I had two of these and they were great cars - spacious, economical, and (mostly) reliable. Biggest problem I had was when squirrels chewed some rubber suspension bushes! I have now moved on to full EV but don't regret having PHEVs first. They would make a great secondhand buy.
This is on my list as a back up. I am hoping to buy a full electric with towbar in the next six months, but if I can't get one, or if I can afford one yet, I will go with this for now, but hope to change in the next year or so. Skoda Enyaq is first on the list if I can.
Dammm squirrel's I'll have to wait till these are under £5,000 to afford one otherwise it's still cheaper to buy a car for £2-3k and spend 1k fixing it up make it brand new...
Just bought one for my 20 miles a day commute from a rural property to a town. Think mud, steep hills, proper winter weather and flooded roads. I have a family and a couple of large dogs. It's as if the car was designed expressly for me. I've been able to swap out of a big diesel guzzling 4x4 to another car that will do everything, but under electric power. The odd times when I have to drive further, the petrol engine is a backup. The nearest match to this capability in a full electric vehicle is around three times the price and would take at least six months to deliver due to the chip shortage. This is the sweet spot. If you regularly do longer journeys though, avoid, as it won't give you the pure electric range you need to get the benefit. If you have a short daily commute that needs 4x4 traction, it's a no brainer.
I live in BC Canada. I own a 2020 version of this. Just last weekend drove to Whistler(a ski resort) which is almost 391kms from home and return. 39% of that was pure EV and rest was 7.0litres per 100kms. With higher gas prices here, it ended up being CAD $23.00 for the whole trip (only gasoline cost as I don’t pay for the electric charge). This vehicle is amazing!!!
@@samiviitasalo1173 yes, but using gasoline to run the charging dynamo (the car drives 2 km less per litre when charging). And the electric drive range ‘earned’ by self-charge is less than the gasoline used, so you would be better of economical and environmental by not using the ‘charge’ mode. My experience with the Outlander 2020.
If you buy used: 1.Change the generator fluid (it's cvt j4 fluid but this vehicle does not have a cvt) 2. Change the front and rear differential fluid (SP-3 transmission fluid) 3.Change the oil every 3k (I don't care what the book says, do it every 3k with full synthetic) 4.Have a qualified mechanic check your ground wires for corrosion. I'm a ASE master tech that has 2 outlanders, these are my suggestions.
Good question - am curious as this is what I did on my 1972 Spitfire 😯 My 2002 Volvo V40 gets a change every year or 6000mi but that’s semi so not too pricey- chucking away fully synth seems a bit wasteful if under used?
My wife has the 2014 older version and it's still great car capable of 25miles on EV. Also has rapid charge and it's good for towing caravan. I'm hoping to make a little video about my experience using this car for over 3 years now 😃 I drove 62miles the other day and did avarage 92mpg. Very impressive results 👍
I bought one new in 2014 and actually preferred the look to the newer face-lifted model. However, the build quality of the newer version was definitely better - it felt really solid.
so you drove 25+37 miles and used 3 litres, which is really 51 mpg, plus 12 units of electricity. Which is worth 1.2 litres of petrol, so you really used 4.2 litres, and therefore actually did 40 mpg. In other words, identical to a petrol Outlander without the pointless electric system.
@@juchetony1910 first gen uses about 7-8 kw for a full charge, you never use more then that. And any journeys within your range are complete EV. You can hate on them all you want, they are briljant. Oh and the electric system means you don’t need a gearbox, saves a lot of maintenance.
We brought a 2015 Outlander a few years ago for my wife's business. Around 85% of our driving is pure electric. We're really chuffed with it. We'll go fully electric next time but this has worked out well for us. It does drink petrol though when you're not on electric so only go for this if you do lots of short journeys from home.
I have a 2018 GT here in the states and absolutely love it. It's my first hybrid, I did change the front and rear gearbox fluid which is mitsubishi automatic transmission fluid and the generator fluid which is mitsubishi CVT fluid although it is NOT a cvt, just uses that fluid for the generator.
Our Phev is the 4h so mid range which we had new in 2019its the 2.4 petrol with the bigger battery. In the summer we get 30-32 miles out of the battery and during the winter 25-28. MPG varies from the absolute worst all petrol trip from Lincolnshire down to East Sussex via motorway and return where we averaged 30 mpg. That isn’t representative of normal use though, more normal trips of A road and urban we average 40-50 mpg. When we do a lot of local trips we have seen seem 75 mpg regularly and during lockdown 90 +. We have solar pv so do charge a lot using that and also through Octopus Go on the 5p overnight tariff. It’s a first step for us and the next car will be a full EV. The worst thing about the car is that the paint work marks very easily, the best thing it’s reliability and ability to carry big loads in comfort.
Ive had my 67 plate (second hand) now for 2 weeks. TOTALLY LOVE IT !!! I jumped in my Honda CRV for the first time since getting the Outlander and already, it seems to old fashioned to have to turn a key to start it - no EV mode...having to change gear myself...NOISE.. Vibration !! NONE of that with my new OUTLANDER. Smooth, almost silent, full Electric for all my local running around. and as long as I dont go mad, petrol engine topping up the battery on longer runs.
I totally agree, seeing the back orders and price gouging on BEVs these and other PHEV can decabonize a vast majority of the daily commutes people have. Over 95% of my driving so far is on electric since I have over 100k km on my PHEV (with an EV hold function for highway driving) and less than 5k of that is on the ICE (which has a timing chain and planetary gearbox) so the overall emissions and maintenance are near nil all things considered. If I had to haul around 200kg of extra batteries I don't need daily or 200kg of ICE I'll take the ICE which I can actually refuel quickly, easily, reliably and conveniently on a road trip outside of a major city.
decarbonizing the commute is one thing. Thinking that electricity is not produced by generating CO2 somewhere is another thing. Until there is no better energy solution e cars are just a lie
Being the owner of the 2020 model fitted with all extras and bought second hand, I´m really satisfied with the performance. Covers most short trips on electric, then just charge it at home. On the occasional long journeys, to entertain yourself, switch between EV mode and charge while driving, and use the slopes to roll for free, and use the charging paddle when it´s the proper opportunity. It works. Try to do better next time, there are a few trix. Keeps you alert. Saving you some money. It´s still a nice and roomy car that can tow, transport a lot and gives you a good view around. Pretty safe, too.
Does what it says on the tin... one thing to be mindful of on later models, make sure all areas of the capacitive touch screen are working. Mitsubishi are aware of the issue and should replace under warranty.
I have a 2015 version. It was my primary car with a short range EV for local trips. Now I have a long range EV the PHEV is downgraded to my local car. Last time I put petrol in it showed 347mpg.
Had 2 Outlanders if your a family with a dog etc doing those short runs to football, swimming & school it’s a stunning vehicle. Charge it regularly and go Octopus Energy for cheap overnight charging you won’t regret it, I believe Mitsubishi may be coming back to the UK if so I’d be first in line for the new Outlander.
The 5 year mechanical and 8 year drive electrics warranty started with post November 2015 cars (MY16). Previous models had 3/5 years. The sweet spot in my opinion is a March 2017 registered 4h or higher to get the best spec and free road tax with the 5/8y warranty.
I have a 2015 model Gx4h with the facelift and zero tax, used to have a 2015 Gx3h model before hand non facelift and was ok. Come back to one from full electric traded in a mg ev due to problems with car, had a BMW i3 for full year and was great. I could get around 30miles on phev but as we all know depends on the conditions and temp.
This would be a terrible buy if you are a high mileage motorist. For me, with my daily driving usually under 20 miles, I generally only use the petrol engine at weekends. Driving 350 miles through France recently, 4 up with a roofbox, gave 32 mpg. Never bother with fast chargers. They are more expensive than running on petrol.
Interesting. The only charging station from my flat in London is a 20-minute and 30-minute walk away. Is there any point getting one? My lexus RX400H is perfect but Sad Khan doesn't like them anymore.
Works perfectly as a school run car IF you have later models (2.4) that have electric heater. With older 2 litre engine you had to use petrol engine to warm up cabin - defeating the object of fuel saving or use it like an old land rover with no heater!! 2.4s also have heated screen and remote warm up whilst still plugged in which is perfect as well. Get into a de-frosted toasty warm car with clear windows! I've had both and they have been 100% reliable.
Is actually a misconception that they older models need to use the ICE to run the heater. Is only the AC that causes the ICE to kick in. IF you keep the heater on (no AC) on one or two bars, the ICE does NOT engage. I've run my 2015 model like this for years. I live in London and do 95% of my motoring on pure electric. Mine has the heated seats, so pretty toasty in winter.
@@michaelggriffiths ??? I'm on my second outlander, the first one didn't have separate electric heating system. The only way to get heat in the car was using ice. Only reason I changed to a newer model.
I'm considering buying the Mitsubushi Outlander PHEV hybrid in the UK. It ticks all the boxes, but just worried about the battery. Looking 2017 to 2019 models as that fits my budget. Should I be concerned about the battery?
Don’t know if your ended up buying one of course, but I don’t think you need to worry about the battery. My 2nd hand 2017 model has done 75k with no problems with the battery. Also, not one Outlander battery has had to be replaced under warranty yet in the UK.
As much as I'd like to agree with others opinions that PHEVs are a good stepping-stone to a full BEV, the problem comes with the demographic of the drivers i.e. mostly company car drivers taking advantage of the very low BIK taxation rates. And, having been a busy rep myself for many years, I'm pretty confident in saying that the VAST majority of these drivers will infrequently / never bother to charge the battery or, even if they do, then their longer mileage journeys negates any real environmental advantage of the 'few' electric miles they get at the beginning of their drive. I did some analysis of BMW330e vs BMW320d stats, for a 'typical' rep mileage of about 600 miles per 5-day week (about 28,000 business miles per year). Even though the 330e would do approximately 150 miles a week on electric (assuming, in ideal conditions, it was charged every night ready for the next day) the other 450 miles per week would be at about 38-40 mpg (about 12 gallons of fuel) and about 165g/km CO2 (118.8kg of CO2). The 320d would do all 600 miles per week at about 60mpg (10 gallons of fuel) and 123g/km CO2 (118.0kg of CO2) So, the PHEV version is more environmentally damaging if driven longer distances. And, at an average of 120 miles per day, that's WELL within the daily range of the vast majority of full BEVs.
Yes, but it offers great value for a 2nd/3rd owner who gets a cheap plug-in hybrid with a battery that hasn’t done too many charge/discharge cycles, and still has plenty of life left in it.
The solution is simple, stop drilling for crude oil and swap to carbon neutral/negative bio (and eventually synth) fuels. People will plug in their PHEV at every opportunity when they see that first fill up bill and will use a little pump fuel as possible. A small 100km battery PHEV is much more than what a vast majority of people need for daily driving. Plus we can severely decrease the amount of lithium and other metals needed to be transported and processed so the world driving population can hoard batteries to ease their range anxiety. For the rare long distance driving outliers a full BEV would make sense for them (if they can reliably charge them on their routes). Of the dozen or so PHEV drivers I've met every one of them plugs in at home and if it's available at work, it's essentially heavily discounted fuel, who really walks by an outlet or charging station at home or work and says, "meh, I want to go out of my way and pay more at the pump". Each type of EV has their place and customer preference. In general, PHEV software does need to be smarter and more selective in when to use the ICE and when to use the battery. PHEV battery packs need to be a bit larger while using smaller 3 cylinder turbo ICEs with flex fuel options paired with a planetary gearbox (very light, small, efficient and reliable). Plus this isn't the '80s, contemporary ICE reliability is very high in general, more often than not it's the electronics and super complicated transmissions in cars that fail prematurely these days.
It IS a self-charging hybrid. It has a charge button near the gear selected. The petrol engine does get noisier when you’re charging though, a bit like driving it in the wrong gear.
How much does it cost on average to use a public charger 🔌 to get the 80 % ? I don’t have a driveway so might not be easy for me to plug to my house or install the special charger .
Depends on where you charge pod point is 40p per kwh and a 80% charge from flat is around £1.10 insta volt however is 66p per kwh and is around £2.80 80% takes about 20 mins as stated in the video. Tesco / sainsbury have free charge points at some stores these take around 2 hours 30 mins to completely charge to 100%
I would recommend anyone looking at or has a hybrid to download zap map I shows you where every charge point is and what I costs although some are a little outdated and takes us drivers to let them know price changes and where new points have been installed.
Yes , you don’t have to do anything when the battery runs too low it switches to hybrid operation itself. Save and charge are for you to save a charged battery, (eg to use in town driving where it’s more efficient), and to charge the battery directly from the engine respectively.
Main issue with the car is the Mitsubishi BMS that restricts range and needs to be reset to get the range back. This was a known major issue a couple of years ago hen I was following this issue. And Mitsubishi have replaced at least one battery in Australia as part of that known issue.
I did 116000 miles in mine in 3 1/2 years and regularly got 28 miles on the battery. The only issue was the suspension was wallowly by the time it was replaced.
I swapped my Outlander for a Model 3 in March. The Tesla is fun but I really miss the Mitsi in terms of space, practicality and the relaxed driving. On a long run with no en-route charging I was getting around 35mpg. My daily commute cost me nothing, done on full electric with free workplace charging. Generally around 25 miles EV range, a bit less in winter, a little better in summer. Definitely a one speed box, i used to get some funny looks when putting the foot down to overtake and it sounded like I had forgotten to change up. Surprisingly quick for what it is but certainly not an exciting drive. Had they supplied the new model into Europe I would have seriously considered another Outlander. As for using fast chargers, why not? If, as a BEV driver, someone on a charger for 20mins makes such an impact on your day, maybe you should have gone PHEV instead?
My cousin has one of these and loves it but he isn't doing big mileages like me. My question is this, I drive a diesel and am proud of it but I'm also keenly aware given the war against them particularly given that its brand, Renault in my case have dropped them now entirely from all of their cars that I'll either have to go to another brand to get diesel or go hybrid or electric. My reason for diesel is I'm doing regular 70 miles plus trips for commuting to and from work but my question is this, given that hybrids and EVs aren't great on the motorway, are there any bar the super expensive brands like Tesla for EV and the Volkswagen group for example for hybrids that are any use on the motorway?
@@barrycoleman7040 not on the motorway it won't at 70mph plus you don't even get android auto on it and Mitsubishi is pulling out of the UK. Plus it's ugly.
@@stevencampbell1150 Well, I can get that mpg on mine, but I don't break the speed limits habitually. Mine also has CarPlay and Android auto. Mitsubishi isn't pulling out of the UK, they are now just offering after sales servicing, not new cars. I'll be getting mine serviced at an independent anyway. You say you're "proud" to drive a diesel - bizarre. My last tank of fuel gave me 95mpg, as I'm able to charge it often. Ugly? Yes, you have a point there.😊
@@barrycoleman7040 yes but are you travelling on a motorway for 30 + miles? I doubt that. Not only that but it takes you how many hours to charge to get that mpg? And what happens when you run out of charge? I guarantee it'll not be 95mpg it'll be more like about 40 which I can happily trounce at 51-52mpg and it only takes me about 15 minutes to fill.
@@stevencampbell1150 what’s your car? 52mpg isn’t great for a diesel unless you’re really exceeding the speed limit by a long way. On a 70 mile trip with 30 miles on motorway my PHEV will get 60-70mpg. The Outlander is old technology now, but still viable. Whether we like it or not all cars will be fully electric within a few years. I charge overnight, and if I need more petrol it takes me 5 minutes to fill the tank.
I currently own a petrol outlander (which I love) and WAS thinking of buying the Hybrid but the deal stopper was the fuel economy you mentioned when on long runs put me off strait away. Also battery life of 8 years so replacing them is expensive so all in all, a false economy.
Outlander PHEV might've sold decently, but in general Mitsubishi's sales have been in a nosedive across Europe for a while now so they're just not bothering to develop cars for Europe anymore, so no more Outlander PHEV. They're just going to sell Renault/Nissan based cars here in Europe from now on.
No. They don't. Either the engine runs as a generator to push power into the electric motors, or it directly drives the friont axle via the single gear. There is - quite literally - no gearbox or any description.
Depends on your needs. A 25k PHEV would do 50% more miles when fully fuelled than a 32k Enyaq. You would need to spend nearer 40k to get a 300 mile total range. But, if you only do short journeys then I agree with you.
I had two of these and they were great cars - spacious, economical, and (mostly) reliable. Biggest problem I had was when squirrels chewed some rubber suspension bushes! I have now moved on to full EV but don't regret having PHEVs first. They would make a great secondhand buy.
This is on my list as a back up. I am hoping to buy a full electric with towbar in the next six months, but if I can't get one, or if I can afford one yet, I will go with this for now, but hope to change in the next year or so. Skoda Enyaq is first on the list if I can.
@@SheepShearerMike Enyaq looks like a great choice. I have always gone for ex-demonstration cars and I expect there will be some available next year.
Dammm squirrel's I'll have to wait till these are under £5,000 to afford one otherwise it's still cheaper to buy a car for £2-3k and spend 1k fixing it up make it brand new...
😅😅😅😅😂😂 sorry, man. The squirrels found some toy to play with.
Just bought one for my 20 miles a day commute from a rural property to a town. Think mud, steep hills, proper winter weather and flooded roads. I have a family and a couple of large dogs. It's as if the car was designed expressly for me. I've been able to swap out of a big diesel guzzling 4x4 to another car that will do everything, but under electric power. The odd times when I have to drive further, the petrol engine is a backup. The nearest match to this capability in a full electric vehicle is around three times the price and would take at least six months to deliver due to the chip shortage. This is the sweet spot. If you regularly do longer journeys though, avoid, as it won't give you the pure electric range you need to get the benefit. If you have a short daily commute that needs 4x4 traction, it's a no brainer.
I live in BC Canada. I own a 2020 version of this. Just last weekend drove to Whistler(a ski resort) which is almost 391kms from home and return. 39% of that was pure EV and rest was 7.0litres per 100kms. With higher gas prices here, it ended up being CAD $23.00 for the whole trip (only gasoline cost as I don’t pay for the electric charge). This vehicle is amazing!!!
That was a lot of charging stops on the tour since it only runs max 32 km on pure el-drive….
@@ketimo It charge itself while driving
@@samiviitasalo1173 yes, but using gasoline to run the charging dynamo (the car drives 2 km less per litre when charging). And the electric drive range ‘earned’ by self-charge is less than the gasoline used, so you would be better of economical and environmental by not using the ‘charge’ mode. My experience with the Outlander 2020.
The only PHEV with fast charging which meant it was feasible to charge on long journeys. I liked mine a lot.
If you buy used:
1.Change the generator fluid (it's cvt j4 fluid but this vehicle does not have a cvt)
2. Change the front and rear differential fluid (SP-3 transmission fluid)
3.Change the oil every 3k (I don't care what the book says, do it every 3k with full synthetic)
4.Have a qualified mechanic check your ground wires for corrosion.
I'm a ASE master tech that has 2 outlanders, these are my suggestions.
Why change the oil every 3k miles? That seems ridiculous, especially when many miles may have been done on pure electric.
Good question - am curious as this is what I did on my 1972 Spitfire 😯 My 2002 Volvo V40 gets a change every year or 6000mi but that’s semi so not too pricey- chucking away fully synth seems a bit wasteful if under used?
Yeah it has a CVT
My wife has the 2014 older version and it's still great car capable of 25miles on EV. Also has rapid charge and it's good for towing caravan. I'm hoping to make a little video about my experience using this car for over 3 years now 😃
I drove 62miles the other day and did avarage 92mpg. Very impressive results 👍
I bought one new in 2014 and actually preferred the look to the newer face-lifted model. However, the build quality of the newer version was definitely better - it felt really solid.
@@richardgilyead7640 apparently the range was slightly improved on the new one
@@DariuszTech Actually, I didn't notice a lot of difference in range between the two models.
so you drove 25+37 miles and used 3 litres, which is really 51 mpg, plus 12 units of electricity. Which is worth 1.2 litres of petrol, so you really used 4.2 litres, and therefore actually did 40 mpg. In other words, identical to a petrol Outlander without the pointless electric system.
@@juchetony1910 first gen uses about 7-8 kw for a full charge, you never use more then that. And any journeys within your range are complete EV. You can hate on them all you want, they are briljant.
Oh and the electric system means you don’t need a gearbox, saves a lot of maintenance.
We brought a 2015 Outlander a few years ago for my wife's business. Around 85% of our driving is pure electric. We're really chuffed with it. We'll go fully electric next time but this has worked out well for us. It does drink petrol though when you're not on electric so only go for this if you do lots of short journeys from home.
Thanks for advice
By far and away the best buyers guide to the outlander. Thankyou so much for the details!
I have a 2018 GT here in the states and absolutely love it. It's my first hybrid, I did change the front and rear gearbox fluid which is mitsubishi automatic transmission fluid and the generator fluid which is mitsubishi CVT fluid although it is NOT a cvt, just uses that fluid for the generator.
Our Phev is the 4h so mid range which we had new in 2019its the 2.4 petrol with the bigger battery. In the summer we get 30-32 miles out of the battery and during the winter 25-28. MPG varies from the absolute worst all petrol trip from Lincolnshire down to East Sussex via motorway and return where we averaged 30 mpg. That isn’t representative of normal use though, more normal trips of A road and urban we average 40-50 mpg. When we do a lot of local trips we have seen seem 75 mpg regularly and during lockdown 90 +. We have solar pv so do charge a lot using that and also through Octopus Go on the 5p overnight tariff. It’s a first step for us and the next car will be a full EV.
The worst thing about the car is that the paint work marks very easily, the best thing it’s reliability and ability to carry big loads in comfort.
Ive had my 67 plate (second hand) now for 2 weeks. TOTALLY LOVE IT !!! I jumped in my Honda CRV for the first time since getting the Outlander and already, it seems to old fashioned to have to turn a key to start it - no EV mode...having to change gear myself...NOISE.. Vibration !! NONE of that with my new OUTLANDER. Smooth, almost silent, full Electric for all my local running around. and as long as I dont go mad, petrol engine topping up the battery on longer runs.
same 2 car combo as me.. both been ultra reliable, i'm on my 2nd outlander as needed separate heater function and heated screen..
I totally agree, seeing the back orders and price gouging on BEVs these and other PHEV can decabonize a vast majority of the daily commutes people have. Over 95% of my driving so far is on electric since I have over 100k km on my PHEV (with an EV hold function for highway driving) and less than 5k of that is on the ICE (which has a timing chain and planetary gearbox) so the overall emissions and maintenance are near nil all things considered. If I had to haul around 200kg of extra batteries I don't need daily or 200kg of ICE I'll take the ICE which I can actually refuel quickly, easily, reliably and conveniently on a road trip outside of a major city.
decarbonizing the commute is one thing. Thinking that electricity is not produced by generating CO2 somewhere is another thing.
Until there is no better energy solution e cars are just a lie
I’m curious why you put it on EV Old when you’re on the highway? So to save any functionality for driving?
Being the owner of the 2020 model fitted with all extras and bought second hand, I´m really satisfied with the performance. Covers most short trips on electric, then just charge it at home. On the occasional long journeys, to entertain yourself, switch between EV mode and charge while driving, and use the slopes to roll for free, and use the charging paddle when it´s the proper opportunity. It works. Try to do better next time, there are a few trix. Keeps you alert. Saving you some money. It´s still a nice and roomy car that can tow, transport a lot and gives you a good view around. Pretty safe, too.
Does what it says on the tin... one thing to be mindful of on later models, make sure all areas of the capacitive touch screen are working. Mitsubishi are aware of the issue and should replace under warranty.
I have a 2015 version. It was my primary car with a short range EV for local trips. Now I have a long range EV the PHEV is downgraded to my local car. Last time I put petrol in it showed 347mpg.
Here in US we get 5 year 60 mile everything, and 10 year 100,000 mile power train warranty
Had 2 Outlanders if your a family with a dog etc doing those short runs to football, swimming & school it’s a stunning vehicle. Charge it regularly and go Octopus Energy for cheap overnight charging you won’t regret it, I believe Mitsubishi may be coming back to the UK if so I’d be first in line for the new Outlander.
The 5 year mechanical and 8 year drive electrics warranty started with post November 2015 cars (MY16). Previous models had 3/5 years. The sweet spot in my opinion is a March 2017 registered 4h or higher to get the best spec and free road tax with the 5/8y warranty.
I have a 2015 model Gx4h with the facelift and zero tax, used to have a 2015 Gx3h model before hand non facelift and was ok. Come back to one from full electric traded in a mg ev due to problems with car, had a BMW i3 for full year and was great.
I could get around 30miles on phev but as we all know depends on the conditions and temp.
This would be a terrible buy if you are a high mileage motorist. For me, with my daily driving usually under 20 miles, I generally only use the petrol engine at weekends. Driving 350 miles through France recently, 4 up with a roofbox, gave 32 mpg.
Never bother with fast chargers. They are more expensive than running on petrol.
Great, concise video Tom.
We are thinking of buying a 2015 version thats only done 28500km, one owner, should we?? Its only $NZD30k (divide 2.5 for UK pounds)
Interesting. The only charging station from my flat in London is a 20-minute and 30-minute walk away. Is there any point getting one? My lexus RX400H is perfect but Sad Khan doesn't like them anymore.
With the car tax thingy, if i buy a 2019 phev and it is now 4 years old does that mean i only have one year of luxury car tax to pay ?
I'm tempted to buy an old one, throw away the petrol engine, and add a few more batteries.
Works perfectly as a school run car IF you have later models (2.4) that have electric heater. With older 2 litre engine you had to use petrol engine to warm up cabin - defeating the object of fuel saving or use it like an old land rover with no heater!! 2.4s also have heated screen and remote warm up whilst still plugged in which is perfect as well. Get into a de-frosted toasty warm car with clear windows! I've had both and they have been 100% reliable.
Is actually a misconception that they older models need to use the ICE to run the heater.
Is only the AC that causes the ICE to kick in.
IF you keep the heater on (no AC) on one or two bars, the ICE does NOT engage.
I've run my 2015 model like this for years.
I live in London and do 95% of my motoring on pure electric.
Mine has the heated seats, so pretty toasty in winter.
@@michaelggriffiths ??? I'm on my second outlander, the first one didn't have separate electric heating system. The only way to get heat in the car was using ice. Only reason I changed to a newer model.
I have the 2014 phev and heater works on low @ 20c any higher and ice kicks in I generally have my heater on low @19c in the colder months
What does "68 or 19 registered car" mean (04:10 timecode)?
68 is late 2018 and 19 is early 2019
@@MrStuffedowl thank you!
I'm considering buying the Mitsubushi Outlander PHEV hybrid in the UK. It ticks all the boxes, but just worried about the battery. Looking 2017 to 2019 models as that fits my budget. Should I be concerned about the battery?
Don’t know if your ended up buying one of course, but I don’t think you need to worry about the battery. My 2nd hand 2017 model has done 75k with no problems with the battery. Also, not one Outlander battery has had to be replaced under warranty yet in the UK.
As much as I'd like to agree with others opinions that PHEVs are a good stepping-stone to a full BEV, the problem comes with the demographic of the drivers i.e. mostly company car drivers taking advantage of the very low BIK taxation rates.
And, having been a busy rep myself for many years, I'm pretty confident in saying that the VAST majority of these drivers will infrequently / never bother to charge the battery or, even if they do, then their longer mileage journeys negates any real environmental advantage of the 'few' electric miles they get at the beginning of their drive.
I did some analysis of BMW330e vs BMW320d stats, for a 'typical' rep mileage of about 600 miles per 5-day week (about 28,000 business miles per year).
Even though the 330e would do approximately 150 miles a week on electric (assuming, in ideal conditions, it was charged every night ready for the next day) the other 450 miles per week would be at about 38-40 mpg (about 12 gallons of fuel) and about 165g/km CO2 (118.8kg of CO2).
The 320d would do all 600 miles per week at about 60mpg (10 gallons of fuel) and 123g/km CO2 (118.0kg of CO2)
So, the PHEV version is more environmentally damaging if driven longer distances.
And, at an average of 120 miles per day, that's WELL within the daily range of the vast majority of full BEVs.
Yes, but it offers great value for a 2nd/3rd owner who gets a cheap plug-in hybrid with a battery that hasn’t done too many charge/discharge cycles, and still has plenty of life left in it.
The solution is simple, stop drilling for crude oil and swap to carbon neutral/negative bio (and eventually synth) fuels. People will plug in their PHEV at every opportunity when they see that first fill up bill and will use a little pump fuel as possible. A small 100km battery PHEV is much more than what a vast majority of people need for daily driving. Plus we can severely decrease the amount of lithium and other metals needed to be transported and processed so the world driving population can hoard batteries to ease their range anxiety. For the rare long distance driving outliers a full BEV would make sense for them (if they can reliably charge them on their routes).
Of the dozen or so PHEV drivers I've met every one of them plugs in at home and if it's available at work, it's essentially heavily discounted fuel, who really walks by an outlet or charging station at home or work and says, "meh, I want to go out of my way and pay more at the pump". Each type of EV has their place and customer preference.
In general, PHEV software does need to be smarter and more selective in when to use the ICE and when to use the battery. PHEV battery packs need to be a bit larger while using smaller 3 cylinder turbo ICEs with flex fuel options paired with a planetary gearbox (very light, small, efficient and reliable). Plus this isn't the '80s, contemporary ICE reliability is very high in general, more often than not it's the electronics and super complicated transmissions in cars that fail prematurely these days.
Just think how much better it should be with 50+ mile range for 2023
Good review - detailed, useful advice is excellent. Thanks
I'm considering one, not all of us can afford a pure electric and these are available at a fraction of the price.
is it bad or safe for a PHEV to leave the fuel tank empty? If fuel can go off, and you're just using the electric only mode?
I was told this was a self changing hybrid I guess I was told wrong . So helpful video . I thought I was right . Back to the drawing board
It can self charge or charge from a plug. It has all the options unlike wasteful non plugin hybrids.
It IS a self-charging hybrid. It has a charge button near the gear selected. The petrol engine does get noisier when you’re charging though, a bit like driving it in the wrong gear.
How much does it cost on average to use a public charger 🔌 to get the 80 % ? I don’t have a driveway so might not be easy for me to plug to my house or install the special charger .
Depends on where you charge pod point is 40p per kwh and a 80% charge from flat is around £1.10 insta volt however is 66p per kwh and is around £2.80 80% takes about 20 mins as stated in the video. Tesco / sainsbury have free charge points at some stores these take around 2 hours 30 mins to completely charge to 100%
I would recommend anyone looking at or has a hybrid to download zap map I shows you where every charge point is and what I costs although some are a little outdated and takes us drivers to let them know price changes and where new points have been installed.
Does the outlander turn into a hybrid once it's battery goes down to like 20%?
In my experience it will run on ev mode until battery is empty or you engage save or charge modes. Hope this helps.
Yes , you don’t have to do anything when the battery runs too low it switches to hybrid operation itself. Save and charge are for you to save a charged battery, (eg to use in town driving where it’s more efficient), and to charge the battery directly from the engine respectively.
Yeah Mitsi are amazing with their petrol engine to EV integration!
I really like this car and I am thinking to get one soon ❤
Really good and accurate review thanks
Hello
Does it recharge the battery While you’re driving on gas on the highway if you are on a long trip?
Yes
Rapid charge connector
I want for car segment of petrol-assisted EVs to appear.
I wish we got U.K. prices in the U.S.
Main issue with the car is the Mitsubishi BMS that restricts range and needs to be reset to get the range back. This was a known major issue a couple of years ago hen I was following this issue.
And Mitsubishi have replaced at least one battery in Australia as part of that known issue.
Wasn't "unplugged ev' channel by any chance? 😉😅
@@phmtb I think so.
I did 116000 miles in mine in 3 1/2 years and regularly got 28 miles on the battery. The only issue was the suspension was wallowly by the time it was replaced.
Great video.
I swapped my Outlander for a Model 3 in March. The Tesla is fun but I really miss the Mitsi in terms of space, practicality and the relaxed driving.
On a long run with no en-route charging I was getting around 35mpg. My daily commute cost me nothing, done on full electric with free workplace charging. Generally around 25 miles EV range, a bit less in winter, a little better in summer.
Definitely a one speed box, i used to get some funny looks when putting the foot down to overtake and it sounded like I had forgotten to change up. Surprisingly quick for what it is but certainly not an exciting drive.
Had they supplied the new model into Europe I would have seriously considered another Outlander.
As for using fast chargers, why not? If, as a BEV driver, someone on a charger for 20mins makes such an impact on your day, maybe you should have gone PHEV instead?
My cousin has one of these and loves it but he isn't doing big mileages like me. My question is this, I drive a diesel and am proud of it but I'm also keenly aware given the war against them particularly given that its brand, Renault in my case have dropped them now entirely from all of their cars that I'll either have to go to another brand to get diesel or go hybrid or electric. My reason for diesel is I'm doing regular 70 miles plus trips for commuting to and from work but my question is this, given that hybrids and EVs aren't great on the motorway, are there any bar the super expensive brands like Tesla for EV and the Volkswagen group for example for hybrids that are any use on the motorway?
You could try the Outlander PHEV!. It works quite well on the motorway and will give 100mpg plus over a 70 mile trip.
@@barrycoleman7040 not on the motorway it won't at 70mph plus you don't even get android auto on it and Mitsubishi is pulling out of the UK. Plus it's ugly.
@@stevencampbell1150 Well, I can get that mpg on mine, but I don't break the speed limits habitually. Mine also has CarPlay and Android auto. Mitsubishi isn't pulling out of the UK, they are now just offering after sales servicing, not new cars. I'll be getting mine serviced at an independent anyway. You say you're "proud" to drive a diesel - bizarre. My last tank of fuel gave me 95mpg, as I'm able to charge it often. Ugly? Yes, you have a point there.😊
@@barrycoleman7040 yes but are you travelling on a motorway for 30 + miles? I doubt that. Not only that but it takes you how many hours to charge to get that mpg? And what happens when you run out of charge? I guarantee it'll not be 95mpg it'll be more like about 40 which I can happily trounce at 51-52mpg and it only takes me about 15 minutes to fill.
@@stevencampbell1150 what’s your car? 52mpg isn’t great for a diesel unless you’re really exceeding the speed limit by a long way. On a 70 mile trip with 30 miles on motorway my PHEV will get 60-70mpg. The Outlander is old technology now, but still viable. Whether we like it or not all cars will be fully electric within a few years. I charge overnight, and if I need more petrol it takes me 5 minutes to fill the tank.
Looks like a SAAB 9-3 in the front.
I wasn’t sure I wanted one of these until I realised I could annoy Tesla drivers by making them queue when I don’t really need the power 😂
I currently own a petrol outlander (which I love) and WAS thinking of buying the Hybrid but the deal stopper was the fuel economy you mentioned when on long runs put me off strait away.
Also battery life of 8 years so replacing them is expensive so all in all, a false economy.
Nice one there
Gosh you can get these now for £15,000
why is it stopping selling us this car???
Outlander PHEV might've sold decently, but in general Mitsubishi's sales have been in a nosedive across Europe for a while now so they're just not bothering to develop cars for Europe anymore, so no more Outlander PHEV. They're just going to sell Renault/Nissan based cars here in Europe from now on.
@@shroomyesc One has to suspect that this move is part of a deal that Mitsu agreed with Renault/Nissan in exchange for something (BEV technology?)
No longer sold in uk or Europe the dealer network has fallen apart and so service and repair is getting hard. No update for battery management etc
Yeah our rear brakes cost so much! Even just to change the pads.
Good review, not as many cringeworthy "jokes?" as normal from Tom. PS The coat does not suit you get something darker.
Who the hell do you think you are?
It is and it isn't
Yeah they have a CVT. I don't know what this guy has been smoking?
No. They don't. Either the engine runs as a generator to push power into the electric motors, or it directly drives the friont axle via the single gear. There is - quite literally - no gearbox or any description.
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PSA: do not spend 25k on one of these, ever. When an Enyaq starts at 32k these look very old
Depends on your needs. A 25k PHEV would do 50% more miles when fully fuelled than a 32k Enyaq. You would need to spend nearer 40k to get a 300 mile total range. But, if you only do short journeys then I agree with you.
ph"EV" - lol 🤣
underestimated joke :D