Top 10 Advanced Two-Player Games

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  • @Zarfin
    @Zarfin 3 роки тому +258

    for me the invisible middle list would be the most interesting one

  • @montagen8084
    @montagen8084 3 роки тому +60

    Absolutely do NOT STOP being "mean" to each other. You are not "mean", you are teasing. It's the banter and back-and-forth that makes these videos so entertaining.

    • @mydemon
      @mydemon 2 роки тому +2

      Sometimes Zee 'teasing' Mike is bordering on elderly abuse tho lol

  • @rhino2218
    @rhino2218 3 роки тому +148

    Mike is such a fantastic addition. Love the chemistry you guys have

    • @dansimmons2095
      @dansimmons2095 2 роки тому

      I would dare to say he takes the show to a new level. If only they had a curmudgeon from Huddersfield to give a counterpoint to some of these picks.

    • @SimplicitySingularity
      @SimplicitySingularity Рік тому +1

      @@dansimmons2095 Now, as of 10/2/2023 he seems to be gone.

    • @dansimmons2095
      @dansimmons2095 Рік тому

      @@SimplicitySingularity WHAT??????

  • @GGdeTOURS37
    @GGdeTOURS37 3 роки тому +45

    For me it's star wars REBELLION the best ever for 2 players!

  • @luckbfern
    @luckbfern 3 роки тому +9

    I’m loving all the banter! So much fun.

  • @ogreman2229
    @ogreman2229 3 роки тому +6

    1:05:20 Zee mentions the duel decks which are no longer sold. For a new player intimidated by the deck building I highly suggest grabbing 2 of the pre made decks from Card Kingdom. They are inexpensive and in my experience extremely balanced with each other.

    • @JonReid01
      @JonReid01 Рік тому

      Pioneer/Standard Challenger decks are also decent, but they seemed to have stopped that as of 2022 as well

  • @speedandstyletony
    @speedandstyletony 3 роки тому +16

    " I know two things, this game is heavier than you think it is and these pretzels are of the devil!" - Zee

  • @crystalpawlowski4260
    @crystalpawlowski4260 3 роки тому +42

    A mid-weight two-player game list would be super useful. Please do!

    • @MarcTelesha
      @MarcTelesha 2 роки тому +1

      I have a friend that makes all down time to be double or tripled just by his addition to any game. I need a medium weight 2 player game.

  • @guillermoz4914
    @guillermoz4914 3 роки тому +24

    List like these really need honorable mentions in no specific order. I’m always looking for 2-4 player games that play well with 2 !
    🙌🏽😊

    • @jr637-1
      @jr637-1 Рік тому

      Have you tried Azul at 2? I almost prefer it at 2, and BGG seems to agree.

  • @codykunka5558
    @codykunka5558 3 роки тому +41

    Thanks for the video! Your interactions are fun :). Just a feedback: Some of us only play at 2 players so would still be interested in games that play great at 2 even if they play the same or slightly better at higher counts. So excluding those from a list like this can make those types of games hard to find.

    • @jdotco23
      @jdotco23 3 роки тому +6

      I feel the opposite. In fact, going off your idea, I'd rather them make a whole list of games that can play more than two players, but plays best at two players.

    • @BeyondTheLineProductions
      @BeyondTheLineProductions 3 роки тому

      I agree

  • @nathalievazquez4708
    @nathalievazquez4708 Рік тому +1

    I've seen this video a few times now. I wait to forget and relisten to it in the background. The pretzel bits are the best part. 😂

  • @jdtyler7
    @jdtyler7 3 роки тому +38

    You guys are not too mean at all. We can tell it's all in jest. It's great chemistry!

    • @MrPigpom
      @MrPigpom 2 роки тому

      Get meaner! Back to the Sam heeley level! Lol!

  • @FFKAK
    @FFKAK 3 роки тому +44

    I’m with you Zee, Everdell is great at 2.

    • @runwin3
      @runwin3 3 роки тому

      Yep, I agree with Zee. The combination of having a few long-term goals to try to achieve, along with maximizing resources and utilizing the card draw and “conversion to resource” spaces to filter through the deck for what you need makes this adorable game one of our favorites at 2 players. Not to mention the immersion, theme, and flavor. You feel like you are a part of your little city and can be proud of it.

  • @kcw1879
    @kcw1879 3 роки тому +3

    MAGE WARS! My all time favorite game, for 2 players yet. I just love it, never get tired of it, and it just disappeared suddenly.

  • @ezunino1711
    @ezunino1711 3 роки тому +15

    Aeons End is Amazing with two!

  • @dnaseb9214
    @dnaseb9214 Рік тому +2

    Favorite style of videos.

  • @Atlas-FM8
    @Atlas-FM8 3 роки тому +41

    Tom should do a top 10 video for his invisible two player games.

    • @StabGR
      @StabGR 3 роки тому +1

      He might have already done it!

    • @thedicetower
      @thedicetower  3 роки тому +37

      Or is going to!

    • @florianstock376
      @florianstock376 3 роки тому +1

      You just cant see it - it is as invisible as the games.

    • @mattvucu6706
      @mattvucu6706 3 роки тому

      Kick out mike and put in Roy…. And then have mike and Roy both do a really actually truly advanced game list

    • @JJ_TheGreat
      @JJ_TheGreat 3 роки тому

      He just did it yesterday! :-)

  • @nshaw1299
    @nshaw1299 3 роки тому +15

    guys, at the 6:57 mark, Mike's list is showing prematurely...

    • @JustJoeBlogs
      @JustJoeBlogs 3 роки тому +4

      Yeah looks like a classic case of premature dissemination.

    • @boardgameknight2791
      @boardgameknight2791 3 роки тому +1

      Ha! Love the excitement of live streaming! Overall though, a really smooth performance from the DT team!

    • @r.l.jeffries1091
      @r.l.jeffries1091 3 роки тому +3

      Roy is fired.

    • @nshaw1299
      @nshaw1299 3 роки тому +3

      I like it, it's like an homage to 'fight club'

  • @Noonycurt
    @Noonycurt 3 роки тому +61

    Did Zee mutter "Spoilers!" when Mike said that everyone knows that Abraham Lincoln was assassinated?! *lol*

    • @ColZep
      @ColZep 3 роки тому

      Where? Lol

    • @go_golden
      @go_golden 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@@ColZep 2 years late, but for posterity's sake: 36:30

  • @slowmodeproductions
    @slowmodeproductions 3 роки тому +91

    I'm very surprised War of the Ring wasn't on anyone's list. That game is absolutely incredible. But to each their own! I'd also have Sekigahara, Hands in the Sea and Polis on my list.

    • @drstclair
      @drstclair 3 роки тому +5

      I know it's been replaced by Battle of the Five Armies for Tom. Zee doesn't like long games. And make doesn't tend to like wargames.

    • @msa4998
      @msa4998 3 роки тому

      You are 1000% correct. I am not surprised that not very many heavier war games showed up … was glad to see Tom put TS in, however. I almost wish they would have just excluded heavy war games as part of the criterion.

    • @corssobv
      @corssobv 3 роки тому +1

      Sam is not there thats why :D

    • @Skarpo89
      @Skarpo89 3 роки тому

      I thought the same thing! Such an awesome game

    • @WanderingKumquat
      @WanderingKumquat 3 роки тому +1

      Sounds like a Roy game

  • @MerrillWhiteKalEl
    @MerrillWhiteKalEl 3 роки тому +35

    Roy is correct - Star Wars Rebellion should be here.

    • @hucz
      @hucz 3 роки тому

      The theme is too divisive, I personally am not a Star Wars fan so I will never play it.

    • @mylor1066
      @mylor1066 3 роки тому +2

      If Sam was around it would be on the list. Such a great game.

    • @JB-ym4up
      @JB-ym4up 3 роки тому +1

      War of the ring felt quite similar to rebellion. One of them should have been on a list.

  • @misomiso8228
    @misomiso8228 3 роки тому +12

    5:30 the app is actually fantastic for Twilight Struggle. It's one of the best implemented board games i've seen online.
    Just play some matchmade games and you start to get used to it. it's actually better than playing in real life as it takes away all the set up time, and the app is better at tracking things.

    • @msa4998
      @msa4998 3 роки тому

      Correct!

    • @ilqrd.6608
      @ilqrd.6608 3 роки тому

      if only it wouldn’t take the AI forever to „think“ about their turn

    • @misomiso8228
      @misomiso8228 3 роки тому

      @@ilqrd.6608 Honestly it's much better just playing against people. It's quicker and the games will be more interesting.

    • @Daliman13
      @Daliman13 3 роки тому

      @@misomiso8228 It is certainly not quicker, but once you know what you're doing the AI is no competition at all. I would rate the AI as ~800 in the TS ELO system

  • @susannemke
    @susannemke 3 роки тому +41

    Race for the galaxy should definitely be on this list

    • @revimfadli4666
      @revimfadli4666 3 роки тому

      But it's not 2-player only?
      Though the 2p variant feels more strategic with its higher degree of control

  • @mikemudrow
    @mikemudrow 3 роки тому +2

    Unforgiven is excellent. Great pick, Mike!
    This was one of the most hilarious lists you guys have done in a while, and I loved it. Thanks!

  • @evandercaldwell9993
    @evandercaldwell9993 2 роки тому +1

    This is one of the most interesting Top 10's ever, with a few interesting and exciting games I've never heard of (I'm quite new to boardgaming) Thank You for sharing!! 🙏

  • @kyleskayman5309
    @kyleskayman5309 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you for mentioning Wildlands! I love this game and have gone deep into every expansion, but nobody knows about it (or so it seems)!

  • @emeralddream5965
    @emeralddream5965 3 роки тому +51

    As a Tolkien fan I would add:
    - War of the Ring
    - Hunt for the Ring
    I want to mention Star Wars: Rebellion as well. Although not being into SW I enjoyed that solid and engaging game.

  • @codym6376
    @codym6376 3 роки тому +21

    Waiting for the “Top Ten Intermediate 2 Player Games”

  • @Crs9072
    @Crs9072 3 роки тому +61

    You should really change the background graphics for the slides. The Dice Tower background is so busy looking that the game images are hard to differentiate from background image.

    • @tawnyarasmussen1965
      @tawnyarasmussen1965 3 роки тому +2

      Agree!

    • @JonReid01
      @JonReid01 3 роки тому

      Eh to me "busy" is their design language and I'm happier since I just accepted it 🤣

    • @rpiazza72
      @rpiazza72 3 роки тому +2

      @@JonReid01 join the resistance brother!!

    • @arekkrolak6320
      @arekkrolak6320 3 роки тому +2

      if you can improve something easily then why not? :)

    • @mydemon
      @mydemon 3 роки тому

      You're right it's nuts

  • @conillet
    @conillet 3 роки тому +3

    Mike is spot on about "Blue Moon". This game is not only excellent, but if you want to play all those different factions well it definitely becomes an "advanced" challenge.

  • @Jesus.the.Christ
    @Jesus.the.Christ 3 роки тому +5

    Quantum Mechanics is not a groups of people that work with subatomic particles. Mechanic is a perfectly fine word to describe what you're calling a mechanism. Both work.

  • @wroot_lt
    @wroot_lt 3 роки тому +3

    I love how you sneaked in food into videos :) Also, Gummy Bears from late 18 hundreds cracked me up :)

  • @Picosaurus
    @Picosaurus 3 роки тому +2

    0:31, the eyebrows of judgment from Mike.

  • @chrismichael9556
    @chrismichael9556 3 роки тому +6

    Great video. I watch tons of board game content and you guys somehow make talking about boardgames actually entertaining. This is not achieved so easily so kudos. You guys shoulda been school teachers ! I mean that as a compliment. 😀

    • @thedicetower
      @thedicetower  3 роки тому +20

      All three of us WERE school teachers.

  • @athanasiospetsas9367
    @athanasiospetsas9367 3 роки тому +6

    Battlelore second edition is my favorite advanced 2-player game! Second comes Star Wars Rebellion! But I like all those picks you mention :)

  • @kellinwinslow1988
    @kellinwinslow1988 3 роки тому +4

    Good show as always guys. One of my favorite advanced two player games is still Star Trek Frontiers. I think it flows better and plays a bit better than Mage Knight and I even like it more than a real two player game like Star Trek Fleet Captains. Plus it feels like older Trek,ie anything that isn't made by Kurtzman and Secret Hideout,and that's a good thing. You can play it with up to 5 but 2 plays best I've found. Otherwise Arkham Horror LCG can be pretty interesting and games like Sword And Sorcery or even Gloomhaven work well as two player games also. Your milage may vary. Lol.

  • @DarthEd77
    @DarthEd77 3 роки тому +38

    Star Wars: Rebellion is the obvious missing one.

    • @JB-ym4up
      @JB-ym4up 3 роки тому +1

      Rebellion or war of the ring, one of them should have made the list.

    • @altecapollyon
      @altecapollyon 3 роки тому

      I was shocked that Tom didn’t mention it.

    • @DarthEd77
      @DarthEd77 3 роки тому

      @@altecapollyon I'm not really that surprised. Sam was really SW: Rebellion's champion at the Dice Tower.

  • @bensdecoy7871
    @bensdecoy7871 3 роки тому +3

    I am committed to staying incorrect on the mechanic/mechanism divide because in my head a mechanic is a broad category while a mechanism is an individual rule. For example in D&D the act of healing a character is a mechanic but healing surges specifically are a mechanism.

  • @JamesD2957
    @JamesD2957 3 роки тому +25

    I love how the pretzels went from a distraction from mocking someone for saying something stupid to a punishment for saying something stupid

    • @jmanjoshua1982
      @jmanjoshua1982 2 роки тому

      I hope they make it an occasional thing. I might introduce this into my games when everyone gets together again.

  • @garyfaust6769
    @garyfaust6769 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for your thoughts. I would include Star Wars X-wing, Star Wars Rebellion, Original Mr. Jack, and Grizzled,.

  • @MathMagicianSam
    @MathMagicianSam 3 роки тому +1

    I love the dynamic just like it is :)

  • @joelbloch08
    @joelbloch08 3 роки тому +9

    Spirit Island plays really well at 2.

    • @ezunino1711
      @ezunino1711 3 роки тому +2

      I mean is there any other way to play it 😂

  • @jianpanglam570
    @jianpanglam570 Рік тому

    2 player Mombasa for me, hands down, at 2 players the rules give each player one more worker, and oh my god it is SUCH A BEAUTIFUL FORWARD PLANNING GAME. I had it different because I purchased it during the pandemic and I played it as 2 player first with my wife and was completely blown away at how beautifully challenging it was, then played it the first time with 4 players and realised it was a completely different game at 2 because you totally plan your future moves according to what you think the 2nd player will play. So intense

  • @EarnestWilliamsGeofferic
    @EarnestWilliamsGeofferic 2 роки тому +2

    Blue Moon Legends is easily in my top 10. Of course, I think 8 of my top 10 or Knizia.

  • @jimalexander687
    @jimalexander687 3 роки тому +1

    Star Wars Rebellion, Dice Masters, Combat Commander Europe/Pacific/Mediterranean, Twilight Struggle. Four of my top seven games are two-player games.

  • @SanswayNuna
    @SanswayNuna Рік тому

    I want to chime in about Everdell. My boyfriend and I always played 2 players on all games until just recently (When we found more BGGs in our area). Everdell is great at 2 (Especially if you never knew you were supposed to use less forest locations at that player count :D). To answer Mike's question, I don't think the lower player count means you're struggling to find cards. IT just means you have to be more flexible in your strategizing. You can't just decided to do a farm/husband/wife every game. You have to be willing to try to win in other ways. I find it to be more relaxing and you can focus on building your city to the best of your ability, rather than struggling with the other players so directly all the time

  • @sarumon17
    @sarumon17 3 роки тому +6

    I honestly love terraforming Mars with 2 players. Obviously it’s still great at 3, but 2 is really good

    • @joshjenson8111
      @joshjenson8111 Рік тому

      Its not good at any player count because its not a good game
      #overrated

  • @francescodefilippis9384
    @francescodefilippis9384 3 роки тому +2

    Android netrunner and star wars rebellion for confrontational strict two player games, and aeon's end for cooperative games, playable by more but best count at two.

  • @manzell
    @manzell 3 роки тому +1

    In Twilight Struggle, to even sniff competitive play you need to know every card, almost every edge-case interaction, and /when/ your opponent holds each card.

  • @Specialist0815
    @Specialist0815 Рік тому

    Again a great video. I really love to see le Havre in this list. What I was missing is Mage Knight. I consider it as a 2 player only game. I do not enjoy playing solo and with more than 2 it is not really enjoyable. But it is a great 2 player game (in co-op mode..)

  • @bceagles99holla
    @bceagles99holla 3 роки тому +6

    I like Res Arcana at 2

  • @MsGinahidesout
    @MsGinahidesout 2 роки тому +1

    I LOVE Everdell!! And I think it's best at 2 players (although I do like it solo as well)

  • @gamera2351
    @gamera2351 3 роки тому +4

    Before even watching the video, my first thought was Star Wars: Rebellion. Second thought was War of the Ring.
    Im shocked it wasn't on anyone's list.

  • @mitsakosL
    @mitsakosL 3 роки тому +25

    Underwater cities, paladins of the west kingdom and aeon's end would definitely make my list.

  • @damjanm5557
    @damjanm5557 3 роки тому +1

    SW Rebellion, War of the Ring, X-wing, Battlelore 2nd ed, Netrunner

  • @combusticator
    @combusticator 3 роки тому +2

    To each their own, I'm surpised Of all 30 games listed, War of the Ring, Star Wars Rebellion or Forbidden Stars (that one being best imo with 2) didn't make the list. Star Wars Armada is another on my list, but I didn't expect them to list it.

  • @sabrinav
    @sabrinav 2 роки тому

    1. A Feast for Odin (definetaly best at 2)
    2. Ark Nova (wasn't out when you made the video)
    3. Paladins of the West Kingdom
    4.7 Wonders Duel
    5. Castles of Burgundy
    6. Gloomhaven (you need to play 2 characters each)
    7. Welcome to / Welcome to the moon
    8. Summoners war
    9. Tainted grail
    10. Hoplomachus

  • @Deabru3
    @Deabru3 3 роки тому +3

    Jokes aside, I think all of us met the same conclusion: we want that middle level or NEXT STEP games top ten for 2 players.

  • @EfrainRiveraJunior
    @EfrainRiveraJunior 3 роки тому +8

    I have never played Everdell. I'm waiting for my all-in from the last Kickstarter.

    • @codym6376
      @codym6376 3 роки тому +2

      Played it once but also eagerly awaiting my KS copy to arrive!

    • @JJ_TheGreat
      @JJ_TheGreat 3 роки тому +1

      I am with you, too!

    • @mikemudrow
      @mikemudrow 3 роки тому +1

      Are you in for a treat! It's a fantastic game.

  • @raggededge68
    @raggededge68 3 роки тому +3

    Hilarious! Please add some nasty snack or goofy food to all future videos! They keep the jokes rolling when the discussion gets slow--loved it!

  • @mystic839
    @mystic839 3 роки тому +5

    Most of Tom's games are my favorite games ever but I just can't find anyone to play with anymore.

  • @MichaelJones-yp8gj
    @MichaelJones-yp8gj 3 роки тому +4

    I would really like to see a video with the invisible medium list!

  • @tonygilbert5256
    @tonygilbert5256 3 роки тому +3

    I keep bouncing between these two-player game top ten lists, but what I really want to see is either a top ten or even a top five cooperative two-player games. Yeah, I know there isn't a lot to choose, but I am curious in what order they would come in for people at the Dice Tower.

    • @Serpenzeye
      @Serpenzeye 2 роки тому +1

      I agree! I was looking for such a list when I discovered this video.

  • @TheJharland
    @TheJharland 3 роки тому +1

    "Yeah, 40%." "Have a pretzel..." lol too funny, love it guys!

  • @andymcguire237
    @andymcguire237 3 роки тому +24

    Surprised Zee didn't put Imperial Settlers: Empires of the North on here. It's absolutely best as a 2-player game.

  • @moozarger190
    @moozarger190 3 роки тому +3

    Top 10 games turned into card games could be a good list

  • @Bieranti
    @Bieranti 3 роки тому +2

    I would add some of the Stronghold 2nd Edition games, only two, is quite advanced and cherish multiple plays with same opponent.

  • @cay6857
    @cay6857 Рік тому +1

    I do think a top ten medium level would be great. It would help people like me who are ready to move on from casual games but not quite comfortable with advanced games yet.

  • @JohnSmith-pu3pm
    @JohnSmith-pu3pm 3 роки тому +1

    Duel of Ages II, Batman Matagot, but battlelore 1st ed for sure. 1st ed is so good.

  • @dallastexas5653
    @dallastexas5653 3 роки тому +5

    I need to go ahead and start purchasing some of these. Then all I’ll need is a second player.

  • @stephenfulford6227
    @stephenfulford6227 3 роки тому +1

    LOTR: The Confrontation and Fox in the Forest are my favourite for 2 players. Jaipur and War Chest as well, but they would probably be more casual.

  • @Henry-lk5pm
    @Henry-lk5pm 2 роки тому

    Descent Legends of the Dark is great as a 2 player game because you can play with 1 character each, then play double handed as you become familiar with the system and each heroes abilities. Then go back to 2 characters or 3 if you want the quest to be a little quicker. Such a great system to allow you to enjoy and get to know all the characters during a campaign. Perhaps not a true “heavy” game (apart from the box). Would definitely put Arkham Horror LCG on this list though.

  • @pontuswastle2894
    @pontuswastle2894 3 роки тому +2

    I have been looking forward to this list. Top 10 stale pretzel 😂

  • @CaptainGamer347
    @CaptainGamer347 3 роки тому

    Duelosaur Island FTW! Nice pick, Mike!

  • @maxv658
    @maxv658 2 роки тому +1

    I'm realizing I really don't play many advanced 2-player games. 7 Wonders: Duel is probably my favorite right now, but I would honestly consider that pretty casual. Maybe middle-weight at most.

  • @GTRichardson7
    @GTRichardson7 3 роки тому +8

    Tom its not "Top 10 Middle of the road 2 player games" its "Top 10 Middle Weight 2 Player Games" and you should do it!

  • @KittJT2
    @KittJT2 2 роки тому

    I dont normally love games which use a pre-existing IP, but star wars: rebellion is a fantastic 2 player game. Asymmetry handled perfectly. Can be tense right down to the end, and is very much designed for 2 players.

  • @gustavk962
    @gustavk962 3 роки тому +1

    Mage Knight, Twilight struggle, Through the ages, 1989... Insane that none was mentioned.

    • @arthurdent9281
      @arthurdent9281 3 роки тому

      Twilight Struggle definitely was.

    • @JorWat25
      @JorWat25 9 місяців тому

      Twilight Struggle is at 48:33. Insane you didn't notice.

  • @magehammerChad
    @magehammerChad 3 роки тому +2

    Mechanics is correct as Tom conceded (see ‘quantum mechanics.’ That has nothing to do people who fix cars. And that term has been around for decades). It seems that those who come from an RPG / MtG background seem to say ‘mechanics,’ and those who say ‘mechanisms’ come from board games. But ‘mechanisms’ works as well, (though it makes me cringe every time you guys say it).
    However, when I hear ‘mechanisms’ I think of machines or contraptions (the game Mousetrap does use mechanisms) just as Tom thinks of people who fix cars.
    I purpose a new word to put this ‘controversy’ to rest: Mechanix. Pronounced ‘mech-a-nix.’
    Ok. I feel better I got that off my chest.

  • @TorIverWilhelmsen
    @TorIverWilhelmsen 3 роки тому +1

    They used to make a simplified introductory version of M:tG called _Portal_ but it seems to have been discontinued ages ago.

  • @irrevenant3
    @irrevenant3 2 роки тому

    This is probably in the comments somewhere but I can't see it, so: The rook in chess is from the Persian 'rukh' meaning chariot. For some reason it got turned into a tower at some point but the way it moves makes a lot more sense if you think of it as a chariot...

  • @JJ_TheGreat
    @JJ_TheGreat 3 роки тому

    32:34 I agree with... Tom. I don’t think the game is that difficult to play, once you teach them the rules and demonstrate to them an example of a turn.

  • @r.l.jeffries1091
    @r.l.jeffries1091 3 роки тому +2

    Duel of Ages is a battle royale, before "battle royale" as a video game concept even existed.

  • @olivierjodoin2283
    @olivierjodoin2283 3 роки тому +2

    2:25 let's make a bus route the dice game has a weight of 3.20 this morning with 2 rankings of 5 out of 11 rankings 😅

    • @EfrainRiveraJunior
      @EfrainRiveraJunior 3 роки тому

      Yup! Tom is right. BGG scores are nonsense.

    • @olivierjodoin2283
      @olivierjodoin2283 3 роки тому

      @@EfrainRiveraJunior I'm more with Mike on this. They tend to be representative once there is enough votes, the same thing as 1-10 ratings. The difference between a 1.93 and a 2.06 doesn't mean anything at all but I know in my case that I will have a much harder time getting a game with weight 3.00 to the table than a game with weight 2.20.

    • @olivierjodoin2283
      @olivierjodoin2283 3 роки тому +2

      But still, the trolling of Mike by ranking a roll and write a weight of 5 was hilarious

    • @EfrainRiveraJunior
      @EfrainRiveraJunior 3 роки тому

      @@olivierjodoin2283 - Always 🤣

  • @pwootton24
    @pwootton24 2 роки тому

    Dice Tower singing the Marine Corps Hymn?! That’s all I need.

  • @namelessfire
    @namelessfire 3 роки тому +9

    Any Top 10 where Tom gets triggered by Blue Moon is a good Top 10 😂

  • @mattvucu6706
    @mattvucu6706 3 роки тому +1

    How many players do you play 51st State with Zee? I love 2

  • @JJ_TheGreat
    @JJ_TheGreat 3 роки тому

    59:27 You see. The game being too tactical and not being able to plan is my issue with Five Tribes. It would work a lot better with 2 players because it is more “chess-like” (but I would be more likely to call it casual).

  • @IronSalamander8
    @IronSalamander8 2 роки тому

    War Chest is great! Need to play it more.
    I backed Maul Peak, so am getting Skulk Hollow with it. Love asymmetric games a lot, and these look solid and fun.
    For me, Awful Green Things from Outer Space, Snit's Revenge, Star Fleet Battles, and Ogre are great at 2!

  • @namethem00
    @namethem00 3 роки тому +4

    I'd like a middle list!!

  • @xobxob
    @xobxob 3 роки тому +3

    I was expecting to see Fields of Arle, Race for the Galaxy and Imperium: Classics/Legends. Especially Fields of Arle which feels like the quintessential advanced two player worker placement game.

    • @adamtorkelson8272
      @adamtorkelson8272 3 роки тому +1

      Alex, the dice tower is not really keen on euros. Especially heavy ones. The dice tower is 99% an ameritrash reviewer and recommendation channel. Fortunately, there are other channels that can review and recommend euros.

    • @judaschh
      @judaschh 3 роки тому

      @@adamtorkelson8272 which channels is that? Just curius

    • @adamtorkelson8272
      @adamtorkelson8272 3 роки тому

      @@judaschh Rahdo regularly puts out videos with strictly Euro recommendations (several "best of" lists), even ones concerning heavy euros. And when he reviews them one at a time with their own video, he is usually a little more fairer with his assessments, IMO. He is a bit more informed with his opinions and also doesn't always resort to the same old "dry" or "feels like work" bit. Tom is a bit harder on euros than ameritrash. That's fine. We all have our preferences. The channel Heavy Cardboard does playthroughs of heavy euros and is an excellent channel to watch if you are looking to purchase one. They do several a week I believe and have hundreds in their archive. Great channel to look through.

  • @justmakingthistoreply5085
    @justmakingthistoreply5085 3 роки тому +2

    Did Hive not make any list?

  • @Donaghwik
    @Donaghwik 3 роки тому +5

    Entertaining as always but Roy’s list should have been on there as it would have added so much to this list. Wildlands is far and away best at 4 IMHO. Personally Batman Gotham city chronicles and tyrants of the underdark are best a 2 players and would have made my list.

  • @inezkestens5561
    @inezkestens5561 3 роки тому +2

    I haven't heard Grand Austria Hotel? or is that too medium? :D

  • @robertmiller6058
    @robertmiller6058 Рік тому

    Not a fan of 2-player games but, I'm watching the entire video just for the entertainment value of your pretzel provoking repartee. Also, Mike is a fantastic addition to the team...

  • @Jan-oh4fj
    @Jan-oh4fj 3 роки тому +4

    I agree with Zee, Targi is a advanced game. I had really really head burning games with Targi. Especially with the expansion!

  • @writeheroics7490
    @writeheroics7490 3 роки тому +1

    After Mike's #2, I think I need to pull that game off my shelf of shame.

  • @sirshakletonfury4833
    @sirshakletonfury4833 3 роки тому +2

    i might go rate it a five also. legendary!

  • @josephbegin6074
    @josephbegin6074 3 роки тому +1

    I like how pretzels became a punishment.

  • @mkietzmann
    @mkietzmann 3 роки тому

    Finally Shaolia is getting some love. Such a fun game. Gorgeous, too.