@@winterleader7148and with Rodya's, Hong Lu's, Heathcliff whatever damage passive... It'll deal +100 damage!!! ... it's not a lot but pretty high for 00 Zwei ids
Zwei Ishmael will at least be good. I've heard good things about Zwei Gregor, mainly how tanky he is, but both he and Zwei Faust managed to have a more conscise gameplan and strategy (that is, stacking a lot of Defense Level Up to tank, and some Haste to make it easier to intercept attacks and protect others). I mean, if Zwei Gregor was picked as the ID used in RR4's Meta Company fight over more offensive IDs like Pirate or Heir, it's propably because he's doing something right.
Zwei Sinclair and Rodya suffer from season 1 syndrome of PM not knowing wtf they're doing with id kits, so now that they have 4 seasons of hindsight i can't see Zwei Ish being bad
@@Icannotdraw-ug3gj Maybe, but at least it should be a more defensive playstyle, since that's the Zwei Association's whole thing. Guess we'll just have to see next week.
@@maxoublue1Yeah, I wonder what her section will represent, since we already have straight up tanking with Zwei Greg, but we also have a dodge tank like Cinq Outis The only unique idea I can somewhat think is maybe Ish will play with counters?
It's funny that im currently doing a Zwei run but only Gregor and Faust... Like dawg, im not bringing Zwei Sinclair and Rodion in the team they suck doo doo balls.
What I think would be good is for Ish to have a passive that makes their defence lvl up affect their offence lvl, and protection to give them clash power equal to it. Zwei Greg might become op, but you will have to use all zweis, so it will be comparablr to Liu or Seven full teams. If they could make BL Outis good with Kimsault full team, then they can make 2 bat zweis good.
this might be a weird idea, but i think discard would be a cool idea for zwei ishmael. even if it’s just so that dieci passives can hit her, the idea of gaining defense level from discarding skills and then applying defense ups to the rest of the team with actual skills sounds like an interesting concept that hasn’t been explored too much
@@randomtraveler4683 firstly, no one is gonna let us anyway. Second, what is wrong with our cooking? Kitchen was on fire for a while since they released uptie 4 rime shank and 2 charge Ryoshu ids
I was just gonna recommend converting protection stacks to rupture count And defense up as rupture potency for a basic archetype conversion with zwei ish being a higher section leadership position since zwei currently is really only used by Gregor and maybe if your new Faust Changing them to have an offensive and defensive bonuses makes sense since zwei in library of ruina was defense focused true but also focused on working as a team to increase their cohesion Since defense skills can’t clash to allow damage dice I feel this is a pretty good concession the alternative is to outright take steps to change how defense works significantly since block is meme tier awful in a lot of situations
I expect the ish to give defense level up and able to redirect any attack towards a ally to herself taking the damage for them It would thematically fit for Zwei and it being based on Knights
Tbh zwei gregor and faust are both amazingly fun but sadly are bad because of the fact that they can't actually ramp up defense level like their kits make you think they will. Hopefully zwei ishmael or a future thing will change their defense level up so that it goes down every turn by a flat amount or percentage rather than completely deleting it.
And with Ishmael here now? We can all say that… nothing really changed? She practically just builds herself all on her own, and the zwei might help an itty-bit
Is it even possible to save Zwei at this point? LIke the south section is so all over the place she'd probably be better off waiting for the rest of the west boys
@@shamrocksardonic2582I feel rodya could be saved with a good poise up ego She still wouldn’t be great but I can see her having some shield health via that poise Sinclair even with the frogo ego Jesus I don’t think anything can fix that
Honestly the only problem with Zwei team is the lack of IDs for it. And Zweiclair. Rodya has good rolls for a 00 ID, save her S1 that you can either ignore entirely with one of the strongest blocks in the game or just do one-sided attacks with it, and if you give her slot priority then she RAPIDLY becomes almost indestructable. Faust has perfectly average S1 and 2 for a 00 with a really good S3 for a 00 ID. Gregor has surprisingly high DPS with his many coins, if you roll all heads with his S2 it does _42 damage._ Sinclair's the weakest member of the team, and he'd legitimately just go from offensively bad to aggressively average if his S2 got +1 coin power to roll 12 instead of 10. At his current state, he's a bench warmer because of his amazing passive. He's built for one-sided attacks and that's _just bad design_ in this game.
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Ishmael, please save us.
Ishmael if you can hear me, please save us.
You…
HEATHCLIFF!!
@@Princess_Of_The_Parade Ah, so you’ve come. I’ve been expecting you… Let us finish this HERE and NOW!
*Clashing and coins flip noises*
_ooooh round and round we go.._
@@Infestivityholding on to pain
Save the Zwei society, Ishmael
….Cathy….
@ErlkingOfTheWildHunt Who is ■■■■■?
@@Princess_Of_The_Parade Who are you talking to? There’s no one there
what? who is this
Ah zwei greg, my goat for canto 1-3 along with Nsault. God the zwei sound effects are awesome
fights are so long without overpowered tier 4 gifts that it's unusual to see normal MD footage nowadays
SAVE THE ZWEI ASSOCIATION, GREGOR!!!
Zwei Ishmael has the passive that gives all Zwei IDs 99 clash power
Atk weight +99 can hit a single skill slot more than once
@@winterleader7148and with Rodya's, Hong Lu's, Heathcliff whatever damage passive...
It'll deal +100 damage!!!
... it's not a lot but pretty high for 00 Zwei ids
strong strike
rolls a 22
17 damage
Zwei Sinclair
With a crit
"watashi wa no Zwei Association" -ishmael probably
Zwei Ishmael will at least be good. I've heard good things about Zwei Gregor, mainly how tanky he is, but both he and Zwei Faust managed to have a more conscise gameplan and strategy (that is, stacking a lot of Defense Level Up to tank, and some Haste to make it easier to intercept attacks and protect others). I mean, if Zwei Gregor was picked as the ID used in RR4's Meta Company fight over more offensive IDs like Pirate or Heir, it's propably because he's doing something right.
Zwei Sinclair and Rodya suffer from season 1 syndrome of PM not knowing wtf they're doing with id kits, so now that they have 4 seasons of hindsight i can't see Zwei Ish being bad
I mean, theres always the chance that zwei ismael isnt defense level up and speed, due to being from a different region of the city (west)
@@Icannotdraw-ug3gj Maybe, but at least it should be a more defensive playstyle, since that's the Zwei Association's whole thing. Guess we'll just have to see next week.
@@maxoublue1Yeah, I wonder what her section will represent, since we already have straight up tanking with Zwei Greg, but we also have a dodge tank like Cinq Outis
The only unique idea I can somewhat think is maybe Ish will play with counters?
@@awesomehazimex7410shield tank has potential they did a little with Sinclair frogo ego
team of losers, and certified clash lose-winner, gregor. love ya, gregor.
Bring this man to the top!!
With this Zwei team, I summon.... fucking Saber from Fate/Stay Night
Ishmael Zwei: I ask of you, are you my master?
ishtoria
Zwei Ishmael shows up and puts the enemies in their places by herself.
It's funny that im currently doing a Zwei run but only Gregor and Faust...
Like dawg, im not bringing Zwei Sinclair and Rodion in the team they suck doo doo balls.
Ishmael gonna pull up with the Giants Dad build from DS1
What I think would be good is for Ish to have a passive that makes their defence lvl up affect their offence lvl, and protection to give them clash power equal to it. Zwei Greg might become op, but you will have to use all zweis, so it will be comparablr to Liu or Seven full teams. If they could make BL Outis good with Kimsault full team, then they can make 2 bat zweis good.
this might be a weird idea, but i think discard would be a cool idea for zwei ishmael. even if it’s just so that dieci passives can hit her, the idea of gaining defense level from discarding skills and then applying defense ups to the rest of the team with actual skills sounds like an interesting concept that hasn’t been explored too much
You guys should never be allowed to cook again
@@randomtraveler4683 this hatin energy is crazy
@@randomtraveler4683 firstly, no one is gonna let us anyway. Second, what is wrong with our cooking? Kitchen was on fire for a while since they released uptie 4 rime shank and 2 charge Ryoshu ids
I was just gonna recommend converting protection stacks to rupture count
And defense up as rupture potency for a basic archetype conversion with zwei ish being a higher section leadership position since zwei currently is really only used by Gregor and maybe if your new Faust
Changing them to have an offensive and defensive bonuses makes sense since zwei in library of ruina was defense focused true but also focused on working as a team to increase their cohesion
Since defense skills can’t clash to allow damage dice I feel this is a pretty good concession the alternative is to outright take steps to change how defense works significantly since block is meme tier awful in a lot of situations
I expect the ish to give defense level up and able to redirect any attack towards a ally to herself taking the damage for them
It would thematically fit for Zwei and it being based on Knights
I shall protect the zwei association and have a good zwei identity!
Tbh zwei gregor and faust are both amazingly fun but sadly are bad because of the fact that they can't actually ramp up defense level like their kits make you think they will. Hopefully zwei ishmael or a future thing will change their defense level up so that it goes down every turn by a flat amount or percentage rather than completely deleting it.
Kim ji-hoon! Give me zweimael with 2+ Atk Weight defensive skill and my life is yours!
This team is good (so bad I am distorting) ❤
quite sure shes not kind a director or captain, mentor and something like that so shes a like rodya devyat, just new mechanic.
Ishmael the savior
And with Ishmael here now? We can all say that… nothing really changed? She practically just builds herself all on her own, and the zwei might help an itty-bit
inb4 zwei ishmael inflicts all status with one hit and its a minus coin
Is it even possible to save Zwei at this point? LIke the south section is so all over the place she'd probably be better off waiting for the rest of the west boys
I thought she's from north
@@nemuiexeShe's west
Zwei Faust and Gregor are genuinely savable and I mean that fully unironically. Zwei Sinclair and Rodya though.........
@@shamrocksardonic2582I feel rodya could be saved with a good poise up ego
She still wouldn’t be great but I can see her having some shield health via that poise
Sinclair even with the frogo ego Jesus I don’t think anything can fix that
Honestly the only problem with Zwei team is the lack of IDs for it. And Zweiclair.
Rodya has good rolls for a 00 ID, save her S1 that you can either ignore entirely with one of the strongest blocks in the game or just do one-sided attacks with it, and if you give her slot priority then she RAPIDLY becomes almost indestructable. Faust has perfectly average S1 and 2 for a 00 with a really good S3 for a 00 ID. Gregor has surprisingly high DPS with his many coins, if you roll all heads with his S2 it does _42 damage._
Sinclair's the weakest member of the team, and he'd legitimately just go from offensively bad to aggressively average if his S2 got +1 coin power to roll 12 instead of 10. At his current state, he's a bench warmer because of his amazing passive. He's built for one-sided attacks and that's _just bad design_ in this game.