@@aliawahab723 I still get 150-170fps in cs 2. I even run dota 2 one 1080p comp settings with 130-150fps. I am also not even running dual channel ram, im running 4x8GB DDR4 2666mhz(all 4 sticks are the same and 3200MHz CL16) but I can run everything I throw at it with 60fps+. I got a 144hz monitor so no need for 120fps+
@@BladeCrew emulation on this chip is bad and it is not future proof I wish I got 3600 I could have upgraded to rtx 3060 or something right now but i,m stuck with 5500xt
@@fissionplane32 The architecture used in AMD FX processors, such as the FX-6300 was referred to by AMD as the Bulldozer arcitecture. The cores were less powerful and less efficient than those offered by Intel at the time. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulldozer_(microarchitecture)
Should have done your research well prior to purchasing It's basically a 4500G without an iGPU That's why the price is low Its productivity is good though seeing not everyone buys a CPU for 'gaming' So stop whining Cheers
Clickbait headline. It may not be great performance-wise relative to current AMD processors. Still, if I think about a bad CPU, I think about something that throws out computational errors or degrades in operation over time. Or a new generation of computer chip that performs worse than the chip it is supposed to replace. This chip is most likely created to minimize defective dies that would otherwise be discarded. It underperforms so it may be disappointing relative to its AM4 peers, especially for gaming. But it isn't the worst AMD CPU ever.
Good video. The R5 4500 is not for you, me and other people who want to play games. It is for someone who wants to make a media pc or a family pc to surf the net and they want to spend the least possible amount of money possible, they don't care about "bang for buck". People who's dual core pc died after 10yrs of usage and they'll reuse the video card, case and psu if possible on a new pc. A R5 4500, A320/A520 motherboard and 16gb of the cheapest ddr4 ram they can find.(I've had an acquaintance that wanted to save money so much that they wanted me to reuse their ATI Radeon X1050 on a new pc build, that's a 15yr+ old card that is pci-e 1.0 and has ddr1 vram. I gave them a gt 610 so they can watch 1080p video easily.) The R5 4500 is meant to be an i3 "killer" for that segment of people because it's cheaper and has more cores and threads.
Yeah, I3 12100f and r5 4500 were the same price here and battles neck to neck Having a cpu of r5 4500 won't matter much if you have gpu like rx 580 unless you plan to upgrade better gpu, though a used r5 3600 is still good but depends on price of used market (used r5 3600 is expensive here 😅)
@@kanimou Define not good, what were the 5600G based PCs I built going to be used for? People are obsessed with FPS in games that many other people have no interest in playing.
@@atom608 This is the correct answer. Don't be afraid of used. My first gaming PC is still around with a 4th gen xeon, 10 year old CPU and it was like $50 used. Even the motherboard it's on is that old too. Still runs like brand new. It's a little different for GPU's but contrary to popular believe, you SHOULD go for a card used for mining if you are buying used. Virtually all Miners underclock their cards to maximize profit and lower power consumption. The worst secondhand GPU's to buy are ones used extensively for gaming because of inept gamers who have no idea how to overclock. I know people who never check their temps.
@@tacticalmattress Yeah I decided to go used for my GPU that was a current gen 3060ti at the time for only $400 NZD when they were going for nearly 1k NZD just had to repaste it as it was running hot. I did get a 13400f and in hindsight should of got a used 12600k instead which is pretty much the same cpu with lower clocks. PSU and case's are cheap enough that might as well buy brand new as you can get some good value. CPU GPU Motherboard Maybe ram if its modern could all be used parts to save you half the price and move you up a couple tiers of performance eg like a 3060 to maybe a 3080 if you go used for the core products
I mean the performance would be good, but I'm not sure about anyone using that CPU besides for it's integrated graphics. Maybe a R5 7600 would be better?
Testing with the rx 7900 gre will further the gap between the r5 4500 and r5 5600. Just stay away from this processor.
I mean my Ryzen 5 1600 AF that I bought back in the day(2020) for 85 dollars has 16MB of L3 Cache.
@@BladeCrewi have this monster too but sadly it is outdated now
@@aliawahab723 I still get 150-170fps in cs 2. I even run dota 2 one 1080p comp settings with 130-150fps. I am also not even running dual channel ram, im running 4x8GB DDR4 2666mhz(all 4 sticks are the same and 3200MHz CL16) but I can run everything I throw at it with 60fps+. I got a 144hz monitor so no need for 120fps+
@@BladeCrew emulation on this chip is bad and it is not future proof I wish I got 3600
I could have upgraded to rtx 3060 or something right now but i,m stuck with 5500xt
Clearly someone never used a bulldozer product...
Hey, can you elaborate on what a bulldozer product is? Couldn't find anything online
@@fissionplane32 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulldozer_(microarchitecture)
Not that hard to search. Use key words.
@@fissionplane32 Search AMD FX CPUs
@@MarcoGPUtuber so I guess it means shit product? You gotta be more specific
@@fissionplane32 The architecture used in AMD FX processors, such as the FX-6300 was referred to by AMD as the Bulldozer arcitecture. The cores were less powerful and less efficient than those offered by Intel at the time.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulldozer_(microarchitecture)
Should have done your research well prior to purchasing
It's basically a 4500G without an iGPU
That's why the price is low
Its productivity is good though seeing not everyone buys a CPU for 'gaming'
So stop whining
Cheers
Clickbait headline.
It may not be great performance-wise relative to current AMD processors. Still, if I think about a bad CPU, I think about something that throws out computational errors or degrades in operation over time. Or a new generation of computer chip that performs worse than the chip it is supposed to replace. This chip is most likely created to minimize defective dies that would otherwise be discarded.
It underperforms so it may be disappointing relative to its AM4 peers, especially for gaming. But it isn't the worst AMD CPU ever.
Worst? FX was so crap that I skipped it totally. Never had one even this day for a collectable.
R5 4500: I'm the worst cpu ever made!
R3 4100, 8700f, 8400f, A12-9800: Hello
the 4500 is not even that bad when its priced at 60 to 70 usd
Nice video. Every company have a few product's that aren't worth it.
Sure, but this is truly bad, and in my opinion misleading, that cpu performs like an i5 from 2015 or something
Good video. The R5 4500 is not for you, me and other people who want to play games. It is for someone who wants to make a media pc or a family pc to surf the net and they want to spend the least possible amount of money possible, they don't care about "bang for buck". People who's dual core pc died after 10yrs of usage and they'll reuse the video card, case and psu if possible on a new pc. A R5 4500, A320/A520 motherboard and 16gb of the cheapest ddr4 ram they can find.(I've had an acquaintance that wanted to save money so much that they wanted me to reuse their ATI Radeon X1050 on a new pc build, that's a 15yr+ old card that is pci-e 1.0 and has ddr1 vram. I gave them a gt 610 so they can watch 1080p video easily.)
The R5 4500 is meant to be an i3 "killer" for that segment of people because it's cheaper and has more cores and threads.
Yeah, I3 12100f and r5 4500 were the same price here and battles neck to neck
Having a cpu of r5 4500 won't matter much if you have gpu like rx 580 unless you plan to upgrade better gpu, though a used r5 3600 is still good but depends on price of used market (used r5 3600 is expensive here 😅)
it's not the worst, the worst is the Athlon FX-72 and the rest in that lineup
The Athlon FX was a good CPU.. I had one
@@GamingAndUSAIsDeadCuzFarleft it was designed for you to have 2
Athlon FX wasn't crap, but FX was.
I considered using this once, then I wised up and used a 5600G
5600g still isnt good.
@@kanimou Define not good, what were the 5600G based PCs I built going to be used for? People are obsessed with FPS in games that many other people have no interest in playing.
I thinl the decent middle ground between 4500 and 5600 is 5500 and it will be a nice choice if you on a tight budget
If you are that strapped for cash to buy a 5500 then people should just buy used chips like a 12600k or something similar or used 5600
@@atom608 maybe even a used 3600 and a better gpu. it still gets 100fps in cyberpunk so it should be enough for regular people
@@atom608 This is the correct answer. Don't be afraid of used. My first gaming PC is still around with a 4th gen xeon, 10 year old CPU and it was like $50 used. Even the motherboard it's on is that old too. Still runs like brand new.
It's a little different for GPU's but contrary to popular believe, you SHOULD go for a card used for mining if you are buying used. Virtually all Miners underclock their cards to maximize profit and lower power consumption. The worst secondhand GPU's to buy are ones used extensively for gaming because of inept gamers who have no idea how to overclock. I know people who never check their temps.
@@tacticalmattress Yeah I decided to go used for my GPU that was a current gen 3060ti at the time for only $400 NZD when they were going for nearly 1k NZD just had to repaste it as it was running hot. I did get a 13400f and in hindsight should of got a used 12600k instead which is pretty much the same cpu with lower clocks. PSU and case's are cheap enough that might as well buy brand new as you can get some good value.
CPU
GPU
Motherboard
Maybe ram if its modern could all be used parts to save you half the price and move you up a couple tiers of performance eg like a 3060 to maybe a 3080 if you go used for the core products
Ryzen better than intel
Are you sure that your cpu isn't defective? I seen much better performance from that chip.
man even the ryzen 5 1500x release was more better than that
*buys old zen 2 cpu*
*complains about 2024 performance*
-_-
OMG, how is that possible? My I5 12400F + RTX 4060 outperforms R7 5800X3D + RX 7600.
I got it for a lower end build, for 60€, 5600 is 125€, so it was not even an option, is it that bad for that price?
5500 would be better, but a little late now I guess
@@JBrinx18 5500 is 95€ 🥲, it was a pc for my young brother, used an Rx 6600 for 160€ not bad
Do overclock, it will make it better :)
Less than half of the performance for half of the price. What do you think?
@@mad_max21 in my case it's not half the performance, I not using a rtx 4090 lol, I also have a pc with the Ryzen 5 5600
Is ryzen 5 8500g is good with rx6700
I mean the performance would be good, but I'm not sure about anyone using that CPU besides for it's integrated graphics. Maybe a R5 7600 would be better?
also cus its (4500) is an APU aka binned down Ryzen 4650G or 4600G
so minimal cache .... its basicly a ryzen 3400G @ very least
with half L3 cache disabled
only 16MB L3 on zen2 APUs
@@GamingAndUSAIsDeadCuzFarleft No, it's just Renoir which had 8MB cache only. The Ryzen 5 4500 is good as a server CPU