Public awareness is important, my husband is a forest fire fighter and in 2019 there was a fire in grant county oregon that they allowed to burn and the public not understanding why they were nott puting the fire out imediatly, complained about mishandling the fire.
Only fight the fires when they threaten major population centers. What we need is a better solution with the resulting smoke that seems to shroud our cities for the entire summer, at least, that's the case where I live in Alberta, Canada. Right now, in May, our air quality is so bad it breaks the 1-10 scales that are set. Opening the door and taking 1 breath makes me choke. People can't live like this.
If we put them out quickly, there is way less smoke. Around my small community, any timber lost to fire, cost jobs, income & revenue for every taxing agency !!!
The light is finally coming on I just lived through the worst The Camp Fire NOW everyone should know something needs to be done screw the environmentalist that have no idea what they are doing they are making it worse not better
Looks to me like most of them still haven't learned a damn thing they're going to keep putting the fires out it's going to keep getting thicker until it's all destroyed and we don't have any Forest left at all then throw a couple hundred dead bodies in there with it
If we want to fix it just stop putting the fires out. We are just screwing it up even more. let them burn through let nature regrow and we don't touch it after that that's the only way to fix it. Anything more than that and were messing up. When are people going to learn we can not do better than nature? There is litterally no point in even trying. All we do is make things worse.
Typical eastern "expert" mentality dictating things "out west." Let'r burn. Use taxpayer money to force those people "out west" to do what we tell'em to. Create impossible barriers to logging. Plant enviro-wackos in government agencies to fight any sensible solutions. Let'r burn. Throw spikes and wrenches into the gears of compromise. Fool the public dupes into thinking that selective logging, thinning and controlled burning won't work when it actually does. These efforts save millions of tax dollars, they actually bring money into the government. They save wildlife habitat, stream quality and beautiful vistas. But no, let's let nature or careless humans start fires in the heat of summer and let them get out of control and burn hundreds of thousands of acres. The USFS favorite response: We don't fight fires, we manage them." Right.
We probably should let more forest fires burn naturally and even get out of control, well out in places sufficiently remote, which there are fewer places like that, as the world human population grows and grows, as it should, and for people to grow, is far more important, but that leaves less places to let forest fires just burn their natural wild course anymore. Wilderness fires are not easily controlled during a summer, a reason to let more fires run their natural course. So now we have to make a big deal about forest fires are that natural? "Only you can stop forest fire fighting." -what Smokey Bear would have said, had he been free I agree with many of your points, about the enviro-wackos opposing anything that benefits humanity.
I live in western MT, right near a 50k acre fire last year. Yes it's sad, preventing such things is impossible. Humans have significantly altered forest ecology, centuries old trees used to be able to survive fires easily. Now few exist and most forests are composed of dense trees less than 100 years old. Fuel reduction is the only answer through fire and thinning. The trees that are valuable for logging though are valuable to forest health(big old trees).
Well that tour was of a burned area. Many areas are not so burned, not currently. And soon it will green back up. In fact, didn't I notice some green grass already? A 50 acre fire is nothing much, that is well within natural and normal, well if it would conveniently happen far enough away from where people live. But the forests are far too vast to be adequately managed by only some sensible controlled burns. And most of the prescribed thinning and logging, is never going to happen, let's be honest about that. Forests probably need some natural burns also, natural forest fires that sometimes gradually spread over a large area as they burn largely unchallenged for many weeks, largely because they are not being fought, many forest fires are not threatening much and do not need to be fought, or there are too many other wildfires burning all at the same time that take away all of the firefighting resources from less important fires. Yes, I imagine that out west is a lot of overgrown and wild wildfire-prone semi-desert. Dry and overgrown forests that can easily be set ablaze by a few inevitable natural lightning strikes. And I think that many remote-enough wildfires, should be allowed to grow (or fizzle) naturally during the heat of summer. Like anything else, firefighting is subject to budgets, and limits of the technology, and we just can not afford to much manage all of the most remote areas. But I very much disagree with leftists who want to deny people access to the vast wilderness lands as if humans were "invaders" or something. People should be welcome to explore, hike, to live there, but should be aware of some of the risks of living in such places, and take themselves, appropriate precautions, clear some space of combustible brush away from their homes, and design their homes to be more fire-safe and to not ignite due to merely a cloud of embers blowing around. American homes are built so stupidly and shoddy.
Sir - I see so many do what you did in your comment - throwing out negative views because you just have to be angry and complain about something -- but you didn't bother to pay attention to the video. It is about fire ecology -- about prescribed burns and changing some fire management practices. It is about knowledge and understanding a very important issue. How will our country ever be better if people never listen to each other and attack, attack, attack. You probably have valuable views to offer, but they would be much stronger if you would listen, be open-minded and THEN comment. I do say this respectfully.
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Public awareness is important, my husband is a forest fire fighter and in 2019 there was a fire in grant county oregon that they allowed to burn and the public not understanding why they were nott puting the fire out imediatly, complained about mishandling the fire.
Great message, Thank you for sharing !
Controlled burns and sustainable logging. We need to treat forests in the West like America's gardens. We need to plant, cut, and burn.
Great job on controlled burn of Cherokee National Forest.
Only fight the fires when they threaten major population centers.
What we need is a better solution with the resulting smoke that seems to shroud our cities for the entire summer, at least, that's the case where I live in Alberta, Canada.
Right now, in May, our air quality is so bad it breaks the 1-10 scales that are set. Opening the door and taking 1 breath makes me choke. People can't live like this.
If we put them out quickly, there is way less smoke. Around my small community, any timber lost to fire, cost jobs, income & revenue for every taxing agency !!!
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So why can't you cut down other unburned timber?
The light is finally coming on I just lived through the worst The Camp Fire NOW everyone should know something needs to be done screw the environmentalist that have no idea what they are doing they are making it worse not better
A little Forrest management goes a long way. Stop letting the environmentals tie up timber sales in appeals.
It’s not saying logging forests are good it is saying burning off the understory is a good thing.
Looks to me like most of them still haven't learned a damn thing they're going to keep putting the fires out it's going to keep getting thicker until it's all destroyed and we don't have any Forest left at all then throw a couple hundred dead bodies in there with it
If we want to fix it just stop putting the fires out. We are just screwing it up even more. let them burn through let nature regrow and we don't touch it after that that's the only way to fix it. Anything more than that and were messing up. When are people going to learn we can not do better than nature? There is litterally no point in even trying. All we do is make things worse.
This footage looks old.
probably as such videos experience a sort of a backlash from UA-cam as it has a unjustified potential to promote green businesses.
Bob Nelson totally just grabbed some charcoal and totally rubbed in on his shirt, needless to say that fake work look doesn’t fool me buddy.lol
Typical eastern "expert" mentality dictating things "out west." Let'r burn. Use taxpayer money to force those people "out west" to do what we tell'em to. Create impossible barriers to logging. Plant enviro-wackos in government agencies to fight any sensible solutions. Let'r burn. Throw spikes and wrenches into the gears of compromise. Fool the public dupes into thinking that selective logging, thinning and controlled burning won't work when it actually does. These efforts save millions of tax dollars, they actually bring money into the government. They save wildlife habitat, stream quality and beautiful vistas. But no, let's let nature or careless humans start fires in the heat of summer and let them get out of control and burn hundreds of thousands of acres. The USFS favorite response: We don't fight fires, we manage them." Right.
We probably should let more forest fires burn naturally and even get out of control, well out in places sufficiently remote, which there are fewer places like that, as the world human population grows and grows, as it should, and for people to grow, is far more important, but that leaves less places to let forest fires just burn their natural wild course anymore. Wilderness fires are not easily controlled during a summer, a reason to let more fires run their natural course. So now we have to make a big deal about forest fires are that natural?
"Only you can stop forest fire fighting." -what Smokey Bear would have said, had he been free
I agree with many of your points, about the enviro-wackos opposing anything that benefits humanity.
Did you even watch the video? The whole point is that we need to better manage forests through prescribed and natural burns as well as thinning...
I live in western MT, right near a 50k acre fire last year. Yes it's sad, preventing such things is impossible. Humans have significantly altered forest ecology, centuries old trees used to be able to survive fires easily. Now few exist and most forests are composed of dense trees less than 100 years old. Fuel reduction is the only answer through fire and thinning. The trees that are valuable for logging though are valuable to forest health(big old trees).
Well that tour was of a burned area. Many areas are not so burned, not currently. And soon it will green back up. In fact, didn't I notice some green grass already?
A 50 acre fire is nothing much, that is well within natural and normal, well if it would conveniently happen far enough away from where people live.
But the forests are far too vast to be adequately managed by only some sensible controlled burns. And most of the prescribed thinning and logging, is never going to happen, let's be honest about that. Forests probably need some natural burns also, natural forest fires that sometimes gradually spread over a large area as they burn largely unchallenged for many weeks, largely because they are not being fought, many forest fires are not threatening much and do not need to be fought, or there are too many other wildfires burning all at the same time that take away all of the firefighting resources from less important fires.
Yes, I imagine that out west is a lot of overgrown and wild wildfire-prone semi-desert. Dry and overgrown forests that can easily be set ablaze by a few inevitable natural lightning strikes. And I think that many remote-enough wildfires, should be allowed to grow (or fizzle) naturally during the heat of summer. Like anything else, firefighting is subject to budgets, and limits of the technology, and we just can not afford to much manage all of the most remote areas. But I very much disagree with leftists who want to deny people access to the vast wilderness lands as if humans were "invaders" or something. People should be welcome to explore, hike, to live there, but should be aware of some of the risks of living in such places, and take themselves, appropriate precautions, clear some space of combustible brush away from their homes, and design their homes to be more fire-safe and to not ignite due to merely a cloud of embers blowing around. American homes are built so stupidly and shoddy.
Sir - I see so many do what you did in your comment - throwing out negative views because you just have to be angry and complain about something -- but you didn't bother to pay attention to the video. It is about fire ecology -- about prescribed burns and changing some fire management practices. It is about knowledge and understanding a very important issue. How will our country ever be better if people never listen to each other and attack, attack, attack. You probably have valuable views to offer, but they would be much stronger if you would listen, be open-minded and THEN comment. I do say this respectfully.
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