Thank you! I enjoyed the video and now I want a powder coat steel knife. I did want to ask a question about German steel knives. I bought a preowned offset cheese knife on eBay where I have purchased many new knives (mostly new) and done quite well and they seemed like authentic knives and much like my factory purchased ones. This one seemed off. When I compared it to the knives I already owned it seemed a warmer color steel (more golden than blue) and the other German knives (various brands mostly Henckels) seemed cooler and brighter. When I talk about this color difference it was very subtle but definitely there. Something like the difference between the color of 18k white gold and platinum. I bought the exact knife (bigger though) from the company and compared it and again the steel looks much warmer (more toward golden silver than blue silver) on the eBay knife than the one that was from the company. Still the seller insisted it was authentic. The seller had described it as a 10" blade when it was a 5" blade so on that alone I got it returned. Is German steel cooler (brighter bluer silver than golden) than a cheaper steel? Oh in addition the knife just felt cheap in your hand and it wouldn't cut at all. We didn't sharpen it because we didn't want him to claim we changed the knife or anything. The knife in question had horizontal striations on the spine that were unique to the factory purchased knife.
Hey Pippadawg, you ask a great question! There are container loads of counterfeit knives landing on our shores every day. The box, label and paperwork with the knife can be exactly the same as a knife from the desired manufacturer but the knife itself will not possess the same materials or manufacturing process. In other words, it will all look great but the knife is trash. Always purchase your cutlery from an authorized dealer. You can contact the manufacturer, who's knives you want, and confirm that the dealer is authorized. Why not just buy direct from the manufacturer? Many (though not all) manufacturers sell their knives at MSRP. Dealers sell their knives at retail (MAP if set by the mfg). You might get better pricing from a dealer, and perhaps better customer service. Now, about powder steel. It is not powder coating. They are two different things. Powder steel is a relatively new way of making steel for production knives. Without going deep into the weeds, it's just better. Better edge retention and toughness. More expensive but generally worth it. We are just beginning to see more powder steel in culinary knives. It's revolutionized sporting knives for years now. If you are looking for great used knives, I would become well versed in one brand or two and learn what to look for. The more you know the less likely you are to get ripped off. I would also focus your search in your nearest city. It's much easier to buy a used knife if you can hold it and really see if it is the real thing. Buy online at your own risk. Lastly, let's talk about steel color. Unless the manufacturer changes their process, the color of the steel should be the same. There are some things that can change the color of the steel but I wouldn't expect it to be a common occurrence. At the end of the day, a knife is as a knife does. Toughness, edge retention, sharpenability and corrosion resistance are the four properties we use to compare one knife steel to another. If the knife performs well for you, then it was a good acquisition. I hope this answers your questions. Thanks again for your comment. ...Richard
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Great video!
Thanks!
Excellent presentation Richard! I'm thinking RWL34, and ceramic sharpening rod😊
That would be a great combination. It works for me... Thanks for the comment Anthony!
Thank you! I enjoyed the video and now I want a powder coat steel knife.
I did want to ask a question about German steel knives.
I bought a preowned offset cheese knife on eBay where I have purchased many new knives (mostly new) and done quite well and they seemed like authentic knives and much like my factory purchased ones. This one seemed off. When I compared it to the knives I already owned it seemed a warmer color steel (more golden than blue) and the other German knives (various brands mostly Henckels) seemed cooler and brighter. When I talk about this color difference it was very subtle but definitely there. Something like the difference between the color of 18k white gold and platinum.
I bought the exact knife (bigger though) from the company and compared it and again the steel looks much warmer (more toward golden silver than blue silver) on the eBay knife than the one that was from the company. Still the seller insisted it was authentic. The seller had described it as a 10" blade when it was a 5" blade so on that alone I got it returned.
Is German steel cooler (brighter bluer silver than golden) than a cheaper steel? Oh in addition the knife just felt cheap in your hand and it wouldn't cut at all. We didn't sharpen it because we didn't want him to claim we changed the knife or anything. The knife in question had horizontal striations on the spine that were unique to the factory purchased knife.
Hey Pippadawg, you ask a great question! There are container loads of counterfeit knives landing on our shores every day. The box, label and paperwork with the knife can be exactly the same as a knife from the desired manufacturer but the knife itself will not possess the same materials or manufacturing process. In other words, it will all look great but the knife is trash.
Always purchase your cutlery from an authorized dealer. You can contact the manufacturer, who's knives you want, and confirm that the dealer is authorized.
Why not just buy direct from the manufacturer? Many (though not all) manufacturers sell their knives at MSRP. Dealers sell their knives at retail (MAP if set by the mfg). You might get better pricing from a dealer, and perhaps better customer service.
Now, about powder steel. It is not powder coating. They are two different things. Powder steel is a relatively new way of making steel for production knives. Without going deep into the weeds, it's just better. Better edge retention and toughness. More expensive but generally worth it. We are just beginning to see more powder steel in culinary knives. It's revolutionized sporting knives for years now.
If you are looking for great used knives, I would become well versed in one brand or two and learn what to look for. The more you know the less likely you are to get ripped off. I would also focus your search in your nearest city. It's much easier to buy a used knife if you can hold it and really see if it is the real thing. Buy online at your own risk.
Lastly, let's talk about steel color. Unless the manufacturer changes their process, the color of the steel should be the same. There are some things that can change the color of the steel but I wouldn't expect it to be a common occurrence.
At the end of the day, a knife is as a knife does. Toughness, edge retention, sharpenability and corrosion resistance are the four properties we use to compare one knife steel to another. If the knife performs well for you, then it was a good acquisition.
I hope this answers your questions. Thanks again for your comment. ...Richard