Little tip for 3:52, instead of placing your trap all the way at the bottom, place it at the end of the staircase, because if you're in chase and somebody decides to run up the staircase (they won't see the trap at the bottom so they will most likely go there) they'll run into the trap (or be heavily deadzoned) and since you're in chase you got yourself a free kill!
I think the best thing I learned/figured out about John Doe is that you are NOT supposed to use Corrupted Energy in chase, unless you’re trying to cut someone’s route off. C00lkid and 1x4 have no problem using their projectiles mid chase for light/heavy damage, but JD can NOT get away with it, and it’ll give the survivor you’re after more than enough time to recharge their stamina and get a huge lead on you. Just run them down, and try to herd them into a trap you’ve already set down, and if you HAVEN’T set a trap down, you can place one in a spot where they’re trying to loop you (like the castle ramp of Brandon Works) before just going back to chasing them.
Exactly. He’s not entirely meant to chase, he’s more so for cornering survivors and preventing escape. The only reason his chase is viable even without abilities is because of Unbreakable, which only adds to the destruction once they trigger traps too lol
Something to note about the Horror Hotel trap placed near the hands is that survivors can negate the slowness effect by stepping in the hands, the hands give slowness 3 for 2 seconds, resetting the slowness, however, John Doe can still see you and will have the speed boost
fun fact, while 007n7 is in the d tier list, you can trick the killer without using clones if they actually know how to play as him, at some points pretending to be a clone to trick the killer
John Doe’s trump card for me is his ability to combo Corrupt Energy and Digital Footprint by trapping survivors in a short area and forcing them to run around, thus activating Digital Footprint which basically gives you a free kill.
In my experience, I agree. I play every killer based on who I feel like playing and have leveled every killer to at least level 50-except Jason, since I haven’t played him much. Even after the nerfs, John Doe still gives me the most consistent wins compared to any other killer. I can take down competent players by chasing them until both of our stamina runs low, then using Spike and carefully aiming it at them. Most of the time, I use the Kai tech by looking away from the player and timing my hits, but this can be countered if they stay close enough to me to keep a safe distance from the hidden spikes. To counter this, I follow up with a second Spike attempt, mimicking the spike tech, but this time, I look directly at the player I’m chasing before the spikes launch. Since they tend to walk closer to me, the attack hits quickly, usually killing them before they even realize what’s happening.
Yorick's Resting Place there is an extra setup, there is a high place where is also a "Fountain" 1. Place trap at the start of the path to go to the high place 2. Use corrupt energy like you're gonna cut in two pieces the high place 3. Chase the player 3.1 if he goes to left, it will be trapped unless he takes poison damage 3.2 if he goes to right you will get an advantage in the chase by closing a looping spot
Some things I like to do as john doe is: When regaining stamina mid chase, I set up a digital footprint next to a good spot, so later when in the chase, they have a chance to step into it.
this is why i love john doe, he is so good with traps a combo i usually do is 404error then corrupt energy so i can see the survivors and hit them with it (mostly works)
nice video I like it cuz it explains pretty well how to use john doe, btw about the tierlist, in my opinion jason and coolkid could easily be A tier or more if the player uses it correctly, I tried every single killer in the game and with coolkid all you have to do is corner people and it's basically a free kill, with jason is quite harder but using raging race in the right moments is basically a kill too
honestly i would swap shedletsky and chance in that tierlist, shedletsky not only can self heal but also defend himself more consistently than chance, and chance is easy to dodge because of his long windup
007, shedletsky, and noob should all move up a tier ngl 007 can trick the killer and people only think he sucks bc everyone uses the clone mid chase (which is not a good play) Shedletsky has the most reliable stun as he doesn’t rely on rng or blocking a hit beforehand Noob is super good at solo survival epically if you ttne ghost burger with last man standing
Agreed with Noob, his undetectable makes it highly impossible to detect with last stand, and he can use Blox early on to gain some distance before a chase.
I disagree with 07. He’s too predictable and counterable. But I’ve been playing a lot of Shed and I can understand that prospective. I think Guest and Shed are tied in the same place personally, because they both have their ups and downs. As for Noob, I think he’s great but I don’t think he’s viable in any part of the match except for end game, which makes him super selfish and unreliable
@ Hard Agree on that, but tell me: How many times did you have a match againt a Pro Killer, when your team is made out of Noobs with no Elliot nor Builderman in sight? Sometimes, you gotta be selfish to even SURVIVE.
TW: OPINIONS!! I think that coolkid should be atleast A tier or even S tier because he is busted and has crazy potential if used in right hands. Sure his hitbox is the smallest (i think) but m1 speed makes up for that and not to mention that i think he has 2nd fastest walkspeed/sprint. And also about shedletsky..A tier or even S tier because he is really good as survivor. Stun (pro players or even abv avarage can counter bait killers with slash and heal is rlly good too. Imo last tierlist was better (as for survivors). Welp i think thats it so if you want to correct me go ahead! I would like to hear some opinions/facts or mistakes I did wrong. Good video btw
Coolkid actually has the slowest walk speed but has Jason run speed. The problem with Coolkid is how easy he is to stun and his lack of aura reading abilities. Hes extremely strong on mobile though because of the aimbot. Ignoring the aimbot, he’s viable, but def doesn’t compare to 1x4 and John
@@RetrosWave Oh wow i heard from my friends on discord server that it is one of the fastest ones. But on the stun part, yes I agree but again, expirienced players is a MENACE to the whole server. Overall all characters depends on player but overall i agree that coolkid might be weaker then John but not so on 1x1. The problem with 1x1 is the lack of vertical attacks so everyone can just go on the hill at the haunted mansion and camp there. Sure his R gives speedboost and overall his abbilities are really good but it can be countered easily but imo his m1's is one of the strongest by far. (sorry for yapping)
@@KamiXD1488 no worries about the yap and you’re right. 1x1 sucks on maps with verticality. However, if he manages to get a few kills, these maps are a lot easier to win on because of his zombies. They make camping and looping impossible sometimes, and they make lms so unfair.
It's fine. I personally learned that con the hard way mid match. It's a little more managable to place a trap next to the door so you can expannd your distance from the building
07 is extremely situational unfortunately and good killers never fall for his clone, but hey at least you can flex you’re level 100 with the weakest survivor in the game lol
About that tierlist. Noob is the strongest non-sentinal in the game by a long shot, hes like A tier imo. Shedletsky is up there with chance. 007n7 is C. Hes not good but hes better than two time. Builderman isnt S, its really easy to catch up with him. Jason is the best killer in the game, due to his raging pace having I-frames at the start, allowing you to completly ignore stuns and come back with a harsh punish.
Noob is the best LMS in the game but that’s about it. Shedletsky is debatable for sure I can see that. 07 is the most awful character in the game with no redemption, I’m tired of arguing about 07. Builderman is INSANE with coordination. I’m probably gonna stream this weekend and I’ll show you some stuff with Builderman. Jason is debatably the worst killer in the game. He’s like the only character you can infinite over and over and over in some situations. That being said he’s still good…def not better than John though
@ Jason and builder man is fair. But i stand on Noob and 07. Noob can counter john does traps by activating ghost burger and stepping in them, making it so john doe doesn’t see where you are. he can also ignore 1x4s and john does aura reading moves. He can get minions off his tail and tank coolkidds pizza bots for his team, and cola activates lighting fast. The only move that is meh in his kit is slate skin, which still has its uses. And 007n7 is great at lms and can activate john’s traps with his clones. He isn’t good i get that but he’s better than two time by a long shot.
oh yeah also i think shedletsky is the best sentinal in the game cause his stun doesnt require you to do anything to get it, unlike guest and chance. also he just has free healing
@@InvadingStatic could u add me on discord so we can talk about this? I’m on mobile so it’s constantly deleting my message while I’m trying to read what you’re saying lmfao. My discord is retroswave
6:00 this wall isn't really good as survivors can just walk on top of the spikes and easily escape john. what i would do instead is to go to the left side of the doorway near the dropzone. use your spikes and SLOWLY curve them using shiftlock so they cannot walk on top of the spikes. just be warned that you'll give them more room the dodge you.
@ The same thing applies to the other wall you did on glass houses. I'd personally trap the very front of the stairs. walk a bit further into the drop zone then spike to basically guarantee a kill
Forgive me if you have already addressed this, I've heard widely heard that c00lkidd is the best killer (followed with a fair share of John Doe,) what makes you rank c00lkidd the same as Jason? A killer most people consider the worst? Cool vid btw👍
Lowest walk speed in the game, and no aura reading abilities. He’s got very strong chase but unless you have mobile aimbot you are in a stalemate sometimes and just can’t find survivors.
2:33 this is My personal humble opinion. One of his worst moves. in Situations It's one of his best if somebody Hits it. in Pursuit and it ok If somebody hits it. If you're not in chase but It's Annoying while you're in chase. And somebody randomly.Steps on it. Disable and Steps on it That's not the same person that you're chasing. It's horrible If somebody disables it while you're in chase with somebody else. And that person that you're chasing. Stuns you.
Stuns still work against john doe, in many of the places you showed where you blocked off a exit with spikes, someone like chance or hell even shedletsky can set you up to get hit by a guests charge into one of your own traps,wasting so much time
the tier list is mine and its just my opinion on where characters cap out when played at a high skill. Also with chance being buffed chance is just by far the strongest solo and team stunner with that causing the others to be moved down. I also helped with the first video and first tier list realistically even in the first video we didn't believe shedletsky was S tier but the tier list he wanted to make was a BEGINER FRIENDLY tierlist so like characters *a new player* could pick up and use who were both good AND easy.
I think that Jason should be a little higher. The only REAL issue with jason is his skill ceiling is very high compared to other killers. Jason is made to punish survivors for mistakes, like his enrage having full s and boosting damage of skills
@miguel_berto3 I guess. Two buildermen are all it takes though to make it impossible to kill anyone, especially if they don’t go on generators. I feel like they need to make generators mandatory in order for the survivors to win (unless it’s LMS)
The only problems i have whith him is how his stamina works He have the same stamina drain as the others while been slower so if you can't trap someone for a moment you will struggle a lot to even hit them because the second problem i have is obviously the hitbox that really doesn't help his slow speed Because i tried to play him a lot but its so hard to play him then you have your ability on cooldown that i gave up and play coolkid instead
Always try making sure you have more stamina than the person you’re chasing. Keep in mind when they sprint, and also keep in mind every 10 stamina is 1 second of sprint. It’s better to go for people that are closer to you and ignore players that are very far away. Distance is what makes killers weak
@@aure.. yup. Your trap secures kills, especially if they’re near you. Btw, you don’t have to chase the person that triggered your trap. If you’re chasing someone already, now you have a 10% speed boost. This killer is fairly complicated to understand but once you get into a rhythm you basically never lose (unless they loop you on mansion)
you LITERALLY just explain john doe abilities and not his WEAKNESSES his spikes take too long to use and loud as hell u are an easy stun for a shed or a even a guest (and IF u actually dont get stunned the survivors are already far away) he is the easiest to juke cuz of his terrible hitbox and his traps are very easy to avoid he has NO ABILITIES to catch up to any survivors sorry bro but i HAD to criticize u cuz john doe compared to jason c00lkid and 1x1 its not even an ARGUEMENT
Jason and Coolkid are DESIGNED to have quick chases. John is (as described at the beginning) a trapper and zoner. If you trigger any trap, or corner yourself in any way, you’re always dead to John. I was able to get the “Unlikely Winner Electric Boogaloo” with John Doe ON MY FIRST ATTEMPT. Even though he’s slightly slower, he has higher damage m1s and a move that invalidates stuns.
@@RetrosWave yea mid game ive started placing them if the survivor I just killed died in a convenient spot to plop one down, he plays very differently compared to coolkid or jason but I needa max level him next since I maxed out coolkid 😔
For the second glass houses trap, you can place it a little bit further down to the start of the staircase. It's very effective if paired with corrout energy when a survivor is up there, since they either have to walk onto digital footprint or be forced to juke you in a very small spot
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Putting noob at C tier is criminal, noob is made to survive and stall the killer, hes given 2 speed ups, 2 slateskins which stall the timer and help you refill ur stamina. The best ability by far he has is the ghostburger which you can use to avoid detection when ur the last person alive. As a noob main using ghostburger when John or 1x uses their seeking ability which they have a sound queue for can really mess them up in mid game since ghostburger only has a cooldown. Noob has nothing to stun the killer but he can help his allies by searching for medkits and colas since noob can escape the killers easier.
Also Jasons enrage ability makes him unable to be stunned which counters shedletsky and chance and makes his skills do more damage (for example gushing wounds does 50 dmg and with enrage it does 70) and his passive makes you sneak up on people easier. Jason isnt a B tier but that's just my opinion
Ironic how most people who argue a character is better than someone thinks also says “I main the character”. Listen I literally was forced to play Noob for my last video. He has the best LMS in the game but if he’s forced to use his abilities mid round it’ll kill him in the long run. Also depends on the map though of course
You can’t use enrage to counter stuns on reaction. You have to predict. You never wanna use enrage early because it’s the only utility to force a survivors stamina with Jason
@@RetrosWaveI just like jason because when your stamina runs out you can just continue chasing the person by getting a walkspeed buff and no other survivor can interfere with the chase by shooting you or using guests charge
Idk Why when i use corrupt energy after like the 7th-14th Spike the spike gets janky and stops following my camera direction, i found a way to fix it that is first use it backwards and then make the camera go to the target but is only to deal damage to survivors not for trapping players, any way to fix it?
Weird tier list, cool kid and 1x1 should switch places (many of 1x1’s abilities can be countered by experience players hugging walls and expecting the projectiles) and builder man should be in B tier, 7n7 C tier, and shedletsky A tier, other than that I agree with the list
1x4 has the best LMS in the game and has a much stronger kit than Coolkid in general. Builderman is overpowered as hell and people are just not good enough with him. 07 sucks. Shed is debatable but I’m comfortable with where he is. I’d say he’s equal to Guest in strength
@@RetrosWave Meh, I'd say shed is stronger than guest simply because it's a bit hard to block against experienced killers, and even if you do they can also try to dodge it if they are quick enough (happens to me a lot, they just see it coming like the matrix) Cool kid has a strong kit at rushing survivors down while 1x1 depends on hitting projectiles that are very easy to dodge while he's chasing you, kid you not I was playing builderman and ran from an experienced 1x1 for a minute and a half (dude was hard targetting me and destroyed my sentry at the begging and my team didn't help me) and I kept dodging his projectiles and conserving my stamina to live until he FINALLY hit entanglement on me when I was out of stam. I'd say builderman is good, but not great, no defensive utility if the killer swipes your sentry, can't do anything against John Doe as he not only one shots the sentry, but also blocks Builderman in, Builderman isn't exactly solely dependent on a good team, but he most likely won't survive without one.
@@RetrosWaveYorick Place sucks if the survivors actually use the house as the juke spot, otherwise they're either going through trapped bridges or get poisoned
PLZ I NEED HELP, ive beenasking so many people but none of then knoe ehats going on, the problem is that i cant see the auras of anybody AT ALL when i use a ability that shows auras. Not even on 1x1x1x1x does it shoe auras, if you can help please do
Anyone who says ck isn’t op doesn’t understand ck’s kit. Ck is the best killer, with corrupt nature being arguably the best ability in the game (tied with Elliot’s pizza). John Doe is just a freshie destroyer that annihilates new players so hard they go to discord to complain about it. Use your brain. Pay attention. John is not hard to counter.
@@Confusion-xf1hk ironically you said it backwards. Coolkid is easy to win against as long as you pay attention and play better, but John forces you into checkmate scenarios if they play well
As good and annoying as builderman is he is not S tier He is VERY reliant on the teammates he has and usually his teammates are 7 year-olds With elliot alot of people have that primal instinct to go for the pizza to heal themself so way more sentinels take priority in protecting elliot over builderman ao most of the time its like he doesn't even have teammates at all Personally it should be S:elliot A:Shed, chance, Builderman B:guest, noob C:007n7 D:... F: Two time For the killers i feel like people are underestimating jason He is at least A tier since there are some tricks you can do on him with raging pace being immune to stuns If you have good enough reaction time (easiest with chance, then guest and hardest with shed due to their windups) you can pop raging pace to ignore their stun and either use that to regain stamina in their endlag or use raging pace and deal 70 damage to them
I don’t play 007, but I’be seen enough 007 players to know placing him in the same tier as two time is disrespectful, two time benefits the team in zero way while 007 can atleast clone tank or trick the killer
@@struck5010 benefiting the team doesn’t make or break a character. Two Time has the best survivability in the game, and the only thing he struggles with is LMS. 07 is predictable and anyone with any experience against him will never fall for his shenanigans
@ I don’t agree personally with best survivability, shed and noob beat two time there if you have experience with either of them, both in team play and solo
@ also 007 has significantly better survivability even excluding clones entirely so no clone blocking, just knowing when to pop coolgui will keep you away from the killer until last survivor where you jus do it one more time and pop clone (jus for the undetectability) and hide for the entirety of last survivor
They’re still good in specific situations. Jason is good on small, closed maps (like Planet Voss). Noob is the best LMS in the game. Two Time had extreme survivability during normal rounds, letting him easily get to LMS. And there’s nothing for 07 really…I guess his coolgui is useful for LMS sometimes?
how is builderman s tier and shedletsky b all that builderman can do is place a easy to destroy slow and a small amount if healing shedletsky has the 2nd best stun and a self heal thats almost half his hp
The sentry applies 20% slowness. It’s like a stun without the stun. They’re forced to break the gun, and if they don’t you just loop it. If there’s multiple Buildermans the game is unwinnable if they play their cards right, but people just aren’t good enough at looping
I think he can work very well but unfortunately on PC he has no aura reading and sometimes it’s just impossible to win games. Also the aimbot on mobile def helps him but I feel like the mobile tier list would be so different lol
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The video was fire but the tier list at the end killed me ı disagree with everything other then Chance and Elliot and Twotime maybe. Builderman has literally no movement abilities or anything that can secure him. He just has jukes which isnt enough to survive.Elliot is love elliot is good elliot is stronk Guest should be A he isnt bad as B Shedletsky is definietly S tier He has 2 free 40 hp heals and a sword with the longest stun duration (4 seconds). Noob is B imo because if used well he is a really good survivor and if you didnt use your items till last stand You are gonna be a huge threat. 007n7 is not D if played well he can teleport out of sticky situations and the clone ability is really good for last stand he should be a solid A Twotime is eh he isnt finished so he gets a slide.1x1x1x1 is A but definietly not better then jason and c00lkidd . Jason S c00lkidd S 1x1x1x1 A John Doe B İf you get hit with da Average server ping your hitbox is gonna be behind you. And most his abilities are very counterable if you pay attention. Sorry for a 6 page essay ı yapped alot but if you read this thanks!
Builderman doesn’t need movement abilities when he has an ability that can slow the killer by 20% for an infinite amount of time so long as he doesn’t break it. Camping a sentry gun or looping it makes him insanely overpowered, people just aren’t smart enough to do it. And if critique the rest of what you said but you fit it all in one sentence and I CANNOT read that lol
@@RetrosWave Yeah ı know my bad lol but The sentry is easy to destroy and the killer can just ignore it and break it if you try to loop thanks for responding thought!
@@Qhare I'm my opnion, using shift lock as a killer or not is completly up to the person. If you struggle to hit survivors whit the lock on, don't use otherwise do use it. And i say in personal experience, i play as killers whiout the shift lock. The reason behind it? I'm a mobile player, hitting the slash/punch button to THEN turn my camera towards the survivor takes a bit too much time. And in most cases i just end up missing...
@Bruhman-qq8sx exactly. they’d be higher tier if it wasn’t for the fact they’re arguably worse against other characters, and you can’t put noob in the same tier as guest and shed
Kind of an insane survivor tier list, having chance above guest and shed is just wrong, placing the RNG sentinel above the two most consistent survivors in the game.. madhouse
Chance is extremely insane after the buffs. You use his gun as a support tool from across the map, you have 110 hp and 100 stamina, you can use his gun mid chase after the killer finally closes the distance…I mean there’s just so much chance can do, and if it wasn’t for the rng factor he’d be S tier lol
Builderman rolls Jason….like completely demolishes him. He’s also map dependent, but he’s not horrible otherwise I guess. It’s just unfortunate how little effort is required to make him suck
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@@RetrosWave But they just don't seem to understand that. The fact that a lot of people hate on you just because they didn't like your previous tier list is very ridiculous. At this point you shouldn't even try expressing your opinions on this or that, otherwise you're just attracting stupid people.
@@Its_Jake I’m doing tier lists for the views honestly. I’m not rage baiting or anything, it’s my honest opinion. People just don’t think outside the box. Or they played the character or saw bad players play them and didn’t like them so they assume they’re bad. Maybe I could play with one of em sometime and show em the light lol
My survivor tier list even though nobody asked S tier: elliot, shedletsky A tier: chance, guest B tier: noob C tier: 007n7, builderman D tier: two time (doesn’t even contribute to the team)
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Little tip for 3:52, instead of placing your trap all the way at the bottom, place it at the end of the staircase, because if you're in chase and somebody decides to run up the staircase (they won't see the trap at the bottom so they will most likely go there) they'll run into the trap (or be heavily deadzoned) and since you're in chase you got yourself a free kill!
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I think the best thing I learned/figured out about John Doe is that you are NOT supposed to use Corrupted Energy in chase, unless you’re trying to cut someone’s route off.
C00lkid and 1x4 have no problem using their projectiles mid chase for light/heavy damage, but JD can NOT get away with it, and it’ll give the survivor you’re after more than enough time to recharge their stamina and get a huge lead on you.
Just run them down, and try to herd them into a trap you’ve already set down, and if you HAVEN’T set a trap down, you can place one in a spot where they’re trying to loop you (like the castle ramp of Brandon Works) before just going back to chasing them.
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Exactly. He’s not entirely meant to chase, he’s more so for cornering survivors and preventing escape. The only reason his chase is viable even without abilities is because of Unbreakable, which only adds to the destruction once they trigger traps too lol
But sometimes I can use corrupted energy after an m1 if low on stamina, chances are the guy is also low and easier to pierce
Ace? What are you doing here? Go make another DWGV and go away D W E E B (joke)
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Something to note about the Horror Hotel trap placed near the hands is that survivors can negate the slowness effect by stepping in the hands, the hands give slowness 3 for 2 seconds, resetting the slowness, however, John Doe can still see you and will have the speed boost
fun fact, while 007n7 is in the d tier list, you can trick the killer without using clones if they actually know how to play as him, at some points pretending to be a clone to trick the killer
he still sucks to play as, but enough to put him at c tier
most of my wins came from 007n7 so i agree
I am max level with him and honestly he’s def underrated, and should be C minimum
True, ppl just suck@@Somoneyippe
Some people are also wayyy smarter, someone told me the chase music stops if you're chasing a clone, so it's easy to tell sometimes @AFunnyGuyFr
The reason why people think his m1s are small is because the hitbox is inside him while the others m1 hitbox is onfront
I didn’t know that. Explains a lot honestly lmfao
Is it intentional tho? I really hope they fix it in the next update so I don't have to literally be inside the survivor to land a hit
@@Yudonate it likely is…just smth to get used to. Turning on hitboxes really helps you land hits more consistently
Corrupted howdy be like: howdy, I’m going to John Howdy you.
Hi computer soul
O no bro
John Doe’s trump card for me is his ability to combo Corrupt Energy and Digital Footprint by trapping survivors in a short area and forcing them to run around, thus activating Digital Footprint which basically gives you a free kill.
In my experience, I agree. I play every killer based on who I feel like playing and have leveled every killer to at least level 50-except Jason, since I haven’t played him much. Even after the nerfs, John Doe still gives me the most consistent wins compared to any other killer.
I can take down competent players by chasing them until both of our stamina runs low, then using Spike and carefully aiming it at them. Most of the time, I use the Kai tech by looking away from the player and timing my hits, but this can be countered if they stay close enough to me to keep a safe distance from the hidden spikes. To counter this, I follow up with a second Spike attempt, mimicking the spike tech, but this time, I look directly at the player I’m chasing before the spikes launch. Since they tend to walk closer to me, the attack hits quickly, usually killing them before they even realize what’s happening.
Yorick's Resting Place there is an extra setup, there is a high place where is also a "Fountain"
1. Place trap at the start of the path to go to the high place
2. Use corrupt energy like you're gonna cut in two pieces the high place
3. Chase the player
3.1 if he goes to left, it will be trapped unless he takes poison damage
3.2 if he goes to right you will get an advantage in the chase by closing a looping spot
John Doe is my main, and I can say that these tips are essential for anyone who wants to start playing with him!
Some things I like to do as john doe is:
When regaining stamina mid chase, I set up a digital footprint next to a good spot, so later when in the chase, they have a chance to step into it.
this is why i love john doe, he is so good with traps
a combo i usually do is 404error then corrupt energy so i can see the survivors and hit them with it (mostly works)
For my 404 error part I said that combo!! Very useful in some situations
nice video I like it cuz it explains pretty well how to use john doe, btw about the tierlist, in my opinion jason and coolkid could easily be A tier or more if the player uses it correctly, I tried every single killer in the game and with coolkid all you have to do is corner people and it's basically a free kill, with jason is quite harder but using raging race in the right moments is basically a kill too
I keep winning a lot after this video
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Every John has their Doe.
And every Doe, their John.
Who up johnin' their doe rn
Doe is beating his john rn
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@@ryandootboi3747 every John Has their toe
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honestly i would swap shedletsky and chance in that tierlist, shedletsky not only can self heal but also defend himself more consistently than chance, and chance is easy to dodge because of his long windup
+ "you can learn skill but not luck"
-some dude in a forsaken server
Valid take. Also depends on the killer of course….not really sure where to put shed atp even after so many games with him
They’re all yours, Mr. Howdy.
it's all fun and games having your 21 day win streak as john doe till one of the survivors are martial artist
007, shedletsky, and noob should all move up a tier ngl
007 can trick the killer and people only think he sucks bc everyone uses the clone mid chase (which is not a good play)
Shedletsky has the most reliable stun as he doesn’t rely on rng or blocking a hit beforehand
Noob is super good at solo survival epically if you ttne ghost burger with last man standing
Agreed with Noob, his undetectable makes it highly impossible to detect with last stand, and he can use Blox early on to gain some distance before a chase.
I disagree with 07. He’s too predictable and counterable. But I’ve been playing a lot of Shed and I can understand that prospective. I think Guest and Shed are tied in the same place personally, because they both have their ups and downs. As for Noob, I think he’s great but I don’t think he’s viable in any part of the match except for end game, which makes him super selfish and unreliable
@ Hard Agree on that, but tell me:
How many times did you have a match againt a Pro Killer, when your team is made out of Noobs with no Elliot nor Builderman in sight?
Sometimes, you gotta be selfish to even SURVIVE.
@ if we're assuming the killer is anyone but coolkid then you're dead in lms regardless
@@RetrosWave you can learn from the killers patterns and pretend to be a clone yourself (I fooled a high level Jason with this one time)
Be warned at 5:52. Making it too close could let the survivor jump onto the spike and get past the wall. Keep a bit of distance atleast!
my goat
i haven’t actually played johnny the doe that much but once i did, and OH GOD WAS IT GOOD
i like the mix and match of phighting songs and other songs, it just makes me happy :D
Phighting is so peak
@@RetrosWave i just stopepd playing for some reason,im thinking of playing it again
TW: OPINIONS!!
I think that coolkid should be atleast A tier or even S tier because he is busted and has crazy potential if used in right hands. Sure his hitbox is the smallest (i think) but m1 speed makes up for that and not to mention that i think he has 2nd fastest walkspeed/sprint. And also about shedletsky..A tier or even S tier because he is really good as survivor. Stun (pro players or even abv avarage can counter bait killers with slash and heal is rlly good too. Imo last tierlist was better (as for survivors). Welp i think thats it so if you want to correct me go ahead! I would like to hear some opinions/facts or mistakes I did wrong. Good video btw
Coolkid actually has the slowest walk speed but has Jason run speed. The problem with Coolkid is how easy he is to stun and his lack of aura reading abilities. Hes extremely strong on mobile though because of the aimbot. Ignoring the aimbot, he’s viable, but def doesn’t compare to 1x4 and John
@@RetrosWave Oh wow i heard from my friends on discord server that it is one of the fastest ones. But on the stun part, yes I agree but again, expirienced players is a MENACE to the whole server. Overall all characters depends on player but overall i agree that coolkid might be weaker then John but not so on 1x1. The problem with 1x1 is the lack of vertical attacks so everyone can just go on the hill at the haunted mansion and camp there. Sure his R gives speedboost and overall his abbilities are really good but it can be countered easily but imo his m1's is one of the strongest by far. (sorry for yapping)
@@KamiXD1488 no worries about the yap and you’re right. 1x1 sucks on maps with verticality. However, if he manages to get a few kills, these maps are a lot easier to win on because of his zombies. They make camping and looping impossible sometimes, and they make lms so unfair.
ngl hes easy to juke, due to his small hitbox he should be B-A.
@SunHyperion if its coolkid who knows whats he doing then its not that easy but his insta hitting hitbox makes up for his small hitbox
It should be warned. If too CLOSE you can hop ovee the spikes on glass house for both set ups due to how much height both areas have
@@kakarotorgoku2481 yes sir. I was getting a little lazy at the end of the video and didn’t feel like redoing the wall
It's fine. I personally learned that con the hard way mid match. It's a little more managable to place a trap next to the door so you can expannd your distance from the building
@@kakarotorgoku2481 yeahhh sorryyyyy
5:50 to consistently get this setup point towards the farthest tree right (like 45 Grades)
It hurts a little bit to see 007 in tier d, I'm level 100 with him! Good video bro keep it up.
07 is extremely situational unfortunately and good killers never fall for his clone, but hey at least you can flex you’re level 100 with the weakest survivor in the game lol
@@RetrosWavewhy do you move Jason to B? :(
@@BaconPerish he’s very very weak against builderman and stuns. hes still very viable though
About that tierlist.
Noob is the strongest non-sentinal in the game by a long shot, hes like A tier imo.
Shedletsky is up there with chance.
007n7 is C. Hes not good but hes better than two time.
Builderman isnt S, its really easy to catch up with him.
Jason is the best killer in the game, due to his raging pace having I-frames at the start, allowing you to completly ignore stuns and come back with a harsh punish.
Noob is the best LMS in the game but that’s about it. Shedletsky is debatable for sure I can see that. 07 is the most awful character in the game with no redemption, I’m tired of arguing about 07. Builderman is INSANE with coordination. I’m probably gonna stream this weekend and I’ll show you some stuff with Builderman. Jason is debatably the worst killer in the game. He’s like the only character you can infinite over and over and over in some situations. That being said he’s still good…def not better than John though
@ Jason and builder man is fair. But i stand on Noob and 07. Noob can counter john does traps by activating ghost burger and stepping in them, making it so john doe doesn’t see where you are. he can also ignore 1x4s and john does aura reading moves. He can get minions off his tail and tank coolkidds pizza bots for his team, and cola activates lighting fast. The only move that is meh in his kit is slate skin, which still has its uses.
And 007n7 is great at lms and can activate john’s traps with his clones. He isn’t good i get that but he’s better than two time by a long shot.
oh yeah also i think shedletsky is the best sentinal in the game cause his stun doesnt require you to do anything to get it, unlike guest and chance. also he just has free healing
@@InvadingStatic could u add me on discord so we can talk about this? I’m on mobile so it’s constantly deleting my message while I’m trying to read what you’re saying lmfao. My discord is retroswave
@ sure ig,
6:00 this wall isn't really good as survivors can just walk on top of the spikes and easily escape john. what i would do instead is to go to the left side of the doorway near the dropzone. use your spikes and SLOWLY curve them using shiftlock so they cannot walk on top of the spikes. just be warned that you'll give them more room the dodge you.
Yeah I curved it a little too hard in the footage but I was too lazy to test it or do another take. But thank you for pointing that out lol
@ The same thing applies to the other wall you did on glass houses. I'd personally trap the very front of the stairs. walk a bit further into the drop zone then spike to basically guarantee a kill
not always, its chance based
Forgive me if you have already addressed this, I've heard widely heard that c00lkidd is the best killer (followed with a fair share of John Doe,) what makes you rank c00lkidd the same as Jason? A killer most people consider the worst?
Cool vid btw👍
Lowest walk speed in the game, and no aura reading abilities. He’s got very strong chase but unless you have mobile aimbot you are in a stalemate sometimes and just can’t find survivors.
idk why but hitting John does m1 s feels so much better than the others
1:36 a developer has stated in the discord (along with an image) that every monster hitbox is the same EXCEPT for coolkidd, who has a smaller hitbox
Really? I keep getting mixed signals. But I believe it cus honestly all the hitboxes feel the same
2:33 this is My personal humble opinion. One of his worst moves. in Situations It's one of his best if somebody Hits it. in Pursuit and it ok If somebody hits it. If you're not in chase but It's Annoying while you're in chase. And somebody randomly.Steps on it. Disable and Steps on it That's not the same person that you're chasing. It's horrible If somebody disables it while you're in chase with somebody else. And that person that you're chasing. Stuns you.
John doe does have a wacky hitbox on his m1s
Outside of that he's a pretty strong/hard to master killer
underrated fr
tysm
God tier tutorial
Tysm
Stuns still work against john doe, in many of the places you showed where you blocked off a exit with spikes, someone like chance or hell even shedletsky can set you up to get hit by a guests charge into one of your own traps,wasting so much time
Then be careful
I don’t think Two Time is D-Tier personally, but whatever ig
I main Two Time and I agree he’s really strong, but compared to the other survivors he’s just not as good.
what made shedletsky go down from S tier to B tier since your last video?
Maybe beacause of Jason since they literally gave him a parry as a killer
the tier list is mine and its just my opinion on where characters cap out when played at a high skill. Also with chance being buffed chance is just by far the strongest solo and team stunner with that causing the others to be moved down. I also helped with the first video and first tier list realistically even in the first video we didn't believe shedletsky was S tier but the tier list he wanted to make was a BEGINER FRIENDLY tierlist so like characters *a new player* could pick up and use who were both good AND easy.
2:11 he can do more damage per player (withnout weaknes). 48 damage isn`t maximum
it is the maximum
You can only do up to 48 damage on one player, but if there’s multiple players it’ll scale as high as it wants obviously lol
sorry I was wrong
@ it's okay!
He really is doeing out
I think that Jason should be a little higher. The only REAL issue with jason is his skill ceiling is very high compared to other killers. Jason is made to punish survivors for mistakes, like his enrage having full s and boosting damage of skills
@miguel_berto3 I guess. Two buildermen are all it takes though to make it impossible to kill anyone, especially if they don’t go on generators. I feel like they need to make generators mandatory in order for the survivors to win (unless it’s LMS)
1:38 just wait until so called "average server ping" walks in💀
s l o w y o u r s w i n g s d o w n
I love playing as john toe
The first ever skin that played as in Minecraft was fancy Steve
Yes sir! That’s what my avatar on Roblox is based off of lol
The only problems i have whith him is how his stamina works
He have the same stamina drain as the others while been slower so if you can't trap someone for a moment you will struggle a lot to even hit them because the second problem i have is obviously the hitbox that really doesn't help his slow speed
Because i tried to play him a lot but its so hard to play him then you have your ability on cooldown that i gave up and play coolkid instead
Always try making sure you have more stamina than the person you’re chasing. Keep in mind when they sprint, and also keep in mind every 10 stamina is 1 second of sprint. It’s better to go for people that are closer to you and ignore players that are very far away. Distance is what makes killers weak
@RetrosWave so I should try to almost play like a ambush killer and just trying to trap someone and going for the chase then I can be close enough?
@@aure.. yup. Your trap secures kills, especially if they’re near you. Btw, you don’t have to chase the person that triggered your trap. If you’re chasing someone already, now you have a 10% speed boost. This killer is fairly complicated to understand but once you get into a rhythm you basically never lose (unless they loop you on mansion)
John doe is so ironically good
you LITERALLY just explain john doe abilities and not his WEAKNESSES
his spikes take too long to use and loud as hell u are an easy stun for a shed or a even a guest (and IF u actually dont get stunned the survivors are already far away)
he is the easiest to juke cuz of his terrible hitbox and his traps are very easy to avoid
he has NO ABILITIES to catch up to any survivors
sorry bro but i HAD to criticize u cuz john doe compared to jason c00lkid and 1x1 its not even an ARGUEMENT
Jason and Coolkid are DESIGNED to have quick chases. John is (as described at the beginning) a trapper and zoner. If you trigger any trap, or corner yourself in any way, you’re always dead to John. I was able to get the “Unlikely Winner Electric Boogaloo” with John Doe ON MY FIRST ATTEMPT. Even though he’s slightly slower, he has higher damage m1s and a move that invalidates stuns.
personally john doe still feels clunky to play due to the fact you completely pause/drop chase to place traps
Place them at the beginning of the game or on the way to survivors. His traps are underused in my opinion and are VERY broken
@@RetrosWave yea mid game ive started placing them if the survivor I just killed died in a convenient spot to plop one down, he plays very differently compared to coolkid or jason but I needa max level him next since I maxed out coolkid 😔
1:31 1x1 has 31 damage, has the same hitbox as 1x1 and jason
That’s with DOT tho
@RetrosWave didn't you say in total
@ i probably did but whatever lmfao
For the second glass houses trap, you can place it a little bit further down to the start of the staircase. It's very effective if paired with corrout energy when a survivor is up there, since they either have to walk onto digital footprint or be forced to juke you in a very small spot
What is the Background Music?!
I don’t have access to my computer right now so I don’t have the specific names but the intro is Simian Segue, the middle and outro are PHIGHTING songs, and the song used in the montage thingy is from boogio. I’ll give ya the names once I’m home in a few days
Putting noob at C tier is criminal, noob is made to survive and stall the killer, hes given 2 speed ups, 2 slateskins which stall the timer and help you refill ur stamina. The best ability by far he has is the ghostburger which you can use to avoid detection when ur the last person alive. As a noob main using ghostburger when John or 1x uses their seeking ability which they have a sound queue for can really mess them up in mid game since ghostburger only has a cooldown. Noob has nothing to stun the killer but he can help his allies by searching for medkits and colas since noob can escape the killers easier.
Also Jasons enrage ability makes him unable to be stunned which counters shedletsky and chance and makes his skills do more damage (for example gushing wounds does 50 dmg and with enrage it does 70) and his passive makes you sneak up on people easier. Jason isnt a B tier but that's just my opinion
Ironic how most people who argue a character is better than someone thinks also says “I main the character”. Listen I literally was forced to play Noob for my last video. He has the best LMS in the game but if he’s forced to use his abilities mid round it’ll kill him in the long run. Also depends on the map though of course
You can’t use enrage to counter stuns on reaction. You have to predict. You never wanna use enrage early because it’s the only utility to force a survivors stamina with Jason
yeah like yoricks resting place map against someone like John noob cant really do anything since that map gives killers a huge advantage in chases
@@RetrosWaveI just like jason because when your stamina runs out you can just continue chasing the person by getting a walkspeed buff and no other survivor can interfere with the chase by shooting you or using guests charge
Idk Why when i use corrupt energy after like the 7th-14th Spike the spike gets janky and stops following my camera direction, i found a way to fix it that is first use it backwards and then make the camera go to the target but is only to deal damage to survivors not for trapping players, any way to fix it?
It could just be you’re looking away too quickly
@@RetrosWave i tried and still got janky
@@Astro_hungaro idk man
@@RetrosWave i discovered why (Screen Shake) in first Person gets janky because the screen shake but in third person doens't get janky
@ ah i see
@Howdy how may times have you heard "3 STOMPS THIS TIME!!!" In the making of this video?
I actually heard the “IM MAD AND IM STOMPING MY FOOT!” the most lmfao
@@RetrosWave lol
peak
Weird tier list, cool kid and 1x1 should switch places (many of 1x1’s abilities can be countered by experience players hugging walls and expecting the projectiles) and builder man should be in B tier, 7n7 C tier, and shedletsky A tier, other than that I agree with the list
1x4 has the best LMS in the game and has a much stronger kit than Coolkid in general. Builderman is overpowered as hell and people are just not good enough with him. 07 sucks. Shed is debatable but I’m comfortable with where he is. I’d say he’s equal to Guest in strength
@@RetrosWave Meh, I'd say shed is stronger than guest simply because it's a bit hard to block against experienced killers, and even if you do they can also try to dodge it if they are quick enough (happens to me a lot, they just see it coming like the matrix) Cool kid has a strong kit at rushing survivors down while 1x1 depends on hitting projectiles that are very easy to dodge while he's chasing you, kid you not I was playing builderman and ran from an experienced 1x1 for a minute and a half (dude was hard targetting me and destroyed my sentry at the begging and my team didn't help me) and I kept dodging his projectiles and conserving my stamina to live until he FINALLY hit entanglement on me when I was out of stam. I'd say builderman is good, but not great, no defensive utility if the killer swipes your sentry, can't do anything against John Doe as he not only one shots the sentry, but also blocks Builderman in, Builderman isn't exactly solely dependent on a good team, but he most likely won't survive without one.
@@pdcdino I plan on making a video on Builderman but I’m making a Jason one next. Stay tuned!
@ Will do
How to play as john doe
Glass house = win
Any other map = lose
I disagree…the only map that’s bad for John is Yoricks Resting Place and even then it’s winnable
@@RetrosWaveYorick Place sucks if the survivors actually use the house as the juke spot, otherwise they're either going through trapped bridges or get poisoned
@ yeah i know. And that goes for literally every killer. That map is awful as killer
2:52 this isnt really true in most of my gameplay, i mostly juke the john doe out for the 15 seconds until the slowness is gone
Fight a competent john doe then talk
@ i have already done that, even against yourself skins
@@kawfeelovrthe yourself skin does NOT mean good
@ i do know that, but most of the yourself skins i have met are pretty competent
coolkid is honestly s tier man
@@IzeEdits that’s just not true
PLZ I NEED HELP, ive beenasking so many people but none of then knoe ehats going on, the problem is that i cant see the auras of anybody AT ALL when i use a ability that shows auras. Not even on 1x1x1x1x does it shoe auras, if you can help please do
@Taiiul I believe there’s a setting in game to toggle auras or something. If you want you can add me on discord and screenshare and I’ll try to help
Anyone who says ck isn’t op doesn’t understand ck’s kit. Ck is the best killer, with corrupt nature being arguably the best ability in the game (tied with Elliot’s pizza). John Doe is just a freshie destroyer that annihilates new players so hard they go to discord to complain about it. Use your brain. Pay attention. John is not hard to counter.
@@Confusion-xf1hk ironically you said it backwards. Coolkid is easy to win against as long as you pay attention and play better, but John forces you into checkmate scenarios if they play well
6:02 i use to do that too but survivor just sprint and hop over it 😢
wow i sure do hate it when the survivors i fight can jump
Sorry man I placed it too close in the video. Try curving it further next time
As good and annoying as builderman is he is not S tier
He is VERY reliant on the teammates he has and usually his teammates are 7 year-olds
With elliot alot of people have that primal instinct to go for the pizza to heal themself so way more sentinels take priority in protecting elliot over builderman ao most of the time its like he doesn't even have teammates at all
Personally it should be S:elliot
A:Shed, chance, Builderman
B:guest, noob
C:007n7
D:...
F: Two time
For the killers i feel like people are underestimating jason
He is at least A tier since there are some tricks you can do on him with raging pace being immune to stuns
If you have good enough reaction time (easiest with chance, then guest and hardest with shed due to their windups) you can pop raging pace to ignore their stun and either use that to regain stamina in their endlag or use raging pace and deal 70 damage to them
Now make a guide on how to counter mansion camp for all braindead survivors letting their teammate die in graveyard to save up a minute
Sorry man this is smth I can’t help with. Mansion is broken ;(
@RetrosWave well as Jason prob you are cooked, coolkidd use minions, 1x1x1x1 is ranged and john doe spikes
And he somehow still needs more stamina...
naw
I don’t play 007, but I’be seen enough 007 players to know placing him in the same tier as two time is disrespectful, two time benefits the team in zero way while 007 can atleast clone tank or trick the killer
@@struck5010 benefiting the team doesn’t make or break a character. Two Time has the best survivability in the game, and the only thing he struggles with is LMS. 07 is predictable and anyone with any experience against him will never fall for his shenanigans
@ I don’t agree personally with best survivability, shed and noob beat two time there if you have experience with either of them, both in team play and solo
@ also 007 has significantly better survivability even excluding clones entirely so no clone blocking, just knowing when to pop coolgui will keep you away from the killer until last survivor where you jus do it one more time and pop clone (jus for the undetectability) and hide for the entirety of last survivor
@@struck5010 I guess but he’s the worst survivor in the game when it comes to getting chased and at some point he can’t avoid that
@@RetrosWave fair but I still think they shouldn’t be the same tier, if I ranked em I’d keep 007 at D and move two time down to F
Its sad that Jason,Noob,Two Time, and 007n7 is that low in the tier.
they are my main and i got no issues with them.
They’re still good in specific situations. Jason is good on small, closed maps (like Planet Voss). Noob is the best LMS in the game. Two Time had extreme survivability during normal rounds, letting him easily get to LMS. And there’s nothing for 07 really…I guess his coolgui is useful for LMS sometimes?
This does make John Doe extremely good but 1x is still the best imo, 1x is a free win tbh
Some maps are completely unwinnable for 1x. Otherwise I’d agree
how is builderman s tier and shedletsky b all that builderman can do is place a easy to destroy slow and a small amount if healing shedletsky has the 2nd best stun and a self heal thats almost half his hp
The sentry applies 20% slowness. It’s like a stun without the stun. They’re forced to break the gun, and if they don’t you just loop it. If there’s multiple Buildermans the game is unwinnable if they play their cards right, but people just aren’t good enough at looping
do the traps ever despawn?
i think they do after a long time...like maybe 2 mins idk. u also can only place up to 3 im p sure
did i just see builderman in S tier 😭
@ashey173 I’ll make a video on it in a few weeks
@@RetrosWave fair play then
C00lkidd is a situational a tier.
I think he can work very well but unfortunately on PC he has no aura reading and sometimes it’s just impossible to win games. Also the aimbot on mobile def helps him but I feel like the mobile tier list would be so different lol
@RetrosWave fo sho
Guys what's the best survivor for mobile players that lag?
@@SillyFemboy21 Ironically probably something like 07 because you’d look like the clone lmfao. But otherwise probably builderman, noob, and two time
yo howdy i know your the forsaken guy but i feel like you would do really well if you made a similar series on other games like forsaken and pillar chase 2 📿
im personally not a fan of pillar chase 2 but if there's other games you recommend i'll be down to try em
@@RetrosWave Erm do Dandy's world (Don't, with a side of reverse psychology)
His 3 ability is good, but it takes a little bit time to place it, i dont really like it
The video was fire but the tier list at the end killed me ı disagree with everything other then Chance and Elliot and Twotime maybe. Builderman has literally no movement abilities or anything that can secure him. He just has jukes which isnt enough to survive.Elliot is love elliot is good elliot is stronk Guest should be A he isnt bad as B Shedletsky is definietly S tier He has 2 free 40 hp heals and a sword with the longest stun duration (4 seconds). Noob is B imo because if used well he is a really good survivor and if you didnt use your items till last stand You are gonna be a huge threat. 007n7 is not D if played well he can teleport out of sticky situations and the clone ability is really good for last stand he should be a solid A Twotime is eh he isnt finished so he gets a slide.1x1x1x1 is A but definietly not better then jason and c00lkidd . Jason S c00lkidd S 1x1x1x1 A John Doe B İf you get hit with da Average server ping your hitbox is gonna be behind you. And most his abilities are very counterable if you pay attention. Sorry for a 6 page essay ı yapped alot but if you read this thanks!
Builderman doesn’t need movement abilities when he has an ability that can slow the killer by 20% for an infinite amount of time so long as he doesn’t break it. Camping a sentry gun or looping it makes him insanely overpowered, people just aren’t smart enough to do it. And if critique the rest of what you said but you fit it all in one sentence and I CANNOT read that lol
@@RetrosWave Yeah ı know my bad lol but The sentry is easy to destroy and the killer can just ignore it and break it if you try to loop thanks for responding thought!
thank you you made me play better as him
I’m glad!
Can you do Jason?
first come first serve! i'll work on a jason video soon
@RetrosWave oh thanks:D
but what if your very good at dodging 2:56
That’s just a skill issue on the killers part
as a mobile c00lkidd I agree for pc users mobile users get aimbot
elliot’s make me wanna quit playing john
Focus Elliots first! Try and sneak up on em or force them to trigger traps for free kills
Jason in B tier...
Builderman moment
Just one tip: don't use shift lock
why? I get it in survivors but in killerd?
@@Qhare I'm my opnion, using shift lock as a killer or not is completly up to the person. If you struggle to hit survivors whit the lock on, don't use otherwise do use it. And i say in personal experience, i play as killers whiout the shift lock. The reason behind it? I'm a mobile player, hitting the slash/punch button to THEN turn my camera towards the survivor takes a bit too much time. And in most cases i just end up missing...
@@hayato...4292 bros a coolkid main
@hayato...4292 i also use mobile and use shiftlock, i get a fair amount of killer matches
It’s just preference tbh
I think personally Jason is better then 1x1 and that guest/shed should be a and noob should be raised to B
But I see guest and shed being B tier if they are vs a John Doe but against like cool kid and josh guest and shed are atleast A tier
@Bruhman-qq8sx exactly. they’d be higher tier if it wasn’t for the fact they’re arguably worse against other characters, and you can’t put noob in the same tier as guest and shed
Kind of an insane survivor tier list, having chance above guest and shed is just wrong, placing the RNG sentinel above the two most consistent survivors in the game.. madhouse
Chance is extremely insane after the buffs. You use his gun as a support tool from across the map, you have 110 hp and 100 stamina, you can use his gun mid chase after the killer finally closes the distance…I mean there’s just so much chance can do, and if it wasn’t for the rng factor he’d be S tier lol
Я пришел в роблокс деградировать, а не думать. КАКОГО ЧЕРТА.
The only thing i dont agree with is jason being B tier
Builderman rolls Jason….like completely demolishes him. He’s also map dependent, but he’s not horrible otherwise I guess. It’s just unfortunate how little effort is required to make him suck
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guys i think he hates claw hitbox
EMBRACE THE JOHNS
i hate this guy named howdymcshuffle hes so weird 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@Eyed_0 :(
tierlist has to be ragebait
@@realguestsarenice what’s your tier list?
@RetrosWave ill send it after school
@@realguestsarenice alr
@@RetrosWave can u send me the tierlist u used?
@@realguestsarenice like the image on discord?
people just dont seem to understand that it is just an opinion.
People can have their opinions! I’ll gladly explain every time why John Doe is overpowered lol
@@RetrosWave But they just don't seem to understand that. The fact that a lot of people hate on you just because they didn't like your previous tier list is very ridiculous. At this point you shouldn't even try expressing your opinions on this or that, otherwise you're just attracting stupid people.
@@Its_Jake I’m doing tier lists for the views honestly. I’m not rage baiting or anything, it’s my honest opinion. People just don’t think outside the box. Or they played the character or saw bad players play them and didn’t like them so they assume they’re bad. Maybe I could play with one of em sometime and show em the light lol
@RetrosWave Idk at this point, those people are just unbelievably ridiculous.
never make a tier list again
@@PinsFlam Dw I’ll be making videos on all these characters just to prove it
obvious rage bait with that tier list
if you wanna see it that way okay sure
I gotta know your tier list now lmfao
The only thing I find strange is 007n7 being same as twotime, but I would but him in C so it's not a big deal.
My survivor tier list even though nobody asked
S tier: elliot, shedletsky
A tier: chance, guest
B tier: noob
C tier: 007n7, builderman
D tier: two time (doesn’t even contribute to the team)
Also how did you even get builderman to s tier he a @ss survivor in chases
I think COOLKID is wayyy better than john
@@Successfullyafailure people can have wrong opinions
@RetrosWave yeah btw w vid
@@Successfullyafailure tyvm
this tierlist lowkey ass vruh 😭😭
What’s yours? Lmfao
Shedletsky is an S tier survivor.. why is he at B? do you have discord??
Still nead to learn a lot of things, like really. It worth maximum A (in my opinion)
Who put my glorious king OO7N7 in d tier, with some experience you will never lose (level 100)
that’s just…not true