Scums Puppet System - Exclusive Dev Insight

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  • Опубліковано 14 гру 2024

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  • @therealchurchtt
    @therealchurchtt 2 дні тому +23

    SCUM is simply built different. Honestly it blows every game in is genre out of the water easily. The features scum has no other games have. SCUM is simply an incredible game. God bless those Croatian wizards who created it! I LOVE this game. It deserves to be recognized for what it is.

    • @RayKit
      @RayKit  2 дні тому +1

      Bloody well said! Thank you :)

    • @tokiburoak7457
      @tokiburoak7457 2 дні тому +3

      It will be the best multiplayer sandbox survival game once modders take over.

    • @howweroll7
      @howweroll7 2 дні тому +2

      What features other than metabolism?

    • @RayKit
      @RayKit  2 дні тому

      Spawners/looting/trading everything is custom written. ​@howweroll7

    • @BeefyBacardi
      @BeefyBacardi 2 дні тому

      @@therealchurchtt that’s a fact! While I was waiting for quest system to be added, I tried getting back into DayZ but it felt like too much of a downgrade, even with mods.

  • @phillvallace
    @phillvallace 2 дні тому +9

    I miss the times before the horde & hunting update, game felt way better back then :(

  • @ahmed_x5597
    @ahmed_x5597 2 дні тому +14

    Tbh the old system before the horde update was actually nice, today i started playing after a 2 year break and it's so goofy that when i was looting the airbase i went to military small hanger and around there were no puppets, i opened the door there was nothing, i went in and 2 puppets popped up 😒 like bruh i remember when i could snipe puppets from a nice distance

    • @RayKit
      @RayKit  2 дні тому +1

      All in good time Ahmed. The game is not finished yet and we are testing many of the features.

    • @ahmed_x5597
      @ahmed_x5597 2 дні тому +1

      @RayKit true, i just hope and pray this game someday becomes soo good, i meeean it's already kinda fun

  • @mikel4702
    @mikel4702 2 дні тому +2

    I would be perfectly fine with the current puppet spawn volumes and pve vs PVP balance, of it weren't for the lack of noise they make. I get when they are just lumbering around you can barely hear them, but when they start charging at you from beyond bushes or buildings without making any noise is frustrating. I have instances where I am not making any real noises and high sneak skill, no rampaging footstep noises at all will be heard yet I'll be getting slapped around by two or three of them. Zero warning.

  • @docdockin6325
    @docdockin6325 2 дні тому +2

    This is one of my most favorite games there is. I would rather them take there time and make it the best there ever will be. Thank you Ray for the video

  • @dr3d0ne
    @dr3d0ne 2 дні тому +2

    So...... what your saying is.... puppets are tied not only to how many players there are, but also to players specifically which is why when horde was implemented, puppets spawned on players instead of a zone mechanic where they spawn in an area around players. 😑 it's not hard to understand. It's exactly what we all thought was going on.

  • @sli-fox
    @sli-fox 2 дні тому +1

    I can wait for the game to mature. Its unpolished nature at the moment gets me every once in a while. Rust has been going on for 11 years and that game is incredible. I look forward to the day when I can shutdown my Rust server for good and have Scum in its place, but I know it’s going to be a long while before that happens.

  • @foundryrat1282
    @foundryrat1282 2 дні тому +1

    Thank you for this video you just taught me more than any Info that gamepires gave out in their blogs and patch notes ever did. Thank You.😃

    • @RayKit
      @RayKit  2 дні тому

      My absolute pleasure sir!

  • @TC-VS-Gaming
    @TC-VS-Gaming 2 дні тому +6

    I was a PMC Sniper IRL.
    Scum is the only game that has gotten windage and bullet drop calculations perfect.
    You can literally cosine bullet drop it's perfectly accurate to the math.
    Windage is just multiples of 2.5 at mid every 30 degrees. At weapons max effective range. So you can work this out as well!
    Whatever consultant they used. They did a great job.
    Also. The acog, posp, and spectral rangefinders work. Without having use SCUMS one. Also enfilade indicators like in the xps 300 are accurate! When matched to the weapon it belongs on.
    It's the first game I have ever seen where chevron and stadia are accurate. So props to them for that alone!

    • @slayerdude18
      @slayerdude18 2 дні тому +2

      what about sniper elite? [specifically the 4th one]

    • @TC-VS-Gaming
      @TC-VS-Gaming 2 дні тому +2

      @@slayerdude18 Haven't heard of it, ill check it out

  • @Janzer_
    @Janzer_ 2 дні тому +1

    i think the community is pvp or coddled pve. people say they want difficulty but then don't like it when they die or lose gear. being a server admin for years, trying to balance out the settings to players is impossible because they all want different things. play the game, broken or not, or don't play it. that's why i play other games like Icarus, 7D2D, Div2, etc.

    • @RayKit
      @RayKit  2 дні тому

      You'll never please everyone. Don't even try lol.

  • @Janzer_
    @Janzer_ 2 дні тому +1

    i think you nailed it, if you have a larger playerbase server, you'll have challenge that comes from the players, not so much from NPCs. when you have a smaller community you'll have challenge more from NPCs, not players. I see nothing wrong with looking at things in this perspective because it makes total sense. The problem is player expectations where they want everything shaped around their feelings, and don't really care about playing the game that has been developed.

    • @RayKit
      @RayKit  2 дні тому

      I like the process. It makes sense. Very smart.

    • @prisma567
      @prisma567 День тому

      Everybody wanna play Scum but nobody wanna play scum.

  • @slayerdude18
    @slayerdude18 2 дні тому +1

    as long as the puppets dont spawn on me within 1 or 2 meters distance im happy with what i got, its a game, its meant to be fun, scum is buildt different and whatever doesnt work now, will be eventually fixed or tweaked later. i got faith in the devs got nothing to complain ^^

  • @TaaxiCaab
    @TaaxiCaab 2 дні тому +7

    damn.. you ramble more than Luthais

    • @RayKit
      @RayKit  2 дні тому

      Cool 👍

    • @christohees9150
      @christohees9150 2 дні тому +2

      Then stop watching 😂

    • @Gazbeard
      @Gazbeard День тому +1

      At least we can understand Raykit.

    • @RayKit
      @RayKit  День тому

      ​@@Gazbeard I like to hand out maple syrup with my waffles. Don't judge me ORIEEEET! Xd

  • @nightware.
    @nightware. 2 дні тому +2

    The game will be much better and more optimized on UE5. I just hope they start transitioning to it...

    • @Slazh
      @Slazh День тому

      @@nightware. UE5 games still have issues with certain technical problems from the last few UE5 games I’ve seen the latest being stalker 2

  • @Ayns.L14A
    @Ayns.L14A 2 дні тому +1

    Cheers Ray, nicely explained..

  • @BunkbedCoffin
    @BunkbedCoffin 2 дні тому +3

    Thanks RayKit! You're my number one go to for SCUM info!

    • @RayKit
      @RayKit  2 дні тому +1

      Thanks Bunkbed much love mate! Happy to see you well!

  • @danielcarvalho3079
    @danielcarvalho3079 2 дні тому +2

    They should give us some kind of info, in a form of a file or list about the encounters. Info should be setting name: description (not a vage one): type of data (percentage/multiplier/ etc): how is this data applied(with a math function/multiplyer of what base number/etc). And keep this file or list updated every time a setting is changed

    • @RayKit
      @RayKit  2 дні тому

      No one likes math. It needs to be simple. Maybe it will in the future.

  • @flash1259
    @flash1259 2 дні тому +3

    Only talking about puppets/ zombies spawning in I also play No One Survived. They added hordes a little before Scum did. IMO They did a lot better job adding hordes than Scum. They always spawned quite a ways away and never on my head. Even with the alarms on the vehicles around the map. When the alarm is triggered from searching the puppets never spawned on my head.

    • @Gazbeard
      @Gazbeard День тому +1

      I agree - No One Survived has a far better horde spawning system - in both single and multiplayer.

    • @flash1259
      @flash1259 День тому

      @@Gazbeard For extreme hordes if you haven't I'd suggest watching some of Vee's videos. She test different locations for horde bases. Some of them get really extreme.

  • @rumjaku
    @rumjaku 2 дні тому +1

    Thank you RayKit!

  • @K.Kilsom
    @K.Kilsom 2 дні тому +2

    Umm didn't 7days to die stay in early access for 7 years, It takes 6-8 years to make a GTA game. I don't see anything wrong with the time it's taken to make this.... One of a kind game.! I've been playing this since 4.5 update and still play it today. Great game and will be even better when it's done. Worth the wait 4 me! Cheers thx RK for all the great info and insight to the game we all love SCUM

  • @BeefyBacardi
    @BeefyBacardi 2 дні тому +2

    That screenshot reminds me of that annoying teal pinstripe on the Cruiser. I can't be the only person who notices, it clashes with my paintjob. Please devs, let us change the color of that decal or paint over it entirely.

    • @RayKit
      @RayKit  2 дні тому +1

      I'd like to see that teal colour gone too

  • @apeck100
    @apeck100 День тому +1

    Scum is literally in a league of its own and despite the drawbacks this is what you get for $20-$25 when i first started playing it they could of went full day z and sold out because they got there profit and yet they didn't, this is there baby help them let it grow and no im not bagging on day z, i started on day z and loved it, then found scum, and from the first time i played scum day z should of turned into scum but they sold out😆 the devs at scum are paving a entire new engine/way of playing just for us to enjoy, lets show our support

    • @RayKit
      @RayKit  День тому

      Well said mate 100% people expect lambos for the price of a civic. See what I mean? This isn't war. No one has died. It's a video game.

  • @Schizz_Popinov
    @Schizz_Popinov 2 дні тому +2

    People seem to forget this is a very small dev team that has recently started growing. They also lost development time due to covid and its restrictions, which were quite heavy-handed in eastern Europe, from what I understand. People seem to think everything is done at the snap of the fingers, but anyone with half a brain can see progress is being made even if slowly. I would prefer slow and correct rather than fast and more bugs with terrible content. They have been guilty of the latter a few times, and it bit them as the community raged. The only thing I hope for right now is fixing the cruiser engine sound. It has no depth of sound during acceleration or heavy throttle input. It always sounds like it is at a steady cruising speed with no pitch variations due to throttle.

    • @RayKit
      @RayKit  2 дні тому +1

      Well said.

  • @flash1259
    @flash1259 2 дні тому +1

    The more players the less puppets and the less players the more puppets. Is that something from the current update? The server I'm on still hasn't been updated. I'm usually the only person on the server and there's not nearly as many puppets as there used to be. I'm also on a server with increased puppets. I used to have 8 puppets in the B2 airport Quonset huts. Now there's 4 max. I used to have an airfield full of puppets. Now I have to drive around to find any.

    • @RayKit
      @RayKit  2 дні тому +1

      Its been like this for a while now.

    • @flash1259
      @flash1259 2 дні тому +1

      @@RayKit I just know about the server I'm on and the videos I watch. Before the rework started on the puppets I had a lot of puppets. I was killing over 100 at the B2 airport when I was getting my 30k puppet kills Steam achievement. Now I see very few outside and not too many more inside.

    • @RayKit
      @RayKit  День тому +1

      @flash1259 what's the population of that server?

    • @flash1259
      @flash1259 День тому

      @@RayKit I'm not sure how many people are on the server but, the majority of the time I'm the only player on it. There was one time there was 2 or 3 other players.

  • @spegg3454
    @spegg3454 2 дні тому +2

    Great Info - Thank you for this!

    • @RayKit
      @RayKit  2 дні тому

      Pleasure, thanks Spegg!

  • @flash1259
    @flash1259 2 дні тому +1

    I've died a lot of times in Scum. Even when a bomb puppet silently rounded a corner and blew me up or jumped off a roof in front of me and blew me up I didn't complain about it. Even when they piled in on me in the guard shack at the Radio tower and beat me to death. I didn't like the one time an invisible drop blew me my tractor and everything else up.

    • @RayKit
      @RayKit  2 дні тому +1

      I hate the bomb puppets everywhere too

  • @reconc4t
    @reconc4t 2 дні тому +8

    It's a bad system, and people just don't enjoy it, sure not everyone doesn't like it, but enough dont that it should be a concern. This is a great video with great explanation, but nothing in here changes that fact. Many games on more limited engines with similar map sizes are able to deliver an engaging and immersive pve and pvp experience. Experiments can fail and should be learned from, not boxed and pushed through.

    • @RayKit
      @RayKit  2 дні тому

      There are many games about but none like scum. As stated. They're not completed or finished. To maximise the end result we need to be testing this during the development of the game. What matters is 1.0 not before.

  • @lphotwunteel5250
    @lphotwunteel5250 2 дні тому +3

    The fact there is still the samr bugs as .05 that have no been fixed and they continue to add stuff to the game before fixing the original issues and release dlc content speak volumes of were the devs minds are at. Ambitions will be the downfall of this game

  • @Hex_268
    @Hex_268 2 години тому

    Think of it like this. Nothing and nobody is perfect. We are all in development, if you will. People change, cars change, engineering changes, tech changes... That's why we have new things every other month. Scum is the same. And we just got to hive it time. I love where it is and where it's going. But it will take time. Give it a go and if you don't like something come back after a while and see if it's still there. Maybe they change it or remove it or add another aspect to the game that supports that function or aspect you didn't like, but it will change. Just give it time.

  • @howweroll7
    @howweroll7 2 дні тому +2

    If they stopped you from hoarding thousands of pieces of loot that has to have a major impact on the performance. As for the “spawn” the npc’s should already exist pretty simple nothing should pop into existence they should already exist. Also this has to do more with money than them doing things no one has done before. World of Warcraft could have thousands of players on a server with all the loot and mobs and there can be some lag but it’ll work itself out. 64 people causing servers to become unstable doesn’t seem like they are doing ground breaking stuff. I love the game but other than the metabolism system nothing is new? Guns,mobs,loot,pvp,flying,npc’s. Nothing new there. I think they are trying really hard to recreate the wheel.

  • @jedthezed3599
    @jedthezed3599 2 дні тому +3

    I get what you are saying and it makes total sense, but why does it sound like you're reading a script kickx wrote? lol

  • @barnwobble
    @barnwobble День тому +1

    They shoulddo what i would do,give up and go on the sick lol

  • @MaxMozin-wr2ds
    @MaxMozin-wr2ds 2 дні тому +7

    Conclusion: The engine can't handle the vision. So the game are in trouble, serious trouble. If they can't make it work the way the players want it it will fail at 1.0. If old players don't like it, new players wont either. And then it will be dead in a year or two. Same story as Miscreated..

    • @RayKit
      @RayKit  2 дні тому +1

      They'll make it work. It's still being developed and worked on.

  • @budjy
    @budjy 2 дні тому +3

    Devs only care about monsters and rgb.. its the meta nowadays.. no more pure survival. the simulations things simple desapear.. The zombies are completely broken.. the imersion of arrive a spot and see 20 or 30 zombies simple desapear now born from nowhere or in your front is so stupid.. Idont want to be hater but update for update the evidence is more clear.. good luck and hope one day see the true scum back to the right way not riding in circles..

  • @andrei-alexandru7622
    @andrei-alexandru7622 2 дні тому +6

    finally i got tired of the FAIL of SCUM of giving a good product as a game; the gamepires failed at giving a good product so ..after 2k+hours of playing and ..200+Euros giving, suppoting the work of them; as a customer i dont need to know how "hard" is to develop a game; sounds like a begging stuff from game pires and the way that they react when someone criticise for their own mistakes and not taking responsabilities- most of the youtubers and many players like me-playing on computer from 1994 wont take this kind of BS was a good game two years ago- then they experimented and FAIL too many times;

    • @andrei-alexandru7622
      @andrei-alexandru7622 2 дні тому +1

      good guy and good DIPLOMACY from RK :)

    • @RayKit
      @RayKit  2 дні тому

      Thanks but..
      It's not finished. It's early access. Why play it like it's a finished product? Weird

    • @andrei-alexandru7622
      @andrei-alexandru7622 2 дні тому +1

      @@RayKit from my experience as a man that is looking over the GAMINGindustry i can say that...this is thePROBLEM:early acces for 6years!!! this is a TRICK! if is EARLYacces ..developers should not ask for money; IF we pay then we have expectations; i say now for anyone: dont give MONEY for a game until is finished- if is FREE then we can TRY!!! like ABI game now, a chinese game..for many players surprise this days how a "communist " country can manage their product : better than biggest companies in the WEST; failing because of allCOLORflagPeople :))) players dont want politics in games-especially those with NOresonances for US!

    • @RayKit
      @RayKit  2 дні тому

      @@andrei-alexandru7622 Devs have not once "asked" for money.. You choose to buy the game or DLC's provided. You went all weird and political.. It's a game brother. Take a breather.

    • @andrei-alexandru7622
      @andrei-alexandru7622 2 дні тому +2

      @@RayKit nono! i knew what im talking about: i gave my hope to them "investing" with over 200Euros and giving the game to 6 of my friends to try it- i have the right to criticise ..moraly! the last 6 months..im just looking time to time to see..maybe..but im not paying much attention to them; i keep walking; and ofcourse is political(as i know is about TALKING-etimology is comming from POLISgreek for town..), is not about party politics, is about gaming politics and psychology that is applied to gamers; so..i can change my mind as you said; do you sent me to...take a breather!??! you start to be part of the problem-not my "friend" anymore; you are paid and you should say it every time when you talk about scum: yes or not; if you dont have a contract with scum devs, you have for sure money indirectly by covering this game; im dont support you anymore!

  • @francizupancic5167
    @francizupancic5167 2 дні тому +1

    like all the time nice video RayKit great to hear that they working on all things in game. Only thing i dont like in terms of pupets is that when they spot you they glitch diferent spot and when they start to atack you they are diferent spot again but other than that its all great from my point of perspective. I cant w8 anymore for new graphic 🤩🤩🤩

    • @RayKit
      @RayKit  2 дні тому +1

      Thank you :) there are more fixes and tweaks to come. Hope you are well.

  • @lukemullineux
    @lukemullineux Годину тому

  • @anonymous-pr2sy
    @anonymous-pr2sy 2 дні тому +15

    you can make all the excuses you want but we were supposed to have features like functional base-building and raiding YEARS ago and they still don't work. These devs are not developing this game like it's an active early-access title, they are developing the game like there are no players and there's no community to maintain. They will utterly break the game multiple patches in a row without regard. These developers have repeatedly released patches that devastated the game with issues like ZERO items spawn ANYWHERE and NO loot drops from ANY container. The infection system on release would give you fatal infected burns for wearing a sweater in a warm climate. I understand they are literally paying you money to say this stuff but it's time to stop making excuses for these developers

    • @anonymous-pr2sy
      @anonymous-pr2sy 2 дні тому +4

      the most recent patch broke all ability to buy items at traders and they refused to accept or admit it was even a bug

    • @RayKit
      @RayKit  2 дні тому +6

      Who says I'm getting paid? Why make assumptions that are complete and utter bs.. its early access. What else can I say. If you're not happy then wait it out and stop acting like it's a complete game. Uno reverso.

    • @RayKit
      @RayKit  2 дні тому +7

      ​@anonymous-pr2sy remember.. we are the testers. No one really knows about scum yet in the grand scheme of things. Console will be coming also. This game is invisible right now. Wait until 1.0

    • @danielcarvalho3079
      @danielcarvalho3079 2 дні тому +2

      ​@@anonymous-pr2sy its a setting, not sell quest items in traders. Now if its off, it should still be there to be sold and if it isnt then you're right its a bug. Check patch notes

    • @Schizz_Popinov
      @Schizz_Popinov 2 дні тому +3

      ​@anonymous-pr2sy base building was never intended in the original thought process for the game. It was introduced later as a add on rather than something that was thought about from the start because players became vocal about wanting it. They had to work it in the programming, and I think that is what has given the building system so many issues. Now people can horde so many items and the game has to process those along with everything else in the game which slows things down and uses resources for both development and server that could be used for other things in the game. It is early access, and it's being developed as we test and find the issues to make the game better at full release.

  • @Dr.Geek-ZA
    @Dr.Geek-ZA 2 дні тому +1

    Clickbait "Exclusive Dev Insight". All I head is your monologue.

    • @RayKit
      @RayKit  День тому

      Not click bait when it's from a cofounder..

  • @sekaarigamer8768
    @sekaarigamer8768 20 годин тому

    How funny it is.. Gamepires didnt invent squat zones encounters and spawning was done on modded conan first, as well as a couple indy unreal games. SMH Cant even say their system is a good version of zoned encounter spawning. Whats hillarious is to hear you play schil pretending that they created shit modders have been doing for the past five years now on unreal.
    Listening to you finally admit that gamepires cant change h realities and limitations of the unreal engine felt good man..

  • @Gazbeard
    @Gazbeard День тому +1

    Blah Blah Blah Servers MMO Blah Blah - but Raykit, SCUM IS NOT an MMO (MASSIVELY multiplayer online game). SCUM IS an LMO (LIMITED multiplayer online game).
    64 players is not massive, it is limited small player count. BUT, I'll lay a Pound to a Penny that the majority of games are single player and not multiplayer. I'll also gamble a Fiver to a Penny that the majority of servers are private and restricted access for groups of four to six players. The Devs need to acknowledge this and move on.

  • @jigsawjonny
    @jigsawjonny 19 годин тому

    Careful, don't be a keyboard warrior on here or the UK police will come get you. 😆