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  • @SteveRamsdenYoutube
    @SteveRamsdenYoutube  2 роки тому +17

    Want to get inspired to make your own film? Watch my free webinar here: My Top 10 Tips for making your passion project on a budget 😎www.diymoviemaking.com/pl/2147593183

    • @pederslothzuricho7685
      @pederslothzuricho7685 Рік тому +1

      Interesting, I actually searched for a video like this to confirm a theory i had, What i find interesting, is actually that My life has been centrered around game design and development for over a decade, and this video has made me want to consider the options for a career change without deciding upon anything at the moment. Being so invested into software is fun, but after seeing this element, I am considering if I haven't always been intrigued to do special effects at least at some level, obviously the most fun part is to solve problems and see a result. But at the very least this video has inspired me to play around with it as a hobby at the very least. The funny thing is my background in Media Technology already has given me a large amount of skills and knowledge within the field, but it took this video to really buy into the idea. And that is very interesting, your video did something very unusual, I have no clue what, but it had an impact. I guess you nailed it, well done.

    • @jesus4400
      @jesus4400 Рік тому +1

      Like NASA's space hoax!! 8:13

    • @johnnygoodman2003
      @johnnygoodman2003 Рік тому +1

      Wait... a really big minature is called a bigot-chur?

  • @MrPeaceandLiberty
    @MrPeaceandLiberty 2 роки тому +80

    The high speed frame rate was usually calculated based on the scale of the model. The square root of the denominator was used as the frame rate multiplier. For example, for a 1/16 scale model would be shot at four times the usual 24 fps rate, or 96 fps. A 1/25 scale model would be shot at five times the usual rate, or 120 fps. It would be particularly useful when a model is in water,, or the scene involves pyrotechnics or some other motion.

    • @The-python-guy
      @The-python-guy 4 місяці тому +1

      hey Im getting ready to start shooting a little miniture space battle and I was wondering about this do I just record at a high frame rate and then slow it down to get fast movement

    • @DavidRLentz-b7i
      @DavidRLentz-b7i Місяць тому

      Thanks for this. I am a word nerd and an aspiring novelist. However, I am neither a techie nor a maths whiz!

  • @pgVeritas
    @pgVeritas 2 роки тому +14

    It was the Fireflash in the thumbnail that grabbed my attention. As one of the original audience of the programme, I grew up with it and all of Gerry Anderson’s “Supermarionation” programmes. It was a time when kids TV producers cared about what they were doing. There’s a great documentary out about Thunderbirds and Gerry Anderson’s Slough based 21st Century Productions. Many younger viewers or non-UK might be surprised to learn that the same guys that invented most of the methods for Gerry Anderson were involved in the UK shooting of the special effects in Star Wars. If you get a moment look out for the documentary. If you’re an aspiring film maker or just reminiscing, it’s worth a watch.
    Thank you for explaining some of these techniques in this video.

    • @SteveRamsdenYoutube
      @SteveRamsdenYoutube  2 роки тому +2

      Glad you enjoyed it! And yes, big fan of the Thunderbirds / Gerry Anderson shows since I was young.

  • @leokimvideo
    @leokimvideo 6 місяців тому +2

    When I blew up the helicopter on Matrix there were multiple frame rates used. The chopper was 1/4 scale and had cameras set at 120fps and a main wide camera running at 500fps. The actual action of the crash happened over just over 4 seconds, explosives sequence was around 800m/s. Most of the charges were set at 20m/s delays. And I think what many people forget is a miniature shot at a high frame rate has to have the model moving quite fast to be believable.

  • @danpalooza
    @danpalooza 2 роки тому +25

    There's a formula to get the proper frame rate for whatever scale model you're shooting. Camera frame rate is increased as the inverse square root of the scale fraction. For instance if the scale model is 1/16th scale, take the inverse of the fraction (which is 16) then square root it (which is 4) then multiply that by what frame rate you want it to be perceived as (usually 24fps) and that gives you what frame rate you should shoot at (96fps in this example).
    Once you establish this frame rate you can then calculate how fast your model needs to travel to have the perceived speed desired. Which lets say you want your 1/16th scale model to look like it's going 60mph. Multiply your scale fraction by your desired portrayed speed, then multiply again by your frame rate that we calculated before (96fps) then divide that by your normal frame rate (24fps). So the answer for this example would be 15mph or 22 ft/sec for the scale model to travel. (1/16 x 60mph x 96fps / 24fps = 15mph).

  • @MobileFilmmaking
    @MobileFilmmaking 2 роки тому +33

    As a person who makes sci-fi shorts I really need to put these into play so that I'm not solely relying on digital effects. Another awesome video.

  • @trespire
    @trespire 2 роки тому +23

    The emergency landing sequence of the Fireflash is one of the most epic action sequences I've ever seen.
    The suspention, the music score and dialogue were top notch.

    • @SteveRamsdenYoutube
      @SteveRamsdenYoutube  2 роки тому +6

      It's so good!

    • @GregInTokyo
      @GregInTokyo 2 роки тому +11

      @@SteveRamsdenUA-cam Everyone trying this stuff needs to watch "Trapped In the Sky" at least once and realize that it was done in the mid 60's with absolutely no CG effects. Brilliant miniature work. Meddings was a master.

    • @Dragonblaster1
      @Dragonblaster1 2 роки тому +8

      Gerry Anderson said they spent hours weathering the models and adding tiny legends to them, which all added to the realism. Apparently, the part where Virgil's elevator car skidded out and crashed was an accident, but a happy one, as it looked great when slowed down.

    • @handyman683
      @handyman683 Рік тому +2

      Agreed 👍

  • @TheCrafsMan
    @TheCrafsMan 2 роки тому +17

    Excellent tips! And straight to the point. Top-shelf video! Thank you!

    • @SteveRamsdenYoutube
      @SteveRamsdenYoutube  2 роки тому

      Many thanks 😀

    • @HologramsLab
      @HologramsLab 2 роки тому

      Use 3D and VR...

    • @SyndicatedKobolds
      @SyndicatedKobolds 2 роки тому

      Hey Crafsman! Fancy seeing you here! I just finished watching one of yer vids! 😁 Love yer work dude! Keep on keepin on!

  • @MalibuDollface
    @MalibuDollface 2 роки тому +6

    Perfect timing for my short film I’m starting !

  • @lilstarfishdude
    @lilstarfishdude 2 роки тому +26

    Great stuff! 😃👍
    When painting miniatures, it's 'usually' best to use matte (not glossy) paint, as the glossy highlights have a tendency to make miniatures look like toys.
    Happy Easter!! 🐇

    • @SteveRamsdenYoutube
      @SteveRamsdenYoutube  2 роки тому +3

      That’s a great tip, makes total sense

    • @robertulrich3964
      @robertulrich3964 2 роки тому +6

      thx, i was going to add that but you beat me to it! that and soft lights! starwars was shot flat light super soft. sqrt(scale) * normalFPS. and slow down water waves and crests with added goopy thickeners solutions and use special gases that burns with smaller flames.

  • @peffken8834
    @peffken8834 Рік тому +1

    I would like to add one more suggestion that you can use to help yourself out and get around some problems: Mirrors.
    If you can not film at ground level, or want to change perspective in the same set without rebuilding it. Also you can use it to avoid blur when you don't have the right lenses available, a zoom lens can then give good and interesting results, even without a wide angle lens.
    You can also integrate objects into the set that have a different scale - cleverly prepared, people, or whatever, can be integrated into the miniature scene.

  • @SamsDesigns
    @SamsDesigns 2 роки тому +36

    Incredible stuff Steve! As a miniature film effects enthusiast this is the video I always hoped you’d make

  • @alexabadi7458
    @alexabadi7458 Місяць тому

    I remember watching Thunderbirds when I was a kid, I was fascinated.

  • @RapidActionAnimations
    @RapidActionAnimations 2 роки тому +10

    Great tips man! I recently tried my go at filming a miniature submarine in a container of water with some milk. All these tips are really important and are definitely relevant.

    • @SteveRamsdenYoutube
      @SteveRamsdenYoutube  2 роки тому +3

      Glad to hear, that sounds really fun

    • @RapidActionAnimations
      @RapidActionAnimations 2 роки тому +1

      @@SteveRamsdenUA-camfor sure. Watch the video to see what I mean.

    • @lezbriddon
      @lezbriddon Рік тому +1

      Including the happy accident of car 2 veering off the runway when its (real life) controls/cables went screwy, not scripted, but some bright person said hey leave that in, and use a third car, we just got an extra 3 minutes of free drama!

  • @SampoPaalanen
    @SampoPaalanen Рік тому +1

    I know this is an older vid but something I'd like to add about Depth of Field is to remember that your eyes have it as well and a shot that's 100% in focus might end up still looking like a toy due to this.
    This is especially true for larger objects, I remember seeing pictures where they had replaced 2009 Star Trek movie Enterprise design with the classic 1960s series design, while otherwise very good they had problem where replacement Enterprise was too much in focus for something so big (even the classic design was a size of an aircraft carrier) and looked like a model rather then an actual spaceship.
    This actually one the reasons bigger is better when it comes to miniatures, you can more easily get a realistic depth of field on bigger models. Even so very good tips and some of those I've found apply to digital models as well.

  • @MrJeffinLodi
    @MrJeffinLodi 2 роки тому +1

    Steve, this is fascinating and a very odd coincidence. I grew up watching the Thunderbirds as a kid and now stumbled across it again on a streaming channel. I've been watching it again, but now with a film makers eye on it. Just yesterday I was thinking about the actual size of the models,, and then POOF, I see this video in my UA-cam selections. Amazing. Thanks for the tips.

    • @SteveRamsdenYoutube
      @SteveRamsdenYoutube  2 роки тому +1

      I grew up with Thunderbirds too - they are a lot of fun to rewatch as an adult aren't they! Glad you liked the video

  • @LuchtLeiderNederland
    @LuchtLeiderNederland 2 роки тому +3

    These tips really help me! Sometimes, I am making short documentaries in a videogame called Roblox Plane Crazy with self-built miniatures of locations such as nuclear power plants and cities. I am currently working on a documentary about the Windscale fire, and I am definitely going to implement some of these tips. Thanks!

  • @CreepyDan
    @CreepyDan 2 роки тому +2

    Excellent tips sir! I have only used miniatures once so far, it sure was tedious but it was super rewarding when you see the final scene. These tips will help greatly, thanks again! Cheers!

  • @tomstamford6837
    @tomstamford6837 2 роки тому +1

    Only yesterday I was recommended your channel by the algorithm and instantly became a fan and hooked.
    A big thanks for your efforts to spread the knowledge of film making and digital processing with necessary detail while still maintaining clarity. The mark of a good teacher.
    This seems so accessible to me now, with the tools even people like me can easily (sort of) afford (though the thought of learning PS and AE is giving me chest pains). I am really wanting to get into some small projects now.
    I particularly appreciated the 'Add Yourself to Movies' video - I didn't finish until 8 am watching your tutorials - and it finally gave me the answer to how does one manipulate the background when you're not the film maker with 2 shots of the same scene.

  • @semuthbalap
    @semuthbalap 2 роки тому

    Thanks for tutorials. Its so usefull for me.

  • @carstenkoloc5226
    @carstenkoloc5226 2 роки тому

    Very good Tips.Thank you.

  • @PCcardboard1354
    @PCcardboard1354 2 роки тому +1

    Its is so good to see someone keeping this alive,

  • @shankard8007
    @shankard8007 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for those tips steve

  • @MarkMcCluney
    @MarkMcCluney 2 роки тому +4

    This was fascinating and very enjoyable. Can I suggest also that the way we see is sometimes affected by what we are hearing? Sound effects and music often contribute to our overall perception and so deep, growly machine sounds can make miniatures seem more convincing. This is used to great effect in Thunderbirds and other Gerry Anderson productions. Well, it's just my thought on the matter. Thanks for this and I'm looking forward to seeing more of your vids!

    • @SteveRamsdenYoutube
      @SteveRamsdenYoutube  2 роки тому +1

      Great point. The sound design always adds so much to the scale!

  • @dannyr2976
    @dannyr2976 2 роки тому +2

    Impressive results on a shoestring budget! I do recall James Cameron utilising compositing actors against model settings for 'Aliens', impressing 20th Century Fox, who thought this was an expensive set. Great results if you know what your doing.

    • @SteveRamsdenYoutube
      @SteveRamsdenYoutube  2 роки тому +3

      Absolutely! I believe the exploding tanker truck in The Terminator was also a miniature, albeit quite a large one

  • @Miscast
    @Miscast 2 роки тому

    Thank you! Great tips

  • @turboemerald9228
    @turboemerald9228 Рік тому

    filming with miniatures is one of my favorite ways of filmmaking, its simple yet effective

  • @1966tvbatman
    @1966tvbatman 2 роки тому +1

    Bravo! Just finished a sci fi movie with miniatures. Love them. Thanks for the tips.

  • @SserunnyaEarnest
    @SserunnyaEarnest 2 роки тому

    Incredible stuff Steve. Making film with miniature film effects this gives realistic in the movie.

  • @AllanGildea
    @AllanGildea 2 роки тому +3

    Top class, Steve. Thanks for this excellent tutorial.

  • @LilyUnsub
    @LilyUnsub Рік тому

    This is so brilliant, come back to this regularly as a checklist for stopmo so thank you!! 💗

  • @allissondiego1989
    @allissondiego1989 2 роки тому

    I feel like I should be paying to see this. High quality content straight to the point.

  • @Theorex
    @Theorex 2 роки тому

    This is the exact type of video I have been hoping someone would make for years, this is fantastic, thank you!

  • @AbandonedMiniatures
    @AbandonedMiniatures 2 роки тому

    Great tips communicated clearly. Thanks for what you do!

  • @micahheemstra9049
    @micahheemstra9049 2 роки тому +1

    Love this! I've been wanting to experiment with filming miniatures for a while. These are the perfect tips for getting started!

  • @AntonyCannon
    @AntonyCannon 2 роки тому +2

    Sweet!
    Love the tips.

  • @AnimationGoneWrong
    @AnimationGoneWrong 2 роки тому +1

    Some excellent tips, Steve! I've seen some of these, but never as complete a compilation as what you put together here. Thank you!

  • @trainlover16
    @trainlover16 2 роки тому +2

    This video’s an absolute godsend Steve. Thanks so much, I’m really going to need this knowledge in all my planned film and tv productions.

  • @troybarnes3293
    @troybarnes3293 2 роки тому

    Big support for the channel and keep on making awesome content and guides and giveaways in the future as well. Worked for me

  • @CoconutPete
    @CoconutPete 2 роки тому +1

    this is one course I have on my list to get someday...

  • @greeneyedwarlock882
    @greeneyedwarlock882 2 роки тому

    THAT FAAAAAANTASTIC FUTURISTIC JET!!!! FROM "The Thunderbirds"......absolutely GORGEOUS!!!!

  • @Empress_Theresa
    @Empress_Theresa Рік тому

    Thunderbirds was great! 😊 I'm glad nobody ever tried to do a reboot or a sequel.

  • @Mr-S.C.
    @Mr-S.C. 2 роки тому

    Fantastic video!! You obviously know exactly what you are talking about and have the experience to prove it. Something I've always wanted to try is miniature film making and now I'm just a bit more confident after watching this.

  • @andrewglazebrook1585
    @andrewglazebrook1585 2 роки тому +1

    Always good stuff ! Cheers !!

  • @WatchMysh
    @WatchMysh 2 роки тому

    Thanks! That's incredibly helpful! 🤗

  • @billg3356
    @billg3356 2 роки тому

    This was excellent! Thank you for the tutorial

  • @DevotedSentry
    @DevotedSentry 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much! As a stopmotion animator, this was extremely helpful!

  • @davemardon6756
    @davemardon6756 2 роки тому +2

    "Weathering" is what turns a shiney model from a model into...."Realistic".
    Slightly off topic: For the life of me actual model making for films/tv is a art form, Star Wars is the spark that grabed me and never let go. Looking back at Models, it always amazed me at the "scale" (pun intended) of some of the "minatures" used throughout history...Look at the filming models that were created for movies such as OUTLAND and CE3K, not to mention Star Wars but even Space 1999..Hell, look at the size of the filming miniature from TITANIC.."Holy Crap" that thing is ginormous.

  • @jasonbecker4974
    @jasonbecker4974 Рік тому

    This looks so fun!

  • @lindybeige
    @lindybeige 2 роки тому +1

    Thunderbirds still has the best explosions on telly.

  • @belpop16
    @belpop16 Рік тому

    Very good tips. They helped me a lot in making my own short sci-fi film

  • @DaJoPaHo
    @DaJoPaHo 2 роки тому

    Thunderbirds Are Go! Love the content. Thanks for all the great videos.

  • @tansacs
    @tansacs 2 роки тому

    すごいです!参考になりました。日本から
    It's amazing! It was helpful. From Japan

  • @EnglishLaw
    @EnglishLaw 2 роки тому

    Outstanding and so exciting!

  • @BaziaStudio
    @BaziaStudio 6 місяців тому

    Amazing! Best of the Best! ❤

  • @ashequeawal
    @ashequeawal 2 роки тому

    Awesome! Very Helpful video. I recommend it to every curious person about filmmaking.

  • @katestransky2031
    @katestransky2031 2 роки тому

    This is brilliant. I'm sharing this with my model making students. Thank you!

  • @teacherofteachers1239
    @teacherofteachers1239 2 роки тому +1

    This is the perfect presentation on this subject. Funny you should mention both Thunderbirds and Star Wars, as I think the work on Thunderbirds miniatures influenced decisions for Star Wars.

    • @SteveRamsdenYoutube
      @SteveRamsdenYoutube  2 роки тому +1

      Definitely, and Derek Meddings from Thunderbirds even ended up working on some of the Bonds... where (in Moonraker) he basically got to emulate Star Wars!

  • @PWN_Nation
    @PWN_Nation 2 роки тому

    Absolutely incredible video, and definitely earned my sub. Can't wait for what's next!

  • @BlenderB-123
    @BlenderB-123 Рік тому

    Loving the 60's thunderbirds

  • @gwynnewilliams3408
    @gwynnewilliams3408 2 роки тому

    A very informative, concise and interesting film. Thanks Steve!

  • @SeriousJoe
    @SeriousJoe 2 роки тому +1

    Recognised the fireflash immediately! ☺️

    • @SteveRamsdenYoutube
      @SteveRamsdenYoutube  2 роки тому

      It's such a great design, I've always liked it

    • @SeriousJoe
      @SeriousJoe 2 роки тому

      @@SteveRamsdenUA-cam It is! I always loved Gerry Anderson!

  • @metafuel
    @metafuel 2 роки тому

    This was excellent and full of really good information.
    Thanks for your time.

  • @TheUniverseEZvideo
    @TheUniverseEZvideo Рік тому +1

    Tips and tricks. My respects!

  • @veronicathecow
    @veronicathecow 2 роки тому

    Fireflash is what got me to click, good video, thank you.

  • @josecolon2185
    @josecolon2185 2 роки тому +2

    With high definition 3d printing available to consumers, it boggles my mind as to why its not being utilized as often as I should in the movie industry. Its as if they've forgotten that option exists, or just the massive insistence of not breaking from the norm

  • @skyhigh776
    @skyhigh776 2 роки тому

    Wow, what a clever fella you are. Brilliant video.

  • @xjet
    @xjet 2 роки тому +3

    A lot of my own videos involve making models look real. I recently fooled over a million people with a video of an RC helicopter which even appeared on a news bulletin as footage from the war in Ukraine (LOL). I use all the points you mention to try and make the small look big and realistic.

  • @colescanlan
    @colescanlan Рік тому

    man your channel inspires me to make my own films

  • @imagehouse6949
    @imagehouse6949 2 роки тому

    So much knowledge, thanks for the tips & tricks.

  • @heckensteiner4713
    @heckensteiner4713 2 роки тому

    Miniatures kick ass. Great tips!

  • @pauljakeman
    @pauljakeman 2 роки тому +5

    Really awesome video, back before CGI took over (too much) miniatures were the only thing that could be used. And imo they usually stand the test of time and look better for it! Thanks for the tips.

  • @Tyrell_Corp2019
    @Tyrell_Corp2019 2 роки тому +2

    I found a model with the number 1/1. I just couldn't carry it.

  • @jmalmsten
    @jmalmsten 2 роки тому

    Oh. And for waterfalls in the distance. Switching the water to salt works a treat. Old ILM/Weta trick. :)

  • @SashiPritam
    @SashiPritam 2 роки тому

    Very informative.

  • @mcemtpockets1775
    @mcemtpockets1775 7 місяців тому

    5:56 i learned.... a lot. But this is important to me! Thank yu!

  • @Matthewsaaan
    @Matthewsaaan 2 роки тому

    Brilliant video! I need to make the time to do more miniature filming!

  • @ahmadomedvisuals8205
    @ahmadomedvisuals8205 2 роки тому

    Great work steve, could you please talk about "missiles coming down from the sky and hits the ground"

  • @SolidBlueBlocks
    @SolidBlueBlocks 2 роки тому +1

    woah, amazing! Instanty subbed!

  • @markcrummett7831
    @markcrummett7831 2 роки тому +1

    Finally, someone who gets POV/camera position! Excellent!

  • @AsterixTheScot
    @AsterixTheScot 7 місяців тому

    Thank you! Great tips. Thank you for sharing.

  • @marvelfoxmorty5057
    @marvelfoxmorty5057 2 роки тому

    I really like this channel, its help me understand new things for beginners filmmaker like me... Thanks Steve

  • @Frankyshanks7718
    @Frankyshanks7718 11 місяців тому

    hey thanks for this video it realy did help because i am makeing a diy sci fi ship out of a soap container and was using that for my film and this video helped alot. thanks.

  • @GDMdesign
    @GDMdesign 2 роки тому

    Nice - takes me back to filming super 8 as a kid!

  • @davidtremont6663
    @davidtremont6663 2 роки тому

    Great video, really loved seeing a couple of projects I’ve worked on in there.

    • @SteveRamsdenYoutube
      @SteveRamsdenYoutube  2 роки тому

      Many thanks, and how amazing - which ones were you on?

    • @davidtremont6663
      @davidtremont6663 2 роки тому

      @@SteveRamsdenUA-cam I worked on Middle Earth stuff and the Thunderbirds anniversary episodes.

  • @Mr_Guy_Fella
    @Mr_Guy_Fella 2 роки тому +1

    love your content dude

  • @allstargraphics1552
    @allstargraphics1552 2 роки тому

    Absolutely Amazing tricks. Great video.

  • @schoeferfilm
    @schoeferfilm 2 роки тому

    Very good tips Steve 👏

  • @tolyambarc6759
    @tolyambarc6759 2 роки тому

    It was such a pleasure, to see Scandinava's shot. I am currently working there on a new movie about planes and aviation. Hope you will like it, most of the shots will be only composited, but no cg, including dogfights.

  • @warriorclassmedia
    @warriorclassmedia 2 роки тому

    This was freaking excellent

  • @EasyWay-M.I.S.
    @EasyWay-M.I.S. 2 роки тому

    very useful tips.. thank you for sharing

  • @toffepeer2163
    @toffepeer2163 2 роки тому

    Excellent tips

  • @VCAY_38_EDITS
    @VCAY_38_EDITS 2 роки тому

    This is very informative and helpful 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @SoyGidz
    @SoyGidz 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the tips dude 👍👏

  • @DeickFranfan
    @DeickFranfan Рік тому

    Magnific my friend Steve you models Scala miniature 🤩👍💎💎💎💎💎💎💎💎💎💎

  • @HenryLoenwind
    @HenryLoenwind 2 роки тому

    So, you used a 1:1 scale model to demonstrate this...clever. ;)

  • @GatchamanG4
    @GatchamanG4 2 роки тому

    Thunderbirds are go!!

  • @juleswombat5309
    @juleswombat5309 2 роки тому

    Fireflash was an awesome aircraft. I believe Brains designed it. However Virgil had trouble keeping his elevator under the wings, when its undercarriage was compromised. The smouldering and smoking tyres was awesome to watch as a then 6 year old in 1967.

  • @HappyDude1
    @HappyDude1 2 роки тому

    Amazing tips i want to make some movies in the future with my rc vehicles. Because they can move i can do some cool action scenes. I allready made some models wich is on my channel

  • @motsregor3723
    @motsregor3723 2 роки тому

    WOW! THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!!!!!