Bob Ross ... is he CRINGE painter? 🧑🎨
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2020
- Artist ShawNshawN reacts to Bob Ross, 70s TV painter.
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Have you painted with Bob Ross?
Yes my art teacher was very annoying and indecisive and I was bob ross by pure chance on netflix last year and now painting is my favorite hobby and I love it, it's what I do in my free time and it makes me happy
Yes he's very inspiring to just get out there and experiment with the paint without all the pretense of perfect painting Snaesi.
No I havent because I know that If I do its going to look horrible 😂
Yes
@@yourmother8551 terrible is just a step in the process of getting good. But to get good, you have to stay determined.
Bob Ross and the word cringe do NOT belong in the same sentence
fair enough, but its just click bait ;)
@@ShawNshawN No, don’t click bait. That’s just wrong. Now I don’t want to watch the video at all.
Okay...others may have talent...but Bob Ross will be relevant forever. We watch it as much for his calmness as his immense talent.
And he tries to walk you through it......I had a college professor , a Vietnam Vet....who was of the same manner. We had more time...because we would be able to drift after hours time. But he would try to help you with mechanics.....and teach you.
Yes the calm voice made the series and made him a classic TV painter of all time in my opinion
Me too, helps with anxiety
Bob Ross is a National Tresure! He was a real inspirational Human. Anyone that has anything negative to say about Bob is a true NON talent.. Some of Bob's originals are selling in 2024 for over 6 figures. I am sure that Bob would tell you today that he would rather be known for being a fantastic Human over a fantastic Painter any day.
Ya all the artists I know look up to Bob Ross as one of their first inspirations to start painting. It was one of the first "painting tutorials" out on the market.
Bob Ross relevance= FOREVER
UA-camr of any kind relevance= 5 years max!!
yes. UA-cam is ruthless at people losing passion to do it and/or getting out of tune with their audience
@@ShawNshawNI think this video achieved that for you.
Totally agree, Shawn is just full of jealousy and envy, its pathetic!
What Bob Ross gave to the non artist was the courage to pick up the brush and try. You said your professor said his subjects were tacky, what about his? Ross simply pushed people to try with no condemnation. As he famously said, there's only "Happy Accident".
Well the title is in jest. Obviously, Bob had a huge impact on artists just starting out to try with simple techniques. I think my art professor was jealous to be honest. LOL
Yep, how my art professor was. He didnt judge on what you produced, more so on you were actually trying. The most gratifying effect I had was a fellow student, did a charcoal of her....she loved it. I thought it sucked...but we came BFFs after it.
Well, my art professor did do his own abstract in class, which was stellar. I think his jealousy was over how simple landscapes were popular as a teaching style vs. the latest and greatest. Of course, most people just want to learn a landscape for pleasure, so I'm not surprised Bob Ross was more popular. He just wasn't stuck up like many art teachers are.
He is a national treasure , waking up kids to their imaginations , bringing adults to peace and serenity ...... nuff said
Great points Eejit
bro dont even joke about this legend like that!
Did you watch the video? In general, I think I gave him a fair shake if you strip off the legendary status. I mean who doesn't love Bob Ross. We grew up on him.
@@ShawNshawNu apparently had idea who he was or his backstory and yet you made a misinformed video about him. Typical traditional artist. Most have a god complex
The man knew how to teach. I did one of his tutorials after my grandmother bought me one of those kidy paint sets on a whim at the supermarket when I was around 10. They weren't even oil based, they were those cheapo water based ones you can get anywhere for 10$ or so. I followed along as best I could, knowing full well I wasn't using the right paint but... and I would like to mention that I have *zero* talent whatsoever, I have to practice 10 times more than others to get the same level of skill normally. (I'm a logical type, math I can do, art is confusing and hard). That day I painted a cabin in a snowy field that *wasn't half bad.* I've never painted as well before or since. The man had a way with words and demonstration to be sure.
Yes Bob has some of the best techniques out there for making great paintings quickly.
Wtf are you talking about? The dude is a gentle soul. Smh...
Fair point Patrick. LOL
Bob Ross was and still is an inspirational entity in the vein of Mr. Rogers, and Jim Henson. Pure good vibes. He was a lucky guy to have a son who was interested in his vision. His son is lucky to have had a Dad with such good intentions. A great family legacy that will live on for a VERY long time.
Hi Logic, yes Bob Ross is a great legend in painting world for sure.
Can you believe that this soft spoken guy was a drill sergeant?! I cannot picture him yelling at people!
Wow. I had no idea Bruce.
@@ShawNshawNyet u made a video about him knowing nothing about him.
FYI, Bob did his show from '83 to '94, not in the '70s
ya it was the haircut that threw me.
@@ShawNshawNshows you knew very little before making a cringe video about this legend.
His afro is a perm and it was to save money
Skilled and entertaining, thats why he is remembered.
Oh yes. The entertainment factor can not be stressed enough. He was also one of the first on TV to do painting live. I don't think he would have had the same impact coming out 20 years later when YT painting started.
Hi ShawN Great review! I actually never watched Bob Ross although I had heard of his program. Funny thing I was painting on the beach in Mexico when he came along with some ladies! We had a great chat.
Nice that you got to meet Bob Ross. I'm sure he had a huge following of artists back in the day. You definitely have to watch Bob Ross just for the hilarious personality. He's like Mr. Rogers of painting videos.
@@ShawNshawN Absolutely, so laid back - yes, it was fun to chat with him. He liked my painting and we talked later about the possibility of me teaching in a Bob Ross school but I had already developed the Laara WilliamSen School of Art and did my own individualized methods. I appreciated his kindness. Take care ShawN!
that's super cool to have talked to him about doing Bob Ross school.
You got to meet the legend!! I'm totally jealous!
me too Tami
Everyone grew up with him and he's a national treasure. He might paint the same kind of shit over and over, with some exceptions if you watch the whole series but he encouraged generations to pick up paint. His narrating style is always known to be tranquil for many listeners long before podcasts. Plus he was on tv in the 80's early 90s, not the 70's.
The reason Bob Ross wore an Afro initially was because he was low on funds and that was how he was able to save money. He had his hair permed and didn’t have to worry about a monthly haircut. This info was provided by his business partner. Once he became famous his PR team advised against dumping the Afro because it had become his trademark. He was often referred to as “that artist guy on tv, the one with the Afro.”
Good background on the afro hair cut of Bob Ross
15 minutes? How many tv shows are 15 minutes? Let the man fill up his 30 min. Bob Ross is the boss
Yes Bob Ross was the Beast back in the day. Such an innovation.
He's also giving instruction
Fyi Bob Ross's first tv painting sold (after he passed away) for over $9 million ... Most are owned by a company in his name and an original rarely if ever comes up for sale.
80s not 70s.
touche. The hair made me think it was reruns when I saw it growing up.
80s-90s
1/11/1983 first show aired in Virginia. WNVC PBS station. Took his classes in 1983 there. Then he went to Muncie, Indiana. Died 7/4/1995 . Painted on tv for only 11 yrs. Had produced 31 seasons, 13 episodes each. He did 3 paintings for each episode. The reason he was able to get the painting done in a short time.
Thanks for the clarification Sheila. I don't know why I thought it was 70s. LOL
@@ShawNshawN because you made a video without any research
The show started in the 80s.
true, but that hair screams 70s LOL
We have a painter in Montréal,Quebec who did a tv show in the eighties ( in French) it was a bit like Bob Ross, is name was Charles Garo, Tatossian he was very popular on tv., you can find some of his vied on UA-cam but it's in french..
You don't know crap. Bob Started in the mid 80s. on TV. I know , I bought one pf his first starter kits 1988. He was a God send to millions of wanna be artist., that didn't have money or the time to attend fancy smacy classes. God bless Bob Ross RIP...he helped me through a lot of tough times. I'm 69 and still watch and paint along with him.
Well, I would say it was a positive effect on most artists kind of like the Mr. Rogers of painting. I watched him a lot growing up and was impacted to become a painter off his videos.
What a lot of people don't know was that the primary purpose of that show wasn't to bring in viewers to the channel- that was part of it, of course- but it's true purpose was to sell paint, lol. That's why they listed all the colors across the screen at the beginning, and why Bob kept referring to their specific names like "Titanium White" as he was painting. Also he hated that goofy hair, I forget why he rocked it in the first place but he only kept it permed because it became associated with the brand, lol
It was still a wholesome show and Bob was in it for the right reasons, his love of painting, but I think it's funny that per usual there was a serious business side to it that most people aren't aware of
It's my goal in life to become as chill and calm as Bob ross
Yes, Bob was super chill on set with this first time painter on TV. Painter legend.
The 70s? Come on bro.
well the afro is more 70s than 80s right?
You didn’t mention bill Alexander who taught Bob Ross the wet on wet technique
Cool channel you have here love the idea glad I noticed your comment on Facebook so I could find your channel definitely cool👍👍
Thanks Earthling from a fellow earthling.
You May Be Wondering?
Why Does Bob Always Talk In A Very Calming Tone,
Before He Started Painting
Bob Ross Used To Be In The US Military As A Drill Instructor For The Airforce(His Rank Was Master Sargent)
Everyday He Had To Yell At People Which He Flat Out Hated Doing Since IRL He Was a Very Kind & Gentle Person So After He Got Out
He Promised To Never Raise His Voice Again & He Kept It Until He Died. After That He Became The Beloved Happy Tree Man We Know Today.
Very cool insight as to why Bob was so soft spoken in his videos. His approach really opened up a lot of kids to the magic of painting and what you could do if you allowed yourself to experiment and not self judge. Its easy to self-judge as an artist as it takes a long time sometimes to reach easily sellability.
This better be the last time you skip ahead on a Bob Ross show.
The joy of painting ran from 1983-1994 not the 70s. His hair was naturally straight but permed it
Ya I found out about the fake hair later. It was a great series for aspiring artists everywhere back in the day.
Mr Ross has one of the coolest Afro I ever seen! 😊
I would like to see a painting of his that he took his time on.
Could someone please enlighten me as to what exactly is "tacky" about a cabin nestled in the wilderness at the base of a mountain?????
What is your background in painting?
Him beating the devil out of thr brush was my favorite part😂
Yes Ryne!! That part is hilarious. I talked to someone that was on one of his live shows. The spray went ALL OVER the studio audience. Like a G!!! LOL
The show was on from 83-94. Nothing in the 70’s lol. And yes I took that picture I love in the lakes region of NH and go to work early in the morning
Thanks for the correction Aaron .
I actually enjoyed the episode with his son, I agree with your criticism about him, but I also feel that he got much better a couple of minutes in, when he got a bit more comfortable with the situation.
Cool analysis though. I have no intention of painting anything any time soon, but I enjoy picking up on his techniques, but above all, I just enjoy watching him paint and relax.
No, Bob wasn't cringe. Bob was about calm and good with the world.
The very first painting he did on his first show! Is estimated to be worth is 9.8 million!
I would give 5 bucks for a painting by Shawn.
Wonder what one of Bob's paintings would sell for today. BTW, he hated that afro but thought people expected to see it so kept it.
Ya there's no way you would get away with the hair today after blackface and culutural appropiation police came out. Always a challenge to veer away from your brand once its established.
Idk, but I have 5 that my grandpa painted. Couldn't pay me enough to sell!
Great points Tami :)
Ok
Never knew his son was a painter as well.
Cannot be easy living in the shadow of your father and always being compared.
Especially when we are all individuals.
The fro was quite common.
The drummers Don Brewer and Don Henley come to mind.
I wasa AZ cowboy that always wore my Western hat and with hair about as long as Bob Ross's son's. And I also had a permanent
It wasn't as Curly as his but.. it wasn't straight either.
Lol perm would last about 6 months.
In the early seventies I went to the local Art Studio and ask the instructor if he knew someone to paint a wall mural. They used a similar technique but a lot more detail and they spent close to a week doing it.
He went through nearly $80 worth of oil paint alone.
Minimum wage at the time was a $1.40 an hour.
Lol
But hey when he was done I had a detailed picture of Havasu falls in the Grand Canyon.
🚜🤠🐂
actually, Bob Ross tv show occured in the 80's and 90's.... Not in the 70's.
Good catch Captain. Watch the reef!
I definitely prefer the Bob Ross sound, the painting and brush cleaning is part of the love of painting
Yes you have to love the slap on the palette to clean the brush. He probably had paint all over that studio. LOL
Ok so his hair isn't fake it's a perm something millions of people did at the time. Speaking of time Bob Ross ran from 1983-1994 it didn't run during the 1970's.
yes good point. Nowadays it would definitely verge on blackface culture appropiation.
yeah , the perm was real until he got cancer in the mid 90s and lost his hair due to Chemo, poor guy had to put on a wig
He also has one off frame that he actually spent time into just as a reference so he can zip through them on camera.
You know you knock him for how he is actually slow there are others that are now faster - For the average viewer this is incredible fast -also the multiple brushes is a fantastic idea because it would be boring to wait for brush cleaning - He is still incredible - Ahead of his time- Easy for you to critique - You come across as an ahole with your toungue in cheek I'm better than he is...
Its the whole point of the video to post the bad and good of the videos in my series. Its fair if you get pissed about the critique.
I learned how to paint from him,Monday to Friday at 4pm after school
Yes it was pretty cool seeing him on TV. It was the only art school online back in the day.
I accidentally pressed this video and it was the best mistake I ever made ☺️
Thanks Acee. I try to make the video fun for the viewers. I have a ton more artist react videos.
It was a happy accident.
thanks for watching SociallyAnti
I don't know if you knew this, but surprisingly he was a Master Sergeant in the Air Force and at one point an MIT (Similar to drill instructor or drill sergeant)
Interesting insight. I had no idea about the Air Force background.
80’s
correct!
Then you criticize the looks, the phony afro, and his son - He made it work and stood out [Dude why are you waring the cap, hiding your shiny head? ] - The son well yeh he's trying to learn and use the same approach as the father - ok that is kind of silly; he should have tried to be more of himself - But he is trying.. sometimes things don't work the same. You taking shots at him but he was a trail blazer -
Nelson... its just a video and I do have more hair than you claim. LOL. Ya its terrible that the final product wasn't passed onto his son, but his producer.
I feel like you went into this with a preconceived decision about how you felt. Don’t let your professor (who was likely jealous) make up your mind for you.
I'm pretty sure his painting subjects were based on his time living in Alaska. Also he was fast because he only had a certain amount of time because he painted for TV. They only had like 30 mins to do it. I think he said he had painted each painting like 2 or 3 times before he did the TV version. So that may have helped him be quicker.
Bob Ross inspired and still inspired so many people to even just start painting.
I think from what I know he did 2-3 paintings for each show and used only the best version for the TV. There are doubles and triplicates of every painting he made
With a thumbnail title like that, this is obviously Clickbait and does not deserve views. 👋🏽
For the program, each painting is done at least 3 times. The first one is very generic and missing a lot of detail. This is used as a reference for the recording. Then, he does the painting you see in the recording.. This is usually done in about half an hour. Finally, there's the one that you see in the credits. These ones take either 3-4 hours, or maybe a few days, depending on the detail.
Great background on the process Phillip. So different than nowadays with artists just uploading to YT on their own: no TV, no TV politics, no TV editors, no Ads to worry about (if you're small). The way it was shot is amazing considering there's so little to work from before this as far as video/TV to copy.
@@ShawNshawN Back then, you pretty much had to take classes to learn how to oil paint. Bob was taught by a man named Bill Alexander. Bill hosted the predecessor to "The Joy of Painting". It was called "The Magic of Oil Painting". It debuted in the mid '70s and, ended in 1983, shortly before "The Joy of Painting" began.
Unfortunately, there was a bit of drama between them when Bob passed away. That's probably why Bob didn't talk about Bill much, towards the end of "The Joy of Painting". But, these things happen sometimes.
great back story
Hehe love itttt
yes its a fun series. One of my most successful. I guess I'm a better analyst of art than artist. LOL
1980s. Not 1970s
Ya the fro threw me off.
National Treasure
100% Mike
I've never been a painter but, I was able to attend a few recordings. Yes, I've been splashed by him "beating the devil" out of the brush.
that's hilarious!!! God people must have been pissed getting it on their clothes. Of course as he became famous it would have been a mark of honor sort of.
It’s a kitschy thing,
Artist angst.
yes, he was so trippy describing his art and technique as he went along. A big inspiration to all us artists to go hard in the paint.
1:29 not true! He hates the afro thats true but its not fake. When he started doing the joy of painting he had the afro but wanted to get rid of it but he was to busy to get a hair cut. Then he blew up and the afro was kinda his trade mark, logo every thing. So he couldn’t get rid of it. He kept the hair and hated it but kept it for the show. (So not fake, just wasn’t very happy about it). Before he made the show he had indeed the hair you where talking about.
Tobias, if you perm your hair to get an afro its fake. Its like straightened afro hair, also fake only due to chemicals. Thanks for watching.
That "fun part" is what gave him cancer and killed him. Slapping the brush with paint thinner in the small house they filmed at with little to no ventilation
Ya, some guy I talked to said the TV audience would literally get sprayed with paint thinner in the studio. Wild times.
@@ShawNshawN "that guy" didn't watch the documentary lol. There was no live audience. They filmed in a small single room in a little house
Ok i heard you say you are an artist .. i know the bio on you says people like Tom Cruise follow you ... so i looked up some of your art work - definitely more modern avante garde as is the style nowadays.
As someone who still likes more classical paintings by Constable and Turner, Monet etc. i find my taste (and i know that everyones taste is different which makes the art world varied and fantastic) prefers the Bob Ross aesthetic (and i know it is not high end - and there is no pretense as such). Plus knowing that it is intended to help viewers begin painting makes it more appealing. After all the show was called The Joy of Painting.
It was the mid .80s to the mid 90s
100%. Just the hair reminded me so much of the 70s when I was taping this way back.
Is your hat with earphones your trademark? Really your smile should be your trademark. Enjoyed this but The time was early 80's. I like that you have the same philosophy...paint what you love to paint.
Hi Crocus, yes, its interesting how some artists can just devote to ONE style and stick to it forever. HOW!!!? LOL
Think Steve Ross has said that his heart wasn't really into it. Bill Alexander (his mentor) was better, but I remember watching Bob Ross in the day and he has inspired many others.
Ya it could be. Steve was less hungry. Its very hard to beat a legend especially when its your own dad. Sadly, Steve lost all the rights to Bob Ross business, so don't buy anything Bob Ross art supplies as it doesn't go to the family at all. Peace!
Past 26 years his death(Bob Ross)but still legend
Without a doubt. It is amazing though. If he started today, I think many other artists would surpass him in quality.
@@ShawNshawNmaybe but not character
It was the 80's, but whatever.
yep 100%
actually, there was one before him by the name of william alexander who showed bob how to do it and he was on pbs before bob was.
cool to know. I don't remember seeing William at all.
@@ShawNshawN ya might be able to find him on here, he always said something about the `almighty brush'. he was somewhat a tad chubby compared to bob and he had a show called `the magic of oil painting with william alexander'.
thanks for the tip. Il have to check him out. Of course, Bob Ross is for sure more famous.
@@ShawNshawN yw
I mean i have no idea about painting , but to me i just can't think of anything that could be improved about his painting , i mean they look pretty realistic to me , but i actually never understood how people decide who is the best painter i mean how can you judge 2 ultra realistic painting , maybe personal preference?
Fair point David. The main thing I look for is quality, impact and skills in these types of reactions. I still stand that Bob had a tremendous impact on all future painters, but could have been a bit better maybe at color choices sometimes.
Fun fact this is the only painting of bob ross that included a person everything else where landscapes.
Nice add Walter. Ya he's the first pre-UA-cam youtuber painter
He was dying of cancer.
I think the thing missed was...why he was so fast...he knew exactly what he wanted. In my art classes, many times....you didnt know what you were trying to do.
yes, he was amazingly fast. I think though if you paint every day fast and not focused on precise details, perfect colors, etc. it can be done. Another modern take is Jose Trujillo. He can do a good painting in about 15 minutes each time.
Bill Alexander, bob's mentor, was better. Bob's style seems a little too touched up. I like the looser semi-impressionistic end of Alexander's paintings.
His pallet is plastic
maybe his art isn't actually in the painting, think more conceptually
Good points on interpreting Bob Ross
80s not 70s
This wasn't the 70s. This started in 1983
Good catch. Close... off by 4 years LOL
Go back to back to school, you don't know enough.
I've been an artist 15 years. Its just a reaction video.
@@ShawNshawNyeah but you still blow
"Is he relevant still"
Well.... Do people still suck balls at painting? 🤷♂️
[edit][ Yes. I suck at painting. And pencils. And inks.
Oh there are plenty of bad painters out there, but that's the fun of painting sometimes.
The joy of painting ran from 1983 to 1994 not the 70s. Do your homework.
Yep, fair point. The hair threw me off to think it was much earlier.
Talentless people always attempt to look impressive by putting others down. Shame; the art of acknowledgment of other peoples skill has become somewhat a taboo.
No idea what you are talking about.
Bob Ross never passed his painting off as a masterpiece painting... It was all about the joy of painting... It all way annoyed me how "artists. Claim he's not a real painter. They try to sell a painting make by shooting a paint ball gun as real art. Your just to stupid to understand
@@ShawNshawNhe’s referring to you
While I don't care for his formulaic style because it has no soul, his backstory is truly amazing how he transformed himself from hard ass military instructor into the most lovable tv personality you could imagine. On his own time through sheer force of will he learned his craft and touched so many lives with his personality.
Make your own career. Never heard of you.
Bill Alexander was so much better.
Il have to check him out. Does he have a YT channel?
@@ShawNshawN Well, he passed away in the 90's but his family runs a UA-cam channel in his name.
Nice. Thanks for the info.
@@ShawNshawNgeese your a Moron and you call yourself a seasoned Artist? These are legendary names lol
Your cringe for saying that about bob Ross