I Got Rejected By Amazon...And The REASON Was Shocking!
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2023
- I Got Rejected By Amazon...And The REASON Was Shocking! I was interviewing for a recruiting job at Amazon and bombed it. But when I found out the actual reason, I was floored. The lesson learned? Don't give up, even when you feel you're performing poorly in your job interview.
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Companies are forgetting the main question: can you do the job??
Amazon didn't forget that question at all. They were just asking a follow-up question with it- Can they do the job and how long will they stay in the job? The recruiter thought he was overqualified. Overqualified employees tend to leave their company the moment something better comes along. It doesn't matter if the applicant can do the job if they won't stay in it
A lot of companies don't care much about that, they care more about will you accept less pay, and will you kiss my ass.
@@rayzerot there is also the fact that many company's now won't keep up a competitive wage for their employee and the only way to keep making enough the job you have so much time and experience in or even just enough to not have to downsize your life is to get a new job. Companies that want loyalty need to remember it has to work both ways.
@@FaQUE-hg5tlsurprisingly, some people are clearly not going to stay for long. QA and support departments do not want compu sci graduates who finished with top grades.
Yes!
A friend of mine was interviewing for a position of a tram driver, after his latest position proved... disappointment. He had gone through psychotests, including an IQ test. When the interviewer came with results, she told him: "It would be a waste of your intelligence for this position" and rejected him. Friend was furious.
Aw. Sometimes someone just needs something to pay the bills. An over-qualified person is better than under-qualified.
I wonder what changed, because back in 2007-08-09, people with MS were being rejected for people with PhD. There was no problem back then with being "over qualified." I think the centralization of positions into a tiny cluster of mega-corps that happened 2020-21-22 is partly to blame, but this is only a hunch...
Companies would rather not fill the position rather than fill it with someone overqualified because they think they'd be unhappy or leave the company once a better opportunity comes their way
Often people with a Ph.D are not suitable for a job because they tend to be more theoretically minded and less practical minded.
I know your friend was furious (I don’t blame him after going through all that nonsense), but it’s a blessing in disguise. The interviewer basically told him that he was too smart to put up with their foolishness. That company probably does all that because they’re looking for a worker bee willing to be an automaton.
you have helped me graduate from being an unemployed idiot to an unemployed smart person. thank you!
lol...thanks, I guess?
@@ALifeAfterLayoff haha your content is gold! I'M definitely the problem. Appreciate you sir.
You're okay with me bro - you gave me a needed chuckle.
So you graduated from not having a job because of lack of qualification to being unemployed for being overqualified?
Great episode! I used to conduct interviews in my prior job and whenever I came across a noticeably nervous candidate, I would try to reassure them and let them know that we have all been there. A lot of those super nervous interviewees turned out to be some of the best employees I supervised!
I'm shocked we're practically neighbors, and I've been listening to you for YEARS. It's so cool that you're a Nashville citizen, too. Your advice recently helped me leave a toxic job and obtain a new one I'll be starting on Monday. Thank you for your content!!
I wonder why they did not just tell you the feedback and ask you to re-apply. Great insight!
My guess would be they didn’t have the requisition at the time he interviewed?
@@DallenPearson What does that mean?
@@monique9003 the job likely wasn’t available yet. If they had the position at the time he first interviewed they more than likely would have discussed it with him based on the notes he saw about himself.
@@DallenPearson Good point! I'm sure you're right.
I wonder, would they have contacted him to apply for, or even fast track him on the second job once it did come up? Who ever gets a call from the company after an initial rejection with a better proposal?
Of course being overqualified can get you in the no pile. Social Media has tons of stories like this where some folks are showcasing their application to McDonalds with degrees (Bachelor’s or Master’s) and being rejected from being a cashier. Companies want people who will stay and not leave.
Yup. Definitely gets hard with higher up or "mislabeled" roles that want people with experience but not too much or want education but not too much
They want people that they can UNDERPAY and keep coming back.
Yes, and this is why my local McDonald's constantly has "We're hiring" signs, but never hire anyone locally. Instead they went overseas to hire a bunch of temp workers and stuffed six of them into a single room in a house owned by that McDonald's, and those workers can't leave for other jobs because their work visa won't allow it.
In the UK even people with medical degrees are applying for retail jobs. It's crazy here. I can't understand why someone with a medical degree would even want to apply for a low paying retail position.
@@samanthahardy9903because when unemployment runs out there’s literally no money to live on so something is better than nothing
Believe it or not, half the time we don't even notice someone is nervous. It's such a common occurrence, and everyone's body language and demeanor is a complete unknown at first meeting. We're more interested in details about your prior work history, if it's a good fit with our company and if you know anything about what we do as a business.
This is the truth.
I was gonna say the same thing. Often, we are our own worst critics, and we feel like we performed poorly when in fact we did fine.
I don’t know about that - After interviewing with three banks after my layoff from BofA in Oregon - I realized that it doesn’t matter what your experience or educational background or leadership skills happen to be. OnPoint Umpqua and M&T Bank all hire based upon political ideology. That was my calling to leave Portland!
Upon arriving in Phoenix I had employers begging to bring me on. One even offered me $8000 with zero stipulations! I then was able to choose based upon what would fit my schedule and commute.
So - as much as people want to preach about meritocracy and experience - I have to say: “it depends.”
I think anyone working or living in Portland who has old school hard working ethics = sorely disappointed by the attitude and behavior or many firms.
This is why few of those firms retain experts - and have high turnover.
Somehow First tech community credit union sees 20% turnover per quarter as “acceptable” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The Demoralization is real - So for those reading - sometimes it’s worth simply cashing in your chips and moving… unless of course you enjoy epistemic tribalism which has taken over many firms in blue cities.
I grew up in a time where it used to matter about your skills work ethic morals etc… now it seems like corporations care more about appeasing Larry Fink/ESG > sales of products and services.
That only works in oligopoly/monopoly situations - it’s going to be interesting if or when government steps up antitrust enforcement. Never has there been a time where firms need to be broken up more than now!!!
Probably more concerned about hesitancy or lack of interest than nervousness.
Some people interview well and suck at their jobs. Others do their jobs well but suck at interviews. I've been to many companies where I met some characters and wondered how the hell they got the job.
I can't tell you how timely and appreciated this one is. I interviewed with a company I really wanted and felt that I nailed the interview and the peer interview. Then I heard nothing for 3 weeks. Not even a response to two follow up emails. Then the team leader emailed me that she was sorry, she was out on PTO for a couple weeks and that they had gone with an internal candidate. Ugh. But then she asked if she could share me resume with another team that would be looking to hire in a couple months. I'm not holding my breath, but it's good to know that I'm on someone's mind for the future. This video just reaffirms that it really might be a good think coming. Thanks for what you do.
What an extremely rare opportunity you got! I think most of us have wondered what people REALLY thought about us. I've been so interested when I've worked for someone long enough that one day they decide to tell me what their first impression was of me. I wish I could get some insight from the people who didn't hire me, too.
Wait wait wait, being overqualified is a red flag to? WTF this system is broken. You can't win and you just get laid off in the end.
Yes, it's a red flag to many places because they think you might not be satisfied in that position or you might get bored and it will lead you to leave sooner.
Just more games they play.
@@shoeflytoo I think I got this figured out. I'm overqualified, for any regular entry-level position and under-qualified for executive positions. I've been desperate too many times and got into many different types of jobs leaving me a jack-of-all-trades, master of none. Perpetually under paid. In my 23 years of working. Working harder never got me any more money. Just more work.
@@mr.rightone6588Then work smarter, not harder. Make a decision on what job you want to specialize in, then pursue it relentlessly no matter the obstacles. Move in with your parents or siblings temporarily if you have to, it's worth it for the long run.
@@noseboop4354 By shifting from resume-driven assessments to skill-based searches, employers must actively seek candidates based on their capabilities rather than past salary history. This practice paves the way for more equitable compensation, breaking free from the constraints of wage stagnation and promoting a market-driven approach to salaries.
Under the Reverse Recruitment system, employers pay a fee to access a pool of skilled workers, incentivizing them to take their recruitment process seriously. Simultaneously, paying a nominal application fee to extend an offer of employment. Now every Job seeker is listed on the job market, generating revenue and ensuring the platform's sustainability.
I got rejected from Amazon too! I wasn't able to solve the coding problem in time.
But why couldn't they tell the true reason your were rejected? How about "We really are impressed with your background but you are overqualified for this position. We will keep your resume on file for future openings". AND why did you have to re-apply for the more senior position afterwards. You would think if they interviewed a good candidate but deemed them overqualified, they would call you when the second, more senior position opened? If nothing else, it makes the recruiter's job a lot easier if they already interviewed a good candidate. This is just another example of how broken the internal recruiter and HR process is today! As a former hiring manager, if I meet a great candidate and don;t have anything for them, I certainly keep a list of potential applicants and tell them that as well.
Sorry you were blindsided by your layoff. I was, too. One day I was on stage shaking hands with the CEO about how great our department's work was and the very next day I was let go. I had even been nominated for an employee award for that work! It was absolutely insane I was let go after just receiving such accolades for my work. It's been 7 years and two positions later, and to this day I still don't understand why I was let go. I wish I could go look in my HR file. Sometimes I think it just came down to me being over-paid and I was just a number on the spreadsheet. I had a history of accomplishing very tough goals and earning above-average salary increases. Maybe my number just got too high for my department and the spreadsheet turned me red and eliminated me. I hope you are feeling good about your position now. I really enjoy your channel. I feel like once you've been through a layoff you look at your career and goals very differently. In hind sight, I think my old company was a very toxic, competitive environment that made everyone afraid. The culture of fear and inadequacy was very bad. Maybe I reflected that fear and upset more than I realized I did and it contributed to my layoff. I'm jealous you actually got to see why you were rejected. I'd love to see that for every interview I ever had.
I too got a great review of my work and a few weeks later was laid off. The company went under a few years later. I found my next job after four months of unemployment.
I get the vibe that this will be me very soon. My company announced this Monday that 5000k jobs will be let go.
@@nubreed1980by any chance…CVS Health?
“ Hungerstrike” please Let it go and thank them for laying you off! If you know you were an outstanding employee, then screw your former employer, it’s their loss not yours! Never allow any job to make you feel inadequate, when you know you are going above & beyond. Sometimes there are other reasons why they let people go (budget & at your salary they can hire 2 entry level employees, they don’t like you but pretend they do, ageism , sr leadership asked mgmt from each department for a list of prospective employees to layoff ect) . Move on with your life and never look back! Your happiness & peace of mind is all that matters at the end of the day! 😊
As a recruiter myself. I've gotten nervous interviewing for positions even though I have interviewed literally thousands of people myself. The experience is very different when you are on the other side of the desk and I try to keep that in mind when I see someone who is nervous during the interview. Unless its a job that requires a lot of public speaking I don't hold it against them and do my best to make them feel comfortable.
Brilliant.
I recently had the same issue. My resume is well beyond a job I was applying for, but I didn’t get an interview. The response was “Although you have an impressive resume and experience history, we’ve decided to pursue other candidates.” No further feedback.
That's corporate speak for "you're too senior level and expensive for this job".
Man that is a familiar one, same letter many times lol
Congratulations on hanging in there and getting your dream Job at that time. I could really feel the weight of the world on you with the layoff and the move and the family.
I am convinced they didn't want someone that could attract and hire top talent more efficiently, why would they?
I messed up an answer to an interview for a flight attendant position and I had to tell my horrible ex roommate to be quite in the middle of the group video interview. I was shocked when I was invited to Houston for the next level of interview. Very few people make it to that level. I didn't get the job though. I think employers want to see if you can recover from messing up and still keep a professional demeanor and have the courage to move forward with confidence.
I hate looking for a job! I'm two years in my current position. I have been tinkering with the idea of changing jobs, but I really really hate the whole looking for another job and interviewing process. So I'll stay a bit longer in my current job. Plus, I am allowed to work from home.
In 2013, I got laid off from a 6 year position when the small division I worked for in a large company was shut down. On one interview I went to, I had 4 years more experience than the manager interviewing me and he was honest with me that he could not offer me the position or the pay I was looking for. I could have had the job if I'd wanted, but I chose to pass. Most of my strong interviews have been about 15-20 minutes of the typical Q&A before turning into more of a 2 way conversation. This works well for me, because it helps demonstrate my knowledge and interest in the job.
2023 will be remembered as the year of the layoff zero growth economy.
Great story and advice Bryan! Thank you for sharing this.
Brian, thanks for showing yourself as the real human being you are. Most people don't have the guts to do that.
Such a good reminder for me today. For years I worked as a professional actor going in for auditions and would be a nervous wreck about my meetings. Can't tell you the amount of times that I booked work after leaving an audition thinking that I had blown it.
Also being on the other side of the table as a director auditioning people for work, I only wanted the very best for people coming in the door.
All of this is a great reminder for me as I'm moving forward with career changes.
Thanks for your continued great work Bryan.
Great video Sir! Well spoken, clear and concisely articulate this dilemma. I try to tell people, jokingly, they might not like my face! The point is I don’t get to far into my head about a rejection. It’s in the eye of the beholder and I’m not them in this scenario! Soooo…
I’ve done the same thing (looking up my candidate profile at an employer). Pretty interesting to see notes on yourself!
I think we all overanalyze ourselves when we interview for a position. The past three offers I have gotten came from interviews I thought I did pretty darn bad in so obviously I can't be doing as bad as I think I am. Funny enough when I feel like I absolutely nailed an interview I don't move on in the interviewing process.
Thank you for this! Gives this introvert a lot more confidence in interviewing knowing this.
What has me messed up is the fact YOU MOVED YOUR WHOLE FAMILY ACROSS STATE LINES... Just to be laid off... My heart goes out for you on that... Because... Just Wow.
It wasn't ideal, that's for sure!
Super interesting. Great insights. This will definitely guide me in future interviews. I have had that sinking feeling, watching myself tank in real time; brilliant tip for putting that in perspective and saving the moment.
I can imagine you'll be even better at your own job after this experience.
Thank you.
Thank you very much...
I have a important interview today, and I have worked so hard to be able to articulate and represent myself and I have been very nervous. So to hear your story, it makes me feel that much better. I know I have the skills and training for the job... It's just the interview part, because during my career I always let my work speak for itself by going above and beyond, exceeding the expectations of both my bosses and customers.
Thanks again for sharing your teachings and wisdom!
I just had my interview, and I believe that I NAILED IT!
I am "Hoping" that I get a call back for the next round.
Thanks again for your wisdom!
@@michaelkellar438 Bravo. Glad the interview went well. Best of luck.
Well, you certainly got more feed back than I did, and I work for the company!
I never knew your back story. So interesting! Thank you for sharing.
As a former Amazonian (same org you were recruiting for), I've more than once "not inclined" a candidate for the same reason, but put them into the recycle pile since they were a good company fit, but not a good fit for the role. Being overqualified generally means that if someone were to present an offer, it'd likely come in too low, or if they accepted, they'd have possibly unreasonable expectations to promote quickly.
Good callouts. Those are consistent with my experience as well.
Great advice! Thanks for sharing!
Wow, thanks for sharing your insights and story, Bryan.
My pleasure!
Good for you! Congrats!! I hope u continue this channel!
Thanks for sharing! 👍🏼
Thank you-excellent interview!!
Overqualification is the dumbest and most brainless reason to not get hired. Who ever thought of that reasoning and continue to use that as a reason should quit their job and go flip burgers. I know all the reasonings behind it. I'd rather hire an overqualified person than an underqualified one. Finding someone who meets all the qualifications perfectly seems like a needle in a haystack.
Most times it's just codeword for "too old".
@@JohnVianneyPatron this is probably true. Too old and too wise and intelligent so we can't bully you around and make you do crappy work for little pay.
Resilience in the face of adversity... Loved this! Thanks for sharing your wisdom, Brian :)
Glad you enjoyed it!
hey Bryan, thanks for sharing 👍
Done dozens of interviews for OTS as Tech Screen or Panel member. Doing the initial tech screens it was amazing how many forgot they had an interview scheduled or within the first few minutes made you question the validity of their CV. Always makes you appreciate it when someone comes prepared and that shows through even when they are so nervous they trip over their own words.
Wish the over qualified reason wasn't one. Somewhat same experience you had with the weight of the world on my shoulder atm. I'd rather start over in entry level with room to advance than have to sell the house or worse.
Its tough, I get how someone overqualified might be seen as a flight risk, but also plenty actually aren't
@@paperremixthat's because they usually are.
Reason for it sits at: 6:57
Wow! Goes to show just stay positive and believe in yourself no matter how tough life gets!
Thanks for this as I am looking to interview soon after over 20 years at my current employer. I have never had a standard interview before and am nervous. What's funny is that I am afraid that I may be seen as overqualified! I'm just looking for a less stressful job with better work life balance.
You have helped me relaxe by telling me to remember that they are people too and may understand some nerves.
So being overqualified can put you in the "no" pile. What about being female and over 40? I feel that this has been my biggest barrier.
Unfortunately something that cannot be fixed. 😂
It is code for get some one younger.
Being female over 40 doesn't mean anything. Just don't come in acting like you know everything and the company owes you something.
Recruiters know that we--the over 40s--have a better and innate sense of our value, and we are better at detecting when we are being actively exploited by the organization. It is more difficult, therefore, for us to get hired, but not impossible. We also know the incredible power of persistence. :} Keep charging, Tina.
Couple years over 40 myself and I've had two places now; some unemployment workshop and another local organization I'm getting training through suggest age discrimination might be a small part of my problem.
Good luck in your search. Hope we both find something.
@@man_at_the_end_of_timethat is bullshit. Experience matters. 40 is not old.
Thank you for this video. It explained a lot. Last month I landed a new position I was hoping to get for the last few months... sure I did prepare myself accordingly but was a little nervous anyway. After I was already hired the new boss told me that it didn't matter for him at all - but it was the general composition and the way I prepared myself for the interview was much more important for him and why he decided to hire me.
Very helpful to hear it from this perspective
Amazon turned me down all three times that I had interviewed with them in the past at AWS so now I tell them to not even both contacting me.
Strange you say that. I applied to a couple of different positions and had video call interviews. The first one( back in 2015 I think) was before they started selling more products. I had to give a presentation about how I would bring in new business to a specific sector(eg electronics). After the interview they then said would I travel a couple hundred miles to a centre. I asked if they’d pay travel expenses. I never heard anything back about setting up a date. I reached out to the recruiter and was told the position had been removed.
@@wintersun398 well I did a lot of work on the in person interviews including presentations and demos for AWS cloud services that all worked correctly so no more time wasters from this company!
Same experience too with AWS interviews. NO feedback whatsoever after three full four person interview panels. Just a wate of time.
They probably considered how many returns you have made. Then were completely aghast you weren't a Prime member.
😳
I had a bad experience with amazon, seems like a strange place to work
I’ve actually heard Amazon has severely strict working conditions and is not a good place to work.
@@ShikokuFoodForest In the warehouse, they do. I don't know about the office environment. Though apparently, on a yearly basis, managers are supposed to give the axe to the bottom 10% of employees. Not for doing their job poorly, mind you.
How can Amazon reject a sharp guy like you?
Well, I think that question answers itself!
Having been laid off and only just picked up a new job, yesterday to be exact, I got the over qualified rejection reason a lot. In the end, unless you want to dumb down your resume, you need to apply for roles which would be the logical transition from your last role. This means the number of roles are lower, but you will have a better hit rate. The other point I noticed is everyone wants new employees to work in the office. If you want to work from home it’s a major negative in order to get a new job. Perhaps later they may allow you to work at home, but not as an initial expectation. I suspect the best answer is “I prefer to work in the office, but am prepared to work in whatever manner the job requires.” The final point is, prepare, prepare and if even if you think you are ready, do more preparation.
Great video, Bryan!
This might be your most relevant video ever. Thank you for the insight and the moral of the story ❤
Glad it was helpful!
I worked for Amazon for almost three years. I'll be honest, if people ask me whether or not they should work for the company, and they're getting anything below a supervisor job, I tell them no. For most people, it won't be worth it. As a picker, someone who goes around the entire facility grabbing items for customers, I was walking between seven and ten miles a night and would go hours without seeing anyone else. And you have to hit a set minimum amount of picks per hour, which can be difficult depending on the size of the items. My starting "class" was about 90 pickers. In six months, more than half were either fired because they couldn't meet the minimum require or left. By the start of my second year, there were three of us left.
Knowing your channel for a while, and your level of expertise, I couldn’t believe you could’ve blown up that much an interview.🙂
I was in a bind and ended up applying for a fast food place (a nicer one) and they ended up declining me almost instantly. Definitely one of the craziest things Ive experienced. I partially understand why jobs do it. Their logic is that we are overqualified and will probably end up leaving the job or position VERY soon to level up. Their job would just be a simple rebound. I do agree, but its still hilarious because they could hire someone worse or less qualified and run into the same issue, if not worse. What I gather from all these jobs is that they are mostly all pathetic, and you are better off trying to start your own business and work for yourself. You will generally get the best bang for buck that way and you will at least know that for the most part, only you can control your success and life. Not managers, coworkers, etc.
Cheaper to ship possessions than drive uhaul.
“Overqualified” is an old mindset that employers haven’t changed yet. A lot of people who were once in higher level positions were laid off due to the economy, but the job market and technology has changed where their skill set is no longer relevant, and they have to take a “lower” position to pay bills. Unfortunately, employers still believe that the person will leave if the better level position comes along, but the truth is in most cases, it’s not, because the skill set is outdated. It’ll probably change very soon, especially since we’ve seen how the pandemic made some jobs unnecessary, and once we see the impact that AI will have on the job market.
Most employers have finally changed their mindset about “job hopping”. In the past, “job hopping” was a kiss of death to a candidate, and job seekers were often advised to stay at a job for a minimum of 5 years. The Millenials and the Great Recession of 2008 helped change that mindset, and most companies don’t care. In fact, some companies praise it because it shows diversity in your knowledge AND your initiative to control your destiny.
The problem with today's jobs is that (IMO) we have people who are in positions that have no business or experience doing. I've seen this during my working career. It is absolutely irritating when someone who is in a leadership position gets called out for misconduct and the higher ups do nothing! We are prioritizing "quantity" over "quality". This needs to stop.
No one is over qualified for any job. Most people simply do not know how to prepare a resume focused on the job, nor do they understand how to interview for the job.
I just got a mail from recruiter from Amazon and he described the recruitment process. 2 hours coding test plus 4 rounds of interview, 45mins each. I said no. I am not that desperate to undergo this long process.
But did they never get back to suggest other positions? I would have thought they would have kept recommendations such as that in mind to improve the pool for more senior roles?
congrats on your new job sire
That experience was a few years ago. But thanks!
Reminds me of the time when I flubbed a dream job interview. I knew I did well on the initial pre-interview; I felt a real connection with her and easily answered all of her questions. But when the in-person panel interview came, I felt like a novice without any experience. I focused a lot on the cold, stoic personality of a couple of the panel members and couldn't get over my feeling of being judged. Some of the questions were so basic, I thought for sure they were tricking me. Of course, I didn't get the job - but it was one of the worst interviews I ever experienced!
Love this!
Still surprised that the IT systems are not smart enough to check the profile and block you getting restricted information about yourself, such as notes about your interview. But fortunately, for Brian, also not smart enough to report such attempts!
You don't need to be perfect, you just gotta be better than the competition
I wish I could even get to the interview stage..
numbers game.
also takes practice.
dont worry about what you CAN'T control.
So I interviewed with Aws and prepared for a month with interal referral. After multiple interviews they decided I needed to interview for a more technical senior role. Finally had four panel interview. Month later all i hear was back was not selected. No explanation. Another one of their recruitors wants me to interview. Same long drawn out process with no feedback. Interview for anothrr position in my hometown of Tennessee and same process and no result. I had 10 plus years tech experience than what job required and was older than the interviewers. In my late 40s, age discrimination in tech is real. Why does A put candidates through this when they have rhe resume and multiple pages of notes. Any advice is appreciated. God bless.
That's why you sound like my brother! You're from Chicago!
Wow. That's a good thing to remember, that sometimes you're just not a good fit.
yeah, many good people leave Chicago :(
Do you think a candidate can truly be overqualified in this sense if they have formal qualifications, but not experience?
I was rejected by Amazon in 2019, I had four interviews in two days with multiple people. They all acted like cult members and their values. One of the guys that interviewed me was very rude. It was a embarrassing and tiresome experience. Haven't applied for Amazon since then.
I have been recruited by them repeatedly, but never took the bait. The most bizarre part is they often are citing openings in locations far, far from my current home, which is so funny I can't even. You want me to move from Germany back to the US?! Ummm....no? How about Switzerland? How about uh-uh? We have something perfect for you in Prague. What role is it? We can't say until after you finish the interview process but you would love Prague. It's bonkers! Like people will drop their lives and move far away just to work for Amazon? Do people actually do that? *yes I can envision that people might do that, but it would be more likely because they want to move to the US, Canada, Switzerland, Czech Republic, etc. for their own personal reasons.
Google periodically hounds me, too. The first time I thought maybe it would be interesting and started their interview process. Cult like? omg yes!!! I had the standard recruiter phone screen, then they sent me an assigned time to do a online coding test with a babysitter (ie they would be watching me or so). I was interviewing in Germany at the time, and already had a REAL, second round interview for a job I was interested in the same day, about an hour after this online thing, so I told the recruiter I needed to reschedule it. He was SO snotty and said something like "well I can see your priorities are wrong" to which I just laughed and said something along the lines of "no, they aren't, my priorities are pragmatic. Thanks for your interest, I would like to end this recruitment process now". And he was simply SHOCKED at my impertinence (or pretended to be - I have no idea).
Every interaction I've had with Google recruiters had this flavor that I should be falling all over myself to have even the slightest chance of speaking with them...how SPECIAL they are...how LUCKY I am that they deign to contact me. Just EWWWWWW. Not my bag, man.
i also did not get a job i needed for the same reason. but he told me right on the spot . he told me aim higher . it hurt but he was right .
Happened to me when I got my most recent offer. Internship interview that became ft-offer. Ran out of questions at the end and tensed up the last 2 minutes of the Zoom window. Thought I was screwed. Loe and behold I get the good news from hr about 26 hours later.
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I totally blew the first job interview I had after 15 years in another job. It was a panel interview conducted by 2 groups of like 6 people over 2 hours. After I was notified that I didn't get job, I reached out to the HR person and asked for a blunt assessment of my interview skills. She knew my situation and gave me a lot of very helpful information.
Like any communications you have to target yourself for the traget audience even using your best guesses from experience as to what they may be looking for. Doing a train the trainer course can be a good thing for getting these skills and being very confident in your own experience that you bring to the table. There should be no nervousness when you are earnestly tryung to convey information in the most understandable simplest way possible. BTW my best interviews have mostly been the shortest with succinct answers. Dwelling on things makes you sound unsure and not confident: answering questions and moving on in this way makes you sound like a confident productive no nonsense performer, which is exactly how you wish to come across! It is what they should also be looking for, and if not then its red flag to f*** them off and move on to the next interview! ;-) Booyeah Americana Amigos!
How should you determine what level of jobs you're actually qualified for if you're "over qualified" for some job?
Something told me the reason was going to be over-qualification, lol. Still quite unfortunate. Also, as someone who lives right under Tennessee, it's a really hard balancing act with wanting a lower cost of living, but wanting to make more. The south just absolutely bottoms out in wage increases over the last 20+ years, so in most cases, one or the other will need to be sacrificed. You might find a few employers, like Amazon, who pay well, but as you saw, your options were very limited.
This is why I too want to leave here. I'll take the higher cost of living if I'm also getting paid more. I've also spent the majority of my life in the south and I miss being up north (my family used to live in Alaska. I don't want to go that far north, though 😅).
The main reason to live in NYC is to max out your retirement account with the less valuable regional dollar. The main reason to not live in NYC is the sky high cost of living. It really is a balance
Yeah, I left the south for higher wages and luckily Landes in lower COL area to add. Win.
That’s great.
And then, when you look back and every response before the rejection contains the following: thank you for interviewing with us. Your skills and experience are very impressive. Unfortunately, we have decided to move ahead with another candidate. That best fits our needs.
Thank you and good luck in your future endeavors.
imagine getting that great response for the last 20 years.
Lol.
Funny thing that you mention not giving up if the interview starts going downhill. I just interviewed with AWS recently. My phone screen was with the HM and got nervous to the point I kept running out of breathe and was struggling to talk. Then, the Chime call disconnected in the middle of it and I almost gave up. But I said no, I have to try to right the ship so I got back in and finished the interview. Afterwards, I was like yup I just bombed that and there is no way I get to the loop. They didn't get back within the two day promise (screening was on the Thursday heading into MDW) so by the time Tuesday passed I pretty much accepted I was done for. But it was midweek the following week when I was contacted for loop scheduling. So it was about a two week turnaround there. I had my loop last Friday but have not received the outcome yet. Hopefully Monday I get some news since that will be the 5th working day since my loop due to Wednesday being a holiday. 🤞🏼
When I interview I have to answer random coding questions sometimes on the spot. There’s almost no way to really know what they’ll ask.
"Thank you for your video". Just yesterday, I was rejected in my interview process at Amazon and felt extremely sad. I'm going to consider that maybe that was the fair reason for my rejection. Thanks again!"
Can you elaborate on the blacklist topic? I'd like to hear more about that
Sir, its not fear in the interview ( I am in Cleveland !), Its the monetary shock. In Cleveland , they think$10.10, minimum wage , to maybe $12 an hour is really something . Whem I ask for $15.00, and up , hourly , they act like I abducted their wife.
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After COVID layoff; it was difficult to get hired at all. After a career and six years of college, I was astounded to find out how many jobs came down to lifting heavy things. No matter what the position, they add at the bottom "can lift objects over 50 lbs." I'm 63. I simply can't make a living being a human jack, but others simply refused me because I was "overqualified" Overqualified doesn't pay the bills, and I'm not overly a proud person. I'll do labor I am more than qualified for, but the "50 lb weight lift limit" is crazy. We have discovered the wheel and the lever. Safety dictates that ANY employee handling things too large/heavy for them to ask a co-worker for assistance. There MUST be a better way. Again, I have a job where my teenage supervisors require me to do most of the cleaning/bathrooms/garbage. We're getting the exact same pay. What gives?
After I'd been in a job for about a year, I was told I hadn't been expected to last the first week and they were looking for my replacement. I survived 5 years.
Did you ask them why they hired you, then? What a completely bizarre thing to say!
Though, I currently have a boss who says strange negative but vague things to me, too. Last time I got a raise I was pleased and he just had to say "well that is below average" but refused to explain why I got "below average". I honestly could not care less - if he wants to give me constructive feedback I am VERY happy to receive it, and do what I can to improve. But if he wants to be vaguely negative with no further explanation...meh. No idea why someone would want to make you feel bad about a raise that you're happy with ;)
How would that be to read the feedback for every job I've been rejected for.
My department does deny recruits with experience or without for being overqualified because of multiple instances of people joining either to get their foot in the door or others with experience who take a job instead of being unemployed, because really, these types of people do not stay for long in our department. It takes several months for someone to get productive, so if they are going to be too good too fast, they will get bored and not challenged enough to stick around and build the department.
This happened with me nd Google. I had my back against the wall and while under pressure I performed horribly in my final rounds of interview. I totally fumbled the opportunity .
Lucky you were in that position where you could take a sneak peek!
How come candidates usually don't have the insight to those HR notes at some point in time?
A liability nightmare. Sometimes it's better not to know.