@@joshsmith3650it's pointless to do straight 8 or 16 against Jamie. Tyler's approach gave Jamie 4 letters so that's probably strategically the best way to beat him
@@mr.snapdazzle5416the only part about that which bothered me was Tyler’s pre game interview when he mentioned he hasn’t been practicing flatground much lately. We all know that was a flamboyant lie. Chris Roberts even accidentally outed him a few minutes later when he said Tyler has been at the Berrics everyday from 8am-8pm. I will say as much hate as I’ve directed towards Tyler i don’t dislike him quite as much as after the championship. He did have a few redeeming moments but he also still pulled some of the same things which made most of us dislike him in the first place
I love how Roberts and Mo made absolutely Zero positive comments about Jamie. Even after his insane come back. Almost as if they weren't allowed to speak positively about him. That shit is so fucking wack to me. Hopefully the Berrics dont come back and Cariuma goes under. Kobra Kai energy. Bad for skateboarding.
After he won the Berrics last year I was thinking he would appear on the NineClub podcast. Not just me that noticed then. But I wasn't really paying attention to the commentary this year so didn't hear what yourself mentioned.
@@albossman8854 It was like he doesnt exist at all. Dude is amazing skater that won two times in a row and neither Roberts or Mo did not have a single positive thing to say about him. When his name was mentioned it was just the data. "he won last year and he's back to hold the title" The guys amazing he made a massive name for himself. Came outta nowhere and won the berrics twice in a row and pro skateboarding is on some cool kids circle jerk shit. Its stupid.
Nah being a narcissist is like a core belief of Scientology he just thinks anyone who criticize him is out to get him that’s a big part of their beliefs.
@@bewatermyfriend7355 not narcissist like the personality disorder, but more because of the way Scientologist are trained to believe that everyone else is against them. They call it a “suppressive person”
Instead of filling a SKATE tournament finals with filler, they should fill it with games of, hear me out, SKATE. Invite people who want to perform in inconsequential games of great entertainment value that bend the rules for fun. Like a kicker game of skate. Or a flat bar etc. Or cool matchups like An Andy Andersen VS Vallely match or a Pro VS an audience member for prizes. Anything but what we saw.
I hope I NEVER see Andy Anderson or Mike Vallely in a BATB game again in my life. I was with your idea all until then. Those two being in any future BATB seasons will destroy the whole thing or at the very least result in “no Andy Anderson sh!t” being read in the rules of all future matches
@@itsyeaboi5333 no it wouldn’t. People like Andy Anderson and Johnny giger have played before and it ended up being really lame. All that happens is someone like Andy does some stupid pogo or weird primo tricks that no one has ever seen or even thought to do and letters rack up really quick cuz there are no rules. It’s dumb and has been tried before.
Seriously did him dirty not inviting him back this season. Dude got Griffin to T in round 1 last season. Man very well could’ve made it to finals if he could have finished Griffin. I think Spencer, Tyler, and Griffin are the 3 best flat skaters atm (consistency and variety of tricks).
every time peterson lands a questionable trick he just stares at the ground. he knows exactly what hes doing is not cool but it does not matter. Just awful
Tyler is really good. But he's like a closeted sociopath. He says he didn't practice a lot, doesn't think about the game too much, he says he likes a nice long game but he went for Jamie's throat right away and it still wasn't enough. So much contradiction and you can really see him get rattled. He knows he's done when Jamie gets to be offense. Props to him but he goofy af. Jamie really another level. Damn. Had me worried there a bit but I did keep thinking at the back of my mind that Jamie just needs one mistake from Tyler.
Yeah it’s unprecedented how much Tyler prepped for this game. Hard double flip, Merlin twist and mike no flip (both revealed against chris cole), etc. Even the nollie frontside flip opener was handpicked since Tyler gave Jamie a letter with that last year. And Jamie just missed a Fakie frontside flip in round 3, which is why Tyler threw that in too. Tyler’s insanely talented at flatground, but he deffo watched tons of film for this (probably including DumbData’s roshambo breakdown.
@@johnkirby3 fr man. I saw their pre game interview with him saying contradicting stuff. Anyway. He's really good. But he really sketchy as hell too up there.
Watching people all over the internet hate on Jamie is insane to me. If you're tuning into a flatground game of skate to complain about flatground wizardry, then you should probably just go watch peoples street parts.
Berrics should pull the plug on BATB, it has lost all of its magic. Bad brackets yes, but also the energy of the games is so weird. These games used to be fun because of the way pros used to battle with basic tricks first then crazy tricks cuz their whole fuckin lives weren't staked on this one game so winning the game as quick as possible at all costs wasn't the goal. Of course they still wanted to win, but it wasn't what their whole careers were based off of. Yes it is a competition and its not slimy to be only focused on winning, it just makes for a boring game
underrated comment. I agree with this. season 1-6 were the best. It was after the pros vs joes that it went downhill when they brought in the clowns. Season 10 was alright too and the icon and pro section in season 12 the rest has been absolutely boring to watch. And also, what happened with Reda? That guy was funny as hell.
Audience takes it just as serious and acts like they are living through competitors or the guys are skating for them. Comment sections now on games: "Omg Doelling is my King, I'm honestly shedding tears right now. He defended Jamie's hard tricks.. such a positive humble guy who played amazing against Jamie, thank you so much Zach, you made me cry
Griffin did 5 plasma spins in a row during warm ups so i thought for sure he would be doing that in a game. He can toy with just about anyone but he never brings out more insane tricks that he obviously has consistent.
I think he would like to do a plasma spin, but he already has a clown tricks skater reputation, so doing a trick with such a weird foot position would not help him get rid of that
@@brun0mq the irony is, Tyler's the one that did an arguably clown trick that's never been done before in BATB, let alone be defended: pressure heel body varial. While Jamie got Tyler letters, by doing tricks that also well known skaters have done previously in BATB. - Switch FS flip - FS big heel (PRod's favorite I guess? Even Moose gave it another 180 to make it FS gazelle heel vs Cole) - BS bigger spin (one of Shane O'Neill's special) - Varial double heel (PRod) - Impossible under flip/Mike Mo flip (of course, Mike Mo) Absolutely no hate to Tyler. Dude's sick and very skilled! Just to make it straight to those saying that Jamie only does circus/clown tricks. Yes, in Instagram. And probably some in last year's BATB12. But that's what refreshing, cause I've seen some comments in older BATB videos wanting more variety of tricks.
i honestly think these games should mostly be about skaters that have been in the game longer with actual parts. kinda weird seing really really talented all round skaters being put with people who just master flat.
Griffin Peterson 2 will definitely go down as one of the greatest battles and come backs for that matter. Everyone knew that was the true championship battle and hopefully next year they balance out the bracket better instead of just thinking about all their sponsored skaters.
it’s unfortunate to see so much criticism in the skate scene. here’s some personal appreciations of each final four skater to help bring some positivity and love ❤️ i appreciate: jamie’s chill and humble demeanor tyler’s ninja-like smooth style nick’s colorful sweater steeze chris’s decades of shredding ❤❤❤
His style is up there with Dylan Jaeb on flat. Unbelievable precision and I’m genuinely surprised he missed that last inward heel bigger flip. His approach is really the only way to take down Jaime and he came so damn close again. Dude has to be so bummed for losing the title to Jaime yet again. He looked very nervous before the game but he skated as well as always, just the death blow. I was rooting for him and don’t get the massive amount of hate he gets (yea he skates the Berrics a lot, it’s a contest and it should be taken seriously). Also rooted for Holt but know he had no chance against Tyler or Jamie, those two have been the best for two seasons straight (crazy thing is Jamie was down to T in round 1 last season against Spencer Barton, Spencer deserved a spot back for sure). In a different timeline Jamie would’ve been out round 1 and possibly not been invited back, maybe Spencer would’ve gotten all the way to finals but we’ll never know. They def need to invite Spencer back and get Jaeb in there too, get better brackets instead of random.
Nahhh, people still dislike Tyler. No double hardflip is going to change that any time soon. The guy's a douche when it comes to doing tricks clean. And even when one of his own redo calls might have effectively lost him the game, it is striking neither Steve nor he called for more redoes throughout the game. It's good Jamie doesn't really care either way. But I don't think Tyler should have won in a white wash fashion anyway. It wouldn't have been justified. And yeah all the inbetween ads and filler footage was terrible. I'm glad I did not watch it live and could skip through all of that.
Jamie does have great sportsmanship glad you mentioned that lmao all around good dude that deserves the win even if the tricks can be circus like at times his shit is legit at the end of the day
Would have liked to see Cepeda in this finals. Cepeda and Cole game was one of my favorites but Cepeda held back and respected Cole too much. Cost him a finals night in my opinion. He would have easily taken down Holt and made for a more interesting game against Jaime if he won the Roshambo.
I’ve been watching every game of the batb finals throughout its history, and it never really was a professional event. Maybe season 4 through like 7 those where the best ones. I don’t care though if its bad. It has become a tradition in my life to watch it. Although personally I would love to see the more established pros in the finals, but they sort of messed up this year. Props to Cole for taking it to the finals. That was unexpected! While the Berrics is not what it used to be, I still appreciate their efforts to host this shitshow every year. Props to Jamie for taking it home again!
People who says that Griffin makes clown tricks are just making excuses to not admit that he is currently the best flatground skater. Just face the facts, he has as much consistency in the "unusual tricks" as he has on the "normal tricks". And also it never ceases to amaze me how ice cold he is during a competition. And after that comeback followed by Griffin's Victory, i just have one thing to say... HEY TYLER CHEATERSON AND STEVE BERRA, IT SUCKS TO BE YOU RIGHT NOW! HAHAHAHA
i actually reckon they should have video reviews on questionable tricks in the finals. It would prolong the game and add an element of excitement as everyone watches the big screen in anticipation to see if the trick was legit or not (plus who doesn't like seeing tricks in slo mo).
That Griffin/Peterson game WAS SOMETHING ELSE! It made me love them both. As you stated, Peterson’s defensive double Hard flip stomp really changed the vibe in the air for the better. Definitely the best game of the night❤
making the skaters wait that long also made them more anxious.... and the flatground should have been bigger.... berrics needs to make it better for the skateboarders strait up.... they were all so nervous you could feel it.... i was blown away by how much filler was in the event... not even fun filler either like mini side games or something new
I was not unhappy with that Chicago edit at all. Didn’t even know it was a Cariuma ad, I just saw rad skating in a city that skaters consistently sleep on 🤷♂️
those nerves were real on Nick Holt I felt for him cause he was KILLIN it before he lost control against Jamie! They should do a NBA style Finalz with the Best Of The Best!
Although everyone has some degree of hate towards the Berrics, i have been watching the Berrics for a freakin decade now... Them changing locations is kind of a big thing for me, i'm gonna miss this park/location
I got there around 6:20 and they didn’t even scan my tickets. Anyone could have walked in. Spencer Barton and Tyler Peterson need to come back next season. Ps you sat next to knucklehead Tom from punk rock fight club.
The amount of hate towards Jamie in the stream was crazy. People really don't have any idea what they're talking about anymore. Even Tyler actually, the hate against him is not justified whatsoever. They are new skaters, they're not expirienced in competetions yet the two of them dominated, straight up. Remove all the bad calls and you still have a bag of tricks between them two that are a fucking honor to the skating community.
Tyler had justifiable hate because he didn't call his own redo (Both in the round 3 finals and with Jamie. Stop pretending that never happened. Jamie did nothing wrong here for the hate but Tyler was trying not to get caught making mistakes. So tired of people ignoring the obvious.
@@googleuser298 Have you ever watched a sport? ever... Apart from the fact that the competor shouldn't question the refree's call, you yourself can't be 100% sure of what the "offence" is. When he was sure that he touched, he called his redo. So no, it's not his fault or his responsibility unlesss he's 100% sure, which he did.
@@H2o3G2a this isn't football where you hope they don't see people holding. It's still considered a gentlemen's game and other skaters know when to call themselves out. Not a hill I would die on man. Did you cheat like that playing skate with even friends?
@H2o3G2a when it is clear he knows he should call himself cause he just stares at the floor, he gets all the hate he should. Bad sportsman ship can win stuff but the hate will follow as it always has. Being tricky and trying to play the reffs has and always will be part of sports and competition, but you take the risk of everyone rightfully being pissed at you.
@@NativeJibroney22 hey idk why this H20 is dying so hard on this kill. It's not a football game where you are hoping a ref doesn't see you holding. Glad I never had friends like h20 trying to cheat on games of cheat 😆
I kinda felt bad when berra ran in to defend the third place game. it totally makes sense and its fair that the dude who makes it to third place gets money.
This is the last BATB in this building. They're now destroying the original Berrics skatepark and will soon move in to a new warehouse in which the future games are gonna take place
@@dakotasir9849 Could go double kickflip, to double Nollie heel, 360 double flip, etc. I’ll state use of this trick is problematic, whack. Of course any skater in these games is capable of double-flipping there tricks, but it’s not a well practiced trick because a single flip is the more natural and consistent component of a trick, when looking at all tricks. So, applying this to learning heaps of tricks with a double flip, yeh of course the other skater could have a wild amount of crazy single flip tricks in all stances, but can lose to double-flipping basics. It becomes not so much about the variety of tricks, but what tricks can the competitor double flip or not, and more. Skater could have a perfect switch inward heel in his bag, but gets a letter on a double fakie heel flip.
Another BATB final’s night that I feel was way too short for the hype. They really need to switch to a best two out of three, there are too many single set games where the opponent can’t even get a chance to set. It would also give us more skating to watch. The Tyler vs Jaime battle was so high level and was the highlight as most expected. Honestly thought Nick held off Jamie longer than I expected but still a quick game, especially for the final match. Two out of three would also change the strategy a bit and we may see tricks we otherwise would not.
Haha "when he stomped the shiiitt out of that double hard" 😂 that had me almost spit my coffee out. You should keep giving minute showings of your hunor like that in your vids.
It’s really the only sane way to watch a BATB final. Just wait until they finish and watch the replay after so you can skip over half of the content that isn’t flatground skating lol
I think a general theme is that they need to take the competition (and the skating) more seriously. I.e. independent refereeing, proper seeding for the draws etc. I generally think sport is more dramatic and interesting when everyone takes it seriously. Save all the "fun" matches for between the real matches on finals day and other videos. I think they'd get more viewers and better sponsorship deals this way.
Wack, you should just watch soccer or something else. We don't need skating to become that lame. Look a Tyler he's so cringe trying so hard to win that zhit
Before the first match started they needed that much time to recover? Also the second send of skaters had to recover while not skating while the first skaters were going? Come on man lol. This had more fillers than the super bowl commercials
4:21 nitpicking a bit, but I'd call that a pressure heel body varial. Despite using his toe to flip it, it flips the way a heelflip would flip. It's basically a traditional pressure flip that flips like an inward heel, but combined with a fs 180 that cancels out the 180 of the board. Just like how you'd do a varial flip+fs 180 in a skateboarding video game to get a kickflip body varial. If his back foot was on the other "corner" of the board it'd be a toe flip body varial (or pressure kickflip... whatever you wanna call it, I can do this one).
Lmao I thought nick and Cole were playing for 3rd place and thought Jamie and Tyler was the actual championship match as I barely followed batb and skipped through the replay to get to the actual games. Glad I only notice now. The Tyler/Jamie final was pretty fucking good for a final.
Dude im over people villainizing tyler. Its the refs call to make about a trick, it was on defense, and its not like he argued it was good, he just let the ref make a call. And for gods sake we've seen ppl get the ok on similar toe drags before, its not that big of a deal. But no everyone wants to hate on berra and cariuma so much they make tyler out to be a devil. Im not defending berra or the berrics or even cariuma, but let tyler be guys ffs. I know most of the haters are probably idiots or kids but damn its disheartening, and disappointing to see you jump in on it DD.
@@frozennorth3426 I'm pretty familiar, I watched the match, I've seen most other matches, and I've seen the DD videos. What else should I know? That's rhetorical
@@dakotasir9849 the whole conversation about Peterson is just a lot bigger than whatever matches you watched and a couple videos on this channel. the world is bigger than that I merely mentioned that in case you’re interested enough (and you absolutely do Not have to be) to go out in search of understanding. that’s all. you can also just keep your current awareness, understanding, and opinion, and that’s ok too
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What was that crazy defense make that Holt did where he somehow managed to stay on his board? I forget what it was but it was one of the wildest roll aways ever
@@non_brewed_condiment lol I’m definitely gonna go back and watch. Honestly I’m surprised someone hasn’t gotten beat up doing that. For someone like Jamie in his first championship that board might’ve meant a lot to him or anyone who has won a championship for that matter. You’re kinda stealing a part of their memory. If this has happened multiple times I’d wanna say some of them are probably the friends of the skater picking up the board so that doesn’t happen
This was the first skate event I saw at my in laws and they were bored as fuck waiting for it to actually start and Steve being cringe every time he spoke. I had to explain why he sounded like a dbag to my inlaws LOL. They were like "what is up with that guy" when he was trying to call people out.
This story cracked me up lol. Your answer to them asking what’s with Berra should’ve just been: he’s a devout scientologist and I’m sorry you have to endure this.
@@mclarensaleenf7 I wasn't even trying to watch it in front of them but I told them I was wanting to watch something live and they welcomed it. We had fun making fun but having to explain Steve lore is insane.
Knock knock..who's there? KARMA! Great breakdown DD. 👏The Data becomes less dumb every episode. Despite the fact that many of us adore the format and prestige of BATB, event organizers keep reminding us that they do not. It's ok to admit this is a sporting event and employ said acumen. First and foremost for a flatground competition: an adequate space to roll in and out of tricks! The tiny board given to Cole by staff members for the 3rd place battle was a "here we go again" moment. Almost funny (not) until the battle ended and they stated themselves the prize money for third place is substantial. Skateboarding has so many categories and aspects, this tournament is one that deserves the legitimacy they use to market and package it.
Jesus Mike mo talking about nobody skunking Chris Cole while the video plays of himself skunking him!!!!!!!!!!😂😂😂😂😂 ah fuck what even is skateboarding these days it’s all about golf!
Ooommmggggg Bryan arnett and his goon squad 😂😂😂😂 woulda been funny to mention he was banned and snuck in. Does seem kinda mean to holt but Jamie for surely dominated the game
Hello dumb data, just wanted to correct you a little on the trick that Tyler did and you called it a pressure kickflip body varial. Its actually pressure heelflip body varial because of the stance and the board rotation. See, if it was kickflip, then Tyler would rotate the same direction as the board did, but Tyler went right and the board went left just like the regular heelflip. Its also the same reason why pressure flip was called a diff variation of inward heel XD. It just rotates the same way as inw heel, same stuff with pressure heel, you just add a body varial on it and thats why it kinda looks like a kickflip. Im not tryna be cocky or something, just giving some words on it. Ive been doing this trick for 1.5 years and I kinda had my eyes rolled out when I saw him doing it. To this day, I was the only person in my city who even knew about it and giving somebody the last latter on this trick was a fun thing to do lol. If you care about it, I can send you a vid explanation of the whole difference between pressure heel bv and kick bv by showing you these two but I dont think its worth any time spent tho, ofc if you are really interested in it
To make finals stand out from other games the berrics should make the game longer maybe instead of just doing skate it could be skateboarder or something
I agree, the finals are far too short and anticlimactic. I’m in favor of switching to a 2 out of 3 for every match though. There’s plenty of early games where guys don’t even get a chance at offense. And we would see more skating, they’d have different strategies so different tricks. Loser of the first game gets starting set for the second game. They’ve been lengthening the game edits by showing trick cuts for far too long the last few years. Go back and watch old BATB and you’ll immediately see what we’ve been missing. The rapid fire cuts hype up the games so much better than long cuts (we don’t need a 10 second cut for every easy trick, only major/consequential tricks). Overall BATB has gotten a lot less enjoyable since last season and that’s big part of it for me. The editing is too slow, bores me to death even with great games. Finals maybe should have “skateboard” but still best 2 outta 3 imo
Wow surprised the shot at Bryan lol why you hating man It was obvious from that angle Nick did not deserve a redo with his foot planet on the ground. And I didn't see Bryan run out until after everyone else so interesting take but definitely sounds personal. 🤦🏽♂️
The switch tre revert was fine, Idk what people are going on about… and the people complaining that Tyler didn’t start with the basics-maybe Tyler wanted to win? Jamie’s so good at flat ground it feels like that’s the only way to have a chance, is to win the roshambo and go all out, Can you blame him? I don’t.
What bothered me was Tyler blatantly lying about not practicing flatground much before the match. We all know thats BS. Chris Roberts even outed him by accident when him and Mike Mo were talking. “Tyler has been here every morning from 8am-8pm.” It was very clear watching Tyler’s offense that he practiced those same tricks over and over and in that same order. None of those tricks were spontaneous. I’d say the few somewhat simple tricks he threw in were intentional to make it not as obvious
@@EDCsteals that was from an interview before the round one game he played. he clearly practiced for Jamie by the fact he learned the mike mo flip and nollie Merlin twist or whatever you wanna call it, but again, that was from an interview before the first round they simply replayed on finals night.
@@oscarflip8561 yeah but like all of us knew before first rounds even started, He was likely to cross paths with Jamie again. It’s not like he didn’t know Jamie was gonna be his toughest opponent from the get go. And whether that interview was from 6 month ago or 6 days ago I don’t believe for a second that he was not heavily practicing flatground preparing for BATB. You can see how seriously he takes his matches and pretending sketchy makes didn’t happen. Hes always wanted to win this thing BAD and it shows.
@@oscarflip8561 I will say I don’t dislike him to the same degree I did before finals night. Seeing him have a bit of fun during the 3rd place battle gained him a bit of favor at least in my opinion. I kinda expected him to be in a crappy mood after losing to Jamie but he was able to move on from it and still play a good game against Cole
lol did anyone catch Tyler’s pre game interview, “I haven’t really been practicing flatground lately.” Immediately followed by Chris Roberts outing him “Tyler has been here everyday from 8am-8pm”😂. Based on his the tricks he laid out on offense it was VERY clear he had his attack planned and routinely practiced before the game. I will say I gained a bit more respect for Tyler after this battle and seeing some actual footage of him skating during the cariuma video. Also he was a bit more likeable during this whole event compared to previous showings. Though I’m sure he knew most people weren’t exactly huge fans of his and likely did whatever he could to avoid anymore hate
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“Bryan arnett and his goon squad” is wildddd 😭😭😭💀💀💀💀💀
Jamie’s comeback against Tyler was awesome. It was a good effort by Tyler to take him down though.
No straight 8 or 16 from him lol. He wanted to play dirty which made me laugh but way less interested until the comeback started
@@joshsmith3650it's pointless to do straight 8 or 16 against Jamie. Tyler's approach gave Jamie 4 letters so that's probably strategically the best way to beat him
@@joshsmith3650 Jamie doesn't do the straight whatever either most of the time
@@mr.snapdazzle5416the only part about that which bothered me was Tyler’s pre game interview when he mentioned he hasn’t been practicing flatground much lately. We all know that was a flamboyant lie. Chris Roberts even accidentally outed him a few minutes later when he said Tyler has been at the Berrics everyday from 8am-8pm. I will say as much hate as I’ve directed towards Tyler i don’t dislike him quite as much as after the championship. He did have a few redeeming moments but he also still pulled some of the same things which made most of us dislike him in the first place
@@EDCsteals to be fair that video was filmed before the season began. It was his deathblow video that played before his first match
I love how Roberts and Mo made absolutely Zero positive comments about Jamie. Even after his insane come back. Almost as if they weren't allowed to speak positively about him. That shit is so fucking wack to me. Hopefully the Berrics dont come back and Cariuma goes under. Kobra Kai energy. Bad for skateboarding.
After he won the Berrics last year I was thinking he would appear on the NineClub podcast. Not just me that noticed then. But I wasn't really paying attention to the commentary this year so didn't hear what yourself mentioned.
@@albossman8854 It was like he doesnt exist at all. Dude is amazing skater that won two times in a row and neither Roberts or Mo did not have a single positive thing to say about him. When his name was mentioned it was just the data. "he won last year and he's back to hold the title" The guys amazing he made a massive name for himself. Came outta nowhere and won the berrics twice in a row and pro skateboarding is on some cool kids circle jerk shit. Its stupid.
@@markp911 yeah he deserves way more respect. coming out of nowhere, his story is amazing, and he proved this year its no fluke
*Steve Berra watching Dumb Data, profusely sweating, waiting to see what gets criticized*
Nah being a narcissist is like a core belief of Scientology he just thinks anyone who criticize him is out to get him that’s a big part of their beliefs.
@@SuperDeucen Yes fair point, as well as an ethnic predisposition to higher rates of neuroticism
@@SuperDeucen What makes you believe he is a narcissist? He seems pretty relaxed to me, smiles a lot, and not the fake smile like most have.
@@bewatermyfriend7355 not narcissist like the personality disorder, but more because of the way Scientologist are trained to believe that everyone else is against them. They call it a “suppressive person”
@@bewatermyfriend7355bruh have you seen any of his rants online? he's unhinged and full of himself
Instead of filling a SKATE tournament finals with filler, they should fill it with games of, hear me out, SKATE. Invite people who want to perform in inconsequential games of great entertainment value that bend the rules for fun. Like a kicker game of skate. Or a flat bar etc. Or cool matchups like An Andy Andersen VS Vallely match or a Pro VS an audience member for prizes. Anything but what we saw.
while charging tickets, they would have to pay those skaters. advertising might be more rentable
I hope I NEVER see Andy Anderson or Mike Vallely in a BATB game again in my life. I was with your idea all until then. Those two being in any future BATB seasons will destroy the whole thing or at the very least result in “no Andy Anderson sh!t” being read in the rules of all future matches
@@EDCstealsnah ur thinking way too hard. A no batb rules exhibition match between guys who can freestyle would be cool and different
@@itsyeaboi5333 no it wouldn’t. People like Andy Anderson and Johnny giger have played before and it ended up being really lame. All that happens is someone like Andy does some stupid pogo or weird primo tricks that no one has ever seen or even thought to do and letters rack up really quick cuz there are no rules. It’s dumb and has been tried before.
op was literally talking about doing games of skate to fill in time between games. were not talking about actual batb games@@EDCsteals
I hope spencer barton gets brought back next year
There isn’t going to be a next year.
Seriously did him dirty not inviting him back this season. Dude got Griffin to T in round 1 last season. Man very well could’ve made it to finals if he could have finished Griffin. I think Spencer, Tyler, and Griffin are the 3 best flat skaters atm (consistency and variety of tricks).
every time peterson lands a questionable trick he just stares at the ground. he knows exactly what hes doing is not cool but it does not matter. Just awful
Tyler is really good. But he's like a closeted sociopath. He says he didn't practice a lot, doesn't think about the game too much, he says he likes a nice long game but he went for Jamie's throat right away and it still wasn't enough. So much contradiction and you can really see him get rattled. He knows he's done when Jamie gets to be offense. Props to him but he goofy af. Jamie really another level. Damn. Had me worried there a bit but I did keep thinking at the back of my mind that Jamie just needs one mistake from Tyler.
You noticed that too lmao he’s doing everything to throw Jamie off. It was a really good game
Yeah it’s unprecedented how much Tyler prepped for this game. Hard double flip, Merlin twist and mike no flip (both revealed against chris cole), etc. Even the nollie frontside flip opener was handpicked since Tyler gave Jamie a letter with that last year. And Jamie just missed a Fakie frontside flip in round 3, which is why Tyler threw that in too. Tyler’s insanely talented at flatground, but he deffo watched tons of film for this (probably including DumbData’s roshambo breakdown.
@@johnkirby3 fr man. I saw their pre game interview with him saying contradicting stuff. Anyway. He's really good. But he really sketchy as hell too up there.
100%
this was more entertaining than the actual event
Word!
For real. Illustrates the difference between audience-first content and brand-first content.
where is the original vid? I cant find it on Berrics
100%
@@cobuspotgieter The sad fact is, what he don't see if how much more profit Steve Berra has made versus Dumb Data
The Pharell monologue was terrible, I'm thinking "He's still talking?" and next thing you know I fell asleep and missed the finals (ET)
watching this with milk and cookies rn
Best way to watch the master work😂❤️🔥
Good shit😂
To me a BATB Game/Finale without a dumb data review wouldn't be the same. So much appreciated!
Watching people all over the internet hate on Jamie is insane to me. If you're tuning into a flatground game of skate to complain about flatground wizardry, then you should probably just go watch peoples street parts.
100% In Jaime, we've been seeing something exceptional. So cool to watch his progression, and his general humanity.
Berrics should pull the plug on BATB, it has lost all of its magic. Bad brackets yes, but also the energy of the games is so weird. These games used to be fun because of the way pros used to battle with basic tricks first then crazy tricks cuz their whole fuckin lives weren't staked on this one game so winning the game as quick as possible at all costs wasn't the goal. Of course they still wanted to win, but it wasn't what their whole careers were based off of. Yes it is a competition and its not slimy to be only focused on winning, it just makes for a boring game
underrated comment. I agree with this. season 1-6 were the best. It was after the pros vs joes that it went downhill when they brought in the clowns. Season 10 was alright too and the icon and pro section in season 12 the rest has been absolutely boring to watch. And also, what happened with Reda? That guy was funny as hell.
Audience takes it just as serious and acts like they are living through competitors or the guys are skating for them. Comment sections now on games:
"Omg Doelling is my King, I'm honestly shedding tears right now. He defended Jamie's hard tricks.. such a positive humble guy who played amazing against Jamie, thank you so much Zach, you made me cry
Griffin did 5 plasma spins in a row during warm ups so i thought for sure he would be doing that in a game. He can toy with just about anyone but he never brings out more insane tricks that he obviously has consistent.
I think he would like to do a plasma spin, but he already has a clown tricks skater reputation, so doing a trick with such a weird foot position would not help him get rid of that
damn.. whats a plasma spin?? i feel old..
@@toneohm fs front foot impossible i think.
@@brun0mq the irony is, Tyler's the one that did an arguably clown trick that's never been done before in BATB, let alone be defended: pressure heel body varial. While Jamie got Tyler letters, by doing tricks that also well known skaters have done previously in BATB.
- Switch FS flip
- FS big heel (PRod's favorite I guess? Even Moose gave it another 180 to make it FS gazelle heel vs Cole)
- BS bigger spin (one of Shane O'Neill's special)
- Varial double heel (PRod)
- Impossible under flip/Mike Mo flip (of course, Mike Mo)
Absolutely no hate to Tyler. Dude's sick and very skilled! Just to make it straight to those saying that Jamie only does circus/clown tricks. Yes, in Instagram. And probably some in last year's BATB12. But that's what refreshing, cause I've seen some comments in older BATB videos wanting more variety of tricks.
i honestly think these games should mostly be about skaters that have been in the game longer with actual parts. kinda weird seing really really talented all round skaters being put with people who just master flat.
I thought the switch tre revert was slop when I saw it for sure. Didn't look like it was what he was trying
They just made a poll on slap forum whether Nick Holt should've gotten a re-do or not. They're pissed at Arnett
Griffin Peterson 2 will definitely go down as one of the greatest battles and come backs for that matter. Everyone knew that was the true championship battle and hopefully next year they balance out the bracket better instead of just thinking about all their sponsored skaters.
Bracket should be randomly made once they have the skaters picked out.
And it should be done live as to ensure it is being done right
Berrics better study the comment section cause yall are revealing gold🥇🌟🌍
The brackets could be done similar as the World Cup, a mix of bracket draw and "strong competitors" spread apart
How that Treflip revert passed??? I am I missing something???? It was an obvious fail.
4:22 It’s a pressure heelflip not a pressure kickflip. Look at the direction it flips
it’s unfortunate to see so much criticism in the skate scene. here’s some personal appreciations of each final four skater to help bring some positivity and love ❤️
i appreciate:
jamie’s chill and humble demeanor
tyler’s ninja-like smooth style
nick’s colorful sweater steeze
chris’s decades of shredding
❤❤❤
THIS!!!!
great analysis, really liked that sweater.
I was in attendance. Something i noticed about tyler is how flawless his technique is. Incredible flatground skater.
totally! he gets a lot of hate but honestly i just appreciate his flawless technique and precise ninja-like style.
@@theskatemonk "ninja-like" is a perfect description.
His style is up there with Dylan Jaeb on flat. Unbelievable precision and I’m genuinely surprised he missed that last inward heel bigger flip. His approach is really the only way to take down Jaime and he came so damn close again. Dude has to be so bummed for losing the title to Jaime yet again. He looked very nervous before the game but he skated as well as always, just the death blow. I was rooting for him and don’t get the massive amount of hate he gets (yea he skates the Berrics a lot, it’s a contest and it should be taken seriously). Also rooted for Holt but know he had no chance against Tyler or Jamie, those two have been the best for two seasons straight (crazy thing is Jamie was down to T in round 1 last season against Spencer Barton, Spencer deserved a spot back for sure). In a different timeline Jamie would’ve been out round 1 and possibly not been invited back, maybe Spencer would’ve gotten all the way to finals but we’ll never know. They def need to invite Spencer back and get Jaeb in there too, get better brackets instead of random.
I really like Tyler's style, so solid and smooth
He has no pop in half his tricks. That fs big spin was a fs shuv with a revert. And he gets away with so many toe drags its just hard to watch.
Nahhh, people still dislike Tyler. No double hardflip is going to change that any time soon. The guy's a douche when it comes to doing tricks clean. And even when one of his own redo calls might have effectively lost him the game, it is striking neither Steve nor he called for more redoes throughout the game. It's good Jamie doesn't really care either way. But I don't think Tyler should have won in a white wash fashion anyway. It wouldn't have been justified. And yeah all the inbetween ads and filler footage was terrible. I'm glad I did not watch it live and could skip through all of that.
Nick with the "omg my trucks". I just dislike when people start making excuses before the game ends. Bring a second board my dude. You are all pros.
It means a lot to Nick. He really puts it all in. We all human. Pipe down.
Berrics is probably moving out of state to avoid California rent & taxes. Austin Texas is my guess
Jamie does have great sportsmanship glad you mentioned that lmao all around good dude that deserves the win even if the tricks can be circus like at times his shit is legit at the end of the day
Would have liked to see Cepeda in this finals. Cepeda and Cole game was one of my favorites but Cepeda held back and respected Cole too much. Cost him a finals night in my opinion. He would have easily taken down Holt and made for a more interesting game against Jaime if he won the Roshambo.
I’ve been watching every game of the batb finals throughout its history, and it never really was a professional event. Maybe season 4 through like 7 those where the best ones.
I don’t care though if its bad. It has become a tradition in my life to watch it. Although personally I would love to see the more established pros in the finals, but they sort of messed up this year. Props to Cole for taking it to the finals. That was unexpected!
While the Berrics is not what it used to be, I still appreciate their efforts to host this shitshow every year. Props to Jamie for taking it home again!
People who says that Griffin makes clown tricks are just making excuses to not admit that he is currently the best flatground skater. Just face the facts, he has as much consistency in the "unusual tricks" as he has on the "normal tricks".
And also it never ceases to amaze me how ice cold he is during a competition. And after that comeback followed by Griffin's Victory, i just have one thing to say...
HEY TYLER CHEATERSON AND STEVE BERRA, IT SUCKS TO BE YOU RIGHT NOW! HAHAHAHA
100% True. Folks need to realize. We've been seeing something exceptional.
for real, they forget jamie got a solid foundation on the basic tricks as well, he isn't just a flatground circus skater
To piggy back on what you just said jamie does this shit down shit off shit into shit out of shit the dude is just unreal on a board
i actually reckon they should have video reviews on questionable tricks in the finals. It would prolong the game and add an element of excitement as everyone watches the big screen in anticipation to see if the trick was legit or not (plus who doesn't like seeing tricks in slo mo).
If VAR in football's anything to go by, then this would suck
@@henryjones8287 i think it would be different in a game of skate since its so much shorter
that would be cool, but those cameras are super expensive
it sounds like it sucked either way @@henryjones8287
Season 13 was way better than 12 imo, it was not like batb back in the day but lets be honest those times are gone..
At this stage, it seems like the best opponent to take down Jamie might be Spencer Barton? Hope he's in the mix for 14
That Griffin/Peterson game WAS SOMETHING ELSE! It made me love them both. As you stated, Peterson’s defensive double Hard flip stomp really changed the vibe in the air for the better. Definitely the best game of the night❤
I just watched it Sunday morning so I could fast forward thru them I already know how they roll
making the skaters wait that long also made them more anxious.... and the flatground should have been bigger.... berrics needs to make it better for the skateboarders strait up.... they were all so nervous you could feel it.... i was blown away by how much filler was in the event... not even fun filler either like mini side games or something new
They lost me at Pharrell
Berra's paid not to call toe drags on TP
Someone needs to rescue Cody I heard he's being held hostage in Chicago
Bring back PJ Ladd from season 5 - 6 and put him against Jamie in next year's first BATB match
I was not unhappy with that Chicago edit at all. Didn’t even know it was a Cariuma ad, I just saw rad skating in a city that skaters consistently sleep on 🤷♂️
those nerves were real on Nick Holt I felt for him cause he was KILLIN it before he lost control against Jamie!
They should do a NBA style Finalz with the Best Of The Best!
Although everyone has some degree of hate towards the Berrics, i have been watching the Berrics for a freakin decade now... Them changing locations is kind of a big thing for me, i'm gonna miss this park/location
i hated the commentary for this. chris, mo, koston - so cringe when you try to be funny but you are not.
My conspiracy theory is that koston will not be part of the next berrics
hes been over it for years....lol
I got there around 6:20 and they didn’t even scan my tickets. Anyone could have walked in. Spencer Barton and Tyler Peterson need to come back next season. Ps you sat next to knucklehead Tom from punk rock fight club.
The amount of hate towards Jamie in the stream was crazy. People really don't have any idea what they're talking about anymore. Even Tyler actually, the hate against him is not justified whatsoever. They are new skaters, they're not expirienced in competetions yet the two of them dominated, straight up. Remove all the bad calls and you still have a bag of tricks between them two that are a fucking honor to the skating community.
Tyler had justifiable hate because he didn't call his own redo (Both in the round 3 finals and with Jamie. Stop pretending that never happened. Jamie did nothing wrong here for the hate but Tyler was trying not to get caught making mistakes. So tired of people ignoring the obvious.
@@googleuser298 Have you ever watched a sport? ever... Apart from the fact that the competor shouldn't question the refree's call, you yourself can't be 100% sure of what the "offence" is. When he was sure that he touched, he called his redo. So no, it's not his fault or his responsibility unlesss he's 100% sure, which he did.
@@H2o3G2a this isn't football where you hope they don't see people holding. It's still considered a gentlemen's game and other skaters know when to call themselves out. Not a hill I would die on man. Did you cheat like that playing skate with even friends?
@H2o3G2a when it is clear he knows he should call himself cause he just stares at the floor, he gets all the hate he should. Bad sportsman ship can win stuff but the hate will follow as it always has. Being tricky and trying to play the reffs has and always will be part of sports and competition, but you take the risk of everyone rightfully being pissed at you.
@@NativeJibroney22 hey idk why this H20 is dying so hard on this kill. It's not a football game where you are hoping a ref doesn't see you holding. Glad I never had friends like h20 trying to cheat on games of cheat 😆
I kinda felt bad when berra ran in to defend the third place game.
it totally makes sense and its fair that the dude who makes it to third place gets money.
So can someone explain to me why it’s the final batb? Are they moving to another building? What is happening?😊
This is the last BATB in this building. They're now destroying the original Berrics skatepark and will soon move in to a new warehouse in which the future games are gonna take place
Its time to give a chance to news flatground skaters to step up the level, a freestyle skater can put Jamie in serious trouble.
i saw the title change happen live! Im about to make a vid on a similar subject matter. just finished your video though good work brother
hopefully the berrics don't come back and Cariuma goes under. So tired of their Kobrai Kai BS.
next year just charge $200 tickets for PJ vs Jamie
Theoretically speaking, as long as they win the roshambo, any skater could just double, triple, quad-flip the basics and win. #multifliprule
You mean do the same trick over? Because season 6 final they set precedent against that
@@dakotasir9849 Could go double kickflip, to double Nollie heel, 360 double flip, etc.
I’ll state use of this trick is problematic, whack. Of course any skater in these games is capable of double-flipping there tricks, but it’s not a well practiced trick because a single flip is the more natural and consistent component of a trick, when looking at all tricks.
So, applying this to learning heaps of tricks with a double flip, yeh of course the other skater could have a wild amount of crazy single flip tricks in all stances, but can lose to double-flipping basics.
It becomes not so much about the variety of tricks, but what tricks can the competitor double flip or not, and more. Skater could have a perfect switch inward heel in his bag, but gets a letter on a double fakie heel flip.
Let's be real, Tyler defense against that double hard is insane.
Another BATB final’s night that I feel was way too short for the hype. They really need to switch to a best two out of three, there are too many single set games where the opponent can’t even get a chance to set. It would also give us more skating to watch. The Tyler vs Jaime battle was so high level and was the highlight as most expected. Honestly thought Nick held off Jamie longer than I expected but still a quick game, especially for the final match. Two out of three would also change the strategy a bit and we may see tricks we otherwise would not.
But then they wouldn’t have time to have Pharrell talk to us about how impactful skateboarding has been on his life. Can’t miss that.
Jamie just gonna win thoes to but I'm all for it
Nick didn't skate nearly as well as he did in his games round 1-3, the game was shorter than expected not longer.
Haha "when he stomped the shiiitt out of that double hard" 😂 that had me almost spit my coffee out. You should keep giving minute showings of your hunor like that in your vids.
Im lucky i watched it hours after it ended so i was able to skip all the filler.
It’s really the only sane way to watch a BATB final. Just wait until they finish and watch the replay after so you can skip over half of the content that isn’t flatground skating lol
I talked with Tyler the day before the games and he said he watched the video for analysis to help decide what tricks he’d choose
I think a general theme is that they need to take the competition (and the skating) more seriously. I.e. independent refereeing, proper seeding for the draws etc. I generally think sport is more dramatic and interesting when everyone takes it seriously. Save all the "fun" matches for between the real matches on finals day and other videos. I think they'd get more viewers and better sponsorship deals this way.
True, it's about time
Wack, you should just watch soccer or something else. We don't need skating to become that lame. Look a Tyler he's so cringe trying so hard to win that zhit
Could it be possible the amount of downtime in between matches was to provide the competitors ample time to rest and recover?
they're 20 years old skating flat they don't need rest
Before the first match started they needed that much time to recover? Also the second send of skaters had to recover while not skating while the first skaters were going? Come on man lol. This had more fillers than the super bowl commercials
more time to let the pressue bulid... better to just make it short and sweet.... thank god i did not watch that live
4:21 nitpicking a bit, but I'd call that a pressure heel body varial. Despite using his toe to flip it, it flips the way a heelflip would flip. It's basically a traditional pressure flip that flips like an inward heel, but combined with a fs 180 that cancels out the 180 of the board. Just like how you'd do a varial flip+fs 180 in a skateboarding video game to get a kickflip body varial. If his back foot was on the other "corner" of the board it'd be a toe flip body varial (or pressure kickflip... whatever you wanna call it, I can do this one).
You’re right I mislabeled that trick. Data is updated thank you king
Lmao I thought nick and Cole were playing for 3rd place and thought Jamie and Tyler was the actual championship match as I barely followed batb and skipped through the replay to get to the actual games.
Glad I only notice now. The Tyler/Jamie final was pretty fucking good for a final.
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They should have cut the repeat rule readings and Pharrel's long-winded life story. Really want to see Tyler v Jamie play eachother again
Dude im over people villainizing tyler. Its the refs call to make about a trick, it was on defense, and its not like he argued it was good, he just let the ref make a call.
And for gods sake we've seen ppl get the ok on similar toe drags before, its not that big of a deal.
But no everyone wants to hate on berra and cariuma so much they make tyler out to be a devil.
Im not defending berra or the berrics or even cariuma, but let tyler be guys ffs.
I know most of the haters are probably idiots or kids but damn its disheartening, and disappointing to see you jump in on it DD.
switch back heel
You do not seem to be familiar with the topic on which you are attempting to speak
@@RecFL yes I'm aware that was the trick everyone freaked out about
@@frozennorth3426 I'm pretty familiar, I watched the match, I've seen most other matches, and I've seen the DD videos. What else should I know? That's rhetorical
@@dakotasir9849 the whole conversation about Peterson is just a lot bigger than whatever matches you watched and a couple videos on this channel. the world is bigger than that
I merely mentioned that in case you’re interested enough (and you absolutely do Not have to be) to go out in search of understanding. that’s all.
you can also just keep your current awareness, understanding, and opinion, and that’s ok too
I watched your videos about batb 13 more than the actual games themselves lol
this mans just saying what were already thinking lol
called it from the beginning that jamie was gonna get the back to back win, once it’s his turn to set he just doesn’t miss, dude is unstoppable 😂
correction: pressure heel flip body
If anyone is familiar with the finals then this won't be a surprise.. I don't care about watching it live. I just avoid spoilers and watch it later
Dumb Data.... Thank you!
is anyone gonna tell him that “pressure kickflip body varial” is not correct? or do i have to be that guy?
pressure heel Body Varial
Im surprised how many peope still care about this event.
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Wow... you made this video in just a day! Amazing data there by itself!
What was that crazy defense make that Holt did where he somehow managed to stay on his board? I forget what it was but it was one of the wildest roll aways ever
Where he pivots twice right? Lol!! He held on for sure
backside heel against chris cole and biggerspin against jamie griffin
Can you please make a category for how many times someone has run out and grabbed the finals winner's board when they start celebrating?
What do u mean like someone snatches the board and ran off with it??? lol when has that happened. I’ve never paid attention to it
@@EDCsteals watch right after Jamie wins when everyone runs out onto the floor
@@non_brewed_condiment lol I’m definitely gonna go back and watch. Honestly I’m surprised someone hasn’t gotten beat up doing that. For someone like Jamie in his first championship that board might’ve meant a lot to him or anyone who has won a championship for that matter. You’re kinda stealing a part of their memory. If this has happened multiple times I’d wanna say some of them are probably the friends of the skater picking up the board so that doesn’t happen
@@EDCsteals oh that's a really good point actually, I didnt think of that. I could totally see a that board meaning something to him.
This channel is so fucking based. I love it
This was the first skate event I saw at my in laws and they were bored as fuck waiting for it to actually start and Steve being cringe every time he spoke. I had to explain why he sounded like a dbag to my inlaws LOL. They were like "what is up with that guy" when he was trying to call people out.
You sat and made your in-laws watch the entire BATB stream?? Kinda an odd choice for movie night dude.
@@sandhanitizer15kinda goated
This story cracked me up lol. Your answer to them asking what’s with Berra should’ve just been: he’s a devout scientologist and I’m sorry you have to endure this.
@@mclarensaleenf7 I wasn't even trying to watch it in front of them but I told them I was wanting to watch something live and they welcomed it. We had fun making fun but having to explain Steve lore is insane.
I could have been home watching the misery but was good with family and drinks. They got into it and was rooting for Cole 😆
Brian Arnett’s goon squad. 😂
Knock knock..who's there? KARMA! Great breakdown DD. 👏The Data becomes less dumb every episode.
Despite the fact that many of us adore the format and prestige of BATB, event organizers keep reminding us that they do not. It's ok to admit this is a sporting event and employ said acumen.
First and foremost for a flatground competition: an adequate space to roll in and out of tricks!
The tiny board given to Cole by staff members for the 3rd place battle was a "here we go again" moment. Almost funny (not) until the battle ended and they stated themselves the prize money for third place is substantial.
Skateboarding has so many categories and aspects, this tournament is one that deserves the legitimacy they use to market and package it.
Jesus Mike mo talking about nobody skunking Chris Cole while the video plays of himself skunking him!!!!!!!!!!😂😂😂😂😂 ah fuck what even is skateboarding these days it’s all about golf!
Ooommmggggg Bryan arnett and his goon squad 😂😂😂😂 woulda been funny to mention he was banned and snuck in. Does seem kinda mean to holt but Jamie for surely dominated the game
It’s funny to me cause neither Bryan Arnett or bus “goon squad” rushed the stage. It was other ppl and dump data is on some serious bs
Hello dumb data, just wanted to correct you a little on the trick that Tyler did and you called it a pressure kickflip body varial. Its actually pressure heelflip body varial because of the stance and the board rotation. See, if it was kickflip, then Tyler would rotate the same direction as the board did, but Tyler went right and the board went left just like the regular heelflip. Its also the same reason why pressure flip was called a diff variation of inward heel XD. It just rotates the same way as inw heel, same stuff with pressure heel, you just add a body varial on it and thats why it kinda looks like a kickflip.
Im not tryna be cocky or something, just giving some words on it. Ive been doing this trick for 1.5 years and I kinda had my eyes rolled out when I saw him doing it. To this day, I was the only person in my city who even knew about it and giving somebody the last latter on this trick was a fun thing to do lol.
If you care about it, I can send you a vid explanation of the whole difference between pressure heel bv and kick bv by showing you these two but I dont think its worth any time spent tho, ofc if you are really interested in it
To make finals stand out from other games the berrics should make the game longer maybe instead of just doing skate it could be skateboarder or something
I agree, the finals are far too short and anticlimactic. I’m in favor of switching to a 2 out of 3 for every match though. There’s plenty of early games where guys don’t even get a chance at offense. And we would see more skating, they’d have different strategies so different tricks. Loser of the first game gets starting set for the second game. They’ve been lengthening the game edits by showing trick cuts for far too long the last few years. Go back and watch old BATB and you’ll immediately see what we’ve been missing. The rapid fire cuts hype up the games so much better than long cuts (we don’t need a 10 second cut for every easy trick, only major/consequential tricks).
Overall BATB has gotten a lot less enjoyable since last season and that’s big part of it for me. The editing is too slow, bores me to death even with great games. Finals maybe should have “skateboard” but still best 2 outta 3 imo
Wow surprised the shot at Bryan lol why you hating man It was obvious from that angle Nick did not deserve a redo with his foot planet on the ground. And I didn't see Bryan run out until after everyone else so interesting take but definitely sounds personal. 🤦🏽♂️
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@dumb data, the excessive details in this video satisfy my spectrum disorder, thanks man
Amazing how much people nitpick tiny toedrags on defense when the rules clearly state that defense gets leeway on that
The switch tre revert was fine, Idk what people are going on about… and the people complaining that Tyler didn’t start with the basics-maybe Tyler wanted to win? Jamie’s so good at flat ground it feels like that’s the only way to have a chance, is to win the roshambo and go all out, Can you blame him? I don’t.
Still lost. Tyler won't sign your board man. Tyler had the lead and blew it. You're good to stop now.
What bothered me was Tyler blatantly lying about not practicing flatground much before the match. We all know thats BS. Chris Roberts even outed him by accident when him and Mike Mo were talking. “Tyler has been here every morning from 8am-8pm.” It was very clear watching Tyler’s offense that he practiced those same tricks over and over and in that same order. None of those tricks were spontaneous. I’d say the few somewhat simple tricks he threw in were intentional to make it not as obvious
@@EDCsteals that was from an interview before the round one game he played. he clearly practiced for Jamie by the fact he learned the mike mo flip and nollie Merlin twist or whatever you wanna call it, but again, that was from an interview before the first round they simply replayed on finals night.
@@oscarflip8561 yeah but like all of us knew before first rounds even started, He was likely to cross paths with Jamie again. It’s not like he didn’t know Jamie was gonna be his toughest opponent from the get go. And whether that interview was from 6 month ago or 6 days ago I don’t believe for a second that he was not heavily practicing flatground preparing for BATB. You can see how seriously he takes his matches and pretending sketchy makes didn’t happen. Hes always wanted to win this thing BAD and it shows.
@@oscarflip8561 I will say I don’t dislike him to the same degree I did before finals night. Seeing him have a bit of fun during the 3rd place battle gained him a bit of favor at least in my opinion. I kinda expected him to be in a crappy mood after losing to Jamie but he was able to move on from it and still play a good game against Cole
The bird chirps😂😂😂
lol did anyone catch Tyler’s pre game interview, “I haven’t really been practicing flatground lately.” Immediately followed by Chris Roberts outing him “Tyler has been here everyday from 8am-8pm”😂. Based on his the tricks he laid out on offense it was VERY clear he had his attack planned and routinely practiced before the game. I will say I gained a bit more respect for Tyler after this battle and seeing some actual footage of him skating during the cariuma video. Also he was a bit more likeable during this whole event compared to previous showings. Though I’m sure he knew most people weren’t exactly huge fans of his and likely did whatever he could to avoid anymore hate
Dumbdata stompted that sentence real hard too: "...when he stomped the shit outta that double hard". ♥🤩
Chris didn’t care he arrived like 5 min before the event n barely warmed up and left right after the 3rd place game
There was 2 many fuckin ads if u watched the gifted hater live stream tho .. it was better than the berrics live
was waiting for a Joke about them selling the actual concrete from the Berrics when they move hahaha
this is one of the best videos of the channel yet, i laughed my ass off while enjoyng some nuanced and refined datas ❤💙
nice nerding as ever, good to highlight the sportsmanship element, big up the griffinator
Are u going to do SOTY analyzes thid year?
WOW! I had no idea what I was getting into clicking on this one! But Im stoked I did!