Shannon Sharpe slams Shaquille O’Neal for telling Nikola Jokic he didn’t deserve 3rd MVP | Nightcap

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  • Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, and Gilbert Arenas react to Denver Nuggets star Nikola Jokic winning his third NBA MVP Award. The Nightcap crew also reacts to Shaquille O'Neal telling Jokic that Shai Gilgeous-Alexander deserved the award this year.
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  • @jonpoon3896
    @jonpoon3896 13 днів тому +475

    Even Ernie was visibly upset at Shaq for this. He’s allowed to disagree, but to tell Joker to his face crossed the line

    • @MrMuaythai84
      @MrMuaythai84 12 днів тому +45

      shaq a racist

    • @IgorFonseca244
      @IgorFonseca244 11 днів тому +48

      Shaq was completely uneducated with Jokic. Lucky him Jokic is such a class act.

    • @sungip
      @sungip 11 днів тому +21

      ​@MrMuaythai84 he's a hater, not racist. Stop bringing race into everything.

    • @jonpoon3896
      @jonpoon3896 11 днів тому +6

      @@MrMuaythai84 that Perk not Shaq

    • @JmO-ee1bi
      @JmO-ee1bi 11 днів тому +2

      @MrMuaythai I don’t think Shaq’s racist, he’s just got one of the most sensitive egos ever. Shaq should’ve taken his health and the game in general more seriously for longer than he did when he was in his prime in the ‘90s and 2000s, but he didn’t. Like Shannon said, he didn’t put in the work he should’ve, he’d get fat and didn’t train but still wanted to be viewed like Jordan was but he didn’t. He lacked discipline/work ethic and he lost out on 2-3 or more championships due to this.

  • @meech3889
    @meech3889 15 днів тому +2030

    Dwight Howard been telling yall this for years lol. Yall called him soft . Shaq is a certified hater.

    • @madddoggnogood1491
      @madddoggnogood1491 15 днів тому +171

      Yeah he can be at times. Especially when he has no reason to be. Shaq has a bully complex

    • @iamhorcruxer
      @iamhorcruxer 15 днів тому +9

      You mean Dwite?

    • @sueme8170
      @sueme8170 15 днів тому +4

      🤔👀😂😂

    • @Atribecalledsuccess
      @Atribecalledsuccess 15 днів тому +14

      Dwight is on trial for lying

    • @kingstonshacklebolt1431
      @kingstonshacklebolt1431 15 днів тому +24

      Of course he is, you haven’t notice how he makes everything about himself.

  • @michaelgo3740
    @michaelgo3740 13 днів тому +371

    I like Shaq, but it was uncalled for to say to Jokic that his MVP is SGA while congratulating him

    • @KNByam
      @KNByam 12 днів тому +25

      Downright Classless.

    • @BkBk-gy6vr
      @BkBk-gy6vr 11 днів тому +7

      Childish.

    • @momohirai064
      @momohirai064 11 днів тому +8

      Shaq is a hypocrite

    • @troysmith5749
      @troysmith5749 11 днів тому +1

      you're doing the exact same thing shaq did

    • @monster9490
      @monster9490 11 днів тому

      😂😂 Shaq no matter what you say was a high valued player and in my opinion he would know what he’s talking about ,people are acting like he hates the guy or there’s something personal NOPE he’s allowed an opinion no matter how negative and being who he is people should respect that.

  • @CrimsonOmega-
    @CrimsonOmega- 14 днів тому +364

    It’s crazy how much Shaq made Jokic winning MVP about himself, then had Jokic come on Inside the NBA

    • @sedlyholmes3722
      @sedlyholmes3722 10 днів тому +3

      Shaq In a Fool

    • @jhung2479
      @jhung2479 10 днів тому +3

      Shaq is a toddler.

    • @SammySprinklers69
      @SammySprinklers69 9 днів тому +2

      I thought Shaq was legit going to start crying when he started talking about jokic and then had Vietnam flashbacks and kept screaming "I was the most dominant" on loop

    • @willl7780
      @willl7780 5 днів тому

      i like shaq but he is wrong on this one

  • @jDiddyi
    @jDiddyi 15 днів тому +1768

    Big props to Shannon for reminding everyone to mention Kareem and Tim Duncan a lot more. Bigs should probably get their own category.

    • @Leo6933
      @Leo6933 15 днів тому +7

      Where does Jokic rank all time for big men?

    • @redclxxd5974
      @redclxxd5974 15 днів тому +83

      Kareem continues to get more disregarded with time. His resume is arguably the best ever with the only unguardable shot. He should be in the goat convo

    • @markymark2200
      @markymark2200 15 днів тому +13

      I agree man, we should have categories for NBA GOAT convos like we do for NFL. As fans we rank and compare players like Hakeem vs Steph Curry (for example) and we won't blink an eye, yet in my opinion it's "apples to oranges" just as much as ranking Aaron Donald vs Peyton Manning or something

    • @astheskylarksings
      @astheskylarksings 15 днів тому +7

      Duncan is a PF. What’s the point of bringing him up?

    • @markymark2200
      @markymark2200 15 днів тому +11

      @@astheskylarksings You know you are splitting hairs bro come on lol. Also he only said big men he never said only guys who played the 5

  • @greatestever3094
    @greatestever3094 15 днів тому +480

    Shaq- shai has better stats
    *Jokic having arguably better stats, triple double king
    Shaq- shai team is 1st
    *jokic team had the exact same record
    Shaq- I got stumped from mvp
    *jokic arguably got robbed by embid crying
    Shaq just being in his feelings

    • @spenser6353
      @spenser6353 15 днів тому +22

      Shaq probably think he’s better than jokic

    • @gutenbird
      @gutenbird 15 днів тому +31

      and everyone knows it's Luka who got robbed if anyone did. Funny how they complete skip over him and straight to Shai for some reason we all can guess.

    • @greatestever3094
      @greatestever3094 15 днів тому +16

      @@gutenbird luka has a better argument but he played 9 less games and had more free throws with a less % making them, less rebounds, one more turn over average, luka only had more points ahead of Jokic

    • @greatestever3094
      @greatestever3094 15 днів тому +7

      @@gutenbird yeah but their hating on Luka and Jokic is comical, they deserve more press

    • @will-zj5gq
      @will-zj5gq 15 днів тому +7

      same record but lost 3-1 head to head. that MATTERS

  • @thomasmagaha280
    @thomasmagaha280 14 днів тому +249

    Jokic still dominates, he just doesn’t dominate with force like Shaq did. He dominates with finesse

    • @MrMuaythai84
      @MrMuaythai84 12 днів тому +18

      skills win ober power anyday ask hakeem

    • @kevinreynold5590
      @kevinreynold5590 11 днів тому +8

      ​@@MrMuaythai84hakeem is one of basketball yodas. If he says that then it is likely true

    • @Brickwilliams
      @Brickwilliams 11 днів тому +16

      Yes, way more dominant than shaq ever was, look at the stats and his teammates… give jokic prime kobe Bryant and see how dominantly they win rings. Shit give jokic just an all star and he probably wins dominantly

    • @swallman
      @swallman 11 днів тому +10

      He dominates in winning, like Bird Joker makes a team much greater than the sum of the parts. Unselfish play is an infection that everyone on the team catches.

    • @wp8218
      @wp8218 10 днів тому +4

      @@BrickwilliamsJoker with Kobe & Phill Jackson would’ve had an undefeated season lol

  • @CarlBrain493
    @CarlBrain493 13 днів тому +96

    Ocho making it seem Jokic just can shoot when hes got arguably the best post-up game in the league rn is hysterical.

    • @GameTime-yj6qv
      @GameTime-yj6qv 10 днів тому +16

      Ocho doesn't know basketball

    • @tradingmetamorphosis7197
      @tradingmetamorphosis7197 10 днів тому +22

      Jokic is way more complete than Shaq ever was

    • @joebenson528
      @joebenson528 10 днів тому +4

      @@tradingmetamorphosis7197
      Jokic is just a bigger slower Bird with LeBlame's 3pt consistency (more clutch than LeBlame)

    • @ItsAlpa
      @ItsAlpa 10 днів тому +4

      @@GameTime-yj6qv ocho barely even knows football 😂

    • @GameTime-yj6qv
      @GameTime-yj6qv 10 днів тому +1

      @@ItsAlpa 😆

  • @plainsimple244
    @plainsimple244 15 днів тому +688

    It's disrespectful to put someone down when they are getting the MVP award; there used to be a decorum involved when the MVP award was announced and Shaq feeling that way, wait until afterwards but this is that man's time to be respected and celebrated for winning the 2024 MVP of the NBA.

    • @goldteethpoohproductions2707
      @goldteethpoohproductions2707 15 днів тому +30

      Stop WHINNING he feels like SGA should've won it's a OPINION

    • @robmontana7451
      @robmontana7451 15 днів тому +12

      He should not have won

    • @plainsimple244
      @plainsimple244 15 днів тому +6

      @@robmontana7451 I like OKC too but just let's see how a guy performs outside of a skims model and singing girl songs with his teammate coming out of a hotel. HAHAHA

    • @bobhanson1037
      @bobhanson1037 15 днів тому +56

      ​@@goldteethpoohproductions2707 yeah and he can also be a professional and wait till the moment has passed. He gets on players to act professional, he's on LIVE TV STILL CRYING ABOUT AWARDS. His job isn't to complain about losing awards, and if he can't handle that then get a different job. Professionalism extends to rich people on TV too.

    • @user-lt1fx2he5s
      @user-lt1fx2he5s 15 днів тому +9

      @@goldteethpoohproductions2707How? If it wasn’t for Chet the Thunder wouldn’t even have the record and seed that they have this year

  • @geromeriley3410
    @geromeriley3410 15 днів тому +544

    Kareem is the only player with 6 mvp's. He also had 3 college championships and 6 nba championships.

    • @laurenrussell9869
      @laurenrussell9869 15 днів тому +28

      He also fought on the front line in the war of 1812. 😅 It's been a different game since Jordan. Let's just stop. Big 3. MJ, Bron, and Black Mamba

    • @jays
      @jays 15 днів тому +9

      do you realize he won like 3 or 4 mvps when the players voted for them and before the merger? if you think he would've been the only player to ever have that many mvps you're a bit lost

    • @chadalahio8266
      @chadalahio8266 15 днів тому +44

      @@laurenrussell9869Foh. Kareem definitely better than LJ and Kobe.

    • @gutenbird
      @gutenbird 15 днів тому +24

      He also went toe to toe with Bruce Lee. For a moment.

    • @charleybarley914
      @charleybarley914 15 днів тому +13

      and the 3 NCAA wins was because freshman rules way back then. He wasnt able to go for 4 in college. Fortunate to have seen the "sky hook" in person.

  • @ControlledBalance
    @ControlledBalance 13 днів тому +59

    Name ONE player on the Nuggets better than Kobe, Wade, or Lebron that Jokic has played with.

    • @user-kb4gc3jt1k
      @user-kb4gc3jt1k 9 днів тому

      흑인들의 열등감

    • @jimbodavis1944
      @jimbodavis1944 8 днів тому +7

      💯 - He has no All-Stars or All-NBA starters, which puts Jokić on an island to himself in NBA history.

    • @lansvale28
      @lansvale28 5 днів тому +1

      Agreed. They forget about those pesky facts.

    • @bufordteriyakiblott6205
      @bufordteriyakiblott6205 4 дні тому

      💯, Shaq never had his own team like Joker.

    • @tarodfowlkes3934
      @tarodfowlkes3934 4 дні тому +1

      @@jimbodavis1944the Jamal Murray disrespect is uncalled for

  • @mouseinthehouse_
    @mouseinthehouse_ 12 днів тому +35

    Shaq always says Nash stole two MVPs from him, when Shaq didn’t even finish 2nd place in the voting in those years

    • @skyh2394
      @skyh2394 11 днів тому +3

      He did tho, in 2005.

    • @whodat787
      @whodat787 7 днів тому

      😂 he literally did finish second one of those years. Nah, what I hate is when people say LeBron should have won MVP in 2011. LeBron really was not even second in voting that year. And that's FACTS

  • @itsmelomann8210
    @itsmelomann8210 15 днів тому +450

    Ocho just looked like a fan watching the show the whole time, smiling 😂😂😂

    • @josephgreene4174
      @josephgreene4174 15 днів тому +32

      😂 poor thing, but he's soaking up all the knowledge

    • @docKAM
      @docKAM 15 днів тому +28

      He def doesn’t have the basketball knowledge Shannon has. It’s tough for him to stay involved in the conversation lol

    • @quecreations3244
      @quecreations3244 15 днів тому +6

      @@docKAM Twos company. Threes a crowd.

    • @journeydodge5812
      @journeydodge5812 15 днів тому +4

      I love him though.

    • @SuperRobertoClemente
      @SuperRobertoClemente 15 днів тому

      Well, I trust Chuck, and whenever Chuck talks to someone like Shannon he says that football is his favorite sport (along with boxing). So I'm down to hear what football players have to say about basketball. The dynamics of leadership are the same in all team sports anyway. I agree with Shannon on all points here.

  • @barrywuthrich8530
    @barrywuthrich8530 15 днів тому +398

    Wilt Chamberlain was asked about Shaq. He said, "When you ram your shoulder full steam into the defender's chest and the man lying on his back is the one called for the foul, something's wrong." You didn't see that with Wilt, Kareem or Hakeem.

    • @philw9787
      @philw9787 15 днів тому +8

      Now brunson does it, lol Now Shaq at new level. Guys literally grabbing him

    • @borisfrlic
      @borisfrlic 15 днів тому +43

      Naz Reid does it. Literally steamrolls mf’s with his forearm and no call.
      Same as Lebron. If Lebron got called on charges he’d have 20,000 pts lol

    • @ryansnustad9133
      @ryansnustad9133 15 днів тому +16

      Wilt could hit from deep somehow, long before there was a three point line. He wasn't even allowed to dunk at the beginning of his career. If he could, it would be some NBA Live 95, quadruple-pump slam dunk from the top of the key type madness.

    • @SuperRobertoClemente
      @SuperRobertoClemente 15 днів тому +27

      @@philw9787 You gotta be joking. Brunson is 6' 2". Shaq is a FOOT TALLER. Apples and big-ass oranges.

    • @Lordhavemercy96
      @Lordhavemercy96 14 днів тому +8

      @@borisfrlic just say you don’t watch full games bro. Naz Reid has a BAG and there are plenty highlights showcasing such. Same thing with Bron. Please go look up highlights of young Bron in Cleveland. Shit, even 2018 Bron. If you go watch those and come back here and say the same thing, boy shame on you. You think he’s always been 40? 😂

  • @louiehernandez1477
    @louiehernandez1477 13 днів тому +51

    Shaq could've been in the G.O.A.T if he wasn't lazy. When Kareem was 38 years old he played in 79 games, averaged 23ppg, 6rpg. When Shaq was 38 he played 37 games averaged 9ppg, 5rpg. Shaqs last 5-6 were an embarrassment.

    • @glen7137
      @glen7137 10 днів тому +9

      Steve Nash didn't rob Shaq of those 2 MVP's. Shaq robbed himself, Steve just worked harder than him

    • @zerimar26
      @zerimar26 10 днів тому +1

      @@glen7137 No Shaq was a better player. Shaq has 4 rings. How many does Steve Nash have??

    • @tradingmetamorphosis7197
      @tradingmetamorphosis7197 10 днів тому +7

      @@zerimar26 thats not what he said my guy. do you even know what MVP in regular season means?

    • @zerimar26
      @zerimar26 10 днів тому

      @@tradingmetamorphosis7197 Shaq had 3 Finals MVP. Means he should have won at least 2 more MVP's in 2001 and 2002, the years he won those championships. The players that won it (Iverson, Duncan) Shaq beat them in the playoffs or Finals.

    • @tradingmetamorphosis7197
      @tradingmetamorphosis7197 10 днів тому +5

      @@zerimar26 again, learn the difference between regular season MVP and finals MVP. you are embarassing yourself

  • @Duzypriicee
    @Duzypriicee 14 днів тому +57

    Unpopular opinion: Shaq wasn’t a skilled big man, he was just huge. He couldn’t play defense and had no low post moves or footwork. Once he got the ball in the block, he was too big to stop. Tim Duncan actually had skill as a big man.

    • @Nabs1980
      @Nabs1980 14 днів тому +11

      💯💯💯 I don't even think it's unpopular. Shaq's strengths were his size and athleticism. Skill wise, he's not even better than Ewing or Robinson. Both Embiid and Jokic are way more skilled than him.

    • @bangladeshirealtor
      @bangladeshirealtor 10 днів тому +6

      he was extremely skilled . fantastic passer , great jump hook , when he was leaner in orlando u saw it more

    • @pmontyjaaaymes488
      @pmontyjaaaymes488 10 днів тому +2

      ​@@bangladeshirealtorExactly. Dont know what they are talking about. Shaq had footwork

    • @blickpantheraj9029
      @blickpantheraj9029 9 днів тому +2

      For 7’1 300 pounds Shaq had decent footwork. Cmon Dont try n discredit the guy. Not saying u wrong about Duncan tho

    • @Duzypriicee
      @Duzypriicee 9 днів тому +5

      @@bangladeshirealtor Shaq had no footwork and was useless outside of the paint. Shaq will tell you himself that he couldn’t play defense. Hakeem had footwork and made Shaq look silly every time they played each other. Shaq was literally just bigger than everyone and bullied his was to the basket. The man was bigger than 95% of the players he went against. If Shaq was the same size as Tim Duncan he wouldn’t be the same player. When players said it was hard to guard Shaq, they meant cuz of his size. Shaq wasn’t putting anyone in a blender with his low post moves. This newer generation isn’t going to Shaq for his expertise on the low post, they go to Hakeem.

  • @tbeast_74
    @tbeast_74 15 днів тому +330

    I want all you guys to realize that Jokic is the greatest late round pick off all time, 41st overall in the second round. He’s not supposed to be here, or be where he’s at. The dudes soul is made of nothing but humbleness. Please respect the man, that shit was pathetic coming from Shaq. So disrespectful. #3X

    • @raymondqiu8202
      @raymondqiu8202 15 днів тому +9

      Late round and position in draft often doesn't really matter. People develop at different rates. Top picks just means they were better at the time of the draft, doesn't mean a 2nd round pick would necessarily be worse than a 1st round pick of the next year. E.g. pick 40 2015 vs pick 20 2016. As long as they made it to the nba and are given time to develop. Any pick can become good

    • @blackestvex2921
      @blackestvex2921 15 днів тому +12

      So? Why do we do this now? " This is the first player to have 5 assists before age 24 to throw a pass with his left hand while looking right...blah, blah, blah..." Give him his flowers🤦🏿‍♂️🤷🏿

    • @hejbjorn
      @hejbjorn 15 днів тому

      We realized it my G we not that slow

    • @66x38
      @66x38 15 днів тому +4

      Who's gonna stop prime Shaq tho in any era

    • @ixRaul
      @ixRaul 15 днів тому +6

      He was drafted, quit acting like he was a bum off the street 😂

  • @ld880
    @ld880 15 днів тому +162

    Shaq taking that moment to speak his mind is like your best man during your wedding saying you shouldn’t have married your wife. Do better my brother.

    • @jonstfirmin7680
      @jonstfirmin7680 14 днів тому +1

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @ladysunshine9029
      @ladysunshine9029 14 днів тому +3

      Damn, the irony of your comment in reference to Shaq since his now ex wife has said that she was never really in love with him 🙃

    • @varsityxl
      @varsityxl 14 днів тому +2

      This is what Shaq's mad about? He's a big ass baby for that.

    • @jordonwilliams405
      @jordonwilliams405 14 днів тому +1

      Ernie asked him how he felt and plus he wasn’t disrespectful towards Jokic, he just said SGA deserved it in his opinion

    • @travisrice1199
      @travisrice1199 14 днів тому

      @@ladysunshine9029 I think you should look up "irony" again, you don't quite grasp it yet

  • @TheMartin9400
    @TheMartin9400 13 днів тому +23

    Shaq played with Prime Kobe, Prime Penny Hardaway, Prime D-Wade, Prime LeBron & only got 4 rings.

    • @zerimar26
      @zerimar26 10 днів тому +1

      Listen to what you're saying. Shaq has 4 rings. That's pretty good. Ewing, Barkley, Malone, and Reggie Miller have zero rings.

    • @biglala32
      @biglala32 9 днів тому +7

      ​@@zerimar26cause they played against Jordan

    • @juansanchez209
      @juansanchez209 8 днів тому +4

      @@biglala32If Jordan didn’t exist, Barkley would have at least ring. He’s arguably the best player to never win one

    • @anthonytobias5459
      @anthonytobias5459 7 днів тому

      Exactly and Tim Duncan has more

    • @anthonytobias5459
      @anthonytobias5459 7 днів тому

      @@zerimar26 If those guys played with Kobe they would have rings also

  • @kravicapolje4205
    @kravicapolje4205 13 днів тому +19

    Shaq is one dimension player, no drible, no assist, no penalty even

    • @whodat787
      @whodat787 7 днів тому +1

      Shaq was a good passer. You kids don't know what you're talking about

    • @tlsvd5842
      @tlsvd5842 6 днів тому

      Shaq couldn’t shoot, lay up and dunk

    • @kravicapolje4205
      @kravicapolje4205 6 днів тому

      @@whodat787 not kid, watched him, was powerful, was dominant, but not complete.

  • @julius.shambles7
    @julius.shambles7 14 днів тому +118

    Real ones remember Darryl Dawkins, shoutout to Shannon for giving the OGs, especially Kareem & Tim Duncan their props ! 🔥

    • @hasanicoward4425
      @hasanicoward4425 14 днів тому +3

      I remember first seeing Shaq break a rim and they mentioned Darryl Dawkins when I was in 7th or 8th grade I was shocked when my step dad told me they had to take hour's setting up a new rim🤣🤣🤣

    • @georgeblair3894
      @georgeblair3894 12 днів тому +2

      "CHOCOLATE THUNDER!"

    • @user-ky7le9bf2m
      @user-ky7le9bf2m 7 днів тому

      And the other Darryl, Dunkenstein.

  • @tylerterry179
    @tylerterry179 15 днів тому +82

    Shannon is truly fair minded and treats everyone equally. Love the consistency. Truly a real one unc !

  • @malikmoore8062
    @malikmoore8062 13 днів тому +7

    The only thing about Shaq is- the attributes he used mainly for his dominance was natural gifts . He didn't develop one single skill to be a weapon.

  • @georgeclark1378
    @georgeclark1378 14 днів тому +17

    Shannon said all Wilt had was a finger roll. “WRONG “. His most devastating shot was a fall away off the glass from the left side. Unstoppable.

    • @georgethebugeater7950
      @georgethebugeater7950 13 днів тому +1

      He was making a point.

    • @calvinhaskett8712
      @calvinhaskett8712 12 днів тому

      Shannon Sharpe has a big mouth ... He thinks Basketball and Football players know everything and are gods.. Just cause they make big big $$$$$$$$ millions . y'all ain't no better or smarter than the average man. y'all just Rich rich rich rich ... rich.while the average man lives from paycheck to paycheck.. y'all hypocrites ..

  • @gabrielgreer2493
    @gabrielgreer2493 15 днів тому +128

    Shaq shit on what should have been a historicly great moment in Sports and a beautiful achievement for Nikola Jokic and his family. Everyone knows how great Shaq was, what's with the insecurity and Jealousy big fella?

    • @melvynsngltn27
      @melvynsngltn27 14 днів тому +3

      Where did he shit on him at. You guys are emotional

    • @IChanji
      @IChanji 14 днів тому +25

      @@melvynsngltn27telling someone on live TV that they don’t deserve the award they received is petty as hell.
      He is 100% entitled to his opinion. He could even go tweet about it, but to say to Joker “I” don’t think you deserve it. Just shows that even during someone else’s moment it’s all about Shaq, just imagine if someone even hinted at the idea that Shaq didn’t deserve his 1 mvp. Dude would lose his shit

    • @melvynsngltn27
      @melvynsngltn27 14 днів тому

      @@IChanji only to haters like you. Maybe you should go back and listen to the entire thing

    • @melvynsngltn27
      @melvynsngltn27 14 днів тому +1

      @@IChanji Wilt Chamberlain said Shaq didn't deserve to be top 50 & in 10 years maybe good enough to make top 60. Shaq didn't cry like a baby. That's his opinion. Everyone didn't think Shaq deserved MVP. Everyone is crybabies like fanboys

    • @IChanji
      @IChanji 14 днів тому +9

      @@melvynsngltn27 that’s fine Idc who wins mvp. Idc about Shaqs placement in anything. My whole point is it’s petty and weird to in the moment try and take shine away from someone receiving an award. Could’ve been done 100 other ways. He didn’t have to say it to joker as he’s accepting his award

  • @steverobertson8515
    @steverobertson8515 15 днів тому +272

    Kareem has 6 Rings. 1-Bucks, 5-Lakers

    • @Dru2037
      @Dru2037 15 днів тому +5

      Like MJ against lesser competition.

    • @sakpase88
      @sakpase88 15 днів тому +45

      ​@@Dru2037let me guess, they were so terrible you would of been able to play in the nba 😂

    • @jalalstephens7457
      @jalalstephens7457 15 днів тому +35

      ​@@Dru2037 Jordan was in league in 85 when Kareem was finals MVP ..so was he lesser competition lmao

    • @SirButtah
      @SirButtah 15 днів тому +1

      2 finals MVPs, but we don't say he got carried. Conversation is fickle.

    • @thetruthonly2259
      @thetruthonly2259 15 днів тому +34

      I’m so sick of people diminishing what Kareem has accomplished. He has the most impressive TOTAL basketball career. A 79-2 high school record with 3 straight titles and a 71-game winning streak. Then goes to college and wins
      3 straight NCAA titles at UCLA with an 88-2 record and 3 Tournament MOP Awards. Then goes to the NBA and
      wins six titles (in 10 trips) and six MVP awards…..which is the most all-time. Not to mention that the man held the all-time scoring record for 39 years after he retired. When Kareem retired her was the all-time leader in Blocks, 3rd in Rebounds, 19th in steals, and 14th in assists! From high school ball to NBA retirement, NO ONE has a more impressive resume than Kareem.
      But give it a second….someone is going to bring up Jordan going 6-for-6 in The Finals with 6 Finals MVPs to basic make Kareem a scrub.

  • @BklynBryan
    @BklynBryan 13 днів тому +25

    Shaq was Superman, but free throws were his Kryptonite. Can't be considered Dominant or a GOAT if you can't make free throws.

    • @zerimar26
      @zerimar26 10 днів тому

      Shaq was dominant. Ask Orlando fans what happened to the team when Shaq left to go play in LA. Shaq won 3 titles with the Lakers. Never heard from Penny Hardaway, Dennis Scott, or Nick Anderson again once Shaq left.

    • @jordanjohnson9866
      @jordanjohnson9866 9 днів тому

      Nah. /

    • @Shawnjohson1608
      @Shawnjohson1608 9 днів тому

      @@zerimar26that’s because of Kobe not shaq

    • @anthonytobias5459
      @anthonytobias5459 7 днів тому

      @@zerimar26 Penny Hardaway got hurt he should be a all time great PG

  • @robinkjellberg6796
    @robinkjellberg6796 12 днів тому +9

    I’m on team Shannon! Says it how it is. Theres been plenty of centers on Shaqs level if not better. And now Shaqs probly salty over Jokic eventually surpassing him too.

  • @rabornjohnson
    @rabornjohnson 15 днів тому +409

    That moment from Shaq was like watching Kanye jump on stage during Taylor Swift's acceptance speech to say "you didn't deserve this." Classless.

    • @SuperRobertoClemente
      @SuperRobertoClemente 15 днів тому +33

      He was wrong on that. Not enough folks around that guy tell him "no." Ernie should have realized what was going to happen and switched up.

    • @ml.9417
      @ml.9417 15 днів тому +6

      Classless? You’re just soft, stop crying. Shaw went above and beyond to continuously praise and complement him. People can have their own opinions, you know?

    • @user-rk4ey7wh9q
      @user-rk4ey7wh9q 15 днів тому

      ​@@ml.9417💯💯exacty.. he wasn't being fake..he said I want u to hear it from me 1st.

    • @perrystuart8035
      @perrystuart8035 15 днів тому +39

      @@ml.9417 People can have their opinions but you call them soft and stop crying when they do? Use your brain lad.

    • @HomerunsamSOSA
      @HomerunsamSOSA 14 днів тому +1

      @@perrystuart8035him sayin he soft is an opinion lol

  • @SLIDESPOT
    @SLIDESPOT 15 днів тому +425

    Shaq had his window of time, he got lazy and complacent. Then started ring chasing. He was dominant as fuck and even during his peak no one was saying he was the greatest.

    • @shanenolan085
      @shanenolan085 15 днів тому +8

      💯💯💯💯💯

    • @jelenaranisavljevic7635
      @jelenaranisavljevic7635 15 днів тому +17

      Shaq EnvyP of the league

    • @medved4030
      @medved4030 15 днів тому +10

      Shaq was lazy. MVP's were awarded to players that worked their butts off to be the best in the league. Shaq was not one of them, even though he was athletically talented and a monster in the paint. He should be lucky he at least received 1 MVP in his career.

    • @williamcarter9066
      @williamcarter9066 15 днів тому +6

      My brother who could do anything exceptional well !! Tall good looking was very smart but he was very lazy ended up working as a prison guard got colon cancer and died in six months!! That is just one story in the billions of stories of people with a whole a lot of potential but wasted it for various reasons!! Shaq had it all but he had no dog in him to be greater than he could be and now that he’s older it’s hitting him like a ton of bricks 🧱 with (( what could of been)) and the moral of the story live your life in go for it mode !!! Because life or death doesn’t care about our anything !!

    • @spenser6353
      @spenser6353 15 днів тому +6

      @@medved4030he should have more than one

  • @gueswhosthis
    @gueswhosthis 13 днів тому +5

    Imagine telling the best player in the world that he didn't deserve the MVP. Imagine if he told this to James. He never would

  • @BklynBryan
    @BklynBryan 13 днів тому +5

    Kobe won back-to-back without Shaq (2009 & 2010). It was Mamba Mentality. Wasn't no Shaq Diesel mentality. Magic got swept by the Rockets & Hakeem the Dream in the 1995 NBA Finals.

  • @shanenolan085
    @shanenolan085 15 днів тому +459

    Shoutout to Shannon Sharpe for giving Kareem his flowers 💐 🏆

    • @awptsm
      @awptsm 15 днів тому +9

      Shaq told the truth. They move the goal post with the MVP. Shai had the #1 team with the youngest team. Why did Jokic win it again? That's the problem with this winning narrative. It only applies when they want it to apply.

    • @minnuss
      @minnuss 15 днів тому +20

      @@awptsm When you learn to read numbers, you will know why Jokic won it again.
      He leads in the all-important advanced category columns for the 4th year straight.
      It should have been 4th MVP.

    • @jared3003
      @jared3003 15 днів тому +4

      ​@@minnuss😂😂😂 C'mon be nice, we are all friends here 😂😂😂

    • @motownzfinezt
      @motownzfinezt 15 днів тому +4

      That's why we need OGs to remind the youth

    • @awptsm
      @awptsm 15 днів тому +1

      @minnuss ha ha, so once again. Moving of the goal posts like idiotic statements of learning to read numbers. First off, I know more about advanced analytics then you but I actually hooped in a time before Jokic and LeBron got to move the goal posts with ridiculous statements like hockey assist and advanced analytics supported my case. You didn't support your CASE. How about that Jokic and Lebron! Thankfully this new generation of Antman and Shai are setting the record back straight. This will be the last year of murkiness due to the politicking that is typically reserved for actual politics.

  • @Sandalwood11
    @Sandalwood11 15 днів тому +65

    Shanon people don’t realise how good Tim Duncan was because you keep talking about that darn LeBron.

    • @aroperdope
      @aroperdope 15 днів тому +1

      Not true. I don't even watch basketball and I still know that Duncan is a Hall of famer

    • @Dr.Elaine1
      @Dr.Elaine1 14 днів тому +2

      Lol. Name the others who are talking about Duncan. I’ll wait…

  • @Denzel.Johnson
    @Denzel.Johnson 14 днів тому +21

    Shout out to Shannon for giving Timmy D his flowers. He was everything the average person think LeBron is.

    • @HawkingRegime13
      @HawkingRegime13 11 днів тому +1

      Fantastic point, Duncan really should be in that top 5 conversation

  • @kingkillerj123
    @kingkillerj123 14 днів тому +4

    Arenas answers are just emotional thoughts. He never uses any logical thinking. At least Shannon has logical approach to it when saying Kareem is one of the playest brought up as possible GOAT.

  • @russellmoran3858
    @russellmoran3858 14 днів тому +358

    Whose here after shaqs post??

    • @AletaSpeakz
      @AletaSpeakz 14 днів тому +5

      Me!!!😂😂😂

    • @KByrd80
      @KByrd80 14 днів тому +4

      What post? What did he say?

    • @pierrekwizera7180
      @pierrekwizera7180 13 днів тому +25

      And Unc ain’t wrong! His saying the same thing Kobe said Shaq was a talent that never applied himself even! He could’ve easily had 5 mvps if he had mamba mentality

    • @BluntVille
      @BluntVille 13 днів тому +3

      lol ya shay shays upset shaq said wtf dose he get to vote on mvp for hahah

    • @369pendulum
      @369pendulum 13 днів тому +3

      @@pierrekwizera7180He is wrong. Shaq is top 10 all time with 4 rings. Who cares what you think about his work ethic. None of these guys on this screen were as good as Shaq in their sport so why insult Shaq with these theoretical scenarios where he works more? It’s futile.

  • @almonjoseph4382
    @almonjoseph4382 15 днів тому +543

    Shaq said shai stuffs the stats but jokic doesn’t.
    Jokic is top 10 in scoring top 4 in rebounds and top 3 in assist.
    Shai 3rd in scoring 58th in rebounds 19th in assist
    Now tell me who stuffs the stats Shaq 🤣🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @user-gc1wj8tt2p
      @user-gc1wj8tt2p 15 днів тому +67

      Shai ain't even the best scorer, luka has the most 32pt, 35pt, 40pt games it's just that they rooting for shai that's why they're going for 30+ lol

    • @mattpassos5689
      @mattpassos5689 15 днів тому +3

      ​@user-gc1wj8tt2p difference is record though which adds to shai but Jokic still deserves it

    • @bondinho6114
      @bondinho6114 15 днів тому +22

      Luka avg 34/9/9, way better stats than boths

    • @WessideVibez
      @WessideVibez 15 днів тому +8

      @@babipaskaran1620exactly people say dumb stuff bro lol

    • @nologic29
      @nologic29 15 днів тому +10

      @@mattpassos5689 Nuggets and OKC literally have the same record. OKC got the #1 seed from a tiebreaker lol. Only nod I will give SGA is his steals numbers. Defense matters too.

  • @Edgar-wq9qz
    @Edgar-wq9qz 14 днів тому +3

    Don’t forget Ben Wallace.
    There’s a reason Shaq avoids talking about Ben Wallace, undersized strong and athletic center who gave him trouble.

  • @RachelleA73
    @RachelleA73 13 днів тому +4

    Shannon didn’t lie. Truth hurts, suck it up Shaq

  • @wolfszn
    @wolfszn 15 днів тому +378

    yall keep saying “shai had the 1st seed” with the same exact record as denver 😂 stopp itt

    • @Love2Musgrave
      @Love2Musgrave 15 днів тому

      They tryna push agendas but it ain't working

    • @NoahWag2002
      @NoahWag2002 15 днів тому +52

      3-1 against Denver, and hit a game winner

    • @spenser6353
      @spenser6353 15 днів тому +19

      Only one team was number 1. Doesn’t matter about them having same record

    • @spenser6353
      @spenser6353 15 днів тому

      @@NoahWag2002Shaq probably doesn’t think jokic is that good

    • @gutenbird
      @gutenbird 15 днів тому

      it's number 1 seed.

  • @humblejordan23
    @humblejordan23 14 днів тому +248

    I came here after Shaq just responded on Instagram 😂😂😂

  • @dalerobertson138
    @dalerobertson138 12 днів тому +3

    Shannon was close to 100% correct in the beginning, shaq sees jokic and is incredibly jealous, he knows if he would have worked harder and developed a slightly deeper bag and maybe lost 20 ish pounds he’d be in the goat conversation and no doubt best center ever

  • @bradhicks5558
    @bradhicks5558 12 днів тому +4

    Joker also has an insane workout and diet regimen.

  • @racimegacar
    @racimegacar 15 днів тому +28

    Give Kobi or Wade to Jokic and see how much rings would he have. And Shaq can take Jamal and check his ring list

    • @aldrinramos1939
      @aldrinramos1939 13 днів тому +3

      For real! Murray playing like sht most of the time.

    • @straightlead8
      @straightlead8 12 днів тому

      They would probably have about 2 rings, because Kobe would eventually run them off the team like he did to Shaq

    • @fjvet8513
      @fjvet8513 12 днів тому +1

      If you gave Joker Kobi, he would never get the ball.😂

  • @bbott137
    @bbott137 14 днів тому +59

    Unc 100% right, whether you wanna argue one of Nash's MVP should have been his or not, even with 2 MVP's he underachieved. He didn't take it serious, He had the gifts to win 7 MVPs.

  • @daviddunn3894
    @daviddunn3894 13 днів тому +4

    Imagine if Shaq could shoot free throws. But, he was out there looking like Charles swinging a golf club

  • @ThereGoRone
    @ThereGoRone 13 днів тому

    All 🌳 of them be having me cracking up. I appreciate the Nightcap guys keeping it real while having a ball doing it

  • @kenfoke08
    @kenfoke08 15 днів тому +138

    Shannon don't let Chad finish not one sentence 😂😂😂😂. He turning into skip a lil bit talking to chad

    • @hooligan5381
      @hooligan5381 15 днів тому +34

      glad someone said it 😂😂 shannon got mad at skip for what he did and shannon does the same thing to Ocho every week. from telling him he wasn't a celebrity and he was a okay athlete to telling him he black as spades . i like Unc but he be wilding on ocho

    • @itscretino
      @itscretino 15 днів тому +51

      chad is clueless, how the f hes gonna say something

    • @winnigriff8989
      @winnigriff8989 15 днів тому +1

      the cut each other sometimes ocho funny as he is plays too much

    • @amrey3628
      @amrey3628 15 днів тому +21

      Naw, chad just be starting off with points that form a weak argument...not always but it's definitely happens. You did see how quick he named off 4 other C that counteracted chad initial defense of shaq right?

    • @culu37
      @culu37 15 днів тому +17

      It's just when they talk basketball. Ocho really doesn't know ish about b-ball lmao

  • @user-cw7ly8nu5j
    @user-cw7ly8nu5j 15 днів тому +41

    Tim and Kareem are really underrated

    • @Sandalwood11
      @Sandalwood11 15 днів тому +2

      Especially Tim.

    • @williamgodfrey8998
      @williamgodfrey8998 15 днів тому

      Both played with three hofers

    • @FortunateKidd
      @FortunateKidd 15 днів тому +5

      @@williamgodfrey8998both LED three HOFers

    • @aris_mendez
      @aris_mendez 15 днів тому +5

      @@williamgodfrey8998Duncan turned Parker and manu into HOF. Same as Curry with Klay and dray. Something Lebron could NEVER do.
      And they both have dominated LeBron in the finals.

    • @SirButtah
      @SirButtah 15 днів тому

      But they're mentioned all the time. Kareem constantly gets his flowers, and it's always someone saying Duncan was better than Kobe. People have been saying they're underrated so long, it's starting to be overstated.

  • @BridgesOnBikes
    @BridgesOnBikes 12 днів тому +2

    I just noticed that Shay sounds like Dr. Hibert from The Simpsons when he laughs. 😂

  • @dicardohamilton7300
    @dicardohamilton7300 14 днів тому +1

    Loved this. Some smack, some stats, some props, no trash 👍🏽 💯

  • @antwancarter9896
    @antwancarter9896 15 днів тому +58

    Jealousy can be seen in mannerisms and words, even if you have everything. Same reason ppl they don't know. They say don't like them with no valid reason

    • @Love2Musgrave
      @Love2Musgrave 15 днів тому

      Exactly

    • @hooligan5381
      @hooligan5381 15 днів тому +2

      jealousy and envy is within 95% of people. honestly it's the reason they don't have anything. i've never seen a successful hater most poeple that are haters are lazy as hell and want things handed to them.. sucks for them lol

  • @zukusenryu
    @zukusenryu 15 днів тому +172

    Shaq admits to being jealous. He’s mad he’s not in the goat conversation. Watch his podcast with JJ redick. Idc how jealous you are though, that was uncalled for. Stole Jokic moment. POS move

    • @Love2Musgrave
      @Love2Musgrave 15 днів тому +16

      Literally Shaq cares more about the mvp votes than jokic like jokic was just happy to win it

    • @isaiahtaylor9015
      @isaiahtaylor9015 15 днів тому +5

      Jokic didnt deserve it anyways. Cant steal a moment that shouldnt have happened

    • @jjqq4116
      @jjqq4116 15 днів тому +22

      @@isaiahtaylor9015 Nope. Shai and Luka weren't even close. Jokic ran away with it.

    • @ghostx4747
      @ghostx4747 15 днів тому

      ​@isaiahtaylor9015 You gotta have a koala brain to have that opinion. 💀

    • @MakuArein
      @MakuArein 15 днів тому +20

      @@isaiahtaylor9015 Jokic was the clear MVP this year and the only reason Embiid won last year was because he and other black journalists like Perkins cried "racism".

  • @trinjuwan4422
    @trinjuwan4422 14 днів тому

    I ❤ this trio's discussions around sports more than any other podcast😘

  • @tayrowell
    @tayrowell 9 днів тому +3

    Shaq has two career triple doubles. Joker has 130.

  • @chrispbacon__
    @chrispbacon__ 15 днів тому +189

    Ocho always brings the air-head vibes to these convos hahah love it!

    • @TheMissiIe
      @TheMissiIe 15 днів тому +36

      There's always that one friend that just talks, for no reason

    • @cmoney1818
      @cmoney1818 15 днів тому +24

      At least he’s trying to stay engaged and ask questions.. I can respect that.

    • @KevenSylvain
      @KevenSylvain 15 днів тому +1

      ​@cmoney1818 and he let's u kneaux dat he doesn't kneauxs😂😅😂... trillMon 👑

    • @superphi
      @superphi 15 днів тому +8

      At least he isn’t saying stupid shit like Gil

    • @Ruthless13x
      @Ruthless13x 15 днів тому +1

      @@TheMissiIethat’s me 😂

  • @ajeezy2083
    @ajeezy2083 13 днів тому +2

    You best believe when somebody say "No Disrespect" That what's about to follow is disrespect 💯% of the time 👀

  • @Flaxon-Waxon
    @Flaxon-Waxon 13 днів тому +3

    I cant think of anything Gil has ever said that makes sense. These dudes really said Kareem not in the debate. Absolutely insane

  • @mrhollister8520
    @mrhollister8520 15 днів тому +29

    Shannon was on point. Best centers ever - Russell, Kareem, Duncan, Wilt, Hakeem, Moses, Shaq. Shaq referred to Duncan as the big fundamental.

  • @arkie622
    @arkie622 15 днів тому +250

    Shaq does deserve more than what one mvp , so does Kobe

    • @Love2Musgrave
      @Love2Musgrave 15 днів тому +30

      If that was the case they would have won it

    • @DonKey496
      @DonKey496 15 днів тому +45

      Nah. Kobe is overrated af.

    • @williamcarter9066
      @williamcarter9066 15 днів тому +7

      If you don’t work for it then you don’t “” deserve “” shit because you let someone out work you. Shaq didn’t wanted it bad enough to warrant what he thinks he should have!! KD has shown he’s not a leader and he doesn’t want it bad enough and if it weren’t for joining The Warriors he wouldn’t have any championships!!

    • @Michael-tc1dm
      @Michael-tc1dm 15 днів тому +12

      Kobes problem is all he did was score and he wasn't very efficient at it.

    • @Honxho_bands
      @Honxho_bands 15 днів тому +6

      @@Michael-tc1dmbut he been double team nd triple of Kobe pass more he would be more efficient but Kobe doing care he shooting that shit

  • @Drexl_bowie
    @Drexl_bowie 11 днів тому +3

    Y’all best be ready for more of this from Shaq. The older he gets, the worse it will be

  • @austingreen1274
    @austingreen1274 12 днів тому +3

    Delusional to say you’ve never heard Kareem in the GOAT conversation.

  • @sedaw3261
    @sedaw3261 15 днів тому +46

    Can someone tell Shannon that Kareem is a 6-time Champion? He always says Kareem won 5 titles, it's annoying at this point. He won one in Milwaukee in the '70s and five with the Lakers in the '80s. Come on unc!

    • @draday7793
      @draday7793 14 днів тому +8

      Remember bruh he's a football player trying 2 be a nba analyst IJS 🤷🏿!!

    • @earvinm6429
      @earvinm6429 14 днів тому

      @@draday7793yeah maybe one of yall should take his spot. Maybe send them an email it might help

    • @TIGMT0824
      @TIGMT0824 14 днів тому +1

      Exactly, he acts like he can’t google Kareem’s accomplishments

    • @kgstc21
      @kgstc21 14 днів тому

      Dunked on Unc

    • @uziuchiha4771
      @uziuchiha4771 14 днів тому +1

      Who am I mean fr who gives a fuck about this little correction throughout this video

  • @alanjpruneda
    @alanjpruneda 15 днів тому +29

    Finally Duncan gets his credit applicate ya unc

  • @tod3msn
    @tod3msn 13 днів тому

    Shaquille has a humility that he shares with Jokic and instead of jealousy they both should feel peaceful and joyful at being two good men in a world where it could easily have gone other ways. They are an example of humanity at its best.

  • @rickguerrero2282
    @rickguerrero2282 13 днів тому +1

    Props to Mr. Sharp for bringing up names of older players who were unbelievable players……..that young guys never saw play or heard of.

  • @richardc.joseph9496
    @richardc.joseph9496 15 днів тому +238

    I don’t think he’s jealous but, there was no need for that comment about Shaï winning especially to Jokic. Period!!

    • @Love2Musgrave
      @Love2Musgrave 15 днів тому +62

      He sounded pretty jealous even ernie had to step in which is rare for him to do

    • @Texansfan59
      @Texansfan59 15 днів тому +5

      Shai is young he has plenty of time to win a mvp jokic deserved to win it anyways

    • @realspitter2727
      @realspitter2727 15 днів тому +8

      He’s a hater. It’s simple

    • @user-gc1wj8tt2p
      @user-gc1wj8tt2p 15 днів тому +14

      he was jealous tho, he brought up why he didn't win over nash after that lmao

    • @bryansilva6306
      @bryansilva6306 15 днів тому +4

      He’s not over the Nash mvps

  • @LeeskeeGoonies
    @LeeskeeGoonies 15 днів тому +44

    Shannon is a big hypocrite smh... You cried about skip not letting you finish or talk but this mf won't let Chad get a word in smh like dam bro we know it's your podcast but u brought gil and Ocho in for a reason and that's for people to hear them talk also... He really a weirdo for that

    • @abdulmohair6564
      @abdulmohair6564 15 днів тому +10

      Chad do not talk with facts

    • @ghostx4747
      @ghostx4747 15 днів тому +5

      Ocho is the biggest capper & NFL player apologist. It's better he don't talk much in a basketball topic.

    • @GEMINIVice1
      @GEMINIVice1 15 днів тому +5

      Ocho be talking just to run his mouth sometimes tho

    • @vida2515
      @vida2515 15 днів тому +4

      So true, he was getting better, but seems to have reverted, he needs to give Ocho some time to finish and give his Big Nose a rest!😂😂

    • @winnigriff8989
      @winnigriff8989 15 днів тому +4

      ​@@vida2515sometimes ocho is clueless

  • @kerickstevens6610
    @kerickstevens6610 12 днів тому +2

    Thanks for protecting Jokic, Shannon! Shaq is making a joke out of himself

  • @chrisbrown9071
    @chrisbrown9071 14 днів тому +2

    The difference with Bill Russell is that he won those 11 titles when the league was almost a 1/4 of its current size. 11 titles is still amazing but it actually holds less weight than a player/team winning 5 titles nowadays. Or maybe even 4

    • @lirpa2300
      @lirpa2300 9 днів тому +2

      Those titles are still titles. Doesn't matter when they were won. And they still hold their weight and value. It's not Russell's fault that he played in the 50's and 60's. The league did not start in the 80's or 90's.
      The NBA fanbase is the only people to disrespect and disregard the players of the past and older era's in order to prop up the current era and current players. It's ridiculous. No other sports fanbase does this but the NBA, then wonder why the NBA ratings are down....SMH!!!!

  • @santiagolara3795
    @santiagolara3795 14 днів тому +23

    Shaq knows there’s only 1-2 generations left that will remember him for being a dominant hooper and not a goofy actor

  • @UnconventionalReasoning
    @UnconventionalReasoning 15 днів тому +18

    When they say that the GOAT conversation is about MJ, LeBron, and Kobe, but not Kareem, Russell, or Wilt, it's about recency bias and dismissing the quality of the 1960-70s players.

    • @marcusfrm6263
      @marcusfrm6263 15 днів тому +1

      Kobe been in that since before he was retired. Kareem russel and wilt will never be in that shi. Russel is today’s bam adebayo. Kareem had one chip before magic joined the league and wouldn’t have won anything more if magic didn’t come to them. Wilt was a loser throughout his whole career

    • @UnconventionalReasoning
      @UnconventionalReasoning 14 днів тому

      @@marcusfrm6263 Okay, whatever.

    • @earvinm6429
      @earvinm6429 14 днів тому +1

      @@marcusfrm6263 kobe was never in the goat conversation until he died. Stop lying. He was great but there is no way you put him ahead of mj lebron or kareem. So at least he is 4th. Then sou got magic shaq duncan wilt russel and bird there too. Whatever the order is. So he is not in it especially with one mvp. Love kobe but we don't need to force him in that conversation

    • @melvynsngltn27
      @melvynsngltn27 14 днів тому

      ​@@marcusfrm6263Kobe never was

    • @UnconventionalReasoning
      @UnconventionalReasoning 13 днів тому

      @@Adi-bo5do Why? Because you have decreed it so?

  • @Breeshgetabucket
    @Breeshgetabucket 14 днів тому +3

    Why does everyone say “Shaq should have more rings” but never say the same about Kobe. Kobe doesn’t get nearly enough blame for them not winning more. And don’t say Kobe was young because if the roles were reversed and Kobe was in his prime and on the contrary Shaq came into the 1996 season as a rookie they would’ve won at least 7+ rings imo. Remember Shaq came in averaging 23 ppg and 13+ rebounds. But for the mvps I feel like I don’t think he deserved more than 2.

    • @perman07
      @perman07 9 днів тому

      Becaude Kobe was already working his ass of. He couldn't do "more". Maybe he could have done something different, but you can't complain about his effort.
      With Shaq you can complain about his effort.

  • @markomijailovic718
    @markomijailovic718 13 днів тому +1

    Good discussion and funny
    Good work guys 😂

  • @CoffeeBoss602
    @CoffeeBoss602 15 днів тому +30

    Nobody who’s never watched Kareem play bring up Kareem. A lot of people say Jordan is the GOAT TODAY and never saw Jordan play.

    • @Love2Musgrave
      @Love2Musgrave 15 днів тому +4

      Just like whoever you grew up watching should be the ones you bring up

    • @jblaze600
      @jblaze600 15 днів тому +1

      Yea it depends on the era.

    • @hooligan5381
      @hooligan5381 15 днів тому +8

      lets you know most people are followers they just got with what the mases say so they don't get made fun of. imagine not seeing someone in real time and defending them like you were there 😭😭

    • @will-zj5gq
      @will-zj5gq 15 днів тому +4

      you just admitted people just believe whatever they were told to believe instead of thinking for themselves.

  • @davidmcpherson2220
    @davidmcpherson2220 15 днів тому +62

    No one pointed out that Kobe also just has 1 MVP. So why is he always in the GOAT conversation?

    • @Najdorf_
      @Najdorf_ 14 днів тому +33

      He was never in the GOAT conversation, people always mix up 'favorite' and GOAT conversation, just because people like him for his 'mentality' and play style, it doesn't mean he's the GOAT, he wasn't even the best at his position.

    • @ricobaldwin402
      @ricobaldwin402 14 днів тому +5

      Jordan career efg% is like 50 so what’s your point

    • @FYATroll
      @FYATroll 14 днів тому

      I mean outside of Lakers fans he really isn't.

    • @nerdheid7306
      @nerdheid7306 14 днів тому +1

      i love the mamba mentality, but before his death he was NOT in the GOAT conversation, it basically just lebron and MJ, they included kobe more after his death.

    • @vplgery
      @vplgery 13 днів тому +1

      @@Najdorf_ nah, he is in the GOAT conversation.

  • @ultraego1892
    @ultraego1892 14 днів тому +2

    shaq said with his body it was hard to keep going without the rest and shaq said he had kobe. that's why people love to hate kobe and not give kobe his credit for closing every games with shaq.

  • @deankay6680
    @deankay6680 11 днів тому +1

    It feels like Jokic is in the Duncan, Hakeem category, all time greats that are overlooked

  • @GEMINIVice1
    @GEMINIVice1 15 днів тому +14

    Shaq’s ass should have listened to Kobe instead of his ego
    Instead of trying to stay in basketball shape during offseasons and going into a fresh season ready to bust some heads…..he usually would let himself go during offseason time. And ‘play himself into shape’ during the season.
    Kobe bought that up and Shaq rejected it at the time. Most likely would be in goat convo, but didn’t want to put the extra work in on top of the god given ability he had. So it is what it is.

  • @shawnmichaelsbellybuttonri9871
    @shawnmichaelsbellybuttonri9871 15 днів тому +58

    I'm happy that Shaq told Jokic to his face that he thought SGA should've won it after he said it initially, would've been super weak if he switched up. However, I don't like that he mentioned it regardless because it took away from Jokic's moment. The only reason I'm not that pressed about it is because Jokic doesn't really care lol but like imagine if SGA won it or Luka won it and Shaq or Chuck said to them "We thought Jokic should've won". Internet would be in an uproar.

    • @will-zj5gq
      @will-zj5gq 15 днів тому +9

      if shaq stands on what he says, everything else is irrelevant. idc if anyone likes it or not. we are not a free society if you have to lie about how you truly feel because others don’t like it. a rule thumb is to NEVER care more about something than the person who is getting hurt/ violated/ or disrespected. jokic doesn’t care at all so it’s weird for so many people to be upset on jokic behalf

    • @user-lt1fx2he5s
      @user-lt1fx2he5s 15 днів тому +5

      @@will-zj5gqYou don’t sit up there and rain on somebody’s else parade

    • @will-zj5gq
      @will-zj5gq 15 днів тому +5

      @@user-lt1fx2he5s jokic didn’t care so let it go.

    • @Dru2037
      @Dru2037 15 днів тому

      The problem is he shouldn't have said it at all because the MVP voting wasn't even close.

    • @Whitetooth1030
      @Whitetooth1030 15 днів тому

      @@user-lt1fx2he5sit ain’t raining on his parade… that’s Shaq JOB. To talk basketball lol tf

  • @Okisnana-cd3ts
    @Okisnana-cd3ts 9 днів тому

    your title hit the head of the nail brooooo! Jealous shock! lololol

  • @paulfiore7083
    @paulfiore7083 14 днів тому

    I remember when Kareem first came into the league with the Bucks. I was a huge Knicks fan and Kareem absolutely terrified me! Years later I sat next to him alone in an airport! He still looked great!

  • @marksprinkle
    @marksprinkle 15 днів тому +168

    Shaq isn't jealous. He's just a hater.

    • @joybradley118
      @joybradley118 15 днів тому +22

      Same thing

    • @spenser6353
      @spenser6353 15 днів тому +2

      He probably thinks he’s better than jokic

    • @BigDic-qz8su
      @BigDic-qz8su 15 днів тому +3

      ​@@spenser6353he was joker couldn't guard him . Y'all don't realize how big he is . Everyone who guarded him felt it the next day

    • @chadalahio8266
      @chadalahio8266 15 днів тому +4

      😅😂Hatin is showing jealousy.

    • @BigDic-qz8su
      @BigDic-qz8su 15 днів тому +1

      @@chadalahio8266 what's he jealous of

  • @Vincent-um9pi
    @Vincent-um9pi 15 днів тому +71

    Chad is the ultimate yes man

    • @warrenrambo
      @warrenrambo 15 днів тому +1

      😂😂😂😂😂 hahahahahahaj true true true!!!!

    • @laurenrussell9869
      @laurenrussell9869 15 днів тому +7

      I think he's "good cop". He's just a good, positive guy.

    • @Ngfromdacircle227
      @Ngfromdacircle227 15 днів тому +6

      How ? A yes man agree with EVERYTHING someone else says he doesn’t buddy your just a hater

    • @northphillykev2040
      @northphillykev2040 15 днів тому

      no he just dont know basketball

    • @Realdannongreen
      @Realdannongreen 14 днів тому +1

      Exactly he also knows nothing about sports outside of basketball

  • @truestdude
    @truestdude 13 днів тому +1

    If I'm being honest Shaq has acknowledged this about himself on several occasions. So Shannon ain't telling us anything that we don't already know. I don't think Shaq was hating. I think he was being just honest in his opinion. That's just ne tho. It is what it is

  • @TheMartin9400
    @TheMartin9400 13 днів тому +1

    Ocho Cinco says Shaq was a traditional Center yet he never led the league in Rebounds or Blocks & only led the league in scoring twice

  • @freetwolive
    @freetwolive 15 днів тому +33

    Thank you Uncle Shay, for mentioning Tim Duncan, he’s new nickname should be Mr. underrated

  • @PowGetRekt
    @PowGetRekt 14 днів тому +1

    You ain't lying tho. Shaq mindset was not it. He should seriously be in the great goat convo but he underachieved in his career. Also very sensitive and makes himself look worse after being retired.

  • @vlesmeries
    @vlesmeries 12 днів тому +1

    Shaq has a point though. Would we be upset if Shai got it this year? It's one man's opinion and yes, he doesn't recognize he has blinders on and jealous of anyone else claiming his crown of Best Modern Center ever. I think Embiid was on his way to winning MVP again until he got injured.

  • @dawncemberwillis3766
    @dawncemberwillis3766 15 днів тому +5

    Hello Shannon, Ocho, and Gil❤. Thanks for Great Content As Usual. Blessings To You All.

  • @SJM5684
    @SJM5684 15 днів тому +28

    Kareem people sleep on him. He’s arguably the greatest high school and college basketball player ever. I won a championship in Milwaukee and multiple in LA. Multiple mvp’s and I had the most unstoppable move ever. 2nd all-time scoring, how am I not in the discussion lol.

    • @LeWacoKid
      @LeWacoKid 15 днів тому +2

      You?

    • @TemperatureGoneRogue
      @TemperatureGoneRogue 15 днів тому +2

      Dam you won ?

    • @jbmlk
      @jbmlk 15 днів тому +5

      kareem on his burner

    • @SJM5684
      @SJM5684 15 днів тому

      @@LeWacoKid Kareem

    • @SJM5684
      @SJM5684 15 днів тому

      @@TemperatureGoneRogue no Kareem lol

  • @coronazac
    @coronazac 13 днів тому +2

    Shaq is definitely jealous of jokic... it's not jokics fault Shaq decided never to work out and take his craft seriously

  • @lil06fab
    @lil06fab 14 днів тому +1

    Ocho and Gilbert tried so many times to walk Shannon around the Shaq/Goat conversation, and Shannon just kept doubling down lol.

  • @GaBoi234
    @GaBoi234 15 днів тому +31

    Unk act like only his opinion matters like bro you can be wrong

    • @aaronnguyen3809
      @aaronnguyen3809 15 днів тому +5

      He never admits to when he’s wrong he just double down like you’re not perfect everyone is wrong or has a bad take at some point.And let your guest/ co host speak and finish what they have to say. Like damn they can’t even give out their thoughts without him interrupting😂

    • @winnigriff8989
      @winnigriff8989 15 днів тому

      He's mostly right

    • @marcus8030
      @marcus8030 15 днів тому +5

      @@winnigriff8989I don’t think he is he often wrong and strong and deflects a lot. Why isn’t he speaking about SGA and Luka? Both those guys were robbed because MVP should be. Eat regular season player and they were both better than Jokic

    • @winnigriff8989
      @winnigriff8989 15 днів тому +2

      @@marcus8030 fact is that whoever gets the most votes from the selecting committee wins the award

    • @user-mf1ql5fz5v
      @user-mf1ql5fz5v 11 днів тому

      And yours matters? Lol

  • @onlygains
    @onlygains 15 днів тому +19

    always saw comments that Shannon was a closet Kobe hater. Definitely makes sense.

    • @STag-yt5bu
      @STag-yt5bu 15 днів тому +2

      He’s said while on undisputed that he was a big Kobe fan before he came a Lebron fan

    • @Sandalwood11
      @Sandalwood11 15 днів тому +8

      @@STag-yt5buyou mean before he became an undercover klutch plant.

    • @bboywolf
      @bboywolf 15 днів тому

      ​@@STag-yt5bubecause he was like chad, a dumb football player 😂😂

    • @dws0828
      @dws0828 15 днів тому +4

      It’s weird how quiet Unc is on Kobe, somebody else always has to bring him into these discussions

    • @onlygains
      @onlygains 15 днів тому

      @@dws0828 This is factual, legit every-time. I wouldn’t be surprised if Kobe wasn’t in his top 10.

  • @investmenttalk4975
    @investmenttalk4975 8 днів тому +1

    Duncan, olajuwan and jabbar! finally someone said it. The big man superstars doesn't get enough credit since the average basketball fan is 6ft below and love guards over centers

  • @user-fb2kb4wp7s
    @user-fb2kb4wp7s 6 днів тому

    When Shaq came into the league he was asked about his shooting touch around the basket and his attitude was, if I can move everyone out of the way and dunk on them, why do I need to develop a shooting touch? But later on he did develop a decent bank shot - nothing that was a real weapon, but something to add to his game.

  • @user-fq4zz8qu4o
    @user-fq4zz8qu4o 15 днів тому +43

    Gilbert is spot on. There has only been two guys that caused rule changes. Wilt caused the zone to be outlawed because he just stayed in the middle and ruined the fluidity of the game and Shaq forced the zone to come back because one man had no shot

    • @chucky0034
      @chucky0034 15 днів тому +1

      Barkley changed the game to...backing down everyone. 🍒 picker

    • @user-fq4zz8qu4o
      @user-fq4zz8qu4o 15 днів тому +3

      @@chucky0034 He played the biggest 6’4” in history of the game

    • @user-fq4zz8qu4o
      @user-fq4zz8qu4o 15 днів тому +4

      @@chucky0034 Chuck played the biggest 6’4” ever. That’s for sure

    • @user-fq4zz8qu4o
      @user-fq4zz8qu4o 15 днів тому +5

      I know they listed Charles as 6’6”. I met him in 1986 and I am a legit 6’7” and I could have eaten an apple off the top of his head

    • @xavierb9061
      @xavierb9061 15 днів тому +3

      Only 1 mvp, wasnt dominant. Can say with kobe they were dominant, beating iverson jkidd n kenyon marton and reggie

  • @cousinpete2055
    @cousinpete2055 15 днів тому +14

    Honestly shaq on the show to share his opinion weather you like it or not.

    • @brendanekeith4529
      @brendanekeith4529 15 днів тому

      Yeah he is, but he ain't in the show to hate and disrespect players. I'm not saying he should kiss em, but just don't disrespect them

    • @LionHeart477
      @LionHeart477 15 днів тому +1

      ​@@brendanekeith4529especially calling the man to disrespect him to his face. Shaq should be ashamed!!

    • @darlenep1616
      @darlenep1616 15 днів тому

      That’s why they’re taking TNT NBA rights away. They’re no longer as relevant as their once were. Chuck said some very disrespectful comments about Knicks after their won last night. They’re over