Killer question indeed. First I would look at what competition is on the market, find out if there is anything cheaper and of the same quality. If not and if this bag ticked all of the boxes, then yes I would spend £400, but remember that this is my job so I can justify it. 4 years ago... probaby not.
It's simply the best bag of its type on the market *IF* the sizing is right for you. Most so called hiking camera bags don't have metal framing, and aren't really hiking bags. This bag is awesome... if the hip straps fit properly. Quality is top notch, design is good, and pricing is about what you'd expect given what you get in the market. Mine has help up in all sorts of weather from snow, mud, sand. I do wish it had some smaller internal organizers.
@@ThomasHeatonPhoto I bought this for £299 and it includes a rain cover. I've not discovered a limitation but I don't carry a drone and extra camera. www.wexphotovideo.com/lowepro-powder-bp-500-aw-backpack-grey-orange-1675127/
Glad you gave it 6 months before talking about it. So many social media present photographers post 'My favourite/best bag' only to 6 months later post a video with a new bag after they've discovered issues with the previous bag.
Bought the F:Stop Lotus 2 years ago. Fantastically comfortable fully laden with everything - large ICU (D750 +7 lenses) + snack/packable jacket, or Medium ICU (landscape gear - fewer lens but filters etc.) with food/extra clothing. Tripod in side pocket, water bladder for hydration and I'm set for an all day hike, or up the mountain skiing/snowboarding, or at the beach etc. Expensive - yes - but buy over time - bought medium ICU and added custom accessories as needed later. This bag looks as good as new 2 years on using average 3-4 times a week! Happy days!
At last, a fellow bag collector, my wife finally understands after watching your video 3 times. We need bags, more bags and time to play with them. Then filling them, the wife has serious issues with my efforts. A great video.
I love how every photographer on u tube has a “best” camera bag video and they are all different. Opinions based on personal taste over time. It is funny to watch them
This bag rocks! It's so light! Taken round the world for years, with no issues to speak of. Best camera gear buy I've had. Can't speak highly enough of them. Small Pro ICU and Medium slope ICU is also a great combo on the inside...
Nice review Thomas, very thorough and reflects the time you have spent with it. For those who might care... I have had the F-Stop Tilopa (first version) for 4 years now. It's my constant companion on long treks, traveled on everything from float planes, zodiacs, sailboats, commuters, and jets. I've hiked hundreds of miles with it and used it in every imaginable climate extreme. As a wildlife photographer who shoots in frigid snow, rain, and the tropics, the bag has not let me down... With four years of hard use, the pack itself still looks good and the insert continues to maintain its integrity. I'll easily get more years out of the bag... very worth the price of admission!
Thomas, No lie - Before seeing this video today, Yesterday I bought a used Tilopa and medium ICU for $75. I have been using a smaller 37L Loka with a large ICU. I plan to swap the ICUs back and forth. I have really enjoyed the F-Stop back pack design and I kept wondering why you were not. Now, you are. Your UA-cams are the first ones I look for - Keep it up!
RE: Your comment about the MOLLE webbing in the rear access. I designed this pack about 7 ago and can clarify the webbing is to attach a toploader for use in situations where you do not pack an ICU. You just pack a toploader attached to the rear access. Not a common move for landscape photogs but very handy for backcountry action sports where you need more mtn gear than camera. Hope that helps :)
that makes absolute sense now. Ive got the anja and been thinking of how to utilize the molle webbing. I tried to put a thin maxpedition pouch that i had, and found it interfered with the icu. Cant wait to go on a lightish weight multi day camping trip, now that i know i can bring the camera. That action x 30 has me intrested. probably could replace my guru ul with that.
Maybe this should be on the website of fstop ? I mean I watched loads of photos and videos and no actually shows what this could be for.. I mean from marketing point of view as a customer I want to see easily pictures of whatever options in could be especially with these ICUs. I live quite far from a store where I could try it myself and I have been deciding between Lowepro Whistler and Fstop Anja or Tilopa and when I saw Whistler I saw pictures of Skitouring gear inside, camelbak bladder, extra jackets, with camera all lying on the snow which makes me think "hey this is exactly what I want to do" Now I see it in the video "review Tom W Carey" shows you actually don´t need the raincover. Having snow on the bag with no raincover.. Show us new customer how you attach gear, what kind of gear you had in mind when designing the webing because I truly can´t imagine that well maybe because I haven´t been to such situation or maybe I am not that much of a well organised person :) Cheers and thanks for visiting comment section!
I've owned my Tilopa for nearly 4 years now and it is the best camera bag I've ever owned. It carries a lot of kit and distributes the weight well. It's had a hard life and while it looks a bit dirty, it all works as well as the day I bought it. I agree with Thomas though that the price is expensive, but given how long I've been using it and how much longer I plan to use it the cost was probably worth it.
The F-Stop does look like a great bag. I just got the Wandrd 31L and I love it. It is the most I have ever spent on a camera bag but it fit my needs so perfectly. A couple of other UA-camrs I follow use it and they are the ones that got me interested in it. If I needed anything bigger I would definitely go for this one, but that price would keep me from it. $300 USD is tops I would ever pay for a camera bag, call me cheap if you want but just don't think any bag is worth more than that.
Hi Tom, been using my Tilopa for a little over 6 months, when flying I removed the aluminium frame very easily, just another option, stored it in my main luggage and then 2 mins to re insert it. I have managed UK summer wild camping with it both using a tarp and one trip with a Hillerberg Soulo tent. I just love the bag and its ruggedness with great easy access to gear. Small ICU that holds my A73, 16-35, 24-105 & 70 - 200, Kase Master Filter Kit in a Mindshift bag.
Simple is good. I’ve recently started using a smaller camera backpack, and it makes a world of difference coming from a large full size bag that carries everything.
I saw one in the local camera shop second hand with the tags still on. I thought, is that not the bag TH uses, came home and checked all I could and couldn't find any mention of which bag you use. Thought he seems to like it so went and picked it up for £100. really pleased you have this video now. And no there is no rain cover !
Shimoda Explore 60 Backpack is the same deal great quality from what I can see but crazy expensive. Base bag is $320 + $75 for a Medium Core + $50 for a Small Core + $9 for a rain cover = $454 Camera/Hiking bags are certainly an obsession! :-)
Came to the comments to see if anyone suggested a Shimoda bag. I really like my Explore 40 for shorter hikes and biking around, and I'm sure the 60 would be great for longer treks like the one Thomas mentioned in the video.
I've had my Tilopa for several years and LOVE it. Indestructible and carries anything I could possibly want. I've had NO trouble getting into the overheads on full size jets. Regional jets are another story. I've gotten it to fit, but it's been a bit of a cram. I recently picked up an Atlas Athlete for when I am carrying a smaller kit.
I've had my Tilopa for two years now and love it. I've used it for overnight camps but not multiday. It's a rugged beast, the swiss army knife of camera bags!
This is like watching a heroine addict reviewing heroine for other addicts. I bought yet another camera bag a week ago and now I want a new camera backpack, even though I've bought my protactic two months ago after retiring my Vanguard. We need therapy, all of us.
I bought the fstop sukkah for a wild winter photography adventure and it fitted everything I needed and more. The 3L water bladder I fitted was a welcome inclusion. Nothing but praise for fstop and after buying countless bags I am completely happy with this one.
I got the Guru and my bag must of been built on a Monday. The customer service is superb. It is best bag I have had so far and it is great for traveling, better then my Lowepro or Think Tank bags.
I've had a Tilopa for over a year, can't say enough good things about it. The only thing I haven't had it out in is a torrential downpour, but it's handled gentle rain and drizzle without needing the cover. Lots of room, rides well, and access to everything is easy.
My Ajna allowed my stuff to get damp-not wet- earlier this year in the Lake District drizzle. I have now bought a very cheapo Chinese rain cover that is every bit as good as the ones that come with LowePro bags.
100% agree with your positives and negatives Thomas, I've had my Ajna for over a year now and it is brilliant. I carry my GFX 50S with 23mm, 32-64mm and 100-200mm plus a complete Lee 100 filter kit. There's loads of room for extras I can even fit my X-T2 with 16-55 and a Leica M9 with 35mm plus drinks and snacks and a bit of extra clothing. Obviously I don't Vlog so no need for the extras like Drones etc. Like most of us I've tried them all over the years but am settled with the F-Stop now.
Thomas, Try to remember that many photographers are hobbyists and don't spend anything like this kind of money on a bag. We need to know what affordable bags are out there. I've been a Lowepro fan for over 10 years and have three plus a Vanguard which is on ebay as it was a freebie and too small. I have a large shoulder bag, a small shoulder bag, and a medium size backpack, all bought in nearly new condition on Ebay for £15, £12 and £24 respectively. My backpack is very very close to your old Lowepro backpack in size and like you, this one I love. The other bags come into use when on holiday and limited gear is being carried, and sometimes when the backpack holds everything in the boot of the car, and usually the medium shoulder bag is then used to carry a selection from the main bag, at a particular stop along the way. Despite their ages, these bags are still holding up really well, and double as a safe haven when the gear is at home, the padding in Lowepro bags is superb. I cannot for the life of me see anyone spending £400 ++ for a bag, they must be joking! Also bear in mind that a lot of serious photographers (the hobby kind) are nearing or have reached retirement age (when lump sums and good pensions allow gear purchases more readily) and these people are not mountain goats anymore - they have a physical limitation on what can be carried any distance, and moreover, if serious, they'll be toting a relatively heavy full frame plus lenses, without the tripod, which of course they'll need. Your views are clearly directed to like minded souls who are a little younger, and maybe thinking of going professional, but for the rest of us, as you showed us in the earlier part of the video, maybe a really good look at Lowepro gear (including used, on eBay) would be a better place to start. For those unfamiliar with Lowepro, they are padded all around, and the dividing strips inside the bags are velcro secured, so you can configure and re-configure a bag as your needs change.
Thomas 14:26 that strings are use when you don’t want to use the ICU, then you attach there the Fstop lens barrel with the fstop Navin or only the Navin ( dsrl + 1 lens attach) when you don’t need to take all your gear, so you have massive space for your clothes and use as a mountain backpack. I have the same Tilopa bag and the guru for street photography. And I keep using the icu I already have. I hope the comment help you. Cheers from Argentina!
I've had a Tilopa for over a year and it's by far the best bag I have ever had, I had a car accident on Mull years ago and have had a bad back ever since so a good backpack is all I can use to carry my gear, I tried Tenba and two lowepro bags but they all killed my back in no time, with the Tilopa I can walk all day with all the gear I need and that is before I have fastened the hip belt, it didn't quite cost me £400 but I would buy it again without hesitation.
This guy has more camera bags than I do. This makes me feel better about a recent purchase of a small think tank backpack called the “side path” it is small and light and will hold my Fuji Xt3 with grip plus several zooms and a jacket. The whole load with gear doesn’t weight over 6-8 pounds so this old body can carry it all day through the woods. The bigger the bag the more you will carry. Travel simply and lightly and you will travel further and bring back better images.
I have the Anja, it is a great bag, but as you have pointed out expensive. I agree with your comment about the lack of a rain cover it should be included in the price, the bag can have a water bladder inserted but I prefer a water bottle but there are no elasticated pockets on the outside of the bag where a bottle could be inserted. You can use the bag's MOLLE system to attach a bottle bag this can go on the hip belt. The MOLLE attachment points allow you to customise the bag for a variety of uses, if you just want the rucksack you can use the attachment points in the lid to secure packs and other small items that you don't want to search for in the bag. I believe that the MOLLE system is used by the US Military so there are a multitude of accessories available that are not photography related. Overall I have to agree that the bags are very comfortable, very durable and great for photography especially if you are a landscape photographer.
Not sure if people hate on Peak Design, but their Travel Pack 45L. It also uses the cube system and offers waterproof zips and material. Easy access via back fold and/or side zips. Cost is $299, med camera cube is $60.
I got my Tilopa in Jan 2010 and used it for 8 years. It saw everything a volcano can throw at it along with beach and high altitude snow. Even though it never quite fit me I hauled tons of gear in it. Usually 50+ lbs. The ease of accessing all gear was fantastic. Even when raining using either an umbrella and the rain cover it was great. Yes, it was expensive $240 back then but I used it as my primary bag for 8 years and never felt the need to waste money on other bags. It finally just wore out. It's still usable. Just some zippers are now stuck and there's a hole worn into the bottom corner. Now I have the Atlas Athlete because it just fits me better and still has great camera gear access. Extra gear not as easy but, still good and my tripod fits inside. That's great for hiking through dense rain forests. The better fit is important for long hikes. It compresses well too when hauling less gear. Not cheap but, built very well. I expect it to last 8 years. Honestly, the rain cover isn't an issue. Anyone who has a collection of bags has an even larger collection of rain covers. Accessory straps too.
Have you looked at the Lowepro Whistler BP 450 AW? It is also quite expensive, but it's massive, and I haven't had any problems at airports, yet (I usually fly with Norwegian). The only thing is, that I'm too thin for the hip-belt, and there are no bottom-fastening-points (for a tent for example). The bag has 4 main compartments, a top compartment, a small side (almost a pocket) compartment, a fairly large, extendable front compartment, and, at last, the camera compartment, which holds my Nikon D750, Tamron 24-70 f2.8, Nikon 105mm f2.8 macro, Tamron 100-400mm, and a small nifty-fifty, plus accessories, such as ND-filters, filters, batteries etc.. It holds them surprisingly well, and there's room for more. This bag actually has a rain cover, which you don't need, because it is almost waterproof (if you dunk it in a pool, no (you get the point)). I like it, but as I mentioned, it cannot carry a tent, which means it is a one-day-bag, not a multiple day bag.
I go back and forth between the Lowepro Whistler 450 and Powder 500. I agree with you on the Whistler and then they came out with the Powder which is a backcountry touring designed bag. It holds a little less camera gear but gives you more room for other things like spare clothes, food/snacks, etc.
@@brian.walker Great, thanks for the answer, I may look into that. I am actually in need of a little more space for other things than camera gear, so that might be exactly the right bag, going by Lowepro.
@@nicolahguy It's been a good one. I just have an issue with the shoulder straps sliding a little and not holding tight. I think I have fixed the issue though
Great video, Thomas! I've owned multiple f-stop bags over the years. Two additional cons that come to mind: zipper durability and weight. Over time the zippers will "get stuck" and you'll need to spend time cleaning them. I don't know the best solution for this but it's something that's common especially if you shoot near the ocean. And, I use the Loka (old Ajna) most of the time with the smallest ICU I need to keep the weight down when hiking, for example. This is totally nit-picky but I wish f-stop would work on weight savings on both the bags & ICUs. Otherwise, IMHO they are worth every cent!
I also have a an F-Stop Tilopa, and for me, it's the best bag I've ever used. Actually, mine did come with a rain cover, however, it's still in the plastic bag it came in. Even with the rainy weather here in Vancouver, I've never had any issues water ingress. One thing you didn't mention is that the bag has an interior tubular aluminum frame which makes it very sturdy. Never had any problems with carry on restrictions either, even on the smaller turbo props. Anyway, enjoy your bag, good choice....
I've been using an Ajna for almost 2 years. Cost a bunch of $$ and i've never looked back. Best bag ever. (Shimoda are amazing too, but for even more $$). Also Tom, the webbing on the inside flap is the Mole System (military), as i'm sure someone else in the comments has mentioned already. Very universal attachment system. (I use mine for sharpies, screwdrivers and t-handled hex keys for tripod plates, a mini multi screwdriver and an old toothbrush (for cleaning filter threads and the like) . I've also been on some pretty small planes with it (Lukla), and the ICU comes out nice and fits under the seat perfectly if needed. Best landscape shooters bag ever in my humble opinion. (and i've owned A LOT) 🇨🇦
I have the f-stop Lotus for 6 months now and I am so happy with it. It’s the perfect bag for hiking and active photographers. I did a lot of research before I bought it and don’t regret it. I agree in adding the raincover. I don’t have it, because the fabric is waterproof. But it would feel safer with one.
I wondered where your bag journey would bring you. I too started with a Lowepro. Well actually, I started with a Trapper Nelson as a youth, an instrument of torture and obligatory right of passage back near the middle of the previous century. I too found no satisfactory solution for outdoor photography until I discovered F-Stop. Not only does it carry the full complement of photography and personal gear one needs for a day outdoors, it is a pleasure to work out of. When I first pick it up fully loaded my initial reaction is, “Damn this is heavy!” But with shoulder straps and waist belt adjusted the weight (almost) disappears. It is the most comfortable pack I have ever owned. I’m dropping mine off today to have one side pocket zipper replaced (broken tooth) and waist belt buckle replaced (stepped on and slammed in the truck door once too often). The next couple weeks I will be suffering F-Stop withdrawal. You reminded me these bags are expensive. When a piece of gear performs so well and delivers such satisfaction over years the original sticker shock has long faded from memory and become irrelevant.
Nice bag, and a proper review: 6 months of hard use! Respect. Got me thinking of putting a low cost camera gear insert into a relatively low cost ski mountaineering pack, which also has the rear panel opening feature. Success! Thanks for the inspiration!
Finding the perfect camera bag for landscape photography can be a struggle. Some have plenty space for camera gear but not enough for clothes, food etc. and vice versa. That's an expensive bag but I can see why you like it, the amount of space looks great.
Also had a long journey of bags and finally purchased the little bit smaller F-Stop Lotus for ~120€ (used but perfect conditions - those things dont brake). On top an 3rd party ICU for 15 € which perfectly does the job. And yes, also finally arrived!
I have the 32L lotus and swear by it after going through about 7 bags over the last 15 years. F-stop makes the most functional/durable bag and worth the cost as I won't buy another for a very very long time. The bag has traveled internationally and been abused while deep into american deserts - and looks/functions like new. I used the webbing for when I don't have camera gear in the bag - great for clipping crap for easy access.
I bought one after I sold my f-stop Anja. Seriously good bag without the need for inserts....and extra cash for the cover. Best bag easily in my opinion, better than the f-stop..and cheaper.
I have a F Stop bag and they are great. Mine is like six years old and still looks great. But I just do photography as a hobby and don’t use it everyday. They are expensive but they are worth it and they do make different sizes.
I use that same old school black LowePro ProRunner 450AW. 10+ years as well! For many years and after trying many others and I keep coming back to it. Now I'm curious about the f-stop!
I have this bag’s smaller cousin, the Ajna, which might be easier on people’s pockets. I love it, with a couple of downsides: It took months and months to arrive directly from the company (I have heard since then that this is an improved situation) ; the shoulder straps seem a little thinner than I’d like; I’m not entirely keen on the suggested side-carrying option for the tripods. I ended up buying additional short and long attachment straps and two of these help hold my Gitzo Mountaineer tightly to the backpack; Finally, would have really liked a height adjustable frame. It is just a little too long for me. Now having said all that, the Ajna remains a much loved backpack that I even take shopping as well as camera hiking. I also have a Shimoda 40l, which I believe is designed by the gentleman who helped bring the F-Stop bags on the market. That one does have adjustable height straps but fewer attachment points. And I’ts possibly even more expensive than the Tilopa. I also think its ICU’s are inferior. (I use the F-Stop ones between the two). It’s honestly a truly difficult choice deciding which one suits my needs most on any given day as they are both just so damn comfortable to wear and so very versatile. I do know this though, I wouldn’t choose ANY other backpack maker for my cameras over these two brands for a long day’s trek in the wilderness. The Molle style attachment straps in the main compartment lid are designed for holding F-Stops mini 1 camera + short lens holster, if I recall aright. Tried it and it works fine when travelling with minimal camera gear. 😊
Listen up, F-Stop. You wanted Thomas' opinion, use the feedback. Fine video, Thomas. Bags are a life long thing with me. Bags for travel, for hiking, for camera, whatever. Always looking for THE bag. Have not found it yet, but I accept that there may be no such thing. So I have been looking for the best compromise in all categories, I guess. Thanks for posting.
The F-Stop is amazing. This thing is super heavy duty and wicked comfy for long hikes,etc... 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Keep doing what you're doing. I love your videos. So informative. Thank you for what you do. All the best🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 Dan
I have the Manfrotto 30L off-road bag and I love it. If you don't have a ton of equipment, but just want to carry a few lenses with a dSLR, it's absolutely perfect. Plus you can remove the camera bag portion and use it as a day pack if you want. Really versatile bag.
Over the many years I have acquired a heck of a lot of Camera Bags! I think I am nearing 30. And while some have disappointed me, I have realized that none I perfect (especially when you are a general shooter like myself shooting wildlife, landscape, architectural, macro, street, abstract, still life). Just last night I purchsed yet another one and am considering 1 or 2 others. I have come to see all the "good ones" as having rather specialized application based on destination, weather, mode of travel, subject, equipment, and my mood. Incidentally, though I have fome expensive bags, I have found many very good cheap bags as well. The new rear loading bag I just ordered was less than $50. I'll see how good it turns out to be. I would advise steering away from all the "Kick-Starter" bags because, as I found-out, getting your money back from a failed product that never got to production or that did not live up to advertising can be very difficult, if not impossible.
I use the Lowepro Whistler BP 450 AW. So much room, anything you need you can take. So many adjustments to fit me (a fairly small person) properly. Well worth the £300 I paid for it, never thought i'd fall in love with a backpack!
Have it for 4 years now with a middle sized ICU. Green. Put some extra padding on the straps. Great (perhaps ultimate?) backpack for daytrips, but not longer hikes or hikes with heavy gear plus tent underneath and tripod etc. The hip belt is to small and the straps as well. For this I bought a regular backpack from Tatonka.
I use the F-Stop Ajna, It too doesn't come with a rain cover, But its the best camera bag I've used and its strong yet more importantly it is comfortable on long hikes. I have the Large Pro and Med Slope ICU's and they both serve a purpose. I tend to use the Med Slope ICU during the winter months when I need to pack more gear to keep me warm and dry. Thanks for sharing Thomas. .
The f-stop is a great bag, for sure, Thomas. I nearly got that bag for myself -- until, that is, I discovered Atlas Packs camera bags. I just used an Atlas Athlete (40L) in Iceland for three weeks ("Best camera bag for travellers" according to National Geographic) and it is a complete dream to use! It has all the advantages of the f-stop, but is even better suited for hiking, with tons of space for other gear, expandable/shrinkable for carry-on, and ... it has an integrated rain cover! There is also a larger 70L pack (the Adventure - ") which would have been *perfect* for your 4 day trip. (The downside: they are just as eyewateringly expensive as the f-stop!). But you do get what you pay for.
I have an old f-stop Tilopa and my regular shooting buddy has the Atlas Adventure. I'm more jealous of the adventure than he is of the Tilopa. LOL Both great companies but I agree with the decision to get an Atlas, if I was buying a bag today. Even the adventure packs down to carry on size, it's pretty awesome.
The Previous Generation, the F-Stop Saitori. Solves ALL of your Qualms on this bag! Not sure if it came with a rain cover, but i dropped mine in a river and all of my gear was more than fine! I often shoot in the rain with it too!
The age old bag question! I ended up going with the Mammut trion pro 50+7L after seeing Adam Gibbs using one for a while. Very similar to the tilopa, but not actually a camera bag - just a similar dimensioned hiking bag with a back entry which can fit the same inserts. I've been really happy with it!
Twenty Years ago, using a medium format camera and 4 lenses, film, filters,etc, I used a very small camera bag.That was placed inside a “real” panel loading (full zip, not top loading) Kelty Red Wing back pack with 2 side pockets, which you could slide a tripod behind, and two panel pockets. It had two metal stays that were formed specifically for your back by the folks at the store where I bought the pack. So it was custom set up just for your body. Plenty of room for food, clothing, water bottles, etc. I just used it in Iceland, but now with digital gear.
Hi Thomas, indeed a great bag! A tip for even more compression: you can take the metal support for the back out. This way you can take off ~10 cm without compressing it so tightly.
Personal preference: I always think of me, my back and shoulders first and foremost. I have studied many camera bags in stores and all of them have had padding and ergonomics that was nowhere near the level of a dedicated non-photo gear backpack company (Bergans or Deuter). I live with the pain of finding the gear in my backpack knowing that I have prioritized me and my back/shoulders over my gear.
Nice one. Bags are hard work. I just got back from 10 days in the Swiss Alps, and my cheapo bag let me down in some style - not a mistake I'll be making again, and ditto my bloody tripod head, which it turns out is totally useless for panos. Buy nice or buy twice folks. Thanks for putting the miles in Tom!
I tell people the same thing. Thomas’s current bag looks ideal! I use to mind shift gear 180 bags. My current favorite when I don’t want to set my bag down in mud or sandy beaches. Link in my video description if you want to check it out.
The webbing on the flap looks like its PALS webbing, commonly used on military gear. It's so you can attach pouches for various purposes. Customizable to your heart's content. 👍
Mind shift 26L and 36L bags are super efficient and the camera/lens area is very customizable. Reasonably priced and they do come with a water tight slip over shell.
I'll stay with my Lowepro Runner. It has never fail me and holds all my equipment for Music Shows and Fashion/Modeling. Great video as always. Keep it up!!
great video.. you just made me more happy with my new-to-me LowePro Protactic 450 AW (I got it on sale!) the "tactical" means you can strap stuff on the outside, and it doesn't have to be LowePro tactical; you can strap any tactical strappy bags and gear to the exterior of the Protactic LowePro bags
Yes, I bought this camera bag about two years ago. It's fantastic. It's expensive but it's constructed so well. It doesn't have a rain cover and it most definitely should do - it's ridiculous to have to purchase one separately. My advice - get the medium ICU so you've still got room for your outdoor gear, food and water
I have an fstop sartori which is an older version of this bag & it’s brilliant. Interestingly enough on mine the access flap actually has 2 large pockets & the webbing is on the side to allow the attachment of side pockets. It’s a military style molle system so you lace the straps through the webbing & the end result is a pocket that’s firmly fixed & doesn’t flap around. It’s a really good system & I have no idea why they changed it other than to sell more of their own modular pouches which I don’t use. I don’t see me ever swapping to another brand though! I’ve taken it all over the world on every kind of transport & it’s the best bag I’ve ever owned.
Great review Thomas, thank you. I bought a Lowepro Flipside Trek BP 450 AW a couple of months ago after doing so much research, and while it is not as huge as the bag you have, it is actually excellent for half-day hikes, and of course a lot cheaper. So, thought of sharing in case you want a bag that has the same design as your F Stop but for shorter hikes. Cheers!
I looked into this a few months back an I am totally puzzled as to why why why why do they not use a waterproof material in this day and age? The rain cover is there but it's a nuisance if you want to attach thinks to the outside of the bag. I mean when you are hiking keeping camera gear and all other accessory gear dry is absolutely critical yet manufacturers don't seem to be catching on. I find this very strange indeed! But Thomas has bought one of the best bags there that's available and it's perfect other than the water proof issue. Really enjoyed this video, very informative for me.
FYI. Just checked Amazon reviews and someone indicated that shortly after purchase they had a zipper failure (which happens) and the warranty doesnt cover zippers. I would confirm that before paying $450+.
James Gerboc That’s absurd. If a vital zipper breaks the backpack becomes useless. At least they could have a zipper guarantee where they’d take the backpack.. uh.. back and replace the zipper for free.
Hey Tom, it is really expensive, but the quality is second to none. I have 5 bags in my closet that I no longer use myself. Unfortunately, quality is expensive. Great video.
I'm using the discontinoud Satori and the Tilopa in it's first release since over 5 years. I bought them shortly after their release. Since them I made lots of trips in the Alps, never had such a great backpack. After 5 years I like to say, it's worth every Euro I spent. My historiy with camera-packs is similar to yours, but I skipped the LowePro tacktical and the Manfrotto, all other packs where owned by myself until I arrieved at F-Stop.
Atlas Packs are great. Dedicated spot for to protect your gear as well as plenty of room for any extra things you may need. One of the best things is that they come with a lifetime warranty! Got an Athlete pack back in January and love it!
We all have our addictions and can justify the expense because we really do need the equipment. Wood carvers are addicted to new tools even though the old ones work fine. I have bought, made and borrowed tool boxes/bags to find the perfect one. One way you learn about what works is to congregate with other people that do the same things as you do and discuss issues. Sometimes you can look at other hobbyists/professionals and they don't have to be in the same profession as you to see what they do to make things work. For example a dentist uses a rotary to work on teeth the bits cost x amount and yet when a carver tries to buy the same bits from a carving supply place they can be more expensive. So looking outside of the photography field might be an option. For that price could you get a custom built bag??? Excellent video It works across many fields. Ya made me want to buy the bag and all I have is a Go Pro hahahaha.😂😂 Keep up the great work. I hope you make millions and stay real.
I got the 450aw sent to me from Lowe Pro before it came out. All the buckles went, shattered, but I still used it. Just like you, I replaced it with the Lowpro ProTactic 450. Now, I end up carrying a satchel with the ProTactic. I mostly miss the outside pouch. The ProTactic is deeper, but doesn't hold as much. I find that I never use any of the entry points to the ProTactic.
The lowepro is not nearly as comfortable. The straps and zippers on Lowepro are not as good either. I own the larger F-Stop bag, and while it is expensive, it has a no questions lifetime warranty and is leagues above other bags in the same market.
I do a lot of hiking and long distance walking. At first I didn't understand why would people have more than one bag, now I know and own few of them, from heavy sturdy ones to lightweight ones. There is time and place for different bags.
I use the Fstop Satori exp which is a 62L bag. It’s been replaced now by the Sukha but I absolutely love it and have never thought of swapping it for another brand.
Richard Hurst Love my Satori! I finally found a good pack designed around fitting a human that does a lot outdoors with cameras. As opposed to so many previous bags that were designed around a camera & then had backpack straps slapped on to them.
Greetings from Canada. I also like my Tilopa bag although it seems mine is an older version. I do not like a couple of things about it though. First, any small item if placed in the top part of the bag will always find its way down to the bottom in between the side of the bag and the ICU. That is easily fixable by using some sort of small accessory pouches. In fact I believe that f-stop is now selling those. I also think that f-stop is now selling a tripod bag which can be attached to those bags and a water bottle holder for those who do not want to use the hydration bladder (I used it and there were no issues). The other thing I do not like about that bag is the size of the pockets on the lid. I find them very tight. My version has 3 and no webbing there. But is I want to take all of my gear I usually take my Tilopa with me. The very sturdy hip belt is absolutely amazing. I am looking forward to your video Thomas in which you show us the bag you use for overnight/camping trips. I bought Tilopa for that purpose but I have difficulties fitting my synthetic sleeping bag in there. Maybe if I switched to a dawn one it would be smaller so maybe it could work.
I have the Shimoda Explore 60, great bag, and I researched the F Stop bags but for overnight trips the Shimoda gave me more room for shelter, stove, food, etc
There are three similar bags. FStop, Shimoda, and Atlas Packs. I got the Atlas Adventure, the neither of the other two would work easily with my long lenses. Expensive, yes. Definitely worth it. I have used mine extensively, gone places I would have hesitated to haul my heavy long gear into. Get what is comfortable and fits your purpose.
Just bought a Lowepro PhotoSport BP300 for day hikes. Very light and simple hiking bag if you carry 1 camera + 1-2 lenses + tripod. Doesn't look like a camera bag + lots of space for rain jacket, t-shirt, food, water bottles, etc. My only complaint is that there are not enough pockets :-) But in my opinion there is no perfect camera bag. You need more bags depending on the situation. For longer hikes over more days I would prefer a Deuter Futura trekking rucksack and put a camera insert bag into it.
You should also check out the Atlas Athlete and Adventure bags. Lacks some straps, but it's been my "do everything" bag as of late. Hip belt is removable as well, so it can also serve as city walkaround bag. edit: I should also mention that both bags have a removable aluminum frame. The Athlete bag easily fits as carry-on and under the seat. It also comes with a built-in rainfly and customizable gear organization
I don't think the Lowepro Whistler BP450AW is quite as high capacity, but it's a great bit of kit similarly designed to your F-Stop bag. Carry weight when loaded aside, I'm able to carry both my 6D2 gripped body, 7D2 gripped body, 16-35mm f/4, 24-70mm f/4, 70-200mm f/2.8, 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6, spare batteries, shutter release all in the camera insert. My filters are in a separate Lowepro pouch carried in the spacious front compartment, along with my waterproof jacket, first aid kit, Lifestraw bottle and usually a sandwich box or cereal bars. Top compartment has my rocket blower, a shower cap for inclement days, hand torch, head torch, swiss army knife and if I'm shooting astro specifically my Samyang 20mm f/1.8. Space and straps on both sides for tripods, and/or walking poles. And in the buckled webbing strap on the front of the bag, I carry my camo net wildlife screen. Without comparing them side by side, I'd say they're very similar. I think my Whistler was £250 from Wex. And not to rub it in, but it came with a rain cover ;)
55 liter is a lot. It would help the video's message, to put all the gear on a table that you take with you, Thomas. And divide that into: photography for your own art work, versus UA-cam related movie, drone, etc. My cases for different use cases: I have a Peli 1510 for (air->car) travel with the (car) optional 1560 for portable studio, carry bags for lightstands and backgrounds. The Peli(can)s are waterproof and specify safe depth under water as well as buoyant weight. A Tenba Roadie Air Roller 21 is alternative for the 1510, as it does not look "expensive gear here", has less empty weight, is strong enough to sit on it or check it when flying. This Roller has become #1 choice for most use cases. For quick local reportage, a Think Tank Speedster holds camera with lens and two extra lenses, or speedlight, etc. The Speedster has a hidden hip belt that keeps the bag from flying around and distributes weight. Frequently take this with for lightweight local (
Thomas, I have the Anja version of this bag with the Large ICU and the webbing/molle attachment on the underside of the rear cover is perfect for attaching (for example) a Tasmania Tiger Tac Pouch to hold your accessories etc. These are super thin and from my experience sits perfectly against the internal dividers without pressing down on them.
The webbing is for molle attached items. This is a military style of attachment. Look up molle admin pouch for a thin holder of small items. I agree about the price and lack of rain cover. Also note that the $25 straps can be bought for a lot less at places like REI and still get high quality.
Killer question, Thomas........would you spend £400+ of your own money on it?
Killer question indeed. First I would look at what competition is on the market, find out if there is anything cheaper and of the same quality. If not and if this bag ticked all of the boxes, then yes I would spend £400, but remember that this is my job so I can justify it. 4 years ago... probaby not.
I also forgot to mention that I would check the second hand market first :)
It's simply the best bag of its type on the market *IF* the sizing is right for you. Most so called hiking camera bags don't have metal framing, and aren't really hiking bags. This bag is awesome... if the hip straps fit properly. Quality is top notch, design is good, and pricing is about what you'd expect given what you get in the market. Mine has help up in all sorts of weather from snow, mud, sand. I do wish it had some smaller internal organizers.
@@ThomasHeatonPhoto I like this reply :) Gonna checkout now
@@ThomasHeatonPhoto I bought this for £299 and it includes a rain cover. I've not discovered a limitation but I don't carry a drone and extra camera. www.wexphotovideo.com/lowepro-powder-bp-500-aw-backpack-grey-orange-1675127/
Glad you gave it 6 months before talking about it. So many social media present photographers post 'My favourite/best bag' only to 6 months later post a video with a new bag after they've discovered issues with the previous bag.
Bought the F:Stop Lotus 2 years ago. Fantastically comfortable fully laden with everything - large ICU (D750 +7 lenses) + snack/packable jacket, or Medium ICU (landscape gear - fewer lens but filters etc.) with food/extra clothing. Tripod in side pocket, water bladder for hydration and I'm set for an all day hike, or up the mountain skiing/snowboarding, or at the beach etc. Expensive - yes - but buy over time - bought medium ICU and added custom accessories as needed later. This bag looks as good as new 2 years on using average 3-4 times a week! Happy days!
At last, a fellow bag collector, my wife finally understands after watching your video 3 times. We need bags, more bags and time to play with them. Then filling them, the wife has serious issues with my efforts.
A great video.
I love how every photographer on u tube has a “best” camera bag video and they are all different. Opinions based on personal taste over time. It is funny to watch them
This bag rocks! It's so light! Taken round the world for years, with no issues to speak of. Best camera gear buy I've had. Can't speak highly enough of them. Small Pro ICU and Medium slope ICU is also a great combo on the inside...
Nice review Thomas, very thorough and reflects the time you have spent with it. For those who might care... I have had the F-Stop Tilopa (first version) for 4 years now. It's my constant companion on long treks, traveled on everything from float planes, zodiacs, sailboats, commuters, and jets. I've hiked hundreds of miles with it and used it in every imaginable climate extreme. As a wildlife photographer who shoots in frigid snow, rain, and the tropics, the bag has not let me down... With four years of hard use, the pack itself still looks good and the insert continues to maintain its integrity. I'll easily get more years out of the bag... very worth the price of admission!
Thomas, No lie - Before seeing this video today, Yesterday I bought a used Tilopa and medium ICU for $75. I have been using a smaller 37L Loka with a large ICU. I plan to swap the ICUs back and forth. I have really enjoyed the F-Stop back pack design and I kept wondering why you were not. Now, you are. Your UA-cams are the first ones I look for - Keep it up!
RE: Your comment about the MOLLE webbing in the rear access. I designed this pack about 7 ago and can clarify the webbing is to attach a toploader for use in situations where you do not pack an ICU. You just pack a toploader attached to the rear access. Not a common move for landscape photogs but very handy for backcountry action sports where you need more mtn gear than camera. Hope that helps :)
Shimoda Designs got anything new coming out soon?
that makes absolute sense now. Ive got the anja and been thinking of how to utilize the molle webbing. I tried to put a thin maxpedition pouch that i had, and found it interfered with the icu. Cant wait to go on a lightish weight multi day camping trip, now that i know i can bring the camera.
That action x 30 has me intrested. probably could replace my guru ul with that.
Shimoda Designs Great idea for small camera users!
Maybe this should be on the website of fstop ? I mean I watched loads of photos and videos and no actually shows what this could be for.. I mean from marketing point of view as a customer I want to see easily pictures of whatever options in could be especially with these ICUs. I live quite far from a store where I could try it myself and I have been deciding between Lowepro Whistler and Fstop Anja or Tilopa and when I saw Whistler I saw pictures of Skitouring gear inside, camelbak bladder, extra jackets, with camera all lying on the snow which makes me think "hey this is exactly what I want to do"
Now I see it in the video "review Tom W Carey" shows you actually don´t need the raincover. Having snow on the bag with no raincover.. Show us new customer how you attach gear, what kind of gear you had in mind when designing the webing because I truly can´t imagine that well maybe because I haven´t been to such situation or maybe I am not that much of a well organised person :)
Cheers and thanks for visiting comment section!
I've owned my Tilopa for nearly 4 years now and it is the best camera bag I've ever owned. It carries a lot of kit and distributes the weight well. It's had a hard life and while it looks a bit dirty, it all works as well as the day I bought it. I agree with Thomas though that the price is expensive, but given how long I've been using it and how much longer I plan to use it the cost was probably worth it.
The F-Stop does look like a great bag. I just got the Wandrd 31L and I love it. It is the most I have ever spent on a camera bag but it fit my needs so perfectly. A couple of other UA-camrs I follow use it and they are the ones that got me interested in it. If I needed anything bigger I would definitely go for this one, but that price would keep me from it. $300 USD is tops I would ever pay for a camera bag, call me cheap if you want but just don't think any bag is worth more than that.
Hi Tom, been using my Tilopa for a little over 6 months, when flying I removed the aluminium frame very easily, just another option, stored it in my main luggage and then 2 mins to re insert it. I have managed UK summer wild camping with it both using a tarp and one trip with a Hillerberg Soulo tent. I just love the bag and its ruggedness with great easy access to gear. Small ICU that holds my A73, 16-35, 24-105 & 70 - 200, Kase Master Filter Kit in a Mindshift bag.
Simple is good. I’ve recently started using a smaller camera backpack, and it makes a world of difference coming from a large full size bag that carries everything.
I saw one in the local camera shop second hand with the tags still on. I thought, is that not the bag TH uses, came home and checked all I could and couldn't find any mention of which bag you use. Thought he seems to like it so went and picked it up for £100. really pleased you have this video now. And no there is no rain cover !
Shimoda Explore 60 Backpack is the same deal great quality from what I can see but crazy expensive. Base bag is $320 + $75 for a Medium Core + $50 for a Small Core + $9 for a rain cover = $454
Camera/Hiking bags are certainly an obsession! :-)
Came to the comments to see if anyone suggested a Shimoda bag. I really like my Explore 40 for shorter hikes and biking around, and I'm sure the 60 would be great for longer treks like the one Thomas mentioned in the video.
Thomas Heaton and the Generosity of Pockets
Ryan M sounds like a good book in the making lol
This should be a drinking game.
I've had my Tilopa for several years and LOVE it. Indestructible and carries anything I could possibly want. I've had NO trouble getting into the overheads on full size jets. Regional jets are another story. I've gotten it to fit, but it's been a bit of a cram. I recently picked up an Atlas Athlete for when I am carrying a smaller kit.
I've had my Tilopa for two years now and love it. I've used it for overnight camps but not multiday. It's a rugged beast, the swiss army knife of camera bags!
This is like watching a heroine addict reviewing heroine for other addicts. I bought yet another camera bag a week ago and now I want a new camera backpack, even though I've bought my protactic two months ago after retiring my Vanguard. We need therapy, all of us.
John Grammaticus what is it with photographers and bags? Lol I’m guilty too haha
@@molopez619 dude I have no idea but I have more bags than my wife! Fortunately I've managed to sell one recently but it's out of control anyway.
John Grammaticus the struggle lol
Except I refuse to spend the money on therapy cause then I would have less money to spend on bags! :P
Hahaha. A very true description. I am sure now that I will not aquire any more bags.
I bought the fstop sukkah for a wild winter photography adventure and it fitted everything I needed and more. The 3L water bladder I fitted was a welcome inclusion. Nothing but praise for fstop and after buying countless bags I am completely happy with this one.
Got my own Tilopa just one month ago..ABSOLUTELY PERFECT! I have other Lowepro too, but this is another level, no question about that! Love it
I got the Guru and my bag must of been built on a Monday. The customer service is superb. It is best bag I have had so far and it is great for traveling, better then my Lowepro or Think Tank bags.
I've had a Tilopa for over a year, can't say enough good things about it. The only thing I haven't had it out in is a torrential downpour, but it's handled gentle rain and drizzle without needing the cover. Lots of room, rides well, and access to everything is easy.
whafrog looks like a promising bag!
My Ajna allowed my stuff to get damp-not wet- earlier this year in the Lake District drizzle. I have now bought a very cheapo Chinese rain cover that is every bit as good as the ones that come with LowePro bags.
100% agree with your positives and negatives Thomas, I've had my Ajna for over a year now and it is brilliant. I carry my GFX 50S with 23mm, 32-64mm and 100-200mm plus a complete Lee 100 filter kit. There's loads of room for extras I can even fit my X-T2 with 16-55 and a Leica M9 with 35mm plus drinks and snacks and a bit of extra clothing. Obviously I don't Vlog so no need for the extras like Drones etc. Like most of us I've tried them all over the years but am settled with the F-Stop now.
There comes a time when you find the perfect bag that takes all your gear ... but it's too heavy to lift off the floor
Thomas, Try to remember that many photographers are hobbyists and don't spend anything like this kind of money on a bag. We need to know what affordable bags are out there. I've been a Lowepro fan for over 10 years and have three plus a Vanguard which is on ebay as it was a freebie and too small.
I have a large shoulder bag, a small shoulder bag, and a medium size backpack, all bought in nearly new condition on Ebay for £15, £12 and £24 respectively. My backpack is very very close to your old Lowepro backpack in size and like you, this one I love. The other bags come into use when on holiday and limited gear is being carried, and sometimes when the backpack holds everything in the boot of the car, and usually the medium shoulder bag is then used to carry a selection from the main bag, at a particular stop along the way.
Despite their ages, these bags are still holding up really well, and double as a safe haven when the gear is at home, the padding in Lowepro bags is superb.
I cannot for the life of me see anyone spending £400 ++ for a bag, they must be joking!
Also bear in mind that a lot of serious photographers (the hobby kind) are nearing or have reached retirement age (when lump sums and good pensions allow gear purchases more readily) and these people are not mountain goats anymore - they have a physical limitation on what can be carried any distance, and moreover, if serious, they'll be toting a relatively heavy full frame plus lenses, without the tripod, which of course they'll need.
Your views are clearly directed to like minded souls who are a little younger, and maybe thinking of going professional, but for the rest of us, as you showed us in the earlier part of the video, maybe a really good look at Lowepro gear (including used, on eBay) would be a better place to start.
For those unfamiliar with Lowepro, they are padded all around, and the dividing strips inside the bags are velcro secured, so you can configure and re-configure a bag as your needs change.
Thomas 14:26 that strings are use when you don’t want to use the ICU, then you attach there the Fstop lens barrel with the fstop Navin or only the Navin ( dsrl + 1 lens attach) when you don’t need to take all your gear, so you have massive space for your clothes and use as a mountain backpack. I have the same Tilopa bag and the guru for street photography. And I keep using the icu I already have.
I hope the comment help you. Cheers from Argentina!
I'm beginning to wonder what my life has come to when I find myself watching a video about camera bags.
Your life is going along right direction, your not alone
Adventure! :)
I’ve had the same bag for 12 months and it’s superb. Like you say....tough as nails but you can pack so much into it. Never found a bag as good.
hi, is there a good place to put ski touring gear? Wet shovel, ski shins, probe? Thank you!
I've had a Tilopa for over a year and it's by far the best bag I have ever had, I had a car accident on Mull years ago and have had a bad back ever since so a good backpack is all I can use to carry my gear, I tried Tenba and two lowepro bags but they all killed my back in no time, with the Tilopa I can walk all day with all the gear I need and that is before I have fastened the hip belt, it didn't quite cost me £400 but I would buy it again without hesitation.
This guy has more camera bags than I do. This makes me feel better about a recent purchase of a small think tank backpack called the “side path” it is small and light and will hold my Fuji Xt3 with grip plus several zooms and a jacket. The whole load with gear doesn’t weight over 6-8 pounds so this old body can carry it all day through the woods. The bigger the bag the more you will carry. Travel simply and lightly and you will travel further and bring back better images.
I have the Anja, it is a great bag, but as you have pointed out expensive. I agree with your comment about the lack of a rain cover it should be included in the price, the bag can have a water bladder inserted but I prefer a water bottle but there are no elasticated pockets on the outside of the bag where a bottle could be inserted. You can use the bag's MOLLE system to attach a bottle bag this can go on the hip belt. The MOLLE attachment points allow you to customise the bag for a variety of uses, if you just want the rucksack you can use the attachment points in the lid to secure packs and other small items that you don't want to search for in the bag. I believe that the MOLLE system is used by the US Military so there are a multitude of accessories available that are not photography related.
Overall I have to agree that the bags are very comfortable, very durable and great for photography especially if you are a landscape photographer.
Not sure if people hate on Peak Design, but their Travel Pack 45L. It also uses the cube system and offers waterproof zips and material. Easy access via back fold and/or side zips. Cost is $299, med camera cube is $60.
I got my Tilopa in Jan 2010 and used it for 8 years. It saw everything a volcano can throw at it along with beach and high altitude snow. Even though it never quite fit me I hauled tons of gear in it. Usually 50+ lbs. The ease of accessing all gear was fantastic. Even when raining using either an umbrella and the rain cover it was great. Yes, it was expensive $240 back then but I used it as my primary bag for 8 years and never felt the need to waste money on other bags. It finally just wore out. It's still usable. Just some zippers are now stuck and there's a hole worn into the bottom corner.
Now I have the Atlas Athlete because it just fits me better and still has great camera gear access. Extra gear not as easy but, still good and my tripod fits inside. That's great for hiking through dense rain forests. The better fit is important for long hikes. It compresses well too when hauling less gear. Not cheap but, built very well. I expect it to last 8 years.
Honestly, the rain cover isn't an issue. Anyone who has a collection of bags has an even larger collection of rain covers. Accessory straps too.
Have you looked at the Lowepro Whistler BP 450 AW?
It is also quite expensive, but it's massive, and I haven't had any problems at airports, yet (I usually fly with Norwegian). The only thing is, that I'm too thin for the hip-belt, and there are no bottom-fastening-points (for a tent for example). The bag has 4 main compartments, a top compartment, a small side (almost a pocket) compartment, a fairly large, extendable front compartment, and, at last, the camera compartment, which holds my Nikon D750, Tamron 24-70 f2.8, Nikon 105mm f2.8 macro, Tamron 100-400mm, and a small nifty-fifty, plus accessories, such as ND-filters, filters, batteries etc.. It holds them surprisingly well, and there's room for more. This bag actually has a rain cover, which you don't need, because it is almost waterproof (if you dunk it in a pool, no (you get the point)). I like it, but as I mentioned, it cannot carry a tent, which means it is a one-day-bag, not a multiple day bag.
I go back and forth between the Lowepro Whistler 450 and Powder 500. I agree with you on the Whistler and then they came out with the Powder which is a backcountry touring designed bag. It holds a little less camera gear but gives you more room for other things like spare clothes, food/snacks, etc.
@@brian.walker Great, thanks for the answer, I may look into that. I am actually in need of a little more space for other things than camera gear, so that might be exactly the right bag, going by Lowepro.
@@brian.walker I've recently purchased the Lowepro Powder and love it for day walks.
@@crusadeagainsttomatoes2518 I would definitely say it is the way to go if you like your Lowepro's
@@nicolahguy It's been a good one. I just have an issue with the shoulder straps sliding a little and not holding tight. I think I have fixed the issue though
Great video, Thomas! I've owned multiple f-stop bags over the years. Two additional cons that come to mind: zipper durability and weight. Over time the zippers will "get stuck" and you'll need to spend time cleaning them. I don't know the best solution for this but it's something that's common especially if you shoot near the ocean. And, I use the Loka (old Ajna) most of the time with the smallest ICU I need to keep the weight down when hiking, for example. This is totally nit-picky but I wish f-stop would work on weight savings on both the bags & ICUs. Otherwise, IMHO they are worth every cent!
I also have a an F-Stop Tilopa, and for me, it's the best bag I've ever used. Actually, mine did come with a rain cover, however, it's still in the plastic bag it came in. Even with the rainy weather here in Vancouver, I've never had any issues water ingress. One thing you didn't mention is that the bag has an interior tubular aluminum frame which makes it very sturdy. Never had any problems with carry on restrictions either, even on the smaller turbo props. Anyway, enjoy your bag, good choice....
I have an addiction to watching videos and window shopping bags. Always looking for that perfect bag.
I've been using an Ajna for almost 2 years. Cost a bunch of $$ and i've never looked back. Best bag ever. (Shimoda are amazing too, but for even more $$). Also Tom, the webbing on the inside flap is the Mole System (military), as i'm sure someone else in the comments has mentioned already. Very universal attachment system. (I use mine for sharpies, screwdrivers and t-handled hex keys for tripod plates, a mini multi screwdriver and an old toothbrush (for cleaning filter threads and the like) . I've also been on some pretty small planes with it (Lukla), and the ICU comes out nice and fits under the seat perfectly if needed. Best landscape shooters bag ever in my humble opinion. (and i've owned A LOT) 🇨🇦
I have the f-stop Lotus for 6 months now and I am so happy with it. It’s the perfect bag for hiking and active photographers. I did a lot of research before I bought it and don’t regret it. I agree in adding the raincover. I don’t have it, because the fabric is waterproof. But it would feel safer with one.
Thomas, as always, thanks for always being genuine in your comments. Your guidance is appreciated.
I wondered where your bag journey would bring you. I too started with a Lowepro. Well actually, I started with a Trapper Nelson as a youth, an instrument of torture and obligatory right of passage back near the middle of the previous century. I too found no satisfactory solution for outdoor photography until I discovered F-Stop. Not only does it carry the full complement of photography and personal gear one needs for a day outdoors, it is a pleasure to work out of. When I first pick it up fully loaded my initial reaction is, “Damn this is heavy!” But with shoulder straps and waist belt adjusted the weight (almost) disappears. It is the most comfortable pack I have ever owned. I’m dropping mine off today to have one side pocket zipper replaced (broken tooth) and waist belt buckle replaced (stepped on and slammed in the truck door once too often). The next couple weeks I will be suffering F-Stop withdrawal. You reminded me these bags are expensive. When a piece of gear performs so well and delivers such satisfaction over years the original sticker shock has long faded from memory and become irrelevant.
Nice bag, and a proper review: 6 months of hard use! Respect. Got me thinking of putting a low cost camera gear insert into a relatively low cost ski mountaineering pack, which also has the rear panel opening feature. Success! Thanks for the inspiration!
Finding the perfect camera bag for landscape photography can be a struggle. Some have plenty space for camera gear but not enough for clothes, food etc. and vice versa. That's an expensive bag but I can see why you like it, the amount of space looks great.
Also had a long journey of bags and finally purchased the little bit smaller F-Stop Lotus for ~120€ (used but perfect conditions - those things dont brake). On top an 3rd party ICU for 15 € which perfectly does the job. And yes, also finally arrived!
I have the 32L lotus and swear by it after going through about 7 bags over the last 15 years. F-stop makes the most functional/durable bag and worth the cost as I won't buy another for a very very long time. The bag has traveled internationally and been abused while deep into american deserts - and looks/functions like new. I used the webbing for when I don't have camera gear in the bag - great for clipping crap for easy access.
I love my Atlas Athlete Pack. It’s awesome quality plus different size waist belts to fit all people sizes.
I bought one after I sold my f-stop Anja. Seriously good bag without the need for inserts....and extra cash for the cover. Best bag easily in my opinion, better than the f-stop..and cheaper.
I have a F Stop bag and they are great. Mine is like six years old and still looks great. But I just do photography as a hobby and don’t use it everyday. They are expensive but they are worth it and they do make different sizes.
I use that same old school black LowePro ProRunner 450AW. 10+ years as well! For many years and after trying many others and I keep coming back to it. Now I'm curious about the f-stop!
We're the same. I alway ALWAYS went back to my Pro Runner and I'm a little bit sad that now I don't.
I just bought the Lowpro Protactic 450 AW 2 on Amazon Prime day. Used or for the first time on Saturday. Love it!!
I have this bag’s smaller cousin, the Ajna, which might be easier on people’s pockets. I love it, with a couple of downsides: It took months and months to arrive directly from the company (I have heard since then that this is an improved situation) ; the shoulder straps seem a little thinner than I’d like; I’m not entirely keen on the suggested side-carrying option for the tripods. I ended up buying additional short and long attachment straps and two of these help hold my Gitzo Mountaineer tightly to the backpack; Finally, would have really liked a height adjustable frame. It is just a little too long for me.
Now having said all that, the Ajna remains a much loved backpack that I even take shopping as well as camera hiking. I also have a Shimoda 40l, which I believe is designed by the gentleman who helped bring the F-Stop bags on the market. That one does have adjustable height straps but fewer attachment points. And I’ts possibly even more expensive than the Tilopa. I also think its ICU’s are inferior. (I use the F-Stop ones between the two). It’s honestly a truly difficult choice deciding which one suits my needs most on any given day as they are both just so damn comfortable to wear and so very versatile.
I do know this though, I wouldn’t choose ANY other backpack maker for my cameras over these two brands for a long day’s trek in the wilderness.
The Molle style attachment straps in the main compartment lid are designed for holding F-Stops mini 1 camera + short lens holster, if I recall aright. Tried it and it works fine when travelling with minimal camera gear. 😊
Listen up, F-Stop. You wanted Thomas' opinion, use the feedback. Fine video, Thomas. Bags are a life long thing with me. Bags for travel, for hiking, for camera, whatever. Always looking for THE bag. Have not found it yet, but I accept that there may be no such thing. So I have been looking for the best compromise in all categories, I guess. Thanks for posting.
The F-Stop is amazing.
This thing is super heavy duty and wicked comfy for long hikes,etc...
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Keep doing what you're doing.
I love your videos.
So informative.
Thank you for what you do.
All the best🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Dan
I have the Manfrotto 30L off-road bag and I love it. If you don't have a ton of equipment, but just want to carry a few lenses with a dSLR, it's absolutely perfect. Plus you can remove the camera bag portion and use it as a day pack if you want. Really versatile bag.
Over the many years I have acquired a heck of a lot of Camera Bags! I think I am nearing 30. And while some have disappointed me, I have realized that none I perfect (especially when you are a general shooter like myself shooting wildlife, landscape, architectural, macro, street, abstract, still life). Just last night I purchsed yet another one and am considering 1 or 2 others. I have come to see all the "good ones" as having rather specialized application based on destination, weather, mode of travel, subject, equipment, and my mood.
Incidentally, though I have fome expensive bags, I have found many very good cheap bags as well. The new rear loading bag I just ordered was less than $50. I'll see how good it turns out to be. I would advise steering away from all the "Kick-Starter" bags because, as I found-out, getting your money back from a failed product that never got to production or that did not live up to advertising can be very difficult, if not impossible.
I use the Lowepro Whistler BP 450 AW. So much room, anything you need you can take. So many adjustments to fit me (a fairly small person) properly. Well worth the £300 I paid for it, never thought i'd fall in love with a backpack!
Have it for 4 years now with a middle sized ICU. Green. Put some extra padding on the straps. Great (perhaps ultimate?) backpack for daytrips, but not longer hikes or hikes with heavy gear plus tent underneath and tripod etc. The hip belt is to small and the straps as well. For this I bought a regular backpack from Tatonka.
I use the F-Stop Ajna, It too doesn't come with a rain cover, But its the best camera bag I've used and its strong yet more importantly it is comfortable on long hikes. I have the Large Pro and Med Slope ICU's and they both serve a purpose. I tend to use the Med Slope ICU during the winter months when I need to pack more gear to keep me warm and dry. Thanks for sharing Thomas. .
The f-stop is a great bag, for sure, Thomas. I nearly got that bag for myself -- until, that is, I discovered Atlas Packs camera bags. I just used an Atlas Athlete (40L) in Iceland for three weeks ("Best camera bag for travellers" according to National Geographic) and it is a complete dream to use! It has all the advantages of the f-stop, but is even better suited for hiking, with tons of space for other gear, expandable/shrinkable for carry-on, and ... it has an integrated rain cover! There is also a larger 70L pack (the Adventure - ") which would have been *perfect* for your 4 day trip. (The downside: they are just as eyewateringly expensive as the f-stop!). But you do get what you pay for.
I have an old f-stop Tilopa and my regular shooting buddy has the Atlas Adventure. I'm more jealous of the adventure than he is of the Tilopa. LOL Both great companies but I agree with the decision to get an Atlas, if I was buying a bag today. Even the adventure packs down to carry on size, it's pretty awesome.
The Previous Generation, the F-Stop Saitori. Solves ALL of your Qualms on this bag! Not sure if it came with a rain cover, but i dropped mine in a river and all of my gear was more than fine! I often shoot in the rain with it too!
The age old bag question! I ended up going with the Mammut trion pro 50+7L after seeing Adam Gibbs using one for a while. Very similar to the tilopa, but not actually a camera bag - just a similar dimensioned hiking bag with a back entry which can fit the same inserts. I've been really happy with it!
Twenty Years ago, using a medium format camera and 4 lenses, film, filters,etc, I used a very small camera bag.That was placed inside a “real” panel loading (full zip, not top loading) Kelty Red Wing back pack with 2 side pockets, which you could slide a tripod behind, and two panel pockets. It had two metal stays that were formed specifically for your back by the folks at the store where I bought the pack. So it was custom set up just for your body. Plenty of room for food, clothing, water bottles, etc. I just used it in Iceland, but now with digital gear.
Hi Thomas, indeed a great bag! A tip for even more compression: you can take the metal support for the back out. This way you can take off ~10 cm without compressing it so tightly.
Great tip, thanks a lot.
Personal preference: I always think of me, my back and shoulders first and foremost. I have studied many camera bags in stores and all of them have had padding and ergonomics that was nowhere near the level of a dedicated non-photo gear backpack company (Bergans or Deuter). I live with the pain of finding the gear in my backpack knowing that I have prioritized me and my back/shoulders over my gear.
Nice one. Bags are hard work. I just got back from 10 days in the Swiss Alps, and my cheapo bag let me down in some style - not a mistake I'll be making again, and ditto my bloody tripod head, which it turns out is totally useless for panos. Buy nice or buy twice folks. Thanks for putting the miles in Tom!
I tell people the same thing. Thomas’s current bag looks ideal! I use to mind shift gear 180 bags. My current favorite when I don’t want to set my bag down in mud or sandy beaches. Link in my video description if you want to check it out.
The webbing on the flap looks like its PALS webbing, commonly used on military gear. It's so you can attach pouches for various purposes. Customizable to your heart's content. 👍
Love the sneeky shot of Simon Baxter foraging in the woods!
Mind shift 26L and 36L bags are super efficient and the camera/lens area is very customizable. Reasonably priced and they do come with a water tight slip over shell.
I'll stay with my Lowepro Runner. It has never fail me and holds all my equipment for Music Shows and Fashion/Modeling. Great video as always. Keep it up!!
great video.. you just made me more happy with my new-to-me LowePro Protactic 450 AW (I got it on sale!)
the "tactical" means you can strap stuff on the outside, and it doesn't have to be LowePro tactical; you can strap any tactical strappy bags and gear to the exterior of the Protactic LowePro bags
Yes, I bought this camera bag about two years ago. It's fantastic. It's expensive but it's constructed so well. It doesn't have a rain cover and it most definitely should do - it's ridiculous to have to purchase one separately. My advice - get the medium ICU so you've still got room for your outdoor gear, food and water
That’s crazy it has no rain cover. That’s stupid. Let’s charge 400 bucks
I have an fstop sartori which is an older version of this bag & it’s brilliant. Interestingly enough on mine the access flap actually has 2 large pockets & the webbing is on the side to allow the attachment of side pockets. It’s a military style molle system so you lace the straps through the webbing & the end result is a pocket that’s firmly fixed & doesn’t flap around. It’s a really good system & I have no idea why they changed it other than to sell more of their own modular pouches which I don’t use. I don’t see me ever swapping to another brand though! I’ve taken it all over the world on every kind of transport & it’s the best bag I’ve ever owned.
I love my f-stop and would buy it again anytime, it's worth every penny.
Great review Thomas, thank you. I bought a Lowepro Flipside Trek BP 450 AW a couple of months ago after doing so much research, and while it is not as huge as the bag you have, it is actually excellent for half-day hikes, and of course a lot cheaper. So, thought of sharing in case you want a bag that has the same design as your F Stop but for shorter hikes. Cheers!
I looked into this a few months back an I am totally puzzled as to why why why why do they not use a waterproof material in this day and age? The rain cover is there but it's a nuisance if you want to attach thinks to the outside of the bag. I mean when you are hiking keeping camera gear and all other accessory gear dry is absolutely critical yet manufacturers don't seem to be catching on. I find this very strange indeed! But Thomas has bought one of the best bags there that's available and it's perfect other than the water proof issue. Really enjoyed this video, very informative for me.
wow! that new bag is VERY GENEROUS!!
FYI. Just checked Amazon reviews and someone indicated that shortly after purchase they had a zipper failure (which happens) and the warranty doesnt cover zippers. I would confirm that before paying $450+.
James Gerboc That’s absurd. If a vital zipper breaks the backpack becomes useless. At least they could have a zipper guarantee where they’d take the backpack.. uh.. back and replace the zipper for free.
Hey Tom, it is really expensive, but the quality is second to none. I have 5 bags in my closet that I no longer use myself. Unfortunately, quality is expensive. Great video.
Super excited to see this Thomas!!! Keep up the great work pal!
I'm using the discontinoud Satori and the Tilopa in it's first release since over 5 years. I bought them shortly after their release. Since them I made lots of trips in the Alps, never had such a great backpack. After 5 years I like to say, it's worth every Euro I spent.
My historiy with camera-packs is similar to yours, but I skipped the LowePro tacktical and the Manfrotto, all other packs where owned by myself until I arrieved at F-Stop.
Atlas Packs are great. Dedicated spot for to protect your gear as well as plenty of room for any extra things you may need. One of the best things is that they come with a lifetime warranty! Got an Athlete pack back in January and love it!
We all have our addictions and can justify the expense because we really do need the equipment. Wood carvers are addicted to new tools even though the old ones work fine. I have bought, made and borrowed tool boxes/bags to find the perfect one. One way you learn about what works is to congregate with other people that do the same things as you do and discuss issues. Sometimes you can look at other hobbyists/professionals and they don't have to be in the same profession as you to see what they do to make things work. For example a dentist uses a rotary to work on teeth the bits cost x amount and yet when a carver tries to buy the same bits from a carving supply place they can be more expensive. So looking outside of the photography field might be an option. For that price could you get a custom built bag??? Excellent video It works across many fields. Ya made me want to buy the bag and all I have is a Go Pro hahahaha.😂😂 Keep up the great work. I hope you make millions and stay real.
I got the 450aw sent to me from Lowe Pro before it came out. All the buckles went, shattered, but I still used it. Just like you, I replaced it with the Lowpro ProTactic 450. Now, I end up carrying a satchel with the ProTactic. I mostly miss the outside pouch. The ProTactic is deeper, but doesn't hold as much. I find that I never use any of the entry points to the ProTactic.
Lowepro Flipside Trek large one will do at least 17/20th of requirements of this F-stop. That too at a price 1/3rd of the later.
Agree. I own Flipside Trek 450AW which only cost under $150.
The lowepro is not nearly as comfortable. The straps and zippers on Lowepro are not as good either. I own the larger F-Stop bag, and while it is expensive, it has a no questions lifetime warranty and is leagues above other bags in the same market.
I used to own Lowepro bags and thought they were pretty good. Until I finally got an fstop bag.
I do a lot of hiking and long distance walking. At first I didn't understand why would people have more than one bag, now I know and own few of them, from heavy sturdy ones to lightweight ones. There is time and place for different bags.
I use the Fstop Satori exp which is a 62L bag. It’s been replaced now by the Sukha but I absolutely love it and have never thought of swapping it for another brand.
Richard Hurst Love my Satori! I finally found a good pack designed around fitting a human that does a lot outdoors with cameras. As opposed to so many previous bags that were designed around a camera & then had backpack straps slapped on to them.
Kevin Younger Yes totally agree.
Greetings from Canada. I also like my Tilopa bag although it seems mine is an older version. I do not like a couple of things about it though. First, any small item if placed in the top part of the bag will always find its way down to the bottom in between the side of the bag and the ICU. That is easily fixable by using some sort of small accessory pouches. In fact I believe that f-stop is now selling those. I also think that f-stop is now selling a tripod bag which can be attached to those bags and a water bottle holder for those who do not want to use the hydration bladder (I used it and there were no issues). The other thing I do not like about that bag is the size of the pockets on the lid. I find them very tight. My version has 3 and no webbing there. But is I want to take all of my gear I usually take my Tilopa with me. The very sturdy hip belt is absolutely amazing. I am looking forward to your video Thomas in which you show us the bag you use for overnight/camping trips. I bought Tilopa for that purpose but I have difficulties fitting my synthetic sleeping bag in there. Maybe if I switched to a dawn one it would be smaller so maybe it could work.
Have u checked Shimoda Design?
I like it alot, it has most functional design
I have the Shimoda Explore 60, great bag, and I researched the F Stop bags but for overnight trips the Shimoda gave me more room for shelter, stove, food, etc
There are three similar bags. FStop, Shimoda, and Atlas Packs. I got the Atlas Adventure, the neither of the other two would work easily with my long lenses. Expensive, yes. Definitely worth it. I have used mine extensively, gone places I would have hesitated to haul my heavy long gear into. Get what is comfortable and fits your purpose.
Been looking at the f-stop bags for a while now will be my next upgrade. Thanks
Just bought a Lowepro PhotoSport BP300 for day hikes. Very light and simple hiking bag if you carry 1 camera + 1-2 lenses + tripod.
Doesn't look like a camera bag + lots of space for rain jacket, t-shirt, food, water bottles, etc.
My only complaint is that there are not enough pockets :-)
But in my opinion there is no perfect camera bag. You need more bags depending on the situation.
For longer hikes over more days I would prefer a Deuter Futura trekking rucksack and put a camera insert bag into it.
Been using the F-stop Satori 62L for years now. Good to see that you also finally found them :)
(I also have the lowepro 450 :))
You should also check out the Atlas Athlete and Adventure bags. Lacks some straps, but it's been my "do everything" bag as of late. Hip belt is removable as well, so it can also serve as city walkaround bag.
edit: I should also mention that both bags have a removable aluminum frame. The Athlete bag easily fits as carry-on and under the seat. It also comes with a built-in rainfly and customizable gear organization
I don't think the Lowepro Whistler BP450AW is quite as high capacity, but it's a great bit of kit similarly designed to your F-Stop bag.
Carry weight when loaded aside, I'm able to carry both my 6D2 gripped body, 7D2 gripped body, 16-35mm f/4, 24-70mm f/4, 70-200mm f/2.8, 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6, spare batteries, shutter release all in the camera insert.
My filters are in a separate Lowepro pouch carried in the spacious front compartment, along with my waterproof jacket, first aid kit, Lifestraw bottle and usually a sandwich box or cereal bars.
Top compartment has my rocket blower, a shower cap for inclement days, hand torch, head torch, swiss army knife and if I'm shooting astro specifically my Samyang 20mm f/1.8.
Space and straps on both sides for tripods, and/or walking poles. And in the buckled webbing strap on the front of the bag, I carry my camo net wildlife screen.
Without comparing them side by side, I'd say they're very similar. I think my Whistler was £250 from Wex. And not to rub it in, but it came with a rain cover ;)
Whistlers unite! Show off that Orange Flek!
4 days, 77 miles...you’re a beast. Respect.
I always used the Lowepro Flipside 400. Opens just like the F-stop. Great bag if you don't need something smaller than the F-stop
55 liter is a lot. It would help the video's message, to put all the gear on a table that you take with you, Thomas. And divide that into: photography for your own art work, versus UA-cam related movie, drone, etc. My cases for different use cases: I have a Peli 1510 for (air->car) travel with the (car) optional 1560 for portable studio, carry bags for lightstands and backgrounds. The Peli(can)s are waterproof and specify safe depth under water as well as buoyant weight. A Tenba Roadie Air Roller 21 is alternative for the 1510, as it does not look "expensive gear here", has less empty weight, is strong enough to sit on it or check it when flying. This Roller has become #1 choice for most use cases. For quick local reportage, a Think Tank Speedster holds camera with lens and two extra lenses, or speedlight, etc. The Speedster has a hidden hip belt that keeps the bag from flying around and distributes weight. Frequently take this with for lightweight local (
I use this bag for over 3 years now and still love it! Even though its huge price I think it is worth it.
But I totaly agree on the raincover😋
Thomas, I have the Anja version of this bag with the Large ICU and the webbing/molle attachment on the underside of the rear cover is perfect for attaching (for example) a Tasmania Tiger Tac Pouch to hold your accessories etc. These are super thin and from my experience sits perfectly against the internal dividers without pressing down on them.
The webbing is for molle attached items. This is a military style of attachment. Look up molle admin pouch for a thin holder of small items. I agree about the price and lack of rain cover. Also note that the $25 straps can be bought for a lot less at places like REI and still get high quality.