Thanks Wes Ive been wanting to try the ace of spades for a while now but was waiting to see an unbiased review from someone other than watl Keep up the great in depth reviews cant wait to see how many rotations I can get out of it
What’s the actual difference between something labeled a throwing axe and not? Hafted the same, uses the same hickory handles, has a wooden wedge. Regardless if it’s labeled a throwing axe or not doesn’t change the fact it was hafted incorrectly. Also doesn’t change the fact I’ve got many axes that I use for throwing that are not labeled for throwing but seem to do just fine.
@@MidgardAxe I have been throwing tomahawks, since the late 70's, early 80's. When I went through a Black Powder phase. I now own many tomahawks, and none of them use a wedge to secure the head to the handle. Its all friction fit. Or if that is not enough, a bit of hot glue. The problem with the wedge, as you found out, is it weakens the handle at just the wrong place. I have the Berserker axe from CRKT, and its friction fit to its handle. Will I throw it, I may try, but I am out of practice. I hope that more or less explains my point of view on the matter. Oh, and my father used to do two rotations, and he broke many a handle. I've never broken one, but I've dinged up a few. Good luck.
@@longrider42no disrespect in my opinion on this but I think you missed his point. You said it wasn’t labeled a throwing axe so maybe that’s the issue. He was asking you to tell him the difference between an axe that’s labeled a throwing axe and one that’s not when they are both hafted onto the handle. There are many throwing axes out there that are hafted traditionally on handles like the WATL axes. When it comes to hafted axes, regardless if it’s labeled throwing or not, they are still hafted the same…for the most part. HB has a traditional hafted 28” felling axe which is used in throwing competitions. Also the double bits Gransfors, HB and others produce labeled a throwing axe yet hafted the same as a traditional axe etc. council tool flying fox which he reviewed is sanctioned as a throwing axe and council tool says it can be used as a woodsman hatchet. Which is also hafted. I could go on You going into tomahawks really didn’t prove anything honestly. It’s a different beast. I don’t disagree with your assessment on tomahawks but trying to say tomahawks are throwing axes and traditional axes are not because they are not labeled such just doesn’t make sense to me. A hafted axe is a hafted axe. And it’s funny too how a lot of reviews on the Freyr axe I’ve seen shown broken handles around the same place his axe broke yet their reviews state they used it for chopping or similar work. I’ve never met anyone who throws axes on a regular basis that’s never broken a handle. Also just curious have you actually watched his content? Many an axes thrown and many came out just fine. Many axes hafted traditionally too. So I’m curious now, what’s the difference between a hafted axe not labeled a throwing axe and one that’s labeled a throwing axe? Not the bit profile or cheek design or straight/vertical handle. I’m talking hafted axes. Thanks for the debate!
@@longrider42 yeah I completely understand your view point on friction fit handled axes. I was just saying hafted axes and hafted axes labeled throwing axes are not hafted differently. And the point I was making which you mentioned was hafting an axe that high on the axe handle can cause issues. Thats why I haft mine on the shoulder. I don’t get breakage inside the axe eye when I do that.
Awsome stuff Looking forward to the heffting Wes!..congratulations Mike! 🎉
Thanks Dave
Great video Wes! Glad you had a good Yule. Congratulations to the winner!
Hope you and your family did as well! Axes coming your way as soon as I get to UPS 😂
Thanks Wes
Ive been wanting to try the ace of spades for a while now but was waiting to see an unbiased review from someone other than watl
Keep up the great in depth reviews cant wait to see how many rotations I can get out of it
No problem Mike! Can’t wait to see what you think about it! I may or may not have some more watl axes hanging out waiting for reviews 😂
@@MidgardAxe I was surprised when I seen you were reviewing a watl axe the butcher looks interesting too
No BS with Wes 😂 Keep the truth about this stuff…it makes you unique in a world where most are saying what someone pays them to say. Happy 2024 vän
I was waiting. Good to hear the truth.
i thought about getting one just havnt yet. nice review
Thanks. I would say as long as the head is good, then you should be good to go. They did a great job on the head
Just got one of these. Can you tell me how you got that polish and pulled the edge back?
I was going to buy this axe today and now I am now i am not . Thank you sir
Um, well, its not actually listed as a throwing axe. So maybe that's the problem?
What’s the actual difference between something labeled a throwing axe and not?
Hafted the same, uses the same hickory handles, has a wooden wedge. Regardless if it’s labeled a throwing axe or not doesn’t change the fact it was hafted incorrectly.
Also doesn’t change the fact I’ve got many axes that I use for throwing that are not labeled for throwing but seem to do just fine.
@@MidgardAxe I have been throwing tomahawks, since the late 70's, early 80's. When I went through a Black Powder phase. I now own many tomahawks, and none of them use a wedge to secure the head to the handle. Its all friction fit. Or if that is not enough, a bit of hot glue. The problem with the wedge, as you found out, is it weakens the handle at just the wrong place. I have the Berserker axe from CRKT, and its friction fit to its handle. Will I throw it, I may try, but I am out of practice. I hope that more or less explains my point of view on the matter. Oh, and my father used to do two rotations, and he broke many a handle. I've never broken one, but I've dinged up a few. Good luck.
@@longrider42no disrespect in my opinion on this but I think you missed his point. You said it wasn’t labeled a throwing axe so maybe that’s the issue. He was asking you to tell him the difference between an axe that’s labeled a throwing axe and one that’s not when they are both hafted onto the handle.
There are many throwing axes out there that are hafted traditionally on handles like the WATL axes. When it comes to hafted axes, regardless if it’s labeled throwing or not, they are still hafted the same…for the most part. HB has a traditional hafted 28” felling axe which is used in throwing competitions. Also the double bits Gransfors, HB and others produce labeled a throwing axe yet hafted the same as a traditional axe etc. council tool flying fox which he reviewed is sanctioned as a throwing axe and council tool says it can be used as a woodsman hatchet. Which is also hafted. I could go on
You going into tomahawks really didn’t prove anything honestly. It’s a different beast. I don’t disagree with your assessment on tomahawks but trying to say tomahawks are throwing axes and traditional axes are not because they are not labeled such just doesn’t make sense to me. A hafted axe is a hafted axe.
And it’s funny too how a lot of reviews on the Freyr axe I’ve seen shown broken handles around the same place his axe broke yet their reviews state they used it for chopping or similar work.
I’ve never met anyone who throws axes on a regular basis that’s never broken a handle. Also just curious have you actually watched his content? Many an axes thrown and many came out just fine. Many axes hafted traditionally too.
So I’m curious now, what’s the difference between a hafted axe not labeled a throwing axe and one that’s labeled a throwing axe? Not the bit profile or cheek design or straight/vertical handle. I’m talking hafted axes. Thanks for the debate!
@@longrider42 yeah I completely understand your view point on friction fit handled axes. I was just saying hafted axes and hafted axes labeled throwing axes are not hafted differently. And the point I was making which you mentioned was hafting an axe that high on the axe handle can cause issues. Thats why I haft mine on the shoulder. I don’t get breakage inside the axe eye when I do that.