentalist nonsense.
Great genre knowledge and discussion, Razorfist for the win.
Cheers.
J.R.R. Tolkien got acquainted with the work of R.E. Howard through L. Sprague de Camp in 1964. Sprague gave Tolkien the Sword and Sorcery anthology that included Howard's story "Shadows in the Moonlight". Now, according to Sprague, Tolkien said that he "rather liked" the story. To me, that sounds like a polite British response, which might or might not have been very genuine, but Tolkien was very negative about the other stories in the anthology. I'm pretty sure Tolkien was unaware of Howard before 1964, somehow I don't see American pulp fiction lying around in the study of an Oxford don.
Pretty sure the Golden Eye movie had different music from the video game.
Really enjoyed this. KULL is my favourite.
This was an awesome stream. I loved It!
Also, lots of Robert E Howard books freely-available in PDF format can be found on the Freeditorial website. Enjoy!
Sonya of Rogatino and Dark Agnes were almost exact contemporaries. Solomon Kane was running around about 50-60 years later.
Oh man, Andre and Razor are experts on this subject and how am i only seeing this video now? About to watch, thank you guys!
I come for industry news and studio gossip, I stay to hear Andre’s marvelous voice extoll the many virtues of REH.
Razor fist is so knowledgeable
Disagree about Eric Serra's GoldenEye score. I think it's really cool. But do agree it's a shame that it didn't hit the classic 007 theme hard on the nose at least once!
Crap I wish I had listened to the stream live. This is a great conversation.
As someone who is writing a science fantasy book/novel great stories usually require retooling and editing.
However, we need to make our own products and companies. Hollywood is a monopoly and needs to be broken up. Every state should have several studios and produce films.
That’s anti Semitic
Gentlemen. A pleasure to listen to.
Anyone who is into Robert E Howard stuff should check out the Kane series by Karl Edward Wagner. IMO that stuff is the pinnacle of sword and sorcery as well as sci-fi/fantasy fusion.
Can't believe I missed this stream! Love all things Robert E. Howard!😍💖💖💖
1.) This was a fantastic podcast. It's refreshing to see people praising literature of the past with such passion instead of shitting all over it or ripping into people shitting on it. Not that I have an issue with the latter but it's a nice change of pace.
2.) The only Howard thing I'm familiar with is Conan. I remember in the mid-late 90s I found a bunch Robert E. Howard Conan books at flea markets for like 10 cents. Sadly I don't have them anymore as I needed to sell them off in the mid 00s along with a bunch of other crap I wish I still had after my car abruptly died on me. In hindsight wasn't worth it. Last year I downloaded all the Conan stories that were on audible and binged the fuck out of them driving to and from work for a year. I have Solomon Kane in my wishlist so I'll be getting to that soon.
3.). Little bit surprised no one brought up or asked in the chat about the Conan The Adventurer cartoon from the early 90s and your thoughts on it? I loved it growing up, and while it did it's own thing, for a kids show the feel of it's world and characters were closer to the books than the movies ever got.
4.) YES! Rastan! I own the really good Master System port of it. For an 8-bit game it's so satisfying swinging a Sword at enemies and seeing them explode in a spray of blood!
Fuck yeah you brought razorface in the show
I _NEED_ more of razorfist reading noir content like The Shadow.
I really liked james purefoy as solomon kain in the movie i rewatch it now and again and enjoy it everytime
A Solomon Kane game, I'm in.
Since Lovecraft was already brought up, ya'll should look into the works of Clark Ashton Smith who alongside his own Zothique and horror works, had also wrote in the settings of Hyperbora and Cuthullu.
That Solomon Kane with Purefoy is soo good
The Kull movie suffered from being low budget, I recall from the time I thought it was okay but nothing to write home about it.
I still need to read his boxing stories.
I’m only here as a Razorfist fan. I understand being passionate about a subject, but you really need to breathe and let your guest talk and stop talking over him dude. Razor took it in stride but damn I would have been driven insane
I'm starting to notice this as I listen to more of the video. Andre cuts him off a bit too much.
Currently playing Conan Exiles with the Elric comic collection across from me on my bookcase. So glad you guys are giving such love to awesome Pull classics. Picking up the Soloman Kane Board game soon.
Good point messaged at 27 minutes into this video about Clark Ashton Smith, seriously underrated author from the Weird Tales era that could be rediscovered.
The description of Zamora is one of my favorite beginnings in any story. I can’t wait to hear razors rendition.
I loved Savage Sword of Conan when I was younger. I've just recently started rereading REH again and listening to audiobooks. Solomon Kane is my favourite character but Conan will always have a special place.
Awesome collaboration, the world needs pulp now more than ever
finally someone that says this stuff about Zimmer, i felt alone for 9 years
Golden Axe II cover is in the Boris Vallejo style, mixed with subjects of Frazetta paintings, and probably Schwarzenegger Conan.
Andre, next time you get a great guest. Try not to interrupt him so much mate....
Thanks for the stream guys. You have tempted me to read the books. Got the complete Conan The Barbarian the complete collection for £0.75 in Kindle form off Amazon. Look forward to reading them.
Great stream guys. Really enjoyed listening to this while at work. Two thumbs way up, hope there will be more.
Doc Savage was my favorite back in the 70's when I was in high school. Then the Conan books came out in paperback and I switched aligience!
The length of this video greatly pleases me (2:34:56)
"IGNORE ME AT YOUR PERIL! I am here as a WATCHMAN to WARN you!"
Dark Agnes would be freakin sweet as hell.
Robert E Howard is the greatest
Go listen to razor's The Shadow vid he did, its a good audiobook reading of Double Z.
Chakan looks like Eddie from Iron Maiden wearing Solomon Kane's cloak and hat.
Great guest
Finding other pulp fans through UA-cam is like being alone in the secret best corner of the library, believing that no one cares about that corner but you, but then suddenly one or two souls shuffle up and ask, "You like this, too?"
Usually I'd chase people away from that corner with a gigantic stick, being a responsible and devoted guardian of seemingly forgotten quality material of the past, but I daresay that these folks seem to grok this stuff in a way I can respect. More importantly, they seem to sincerely care about it as much as I do.
kelly the conjure man is my favorite R.E.H short story.
this is a treat
I'm really glad I listened to this. I read one of those watered down Conan books in the early 1980s. I wasn't that impressed. It was okay. I thought I was reading the real thing. I'm looking forward to reading a real Howard story now. I'll start with "The Shadow Kingdom." Also, there was an excellent independent film in 1996 about Robert E. Howard starring Vincent D'Onofrio and Renée Zellweger before they were stars called "The Whole Wide World." I highly recommend it.
I saw Razor, I came to view and like.
We've been in the deconstruction phase of superheroes since 1985. When are we going to get to the reconstruction phase?
'The Shadow Kingdom' is indeed a great read. Hail Kull the serpent slayer!
In my eyes when its about the death of fantasy movies, there was a movie before peter jacksons lord of the rings that could be a huge hit and had such huge potential but was a un-/watchable trashfire instead and even the first fatalblow that killed fantasy movies.
Its the first Dungeons and dragons movie . They missed the mark sooooo hard that Peter Jacksons great LotR movies sparked that hope again but brought the true kill for fantasy movies with Eragon and such .
And even the Eragon books were kinda meh or bad . But its understandable when a small child was the author to the books . So i cant blame him .
Eregon was a really bad book and a half decent movie.
15:40 karl edward wagner collected Howards original manuscripts and published two volumes in 80's. Also, K E Wagner's sword & sorcery immortal Kane series is excellent. Not a conan rip off and written really well nor is it related to Solomon Kane, despite the name.
Well I mean really old comics did include prose stories so they could get better shelf rates at the news stands.
Too bad the Solomon Kane show is going to blow.
The video I needed and waiting for!
Technically, the Conan universe is also the Cthulhu universe.
I am in the process of trying to track down Howards original Conan stories. And just bought the collected works of HPL. Anniversary edition, no less
Lovecraft and Howard didn't just borrow stylistic components from each other, but actual setting elements. Each of them would incorporate actual things from the others' stories into their owns. It's basically a shared universe.
Wish book companies would release all of Robert E Howard's wssterns, boxing, detective stories all his other stories. Wish we got more collections. I need to them. Lol. Wish they would relsase more books with other genres that Robert E Howard did. Hes the greatest my favouritenglad he gets respect from u giys hes the best.
Andre throws out a LOT of speculations on REH that aren't necessarily based on facts. Also, his definition of 'pulp' is pretty loose. Still, this was a cool podcast.