Print on Demand YouTubers are Lying to You!
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It drives me insane that people say Make $10,000 a month, but they never tell you what their net is. If you aren't making a profit after all expenses then you aren't making money. I'm also a Real Estate agent and the same thing there. I want to see a P&L!!! Great video thank you so much for shinning light on this!
Right! It’s like gworl 10k before taxes, before fees, before costs… leaves you with like 1k lol I rather keep my health care job. I’m just tryna sell stickers for fun
Most of these pod/drop ship youtubers don't even do it themselves, and they just screen shot fake income statements
For what i have seen so far from people who share the information with reliable data from gross the net is at most 20%, so if someone states he makes 10k Gross, they should get around 2k Net on average.
Shimmmmmmmmy! Thank you for your video. I'm a new POD seller on Etsy and the struggle is real. Finding UA-cam content that doesn't try to sell you on false hope with POD is a struggle to find, especially when just looking for answers to simple questions. Your channel has been great for me. It keeps me motivated, but realistic which I think is key for POD. Thanks!
That really means a lot! Thank you so much! I hope you find the answers you’re looking for
bro go watch the mark tillbury video yourself...he is completely not true
I’m starting to disbelieve things on UA-cam now
:(
I think you eventually understand who is transparent and who's not
Ya think? 😆
It's a damn cesspool!
There's lots and lots of lies out there 😢
I love that you did this I haven’t been in the biz for years but it’s more work than I was lead to believe. It’s annoying. Expose all those phonies.
There is a big problem with people spreading misinformation about POD, Etsy, Amazon KDP, and Audible lately who have little to no experience in those fields. Thank you for making this video. When I started out, I fell for a lot of bad advice from those people.
you're welcome!
Not only in POD, they lie in every business, the ones about affiliate marketing are the worst, big time liars
Because it's a grift, just like these crypto youtubers, or course sellers. Most of these guys have never even done pod. They copy from other youtubers about pod, and share fake income screen shots. It's all fake
I’ve had a bunch of quick niche money making websites, products, and other stuff. I would never tell anyone my secrets. No one with business sense would either. They’ll tell you once it’s dried up for affiliate income.
Hmm I dunno though. I watch and know a lot of people who make a ton of money and share it in videos because they just love making content and teaching
There is that too.
I agree which is why restaurants do have secret ingredients. However, secret and misleading/minformation are two different things.
Great video! UA-cam needs more creators who are honest and ethical. You’ve probably saved someone £100s worth of mistakes when embarking on this business.
Thank you! I really hope so
Thank you being upfront about Gelato. I think it's better to just do your own website then using Etsy or Amazon if you are using POD. I don't believe in over saturating any platform with a bunch of garbage that wastes peoples time. Integrity is definitely one of the most important things in any business or life.
What drives me nuts is they always assume any one Etsy seller who is making even a conservative 5% profit at 4k net per month has no other overhead and it's just pure profit.
We don't know how much of that profit goes to taxes or to paid ads.
Just because a listing does not appear as sponsored this "guru" has zero clue if the seller is running Google ads, Facebook ads, Pinterest ads or any combination thereof.
Many times when you see that volume of sales it's because you are either running ads and driving lots of traffic to your listings or you have built up a large audience over time through your own site and have collected tons of emails.
After factoring in ad spend that 4k he calculated could be down to 1k or less.
Nobody ever talks about the possibility of ad spend. 🤦♀️
Thanks for being so realistic, im currently starting a blog, trying to sell on ebay, and made a ebook on Amazon. Starting these income streams are hard, im still in High School and have a job as a CNA. However if I get more videos like these, it would make the process a whole lot smoother.
thank you!! i'll make sure to do that
My fellow highschool grinder 🔥🔥
You are the first and only UA-camr I have heard say honestly in plain language that these print on demand providers do not offer free as advertised. Yes, it is free to make listings but once you get a sale like you said, if you don’t have money in your bank to cover the sales you’ve made, then you’re up the creek. But as many people as I have watched, talk about print on demand and how much money they make, they never ever say this. I simply learned by experience and I wondered how come all of the people who talk about all these sales that they have never talk about what it actually takes to get into the business.
Everything should be uncovered with this business so there's no surprises
I’ve been watching you for 4+ years and love your content. Thank you for maintaining your integrity as you grow. I hope you find all the success bro. Keep up the good work.
thank you so much! really appreciate that
Thank you for your honesty! I have been doing POD for almost 3 years, and everything you say in this video is true. It is NOT passive for the most part, it is NOT easy and most of us will not make big money with it. But I am having fun with it and making a somewhat of a profit. And good designs DO matter!
Hi, after 3 years working in POD, how much money do you make a month and how much time do you work on it every day ? I'd like to start but I want to know if it's worth it
This is the most honest conversation. You all speak honestly. I know it. I did this business. It's not an easy business
totally
I have given up with print on demand and one by one I've closed most of my accounts and the only one I have now is shopify but eventually I may close that one too . There's so much miss information about POD and bad advice , I have fallen for a lot of it myself and I'm exhausted with it .
I hope more creators will begin to expose false info on youtube
Me too!
It’s rampant.
This is a well done video, Shimmy! It can be exhaustive, and frustrating to fight back against the unrealistic expectations and oversimplified narrative some of the 'guru's' put out there.
Thank you! I spend so much time telling people who ask me why it’s not working that the videos they’ve seen aren’t realistic representations of POD at all!
Thanks for pointing this out with certain UA-camrs I would not watch that anyway, but I know a lot of people do and they might believe that this is possible but good to know. I am thinking of doing print on demand really soon here as well.
Mark immediately lost me when he said he's run/sold million-dollar companies, yet he makes videos about POD. I suppose many folks DO have million-dollar POD businesses. But for a man with that apparent level of business skill, POD seems like small potatoes and wouldn't be worth his time.
My thoughts exactly!!!!
I don't think there's an issue with that. Lots of people have million dollar businesses and just enjoy the world of UA-cam. I don't think I'll ever give up with UA-cam, however rich I get. I don't get why he made this video for Gelato though, that confuses me
Agree!
@@shimmymorris1 I think he made the video because it was a big payday. That's the problem with the whole influencer game. Look at the way they work. A couple of years ago pitching crypto was the big thing, then it was NFTs, and lately it's AI. How many videos have you seen saying that you can make $10,000 or more per month by using AI to write a blog, create affiliate pitches, or even produce POD products, Total BS.
Bingo.
Thanks for this @Shimmy! I love how honest you are. I am so disappointed to hear about Gelato and will think twice about using them from now on. But I have your Hub training to look forward to so I’m sure that all will be revealed!!
awesome!! Yes everything will be! Thanks for joining :D
thanks! I am having a problem with POD you tubers having conflicting advise. Not knowing who to trust at this point.
I hear you. There’s a lot of voices. It’s tough
Great video Shimmy, I have nothing against Mark, I love generally his content and I know he is a great businessman but when it comes to POD he doesn't have enough experience to teach anyone. I am a POD seller myself, on Amazon, Etsy, Shopify, and all the rest and I cannot agree more with what you said in this video. It's clear that Mark was paid to say what he said, and it's a shame. I hope he understands that if he continues like that he might risk losing his audience.
yes i hope he does because I do really enjoy his content!
Me and some other members was just talking about this in the hub. glad you made a video on it. as someone that just started my store in the last week, this has been one of the biggest issues, everyone says there making all this money but no one shows there store or stats on sales. no one goes into details about the hidden cost or shows all the programs you need to pay for in order to make designs. took me 100s of videos before i learned about SEO how much shipping is based on your location ect.
Ye it’s a lot more complicated than a 30 min video
@@shimmymorris1 agreed. but its better then nothing. atleast someone ppl will know more now.
Go on with this good work. There are too many people in the internet who do not tell the plain truth and push others to make wrong decisions
Thank you so much for illustrating the profit margin nonsense. I wish people understood how much it actually costs with product price, shipping, fees, etc. Everyone thinks you make so much profit... it's frustrating. You explained it well. I subscribed to your channel because of that. Good work. I look forward to seeing more of your content.
Thank you!! Really appreciate that ☺️
I just started with POD and you are right that it's not a passive income as there is a lot of research you need to do for every design and quote you use. The biggest obstacle will be traffic, no traffic no sales no matter how great your designs are and that is where I am stuck, no traffic. I promote on other SM platforms and I get very little if any traffic. At the moment paid traffic is out of the question.
Open your own website
Great video. Would be great to see more like this. I have been down this Print on demand road several times, and spent a lot of time on hope, financial investment, and loss in finding out that a lot of these UA-cam influencer’s are misleading people because of greed. Please make more content like this to help others. Many thanks.
thanks for being sincere and for exposing this kind of scammers / scammy speech talking to beginners about duba and bugattis
And UA-cam does nothing about these fake youtubers.
He’s a legit guy and has a ton of awesome
Content. But ye it seems he strayed a bit from his lane in this video
I think a major problem is also that the average person does not have a lot of business sense (I.e running a business, hidden costs, taxes, etc), simply because they aren’t exposed to how a business runs, and so they fall into the trap of these videos and think these methods are easy/passive. It’s very easy to fall into this trap, especially if someone is unhappy with their current job.
I really liked the way you are highlighting the time frames. Many you tubers are doing videos and dripping them in by scheduling outdated content...because they can't be bothered to do a daily or weekly video and make it current... I love that your facts are current and real. Thanks 😊
I just got a Gelato advert on your midroll. Right as you said "there is a problem with them doing dodgy youtube sponsors" hahahahahaha
That's the one thing that pisses me off most about youtube, you should be required to say if your video is being sponsored by a company
You are so right because I just recently saw a UA-camr that was talking about POD and she doesn’t even do it herself so she has no idea how to do it.
Ye it’s those people that annoy me. Trying to jump on the bandwagon
I recently looked into starting an etsy shop and did a “free” consult. At the end of the 15 minutes of her employee sitting in what looked like a dorm room selling her course, she asked me was I ready to buy her $12,000 course. Oh, and to make it convenient for me, I could break it down into one of her payment plans…
Scammers… 🙄
YES...this! They have almost cost me my shop and I'm LIVID! None will reply to you either when they misinform you and you question them about it.-April
no course they wont! they never respond
Is there any advice you could give from your struggles? What was the mistake that almost cost you your shop?
I actually did watch the video, and I did not get this impression at all. He was not saying that his POD stores made millions; he was saying that he knows a thing or two about business (and he does), so certain tips that he gives are from some kind of knowledge. I think some of the clips used in this video are out of context.
But, I also learned many things from you, too, so I appreciate your help.
yes i agree, but some of his POD "tips" were wrong and misleading which can confuse people
Very smart im so glad you air this guy out 😂 I respect you buddy Im subscribing to your channel to be watching every single video you put out great content
I appreciate that! Thank you
I realised a while ago that all these "Make $10,000 a month with POD using Etsy" videos are a con. I'd be happy with a grand a month!
It’s possible! But a lot harder than his video suggests
I'd be happy with a sale. 🤣
Actually I had a 10k per month Etsy POD store but I worked like crazy. I mean like 20 hour days when I was off work from my part time job. All of the customer service expectations were crazy. I ended up closing my store because it was too much work.
@@howtoandwhatsnew couldn't you sell the store or get a business partner? 10k is money that may do not make on 9 to 5 jobs and would be happy to buy from you.
@@Nicole9_ He's obviously lying.
1000 listings on Etsy is $200 min. Why is he not mentioning that? You are right he is being dishonest.
He does mention it after. But it’s certainly not free to start as he claims
@@shimmymorris1he suckers people in and then after the spiel he quietly points out you need to drop a couple hundred bucks. He is a content creator now not a business adviser guru.
mad respect for your transparency!!
thank you!
I started this video a bit annoyed that you'd targeted Mark and assumed that you just misunderstood but now I've seen you break it down you make some great points, amazing content and well-presented
thank you for the transparency!
Thank you for bringing some value to the creative process and all the technical and nonsense that you have to go through just to put up a T-shirt and design it and do all the work. I’m glad you’re making people realize that it is a lot of work sometimes it doesn’t even feel like it’s worth it for the amount of profit. You make a good video.
thank you!
He, like others, realises that you can feed your audience whatever and they will believe it....Not only they will believe it but they won't question and the easier you present it to them the more they think it'sall possible and true!!! People don't even use their mind to think anymore.
Finally. Someone with some common sense
Thanks for the video shimmy i was thinking of doing print on demand you've opened my eyes a lot😅
i still think it's a great business model
I work from 7 am til at least 7 pm EVERYDAY of the week, that's not passive lol-April
The Shopify clowns are lying, too.
I have seen so many of these guys (Alura, the etsy data mining tool, showcases a lot too). I am a constant skeptic as it always sounds to good to be true. Though a few youtubers do seem to show more behind the scenes which is intriguing and feels more honest than the others. Great vid
i agree, if you use some pod platforms you can reduce the workload, but not extenguish it
there's still a ton of workload for sure
Its always 10k per month, and always AI/Etsy 🤣🤣🤣 Oh, or “stickers”, Ridiculous.
One other thing - the sites that show the data on each listing, don't take into account the store sale. So if the mug is on "sale" for 20% off, the actual sales price won't be the number they used to calculate profit for a listing - such as that mug. So that number can appear as much as 50% (or more) higher than the real amount of revenue.
I value authenticity above all else. This guy really makes me cringe. Thank you for sharing this video and for being so genuine and authentic.
you're welcome. his other content is really good
The first is do the foot work and set passive income as the end goal. I am very picky of the work I do and I’ll be putting pride on the product I’ll be selling. “No none would do job as you except to be done”
none of them show their store or provide a link to the store where you can buy
who?
Great video! I also like Mark but it is pretty clear he doesn't have much of a clue about pod
ye same! I really enjoy his stuff, but this video just frustrated me! people see through BS so easily these days
Unfollowing mark😉
Good video. Honestly, seeing this so called businessman sets all my alarms on fire as he notoriously uses the tactic of brain disablement with "dream life/situation" projection (driving Bugatti in Dubai) as from that point it's highly probable that people watching that would stop thinking and would believe this nonsense. It reminds me of Herbalife seller presentation or any pyramid schemes business models that would lie to incomers just to force them with such psychological tricks to pour the money in so the people on the top of the pyramid would benefit.
In his defence he never said own a bugatti he said drive lol😅
Personally, when I watched his video, I didn't assume print on demand was one of his streams of income. However, hearing your perspective of his video was really helpful because of the large amount of misinformation in this side of social media.
Does he disclose that he gets paid by gelato? He clearly is a fraud if he's not disclosing it.
Your honesty won me. Keep it up
thank you!
Pod is not passive income! You cant just sit around and money rolls in. You are 💯 % correct.
I watched his video last night and I saw a lot of discrepancies too. I’m a POD seller and his video made no sense and even made me angry. Thanks for calling him out.
Yup a ton!
Thank you so much for this video! It’s amazing that you told the truth as it is! ❤️
Thank you for this. Very necessary information.
You’re welcome. Glad you liked it
@@shimmymorris1 Very helpful. I see too many videos about how easy / passive Etsy is.
Thank you so much for this video
The first person you reacted to i just watched it a few days ago and had lots of questions
So thank you for answering my questions
You are so welcome! glad you liked it
@@shimmymorris1 i try my best to do research on the POD business subject and your videos are very appreciated and easy to understand
I just want people to read and enjoy my books and stories. It’s hard enough to get a sale or to not have someone steal your name or ideas.
Very important realistic perspective video!
I loved this commentary. Definitely entertaining and and educational 💯
Shimmy...thank you for this vid...also watched his , but felt very irritated by so much of what he was saying....so glad you pointed all this out. He says its easy....IT IS NOT!!!!!!
I print ts, sleeves, tags, direct to garment, and heat press. I’m quite curious what’s going on here…
If you set up your payment on etsy daily you will be paid next day so no upfront koney needed.The only thing is on weekends for ex if you have an order Friday etsy will pay you Monday
It's weird (and wrong) that UA-camrs try to sell POD as passive income!
Passive income would be like creating a digital book or an app. You create it once and walk away. There's no returns to deal with so it's as close to passive as one can get. Yes, you still work, but you don't have to lose time as youbdo with physical returns and customer service.
Great video. Another one needs to be made on people who are looking to get rich off of minimal efforts and shortcuts! Spam your way to success.
The ones who lack creativity, discipline and enduring persistence often fail or give up in a few months or a year without trying new ways or minor tweaks.
I see people fail all because they won't read! These same people will upload videos calling the whole thing a scam! If I opened a cake shop and it failed, I wouldn't call cake shops a scam lol. Theres so many factors involved.
You make very nice videos, Shimmy. One day, I'll tell you a funny story about your name 😊
So true. POD YT how-to's are complete BS. POD is a complete waste of time. You're much better off studying and getting a better job.
Oh that’s not at all where I was going with this video. Our main income is our POD business. If you know what your doing it can be a 6/7 figure business
If they all have such great businesses they wouldnt bother makimg youtube videos.
i hear you but sometimes people love making videos, i don't think the amount of money i have in my bank will stop me from making videos. I enjoy it, he might too. I don't doubt he's a multi millionaire, i just don't think he has a pod business
@@shimmymorris1I hear you. I love making content and teaching too ❤
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Thank you, Shimmy! 😀 Your depth of knowledge about print on demand is truly impressive!
Mark has this same problem with many of his videos. He zips over the topic and makes whatever he is talking about seem easy and simple, even for a beginner.
And Mark totally glossed over how to actually make a design for a T-shirt. 👕 😕
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I think it’s because he’s never made a design… it showed through
I literally just watched this video yesterday. Thank you so much shimmy!
Great video. People should be getting called out when needed
yes totally!
Exactly, as you mentioned, there's no proof that they made it, if a creator made something and used it in a tutorial, he'd put it in the description for people to support him.
Erm I dunno though. I never post my pod products because I know they’d get ripped off in seconds.
It’s hard to share certain things as it’s important to keep some details private
wow.... Thank you so very much for making this video. Thank you.
you're welcome!
Love your honesty! Thank you very much!
You are so welcome!
What does "chop it like it's hot" even mean? I've never heard that expression.
It's a play on "Drop it like it's hot" by Snoop Dogg - one of those rappers they have nowadays.
Great Video - just wanting to sell printed artwork and looking into it. Yeah the AI , sloppy design - it needs to be cool but its not. I am looking at some more of your vids to save some time and head in the right direction. Thanks for your honesty!
Love your videos, I started looking at your videos because I'm thinking about setting up a shop to sell my wife's art , as print on demand etc , number of art work is limited but is suitable for prints , mugs and clothing , so any tips would be helpful or a pointer to your videos for me to watch, keep up the great work .
nice one! good luck with it. You should join our free community, that'll give you some ideas as to where to get started :D
The only way to make that kind of money that fast is to sell trademarked designs... and it's not worth it. You'll get caught and lose everything you have and everything you ever hoped to have.
Thank you for making this video. I did recently watch Mark's video and I then started looking into having a Print On Demand shop. I wont be doing the print on demand business now.
It’s still a good business model. And I do recommend it for sure. Just make sure you’re getting advice from the right people. There’s a lot of good POD UA-camrs out there
@shimmymorris1 can you recommend me some please.
Thank you Shimmy for taking the time to debunk these myths around POD. I love your attention and depth of analysis.
Glad you like them! Really appreciate that
Hi there Shimmy, been a subscriber for a while. Fantastic information & UA-cam content, Thank You.
Does the element of having to pay from your own money apply to a Shopify store ?
We thought that when someone pays for item's, then it's the customer who pays first ?
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With Shopify you can get paid instantly via Paypal, or each day via Shopify payments. there will be an element of laying out or at least having a card connected to the printing partner, but it's not like Etsy
I think this aspect of Mark's video actually wasn't misleading. He just said you don't need to order the product until you've made the sale. He didn't specifically say that you'll have the funds to pay your printer at that time. Maybe that didn't bother me because I already know how POD works. ? I think Mark was just implying that you don't need to carry stock and wonder if it will sell. You already know you have a sale when you purchase the goods. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on that one.
This reminds me of those "grow your youtube" channels who've never actually grown a youtube channel other than the one they're using to teach others (using the same handful of regurgitated tips the all the other "gurus" are telling people). I find it so slimy.
00:02 Beware of misleading information in print on demand UA-cam videos
02:14 Beware of unrealistic promises in print on demand business.
04:20 Print on demand requires active work, not passive income.
06:27 Print on Demand business requires hard work, not passive income
08:39 The video is sponsored by gelato and discusses questionable marketing practices.
11:01 Print on Demand UA-camrs can be misleading about free design tools and cost of features.
13:17 Print on Demand UA-camrs are misleading about recommended products.
15:20 Avoid using Gilden 5000 for print on demand to prevent bad customer reviews and refunds.
17:25 Print on demand sponsorships may not be ethical
19:24 Print on demand UA-camr misrepresents data
21:19 Using Etsy as a testing ground before Shopify
23:11 Many UA-camrs mislead about print on demand, including the lack of emphasis on design creation and the potential for difficulty.
I never seen a video of yours before, but I’m very glad I found your channel as I’m doing the research into POD. I am in fact looking for as low-effort of a passive income stream as I can find, since I’m becoming a stay at home mum very soon, and it would be nice to have some extra money coming in.
But I’m glad to have my hopes dashed _now,_ before I try it and put in a lot of work at the start, and discover that it won’t be taking in even hundreds of dollars every month, with little work.
There may not be an actual method of “low effort“ “passive income“ out there, but I’ll keep doing my research and see what I can manage as a new mum. :)
congrats on being a new mum! I hate to be the one to say it but low effort, and passive income don't really go hand in hand, in fact, low effort and making money doesn't really go together either. If there's a low effort method out there, you can be sure the entire world would be doing it
@@shimmymorris1 - Yes… I _knew_ that, I just got pulled into the false hope other POD channels hand out that it really is easier and more passive than anything else. Ah well. I’d rather be told the truth!
exactly the question i posted in his video, 1000 listing at 19 p each would be a lot in a month.
Kudos to you for making this 👏
Why did you ment about him saying passive income ect when I watched that video and he states the he doesn’t claim that to happen with print on demand 2:33 confused
Probably asking their money now from the massive amount of subscribers verses the POD itself.
great video. honest reviews. you've gained a subs
Wow thank you!
Tune into next week's exciting episode and watch as Shimmy takes down Greg Gottfried and his hatred of Shopify 😂
On a more serious note, this is a great video and highlights that there are only a few proper print on demand channels that you should follow, such as this channel and UA-camrs like Philip Anders.
hahaha! thank you!! there's quite a few really good POD channels out there. Mark has a great channel, it's just not a POD channel
thank you............. far too much b.s online
That video of his popped up in my feed. I didn't watch it. I'm starting to realize there's a lot of BS being spread about POD. Having been doing it for the past 6 months and watching the so called gurus, I can say it's not like they proclaim. I've been weeding out those I think are full of it. Some popular youtubers I've stopped watching.
there's a lot unfortunately
Can you please recommend the top ones you trust? ❤
I'm having problems with Gelato, not directly with Gelato (they kindly reordered for free for the third time) but with the Italian courier GLS, that is one of the top player, very strange, my first order had no problems
I like aluminum posters