I like that you threw in your wife's hobby. It really makes you consider the people you are watching are just like us. You are a normal person with normal things outside of your UA-cam channel...
This is a cool addition to the market. I was actually heavily considering buying an SV06 Plus and Klipperizing it a while ago. I'm sure they will release an SV06 Plus ACE soon. It's a well designed printer for the money with a lot of smart choices compared to many cheap bed slingers. I can't say it would be my first recommendation still with how many affordable options there are, but once they release the Plus model the value for the size and capability should be awesome.
there was post int he sovol discord channel with FTC (I think it was) filing with both sv06 ACE and SV06plus ACE, I like this upgrade but also would prefer the plus side build volume
Layer shift may have been caused by the print warping slightly or a filament glob and the nozzle hitting it and causing the motor to skip. All I can think of really. I'd be interested to see slower speeds with input shaper tuning and how high the quality can go compared to a similar profile on an A1 for example. Maybe a community post? Just a thought.
Great video as always! Thank you for your work and details. This is the only 3D printing channel I still follow, facts without nonsense. Wish you all the best! My suggestion or wish for 3D printer reviews would be to include a few words what this printer is suitable for. Like printer farm, first printer, #2 printer for non ams friendly filaments etc. I think when you review a printer you always get a feeling who it is for - and its not always clear from the video.
Great review. I have the standard SV06 and I can see how this is an improvement over it it pretty much every way. Though no quite standby mode is a tad dissapointing
Did you do the auto-vibration and input shaping tuning? Comparing to a different SV06 ACE video I watched most of their problems went away after doing the auto vibration/input shaping run.
Seems like a great printer. The SV06 was already very nice, but I would have to klipper it myself. This comes already with klipper. Only needs some tweaks in the config and printing profile, but nothing major. The one thing I am not a fan of, is the fan/duct-placement at the front. I want to have a clear view on the nozzle while printing. This was already the same with the SV06. It didn't take long however to get some really nice fanduct-mods in thingyverse, printables, etc. Hope it will be the same here. Otherwise I like it more than the MK4. Looks like it should be easy to maintain and easy to mod. I'd also prefer it over the Bambulab A1, because it's open source.
sovol sells a klipper kit for sv06. you can buy the sv06+ klipper combo for 240$ rights now. It still lucks the cooling solution though to keep up with klipper speeds. And this this has been beefed up to many other parts...
That printer is nice because it runs Klipper and Sovol should release both the software and the step files for modifications. Also I think that the toolhead is running on a proper CAN bus. It would be nice to see the graph from input shaping with this kind of printers, to get an idea of how good are the cinematic. Also if you don't trust the 20k accel run the TEST_SPEED macro and see if it actually manages to do 20k or what.
this is what i'm also interested in - i run danger-klipper bleeding-edge-v2 on my 06 plus and would never go back. hated the locked down klipper screen.
Lets see a input shaper test comparing against their claims and the original 06+ using the same mounting methods. I wonder what the difference would look like.
I would like to see a more detailed comparison between the SV06 / SV06 Plus / SV06 ACE tool heads. Are the nozzles on the ACE the same as either of the previous iterations? It's doing nozzle probing now? Sovol is claiming MK4S-like performance, how does its cooling solution work, how does its Scandic plate test look like? I wonder what the tool head board looks like, is it the same as on the SV08? Are there any available fan ports that could be used for the power supply and electronics fans in order to control them with Klipper?
How did you find the featrues on this Klipper version? Have you used the older, separately sold Klipper screen from Sovol? I have SV06+ w/ Sovol's klipper and I was very disappointed with it. I expected to get a unit that works out of the box reliably and comes with at least some basic features - but it didn't, It was very bare bones. Thing's like one click to eject filament, or to position and heat extruder for nozzle swap, I've had to do code myself or source elsewhere. It has also stopped working for no apparent reason, or after installing some updates. I've had to spent hours googling how to solve them. So I'm wondering if they've improved on the software side.
I have the exact same setup, SV06 Plus & Sovol Klipper Screen and have owned it for a year now. My experience with it is that on the software side I haven't had any problems, and it came with ready made macros like Load filament, Unload filament and a bunch of others that I really haven't used. I have not tried to update Klipper in it yet - I probably will because I want adaptive meshing which the new Klipper versions include (previously known as KAMP). But I have had problems with the bed. A large chunk from one corner of it was never level, and also from the very first print when the Y axis moved all the way back it would grind loudly on one of the linear rods, and after about 10 hours of use there was visible scratch marks on it. Lubricating bearings didn't help nor did purchasing new high quality Brozzl bearings (they did reduce bearing noise in all axis though). Increasing microsteps on the Y stepper from 16 to 32 helped a little bit but did not solve it. Sovol support instructed me to tighten the top frame screws and measure the bed itself for warpage - there was some and they sent me a new bed. It did not help. Only after some time tinkering and swearing I found out that the black steel plate that holds the bed bearings and the plate itself was warped from one side up to 0.7mm, and that was the exact side which kept grinding. I was able to somewhat twist the plate back to some kind of a state of horizontalness, but it's still not good, and I still had to use silicon spacers between the plate and the bed and painstakingly level it with the tightening screws. Unfortunately it seems that platet is not available as spare, although I have not contacted Sovol about it. Frankly getting a bit fed up with the whole machine and I've been thinking of getting a Voron or a Ratrig at 300x300mm size...
17:42 much cheaper than the A1? Sure the A1 is on sale at the moment, and was on sale a couple of months ago. It seems to regularly be on sale for roughly 300€ which is probably less than this, $299 US usually ends up being more than 300€ in Europe despite euros being worth more.
These are two printers for different consumers, A1 for those who just want to print, SV06 ACE for those who want to improve it, modify it and have open firmware.
@@billy.the.maker.As I wrote "despite euros being worth more". Doesn't matter, everything almost always costs more in euros than dollars. At the best they might be the same. It will never be a straight conversion from one currency to the other.
Hey Igor, A1 only costs 299€ now on sale. Whats the price of SV06 ACE? Sorry but as the Bambu printers get cheaper and cheaper with every sale i don‘t see the need for buying other printers.. especially with the exceptional print and build quality. Thanks for the review!
If price is the only concern, buy Bambu. If Bambu and drives other manufacturers out of business, the users/customers will be screwed in the long term.
Oh, I didn't know about the price drop. I am sure that Sovol will try to go below that price too (only then this printer has sense). Size is also on the advantage of A1.
@@TheChriss1301 Bambu is hard to beat with their sale-price. However if this one is 300€ regularly I'd prefer it even over the discounted A1. The SV06 ACE is open source and already klippered. Also it's easy to mod, but still good out of the box. Also I think it might be easier to maintain. Bambu is good out of the box (probably even a bit better than the SV06 ACE), but it's a proprietary closed system.
Can you test some filaments from Jabil like 4535 which is 40% carbon fiber with nylon highest carbon fiber filament made and they have another which is 35% carbon fiber so the two filaments with the most fiber of carbon reinforcement made I hope so I would like to buy some soon but would like someone like you tj review it to get real world expectations before so since it's $110 a roll
my SV06 sucked. I was able to print maybe 12 prints, the bed was horribly warped. They sent a new, and a new bed censor, but I bought a Bambu P1P, later converted to P1S and haven’t looked back.
I like that you threw in your wife's hobby. It really makes you consider the people you are watching are just like us. You are a normal person with normal things outside of your UA-cam channel...
This is a cool addition to the market. I was actually heavily considering buying an SV06 Plus and Klipperizing it a while ago. I'm sure they will release an SV06 Plus ACE soon. It's a well designed printer for the money with a lot of smart choices compared to many cheap bed slingers. I can't say it would be my first recommendation still with how many affordable options there are, but once they release the Plus model the value for the size and capability should be awesome.
there was post int he sovol discord channel with FTC (I think it was) filing with both sv06 ACE and SV06plus ACE, I like this upgrade but also would prefer the plus side build volume
Hell yeah, will wait for the ace plus and buy an A1 instead now.
Thank you Igor, I appreciate your time and effort to provide accurate reviews. Cheers
Layer shift may have been caused by the print warping slightly or a filament glob and the nozzle hitting it and causing the motor to skip. All I can think of really. I'd be interested to see slower speeds with input shaper tuning and how high the quality can go compared to a similar profile on an A1 for example. Maybe a community post? Just a thought.
Great video as always! Thank you for your work and details. This is the only 3D printing channel I still follow, facts without nonsense. Wish you all the best!
My suggestion or wish for 3D printer reviews would be to include a few words what this printer is suitable for. Like printer farm, first printer, #2 printer for non ams friendly filaments etc. I think when you review a printer you always get a feeling who it is for - and its not always clear from the video.
Why is the normal (slower) profile used with the MK4 rather than the newer and faster Input shaping profile?
Great review. I have the standard SV06 and I can see how this is an improvement over it it pretty much every way. Though no quite standby mode is a tad dissapointing
Not a word about the nozzles, a big omission
Agree. Need nozzle information.
Did you do the auto-vibration and input shaping tuning? Comparing to a different SV06 ACE video I watched most of their problems went away after doing the auto vibration/input shaping run.
Thanks for the review... that layer fan looks interesting, what size is it?
Seems like a great printer.
The SV06 was already very nice, but I would have to klipper it myself.
This comes already with klipper. Only needs some tweaks in the config and printing profile, but nothing major.
The one thing I am not a fan of, is the fan/duct-placement at the front.
I want to have a clear view on the nozzle while printing.
This was already the same with the SV06. It didn't take long however to get some really nice fanduct-mods in thingyverse, printables, etc. Hope it will be the same here.
Otherwise I like it more than the MK4.
Looks like it should be easy to maintain and easy to mod.
I'd also prefer it over the Bambulab A1, because it's open source.
sovol sells a klipper kit for sv06. you can buy the sv06+ klipper combo for 240$ rights now. It still lucks the cooling solution though to keep up with klipper speeds. And this this has been beefed up to many other parts...
Does it use 0.9deg steppers or typical 1.8deg?
That printer is nice because it runs Klipper and Sovol should release both the software and the step files for modifications.
Also I think that the toolhead is running on a proper CAN bus.
It would be nice to see the graph from input shaping with this kind of printers, to get an idea of how good are the cinematic. Also if you don't trust the 20k accel run the TEST_SPEED macro and see if it actually manages to do 20k or what.
Sovol did release the software and step files on GitHub.
did you install crownset for usb camera?
Do you think it would be possible to get that klipper interface on my klipperized sv06?
Is it real klipper or a fork from sovol (which is stupid)?
this is what i'm also interested in - i run danger-klipper bleeding-edge-v2 on my 06 plus and would never go back. hated the locked down klipper screen.
@@cody4417 I also have a klipperscreen. And still no updates. It is dissapointing.
How is the bed leveling working? What kind of sensing does it use?
Lets see a input shaper test comparing against their claims and the original 06+ using the same mounting methods. I wonder what the difference would look like.
Out of curiosity, were the filaments dried out before printing?
I wonder if all the changes mean they can't have an upgrade kit. It would be cool if they did though, like Prusa.
Hi. Thanks for sharing. What is the method your use to make filament calibration (little filament tower). Thanks
Hi! Thanks for this review! One question: Is Obico and everything that can be done with it free on this printer or are there follow-up costs? TIA
I would like to see a more detailed comparison between the SV06 / SV06 Plus / SV06 ACE tool heads.
Are the nozzles on the ACE the same as either of the previous iterations?
It's doing nozzle probing now?
Sovol is claiming MK4S-like performance, how does its cooling solution work, how does its Scandic plate test look like?
I wonder what the tool head board looks like, is it the same as on the SV08?
Are there any available fan ports that could be used for the power supply and electronics fans in order to control them with Klipper?
How did you find the featrues on this Klipper version? Have you used the older, separately sold Klipper screen from Sovol?
I have SV06+ w/ Sovol's klipper and I was very disappointed with it. I expected to get a unit that works out of the box reliably and comes with at least some basic features - but it didn't, It was very bare bones. Thing's like one click to eject filament, or to position and heat extruder for nozzle swap, I've had to do code myself or source elsewhere. It has also stopped working for no apparent reason, or after installing some updates. I've had to spent hours googling how to solve them. So I'm wondering if they've improved on the software side.
I have the exact same setup, SV06 Plus & Sovol Klipper Screen and have owned it for a year now. My experience with it is that on the software side I haven't had any problems, and it came with ready made macros like Load filament, Unload filament and a bunch of others that I really haven't used. I have not tried to update Klipper in it yet - I probably will because I want adaptive meshing which the new Klipper versions include (previously known as KAMP).
But I have had problems with the bed. A large chunk from one corner of it was never level, and also from the very first print when the Y axis moved all the way back it would grind loudly on one of the linear rods, and after about 10 hours of use there was visible scratch marks on it. Lubricating bearings didn't help nor did purchasing new high quality Brozzl bearings (they did reduce bearing noise in all axis though). Increasing microsteps on the Y stepper from 16 to 32 helped a little bit but did not solve it.
Sovol support instructed me to tighten the top frame screws and measure the bed itself for warpage - there was some and they sent me a new bed. It did not help. Only after some time tinkering and swearing I found out that the black steel plate that holds the bed bearings and the plate itself was warped from one side up to 0.7mm, and that was the exact side which kept grinding. I was able to somewhat twist the plate back to some kind of a state of horizontalness, but it's still not good, and I still had to use silicon spacers between the plate and the bed and painstakingly level it with the tightening screws.
Unfortunately it seems that platet is not available as spare, although I have not contacted Sovol about it. Frankly getting a bit fed up with the whole machine and I've been thinking of getting a Voron or a Ratrig at 300x300mm size...
Nice printer, @sovol please take look on the fan noise! Or provide upgrade kit for silent Fans!
17:42 much cheaper than the A1? Sure the A1 is on sale at the moment, and was on sale a couple of months ago. It seems to regularly be on sale for roughly 300€ which is probably less than this, $299 US usually ends up being more than 300€ in Europe despite euros being worth more.
These are two printers for different consumers, A1 for those who just want to print, SV06 ACE for those who want to improve it, modify it and have open firmware.
300euro is 326,42$....
@@billy.the.maker.As I wrote "despite euros being worth more". Doesn't matter, everything almost always costs more in euros than dollars. At the best they might be the same. It will never be a straight conversion from one currency to the other.
Where can I get print profiles for this printer?
16:36 Could be wet filament.
Or maybe the filament is too thick, so you got overextrusion.
Hey Igor,
A1 only costs 299€ now on sale.
Whats the price of SV06 ACE?
Sorry but as the Bambu printers get cheaper and cheaper with every sale i don‘t see the need for buying other printers.. especially with the exceptional print and build quality.
Thanks for the review!
If price is the only concern, buy Bambu. If Bambu and drives other manufacturers out of business, the users/customers will be screwed in the long term.
Its the price to performance and build quality for me.
Oh, I didn't know about the price drop. I am sure that Sovol will try to go below that price too (only then this printer has sense). Size is also on the advantage of A1.
@@TheChriss1301 Bambu is hard to beat with their sale-price.
However if this one is 300€ regularly I'd prefer it even over the discounted A1.
The SV06 ACE is open source and already klippered. Also it's easy to mod, but still good out of the box. Also I think it might be easier to maintain.
Bambu is good out of the box (probably even a bit better than the SV06 ACE), but it's a proprietary closed system.
@@MyTechFun It's just a sale.
Price will go back higher after that.
looks the blue filament wasnt that dry as should be.
Can you test some filaments from Jabil like 4535 which is 40% carbon fiber with nylon highest carbon fiber filament made and they have another which is 35% carbon fiber so the two filaments with the most fiber of carbon reinforcement made I hope so I would like to buy some soon but would like someone like you tj review it to get real world expectations before so since it's $110 a roll
Disappointing they move away from linear rods for the x axis. I know those rollers are better than vrollers but I'm dubious of them.
he recorded part of this video just today.
Ask me how do I know that.
How do you know?
layer shit is due belt jump out for a sec due too fast acceleration
there is no way to so fast as core xy...súd to bed moving
The Mk4 isn't really open source, the Mk4s was more so and the sv06 was abused 9n the mk3s
my SV06 sucked. I was able to print maybe 12 prints, the bed was horribly warped. They sent a new, and a new bed censor, but I bought a Bambu P1P, later converted to P1S and haven’t looked back.
Is Sovol offering an upgrade path for the Ace from their original?