In the past two years I have left three jobs because of toxic workplaces. Sometimes I think that I might be the problem. Then, I stand up for myself, in my heart and in my head and tell myself that something better is out there…And I deserve it…
Look deep inside you and trust your gut and the chance is very small that you are the problem. Write down what you saw at that job and say to yourself: would you find this normal for someone else to happen to? Gaslighting is real. On top of tap, employers love it if they can put the blame on you. They want you to quit, so they don't have to pay severance pay!
The biggest problem in today's corporate world is that companies expect you to have this weird cult like devotion to them but they don't hold themselves (or their senior employees) to the same standard so when we start working there and we see a very obvious difference between how they treat us and how they expect us to treat them that's when problems arise. I'm a professional with many years of experience and rare skills, and whenever I go to work for a company I tell them that they are hiring me for my skills and experience. I'm not a robot and I'm not there to boost anyones ego, I'm not a "yes" man. If you don't trust me and you want to micromanage me I'm not the man for the job, if you're paying me the amount of money you're paying me then you need to treat me like a professional and not some junior engineer that just got out of college. Finally, I'm a very friendly person and I'll back over backwards for my co-workers and managers but I think alot of people see that as a weakness to be taken advantage of and thats also where I clash with people because I treat people the way they treat me and unfortunately alot of people like giving abuse but they dont like taking it and that's what the toxic work environment is really about. We have a short time on this earth, don't spend it in a place that makes you unhappy for no reason, you work to live, you dont live to work.
Totally normal and especially today as the society is so much more distracted from our own intuitions and humanity - the industrialized grind (before sunrise and still going after sunset) mindset is not in our evolution with rates of anxiety and depression undeniably revealing such. Dark triads getting an unnatural advantage to less well rested and thus less mentally bulletproofed and grounded overall employment to set boundaries and defend their needs (greater stress and energy required - less fluid and natural as it should be, more pent up with less exercise too). A big one is morning exercises even a quick walk everyday to bring back that natural fluidity to advance through the job market to a greater fit and tolerate less of what's only parasitical to our growth and health and authentic self. It's weird when some conventional wisdoms say work requires complete self sacrifice - why? Raising a child should require most of the sacrifice of personal needs for those early years - hah, I think a lot of corporate industries have essentially exploited this caregiver part of our instinct for their own gains... for their baby! It's harsh and probably inhumane for the economy to have evolved to a state of needing most mothers of very young children to still work fulltime for a family's income to meet basic needs - that's a huge problem and the mental health of younger increasingly daycared and absent parent (absent father) generations is increasingly revealing that for sure....things more important than money and resources, the healthy bonding, attachment styles, and humanity of our future generations. Seeing employees and management boss each other around and refuse to accept that varying personality types, speaking styles, cases of mental health exist is madness and fueling turnover rates for sure.
My last job nearly killed me. Once I left, God opened new doors for me and am happier. Have a plan and add Faith to it, God will help u. The lesson I learned ; never trade your values and well-being for anything toxic, do ur best always, but value the precious gift of Life.
Same! I really thought I was (part) of the problem last time... But I talked to a few people and apparently the toxic job has a reputation! If we all spoke up we could avoid these places! Google reviews help. I always write honest reviews of past workplaces. Why don't people do this more often?
I worked for an abusive boss for almost two years because the pay was good and I lacked confidence in myself. I had a "nervous breakdown". I found the phone number of the employee who had worked for him just prior to me and I called her. She too had left for the very same reason. Since then, I won't take one ounce of abuse from anyone at a job. I've left four jobs this year in a matter of weeks when it became clear the abuse wasn't just a one-off event (it rarely is!) Got down to $200 and I was panicking but I start a new job tomorrow and I'm getting better vibes from it. Less money but that's okay! Life is too short to let others mistreat you period. You'll pay a price for it and it isn't worth any amount of money.
Well. Congratulations!!!! You did what is BEST for you!! And management at toxic jobs don’t care if their less favored employees “kick the bucket” so to speak. They’ll step right over you and say “Next!!”
I have been fired from or left numerous jobs due to unhealthy environments, unhealthy people, unhealthy policies : toxicity and/or zero integrity. No job is worth my peace. 2021- mandate madness is a perfect example. Walk your talk and trust yourself ✌
There's a lot of conversations that aren't being had in regards to work. Well-being, mental health and overall it's ok to walk away. Many people make us feel guilty for walking away, and we should applaud ourselves for making those decisions and validating ourselves.
Yes people don't talk about their toxic jobs often enough. I found the courage to tell my partner that my last job was toxic and funny enough he knew the reputation of the company. So don't be scared to tell anyone. If they become sceptical of you, leave them.
I left a job in December - I didn’t realize how bad it was for my mental health until I left, being around snarky rude people all day long isn’t worth it if you are not like that! I have a steep learning curve with the new job, but the people around me are supportive, friendly and kind, so much more fun!
Ohh....I'm jealous. I just got fired from an environment from hell. They took me out like savages. I will be so grateful to find a congenial environment. I deserve better. I always knew that....but change is hard. They did me a favor.
The main reason why I clinged to some toxic jobs is the shame of having a short job stint on my cv. I had 10 jobs in 5 years, not all toxic, but it's 10 and not 6 or 7 because of the toxic jobs. It also made me think that something was wrong with me, until I did a lot of research. I read a lot of labor psychology books, I joined a union, I re-evaluated my capitalist mindset (although the problem is more corporatism), I read the Antiwork subreddit, I wrote messages to people who did testimonials in the union paper on their toxic jobs because I'm a lawyer and sometimes I give them my legal opinion or information, and it's so eye opening. I never thought that as a lawyer I would be struggling with this myself. The worst types of jobs are where there is a lot of money involved.
I’m a nurse and I’m working the only job that I am willing to work as a nurse. I’ve been doing this for 21 years, I’ve worked in many different environments. I always left when my job compromised my morals and values, which is very much of healthcare nowadays unfortunately. There is so much greed in this industry it is revolting and disgusting. It’s a very sad state our country is in regarding healthcare right now. As a healthcare provider, I don’t even have health insurance. That is the price I pay for not being willing to be a cog in the machine.
The healthcare sector is compromised by billion dollar insurance companies. They are wasting so much money on insurance. It's a shame. I only just volunteered once for a hospital and I was relieved I wasn't even hired for that. The job is hard enough as it is. But I have been a patient many times and so many doctors lie, treat you wrong and during covid you were definitely treated like a retarded piece of crap. It left me hating the medical world with a passion!
Wow. I too worked on healthcare and I had the same experience. I wanted to help patients and support their health, but unfortunately they healthcare industry is all about the money. It’s sad. I wonder why healthcare has been so toxic. Covid only exacerbated the problem but it has been brewing under the surface the whole time.
Healthcare has the worst, most expensive insurance I have ever encountered in a working environment. Moreover, Obama care, specifically , destroyed affordable healthcare in this country !!
If you heard my story....you'd really be sick. Just when you think...you cannot be shocked anymore....that you've heard it all. OMG Can't wait to retire...if these jerks don't kill me off first.
Also the fear that a person could not do better than what they already are doing. Even in public sector there is no job security, you have to prove yourself worthy of staying. It's a myth that government work is 100% secure. It's just not the case.
🌎 Amen. Thank God I can go back to work. I am greatful to walk away from a toxic work environment. Thank God I can do that. My freedom means more than anything.
I needed this today I landed a job where they truly value their employees in and outside of the workplace, however I've been clinging to where I've been for 18 years. This video gave me the push I needed to fully close the door on that chapter to begin the next. Thank you Josh, Ryan, and Mariah.
Thank you. I'm on the verge of tears because I hate it here at my job. I'm desperately looking for another job but I'm afraid I won't make it.This video is helping.Thank You.
Don't stay in a job that you don't feel good in... It's 9 hours of your life a day... Nice Jobs are out there! Just make sure you have savings to survive a period " when you are on the quest to find a good job" talk it over with at least with you're best friend and maybe you're parents before you quit. Get life experiences/ advise from other too
@@ChantaltheFrencyunfortunately it works only in developed countries. I am now holding to my job cause it is crisis here plus warfare. Because of that companies lay off people and close offices. Foreign companies don't hire cause well, we can die at any point. I am now in a position where I should either be patient and keep working in a toxic environment and feed my family or stay without a job during war time.
It’s the money, benefits and lack there of self confidence that you can do better elsewhere to stay in a toxic job. Until you can’t take it anymore you will leave it.
The "donuts and candies" can show up as spaghetti thursdays, (empty) fitness rooms, literal candy in the lunch room, constant pies that everyone brings for any birthday to constantly try to get some serotonin out of your brain and to make you fat and slow, they do "bring your partner to the company party" to fade the line between work and private life,... every candy is poison at work. More net pay or nothing for me.
I work chat support and I needed this. Looks like there are no other explanations why I stuck so long. It's the money and familiarity with current work environment. Once I'm accepted somewhere else for a non-customer service job, I'm out. Never going back and subjecting myself to such torment.
I worked in customer support/sales/care and eventually managing tech support employees (in a way), which summed up to 12 years of experience in 3 different companies. The last spot was a top 10 IT company in its field. If you watch UA-cam, chances are you saw the ADS with it at least several times. The thing is, it was fun the first year or two when it was developing as a company. Once it got to bigger level, that's where the real face of the management showed up. I did not have raise for more than 1.2 years and the last raise was around 10% of my salary. Several people I managed went to another company and started making 100% higher numbers than I did with at least double of their experience. Everything ended up with landing to a very toxic team that by the way consists of women only (it is quite rare in this company but happens). At this point it really challenges my mental health but I cannot leave cause of economical situation in my country. In simple words there's almost no job now, and on top there's a warfare here so most companies either leave or don't hire people from my country cause, well, we can die at any point.
I've been working with a condescending boss for about a year, and I've lost confidence to the point where I hope every day that she will have a calm mind since she was too aggressive, and my anxiety symptoms have become evident, every time I talk to her, I quiver.
Working at a hospital 🏥 is heartbreaking. Seeing a doctor come out of a patient room and treating that patient for a common cold because their insurance Company doesn’t cover the test needed to get correct diagnosis.
I agree on all the points except the responsibilities. The society doesn't dictate the moral responsibilities we have towards our parents and our children. We're the support for our parents in their oldage and we have to raise our children to the full potential. Both of these require steady money and certainty. I'm not sure about the U.S., but in our country, most people cling to the worst jobs only to feed their families... the people he/she loves the most. Here, many of us live with our parents and our children together as a one big happy family. So, naturally, the earning members have certain fear of the breakdown for even the simplest living needs minimum money. Moreover, the pandemic scared many into believing that your family may get destroyed within a few months if you lose the steady money. I don't think most people has an option to overcome that fear. After all, happy family keeps us happy even in the worst of times. And I think that people cling to that certainty for this. It's better to see a smile on the faces we love and cling to a crappy job than to pursue our own happiness risking the fallout of everything. Most developing countries may understand this scenario. Again, I have no idea how it is in the U.S.
I am currently in a toxic workplace situation and I am on disability because of job related anxiety, depression and stress....I want to leave but I am scared...
And then there are toxic jobs where they literally constantly put pies, candy and other unhealthy foods in front of you... But if you leave the office to buy lunch instead of having crippling small talk on a bar stool in a conference room, you are weird.
Here in Switzerland to work as sales advisor you have to study for it, and although I didn't, I was working as one. Very unhappy the last months for many reasons: overloaded, underpaid, having to deal with disrespectful/frustrated people... When I saw your last upload, it came to my mind: its time! Just quit! Thanks guys!!!
I became a lawyer because I love giving legal advice. But after working as an attorney, and as a jurist at a bailiff and a notary, I realised how all these worlds are only about one thing: how to steal as much money from the client and the system as we can. There are barely any good people in this world, because you literally have to have no morals or heart to do this job. You do have to have brains, but even that is not that spectacular. They're not even happy! They are always cursing, nagging, speeding with their ugly BMWs, cheating on their wives, complaining of burnout and weight gain, and they are ridden with mental disorders like schizophrenia!
Well, I'm glad I'm not smart enough then.... but I tell you...the jobs that should be professional, but yet ...are not high-end? The one I just got fired from? Oh, my lord. What I went through, and the way they took me out. These females were gangsters,.....and despicable...What they did to me...I would never dream to do to anyone. They were bad news!
I clung because I was worried about being jobless as a single mom. It paid well but was miserable. I stayed too long until it made me sick and disabled and now I can't work anymore. I wish I had saved my earnings and quit to rest until I found another job. Better to look elsewhere even if the salary is less. People kept on telling me I was lucky to have that job. I wish I had taken a gap year to heal and then tried to work for myself.
What story can you tell yourself if you need to continuing working to pay off your student debt or be able to become a homeowner in CA or just keep good medical insurance? I get not needing the money for the trivial things but owning a home, paying off student debt, having medical are big ones. Thoughts?
Then, we might be holding onto a specific place, lifestyle, etc that makes it more difficult to attain some of these goals. This is happening to me as well, and I’ve come to question what do I value the most.
This young lady is spot on ! As an RN, I can tell you, no job is nearly as TOXIC as healthcare ! It is all about money and a PRODUCTION LINE mindset to enrich a very few at the top !! If you have any empathy for your own mental status your in serious 💩
Once my past boyfriend and I pulled up to an intersection, in an suburban American city, in the Pacific Northwest. At occasional stoplights, we will see a person with a sign, or a person soliciting help...I gave the person one or two dollar bills. My boyfriend at the time asked why. My reasoning, as a young person, was, "if I were in that situation, I would hope that someone would think to help me" and his response was..."but you'll never be in that situation". I found that interesting because I didn't place that confidence or reasoning or trust in myself, whereas that boyfriend did.
I wanted to be a lawyer because I like the law... I made a huge mistake to work for a bailiff. I thought it was just paperwork. But I saw people's € 50 medical bill rise to € 10.000 in a couple of years because the legal fees kept building up. What a brilliant idea of our minister of justice to add fees higher than the actual bill that can't be payed... You realise how disgusting and retarded this world is. And the boss had a cup that said: I'm surrounded by idiots. I am bringing one of those to my next toxic job.
I believe a lack of being selective with work, people, and communities we "actually" resonnate with and merely "settling" with what's thrown at us is part of the toxic jobs problem. It seems like for the longrun, there's only a fraction of these things out there that truly resonnate with us. Going through 7-10 jobs, relationships, friends, communities, etc with many ups and downs before finding a great one with overall exponential growth and alignment with our self and self-respect seems pretty normal these days, and especially these days with so much distraction from introspection and really doing the self work and learning what our real values and goals are that don't magically appear from birth nor become mostly clear by our 20s either. At-least in America, there's this notion of the "grind" requiring a sacrifice of our self and soul... corporate sacrifice ... amazing benefits but a servitude of the soul and going home to merely Netflix and a nap of a slumber. It's only encouraging of an early demise with dozens of toxic stress ailments if there's only settling for toxicity convincing the self that this it is and life is meaningless. However, it's not exactly the stress itself, but the "type" of stress that counts. The stress of the gym, the stress of the learning a new language, the stress of building a masterpiece you believe in. The productive stress that creates health, strength, mental backbone is the real grind that matters. Excuses like "well, we need money, just do anything" - no, make wiser choices and do what pays not only money but personal growth - don't sacrifice the soul. Our fears need gradually callusing into wisdom, the barrage of harassment and exploitation of our fears is hardly the way to strengthen them (in the long-run that is... short-term can still provide growth) and must either be confronted or simply moved on from as life is very short, 70-80 years average.. that's short and not something to worry about but simply is and must be stoically embraced with a smile at all the potential to explore and engage life - make it meaningful and keep it going in the growth direction over the settling and shame directions. It's a number, the life matters more, the living and feeling a motivated, curious, excited, intriguing, goal fulfilling drive to live is certainly one purpose.
What if it's not the job itself that is the problem, but one's mindset? I have a job that is, by all appearances, pretty amazing. But I still feel unhappy, and I don't believe a different job would make me any happier. I think it's my own mindset that's making me miserable.
Yes but also know you can't just blame yourself for that sadness. Empathy will heal that issue, but also a positive work environment could influence it as well.
I am trying to understand if I am also working in a toxic workplace? Cling to jobs thinking that things will get better, but in reality its not. I have been working more than 30+ years in Retail/Merchandising/Customer Service related roles, some managers pushing you to do jobs or tasks that your not interested in doing, the lack of tools and resources to do the job properly. Is it time to leave after 20+ years with time invested in a company not knowing if things will get any better? Now I tell people that I know to keep learning (online education and certifications courses) and if your young to keep your skill level updated and not to stay with one company more than 2 years, explore your options, add value to yourself.
The company I worked for didn’t care who they hired anytime I worked with someone it shouldn’t be the same pattern I’m here to walk not babysit a grown man are woman about your problems are what you know I’m here to work I refuse to be antagonized by my coworker with their bullshit I’m trying to work leave me alone bye 👋 it didn’t pay me enough it was hard labor that didn’t pay enough! So I walked out out with not feeling bad and I have a job now that works for me!!!!!
It is a story we tell ourselves that we need to be “responsible” for our children. What about the responsibility to have the adult capacity to make intentional life decisions? Children would be much better off with a dad that knows how to use his heart to make holistic, life-affirming decisions than one who is constantly angry and stressed due to a “responsible” job. No wonder so many American young people have felt abandoned by their materially focused parents and chose to be soothed by drugs and alcohol. So many social repercussions of these toxic jobs. Not to mention they are mostly entirely corrupt and destroying the planet. Yea, real responsible.
I worked with an interim manager who was an arrogant narcissist and liar. This person simply felt better and smarter than everyone else in their mind, especially minorities. That person would say things to me like, "No one wants to work with you." A gaslighter deluxe. I can't stand the thought of that evil manager. The presence of that person made many people miserable, and the work environment hostile. I would also see the cursor hovering over my screen, remotely, when I was writing reports. A work colleague had notes changed, in a way he didn't write. Just because it's on an electronic record or written by someone who doesn't like you, doesn't make it true when someone has control of your screen like that. In my section, 3 people quit, including myself. We were all minorities. The work commission and EEOC did nothing. I was told, "Oh, you just didn't like your job." What a joke.
I too worked in a toxic medical clinic as a provider. I stay too long because I thought I wasn’t going to be able to secure a job that was as flexible. Nevertheless, I was out of work several times for very serious medical problems while working there. All the while I knew it was related to the stress from the toxic or environment. Looking back at it now, I regret not leaving sooner, but I just didn’t want to go from toxic job to another
Although, I was not a provider...our stories have some similarities to it. If I wasn't as strong as I am, by the grace of god....I might've had a nervous breakdown, after what they put me through. Mistreatment...for a very long time, until I got the complete boot, and they did the unthinkable. Nothing but cruelty and vile individuals. The providers, the professionals, and those that carried themselves that way....were the only semblance of normality I was able to find solace in. Best of luck in your new endeavors.
Regarding schizophrenia, analyze what kind of food has been a common thread throughout the family's history. I believe what we eat can heal us or make us sick. For example, a high fruit raw vegan diet has slowed, hopefully reversing, my psoriasis.
I've just been laid off. Now I'm looking at working as a hypnotherapist and coach. Have more free time maybe work part-time. Go out in nature travel. Life is short
Here's my situation. I am also stressed out. I needed to request a transfer. I could not handle the site anymore. Waiting for my boss to find me a new site. I had to leave the lawfirm account. Too much drama, too much politics. Putting a dead mouse inside my security blazer with an attached threatening post-it message is the straw that broke the camel's back. It is a toxic environment. I worked there for almost 2.5 years. The silent treatment became unbearable but the dead mouse and threatening note did it for me. Monday night was my last day. I am now a man without a site anxiously waiting to start working at a new location. People are really mean which is the main reason why I love to be alone. Thank God I have enough sense to save money for a rainy day. I hope to be at a site in the next few days. You say?
When you're ill, especially mentally ill, you often don't work, or work less or in a (toxic) place below your qualifications - how can you pay medical bills with that? Public, semi-free medical care is a great achievement of civilization. It's sad that in US, as well as in other parts of the world, it's unavailable.
My job is really toxic, they've accused me of things I never did. My managers are terrible, the school cares more about the test than the student's education. I reqlly hate my job!!
This conversation on depressing toxic work cultures brings to mind Ben Hinson’s poem “Dance of Desolation:” ua-cam.com/video/imVJUQk9RO4/v-deo.htmlsi=NPvEwNa3tJle28K9
In the past two years I have left three jobs because of toxic workplaces. Sometimes I think that I might be the problem. Then, I stand up for myself, in my heart and in my head and tell myself that something better is out there…And I deserve it…
Look deep inside you and trust your gut and the chance is very small that you are the problem. Write down what you saw at that job and say to yourself: would you find this normal for someone else to happen to? Gaslighting is real. On top of tap, employers love it if they can put the blame on you. They want you to quit, so they don't have to pay severance pay!
I hear u and I am definitely in same shoe , some are saying maybe I am the problem but NO , trust your instinct
The biggest problem in today's corporate world is that companies expect you to have this weird cult like devotion to them but they don't hold themselves (or their senior employees) to the same standard so when we start working there and we see a very obvious difference between how they treat us and how they expect us to treat them that's when problems arise.
I'm a professional with many years of experience and rare skills, and whenever I go to work for a company I tell them that they are hiring me for my skills and experience. I'm not a robot and I'm not there to boost anyones ego, I'm not a "yes" man. If you don't trust me and you want to micromanage me I'm not the man for the job, if you're paying me the amount of money you're paying me then you need to treat me like a professional and not some junior engineer that just got out of college.
Finally, I'm a very friendly person and I'll back over backwards for my co-workers and managers but I think alot of people see that as a weakness to be taken advantage of and thats also where I clash with people because I treat people the way they treat me and unfortunately alot of people like giving abuse but they dont like taking it and that's what the toxic work environment is really about.
We have a short time on this earth, don't spend it in a place that makes you unhappy for no reason, you work to live, you dont live to work.
Totally normal and especially today as the society is so much more distracted from our own intuitions and humanity - the industrialized grind (before sunrise and still going after sunset) mindset is not in our evolution with rates of anxiety and depression undeniably revealing such. Dark triads getting an unnatural advantage to less well rested and thus less mentally bulletproofed and grounded overall employment to set boundaries and defend their needs (greater stress and energy required - less fluid and natural as it should be, more pent up with less exercise too).
A big one is morning exercises even a quick walk everyday to bring back that natural fluidity to advance through the job market to a greater fit and tolerate less of what's only parasitical to our growth and health and authentic self. It's weird when some conventional wisdoms say work requires complete self sacrifice - why? Raising a child should require most of the sacrifice of personal needs for those early years - hah, I think a lot of corporate industries have essentially exploited this caregiver part of our instinct for their own gains... for their baby! It's harsh and probably inhumane for the economy to have evolved to a state of needing most mothers of very young children to still work fulltime for a family's income to meet basic needs - that's a huge problem and the mental health of younger increasingly daycared and absent parent (absent father) generations is increasingly revealing that for sure....things more important than money and resources, the healthy bonding, attachment styles, and humanity of our future generations.
Seeing employees and management boss each other around and refuse to accept that varying personality types, speaking styles, cases of mental health exist is madness and fueling turnover rates for sure.
3 jobs in 2 years? It does sound like you might be the problem.
Have you held a job for longer than 2 years that you wouldn't classify as toxic?
The only regret that I have to leaving a toxic job is not leaving sooner...The longer you stay the harder it is to leave.
yes, I agree with that, That's where I am at as well.
My last job nearly killed me. Once I left, God opened new doors for me and am happier. Have a plan and add Faith to it, God will help u. The lesson I learned ; never trade your values and well-being for anything toxic, do ur best always, but value the precious gift of Life.
Same! I really thought I was (part) of the problem last time... But I talked to a few people and apparently the toxic job has a reputation! If we all spoke up we could avoid these places! Google reviews help. I always write honest reviews of past workplaces. Why don't people do this more often?
Thank you for that. I'm bookmarking your comment. I pray to God to intervene in my life.
fear of retaliation?@@helenarichard
I worked for an abusive boss for almost two years because the pay was good and I lacked confidence in myself. I had a "nervous breakdown". I found the phone number of the employee who had worked for him just prior to me and I called her. She too had left for the very same reason. Since then, I won't take one ounce of abuse from anyone at a job. I've left four jobs this year in a matter of weeks when it became clear the abuse wasn't just a one-off event (it rarely is!) Got down to $200 and I was panicking but I start a new job tomorrow and I'm getting better vibes from it. Less money but that's okay! Life is too short to let others mistreat you period. You'll pay a price for it and it isn't worth any amount of money.
I quit my job unexpectedly yesterday because it was making me sick, the demands were too much on my mental and physical health
Well. Congratulations!!!! You did what is BEST for you!! And management at toxic jobs don’t care if their less favored employees “kick the bucket” so to speak. They’ll step right over you and say “Next!!”
I have been fired from or left numerous jobs due to unhealthy environments, unhealthy people, unhealthy policies : toxicity and/or zero integrity.
No job is worth my peace.
2021- mandate madness is a perfect example.
Walk your talk and trust yourself ✌
No one "clings" to toxic jobs, people have bills to pay and getting a new job takes time.
There's a lot of conversations that aren't being had in regards to work. Well-being, mental health and overall it's ok to walk away. Many people make us feel guilty for walking away, and we should applaud ourselves for making those decisions and validating ourselves.
Yes people don't talk about their toxic jobs often enough. I found the courage to tell my partner that my last job was toxic and funny enough he knew the reputation of the company. So don't be scared to tell anyone. If they become sceptical of you, leave them.
I left a job in December - I didn’t realize how bad it was for my mental health until I left, being around snarky rude people all day long isn’t worth it if you are not like that! I have a steep learning curve with the new job, but the people around me are supportive, friendly and kind, so much more fun!
Ohh....I'm jealous. I just got fired from an environment from hell. They took me out like savages. I will be so grateful to find a congenial environment. I deserve better. I always knew that....but change is hard. They did me a favor.
The main reason why I clinged to some toxic jobs is the shame of having a short job stint on my cv. I had 10 jobs in 5 years, not all toxic, but it's 10 and not 6 or 7 because of the toxic jobs. It also made me think that something was wrong with me, until I did a lot of research. I read a lot of labor psychology books, I joined a union, I re-evaluated my capitalist mindset (although the problem is more corporatism), I read the Antiwork subreddit, I wrote messages to people who did testimonials in the union paper on their toxic jobs because I'm a lawyer and sometimes I give them my legal opinion or information, and it's so eye opening. I never thought that as a lawyer I would be struggling with this myself. The worst types of jobs are where there is a lot of money involved.
I’m a nurse and I’m working the only job that I am willing to work as a nurse. I’ve been doing this for 21 years, I’ve worked in many different environments. I always left when my job compromised my morals and values, which is very much of healthcare nowadays unfortunately. There is so much greed in this industry it is revolting and disgusting. It’s a very sad state our country is in regarding healthcare right now. As a healthcare provider, I don’t even have health insurance. That is the price I pay for not being willing to be a cog in the machine.
🤔 why don’t you start your own care agency? You are a nurse, right?
The healthcare sector is compromised by billion dollar insurance companies. They are wasting so much money on insurance. It's a shame. I only just volunteered once for a hospital and I was relieved I wasn't even hired for that. The job is hard enough as it is. But I have been a patient many times and so many doctors lie, treat you wrong and during covid you were definitely treated like a retarded piece of crap. It left me hating the medical world with a passion!
Wow. I too worked on healthcare and I had the same experience. I wanted to help patients and support their health, but unfortunately they healthcare industry is all about the money. It’s sad. I wonder why healthcare has been so toxic. Covid only exacerbated the problem but it has been brewing under the surface the whole time.
Healthcare has the worst, most expensive insurance I have ever encountered in a working environment. Moreover, Obama care, specifically , destroyed affordable healthcare in this country !!
It’s so hard to move on and let go. The fear of the unknown is holding me back. Thank you for this video it’s very motivating. 🙏🏼
Exactly!! I have the sane problem.
This is such an important topic. Thankfully I am retired now but in the past I’ve had jobs that made me physically sick.
If you heard my story....you'd really be sick. Just when you think...you cannot be shocked anymore....that you've heard it all. OMG Can't wait to retire...if these jerks don't kill me off first.
*"Happiness resides not in possessions, and not in gold, happiness dwells in the soul." - Democritus*
Love this quote. Thank you 💕
*“Make things as simple as possible but no simpler.” - Albert Einstein*
Also the fear that a person could not do better than what they already are doing. Even in public sector there is no job security, you have to prove yourself worthy of staying. It's a myth that government work is 100% secure. It's just not the case.
That’s an interesting comment! I wouldn’t have thought that.
You use to have Civil service protection. Now government is run like private sector. One mistake and your gone.
🌎 Amen. Thank God I can go back to work. I am greatful to walk away from a toxic work environment. Thank God I can do that. My freedom means more than anything.
I needed this today I landed a job where they truly value their employees in and outside of the workplace, however I've been clinging to where I've been for 18 years. This video gave me the push I needed to fully close the door on that chapter to begin the next. Thank you Josh, Ryan, and Mariah.
Might be even better to answer why people cling in general - it is the source of all problems
I need the money and the benefits. But I’m REALLY considering quitting. August 2022 yes!
Thank you. I'm on the verge of tears because I hate it here at my job. I'm desperately looking for another job but I'm afraid I won't make it.This video is helping.Thank You.
Just f*****be yourself and stand up for yourself always. Keep moving and do not stay stagnant. Life will have 100 other options. It is not death
I love this so much. I just quit my job!!!!! Starting to trust and rebuild my nursing journey.
First, I’m in this environment now. I’m so close to just quitting
Plan then do it! Good luck 👍
Don't stay in a job that you don't feel good in... It's 9 hours of your life a day... Nice Jobs are out there! Just make sure you have savings to survive a period " when you are on the quest to find a good job" talk it over with at least with you're best friend and maybe you're parents before you quit. Get life experiences/ advise from other too
@@ChantaltheFrencyunfortunately it works only in developed countries. I am now holding to my job cause it is crisis here plus warfare. Because of that companies lay off people and close offices. Foreign companies don't hire cause well, we can die at any point. I am now in a position where I should either be patient and keep working in a toxic environment and feed my family or stay without a job during war time.
@@eastern2687 then stay better times will come... Keep eyes open in meantime for a better job. Lots of strenght
It’s the money, benefits and lack there of self confidence that you can do better elsewhere to stay in a toxic job. Until you can’t take it anymore you will leave it.
The "donuts and candies" can show up as spaghetti thursdays, (empty) fitness rooms, literal candy in the lunch room, constant pies that everyone brings for any birthday to constantly try to get some serotonin out of your brain and to make you fat and slow, they do "bring your partner to the company party" to fade the line between work and private life,... every candy is poison at work. More net pay or nothing for me.
I work chat support and I needed this. Looks like there are no other explanations why I stuck so long. It's the money and familiarity with current work environment. Once I'm accepted somewhere else for a non-customer service job, I'm out. Never going back and subjecting myself to such torment.
I'm planning to apply as chat support is it really a toxic job?
@@aaajjjmmm1863 In my experience, yes, chat or phone support was absolutely stressful.
I worked in customer support/sales/care and eventually managing tech support employees (in a way), which summed up to 12 years of experience in 3 different companies. The last spot was a top 10 IT company in its field. If you watch UA-cam, chances are you saw the ADS with it at least several times. The thing is, it was fun the first year or two when it was developing as a company. Once it got to bigger level, that's where the real face of the management showed up. I did not have raise for more than 1.2 years and the last raise was around 10% of my salary. Several people I managed went to another company and started making 100% higher numbers than I did with at least double of their experience. Everything ended up with landing to a very toxic team that by the way consists of women only (it is quite rare in this company but happens). At this point it really challenges my mental health but I cannot leave cause of economical situation in my country. In simple words there's almost no job now, and on top there's a warfare here so most companies either leave or don't hire people from my country cause, well, we can die at any point.
I've been working with a condescending boss for about a year, and I've lost confidence to the point where I hope every day that she will have a calm mind since she was too aggressive, and my anxiety symptoms have become evident, every time I talk to her, I quiver.
Trauma Bonded in an abusive relationship
Working at a hospital 🏥 is heartbreaking. Seeing a doctor come out of a patient room and treating that patient for a common cold because their insurance Company doesn’t cover the test needed to get correct diagnosis.
Terrible.
As soon as you see that it's toxic, you get out as soon as possible. Nothing good comes from staying. I am experienced.
I agree on all the points except the responsibilities. The society doesn't dictate the moral responsibilities we have towards our parents and our children. We're the support for our parents in their oldage and we have to raise our children to the full potential. Both of these require steady money and certainty. I'm not sure about the U.S., but in our country, most people cling to the worst jobs only to feed their families... the people he/she loves the most. Here, many of us live with our parents and our children together as a one big happy family. So, naturally, the earning members have certain fear of the breakdown for even the simplest living needs minimum money.
Moreover, the pandemic scared many into believing that your family may get destroyed within a few months if you lose the steady money. I don't think most people has an option to overcome that fear. After all, happy family keeps us happy even in the worst of times. And I think that people cling to that certainty for this. It's better to see a smile on the faces we love and cling to a crappy job than to pursue our own happiness risking the fallout of everything. Most developing countries may understand this scenario. Again, I have no idea how it is in the U.S.
I am currently in a toxic workplace situation and I am on disability because of job related anxiety, depression and stress....I want to leave but I am scared...
And then there are toxic jobs where they literally constantly put pies, candy and other unhealthy foods in front of you... But if you leave the office to buy lunch instead of having crippling small talk on a bar stool in a conference room, you are weird.
Oh, I hate small talk and talking to co-workers.
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Here in Switzerland to work as sales advisor you have to study for it, and although I didn't, I was working as one. Very unhappy the last months for many reasons: overloaded, underpaid, having to deal with disrespectful/frustrated people... When I saw your last upload, it came to my mind: its time! Just quit! Thanks guys!!!
Keep your energy focused on your goals and ambitions.
The devil we know is better than the devil we don't know.
I became a lawyer because I love giving legal advice. But after working as an attorney, and as a jurist at a bailiff and a notary, I realised how all these worlds are only about one thing: how to steal as much money from the client and the system as we can. There are barely any good people in this world, because you literally have to have no morals or heart to do this job. You do have to have brains, but even that is not that spectacular. They're not even happy! They are always cursing, nagging, speeding with their ugly BMWs, cheating on their wives, complaining of burnout and weight gain, and they are ridden with mental disorders like schizophrenia!
Well, I'm glad I'm not smart enough then.... but I tell you...the jobs that should be professional, but yet ...are not high-end? The one I just got fired from? Oh, my lord. What I went through, and the way they took me out. These females were gangsters,.....and despicable...What they did to me...I would never dream to do to anyone. They were bad news!
I clung because I was worried about being jobless as a single mom. It paid well but was miserable. I stayed too long until it made me sick and disabled and now I can't work anymore. I wish I had saved my earnings and quit to rest until I found another job. Better to look elsewhere even if the salary is less. People kept on telling me I was lucky to have that job. I wish I had taken a gap year to heal and then tried to work for myself.
What story can you tell yourself if you need to continuing working to pay off your student debt or be able to become a homeowner in CA or just keep good medical insurance? I get not needing the money for the trivial things but owning a home, paying off student debt, having medical are big ones. Thoughts?
Then, we might be holding onto a specific place, lifestyle, etc that makes it more difficult to attain some of these goals. This is happening to me as well, and I’ve come to question what do I value the most.
@@virginiabyron I’m re-evaluating the home; what it looks like, where and again revisiting my values too
Great topic to speak about, thank you for this!
This young lady is spot on ! As an RN, I can tell you, no job is nearly as TOXIC as healthcare !
It is all about money and a PRODUCTION LINE mindset to enrich a very few at the top !!
If you have any empathy for your own mental status your in serious 💩
This was so enlightening…..You both have given me the push I need….I’ve been putting it off for too long….I need to get a grip…
Thanks guys 🤗
Once my past boyfriend and I pulled up to an intersection, in an suburban American city, in the Pacific Northwest. At occasional stoplights, we will see a person with a sign, or a person soliciting help...I gave the person one or two dollar bills. My boyfriend at the time asked why. My reasoning, as a young person, was, "if I were in that situation, I would hope that someone would think to help me" and his response was..."but you'll never be in that situation". I found that interesting because I didn't place that confidence or reasoning or trust in myself, whereas that boyfriend did.
To pay the bills, ALL JOBS ARE TOXIC that’s why people have made that dumb phrase “I don’t dream of labor”
I wanted to be a lawyer because I like the law... I made a huge mistake to work for a bailiff. I thought it was just paperwork. But I saw people's € 50 medical bill rise to € 10.000 in a couple of years because the legal fees kept building up. What a brilliant idea of our minister of justice to add fees higher than the actual bill that can't be payed... You realise how disgusting and retarded this world is. And the boss had a cup that said: I'm surrounded by idiots. I am bringing one of those to my next toxic job.
I believe a lack of being selective with work, people, and communities we "actually" resonnate with and merely "settling" with what's thrown at us is part of the toxic jobs problem. It seems like for the longrun, there's only a fraction of these things out there that truly resonnate with us. Going through 7-10 jobs, relationships, friends, communities, etc with many ups and downs before finding a great one with overall exponential growth and alignment with our self and self-respect seems pretty normal these days, and especially these days with so much distraction from introspection and really doing the self work and learning what our real values and goals are that don't magically appear from birth nor become mostly clear by our 20s either.
At-least in America, there's this notion of the "grind" requiring a sacrifice of our self and soul... corporate sacrifice ... amazing benefits but a servitude of the soul and going home to merely Netflix and a nap of a slumber. It's only encouraging of an early demise with dozens of toxic stress ailments if there's only settling for toxicity convincing the self that this it is and life is meaningless. However, it's not exactly the stress itself, but the "type" of stress that counts. The stress of the gym, the stress of the learning a new language, the stress of building a masterpiece you believe in. The productive stress that creates health, strength, mental backbone is the real grind that matters. Excuses like "well, we need money, just do anything" - no, make wiser choices and do what pays not only money but personal growth - don't sacrifice the soul. Our fears need gradually callusing into wisdom, the barrage of harassment and exploitation of our fears is hardly the way to strengthen them (in the long-run that is... short-term can still provide growth) and must either be confronted or simply moved on from as life is very short, 70-80 years average.. that's short and not something to worry about but simply is and must be stoically embraced with a smile at all the potential to explore and engage life - make it meaningful and keep it going in the growth direction over the settling and shame directions. It's a number, the life matters more, the living and feeling a motivated, curious, excited, intriguing, goal fulfilling drive to live is certainly one purpose.
What if it's not the job itself that is the problem, but one's mindset? I have a job that is, by all appearances, pretty amazing. But I still feel unhappy, and I don't believe a different job would make me any happier. I think it's my own mindset that's making me miserable.
Yes but also know you can't just blame yourself for that sadness.
Empathy will heal that issue, but also a positive work environment could influence it as well.
I am trying to understand if I am also working in a toxic workplace? Cling to jobs thinking that things will get better, but in reality its not. I have been working more than 30+ years in Retail/Merchandising/Customer Service related roles, some managers pushing you to do jobs or tasks that your not interested in doing, the lack of tools and resources to do the job properly. Is it time to leave after 20+ years with time invested in a company not knowing if things will get any better? Now I tell people that I know to keep learning (online education and certifications courses) and if your young to keep your skill level updated and not to stay with one company more than 2 years, explore your options, add value to yourself.
The company I worked for didn’t care who they hired anytime I worked with someone it shouldn’t be the same pattern I’m here to walk not babysit a grown man are woman about your problems are what you know I’m here to work I refuse to be antagonized by my coworker with their bullshit I’m trying to work leave me alone bye 👋 it didn’t pay me enough it was hard labor that didn’t pay enough! So I walked out out with not feeling bad and I have a job now that works for me!!!!!
It is a story we tell ourselves that we need to be “responsible” for our children.
What about the responsibility to have the adult capacity to make intentional life decisions?
Children would be much better off with a dad that knows how to use his heart to make holistic, life-affirming decisions than one who is constantly angry and stressed due to a “responsible” job.
No wonder so many American young people have felt abandoned by their materially focused parents and chose to be soothed by drugs and alcohol.
So many social repercussions of these toxic jobs. Not to mention they are mostly entirely corrupt and destroying the planet.
Yea, real responsible.
Left high paying Dubai retail job in Aug 2021..,, now i am jobless but happier than i can ever be…
How are you now mate?
I worked with an interim manager who was an arrogant narcissist and liar. This person simply felt better and smarter than everyone else in their mind, especially minorities. That person would say things to me like, "No one wants to work with you." A gaslighter deluxe. I can't stand the thought of that evil manager. The presence of that person made many people miserable, and the work environment hostile. I would also see the cursor hovering over my screen, remotely, when I was writing reports. A work colleague had notes changed, in a way he didn't write. Just because it's on an electronic record or written by someone who doesn't like you, doesn't make it true when someone has control of your screen like that. In my section, 3 people quit, including myself. We were all minorities. The work commission and EEOC did nothing. I was told, "Oh, you just didn't like your job." What a joke.
Great video. Always enjoy these topics.
Because its the same everywhere for certain roles.
I too worked in a toxic medical clinic as a provider. I stay too long because I thought I wasn’t going to be able to secure a job that was as flexible. Nevertheless, I was out of work several times for very serious medical problems while working there. All the while I knew it was related to the stress from the toxic or environment. Looking back at it now, I regret not leaving sooner, but I just didn’t want to go from toxic job to another
Although, I was not a provider...our stories have some similarities to it. If I wasn't as strong as I am, by the grace of god....I might've had a nervous breakdown, after what they put me through. Mistreatment...for a very long time, until I got the complete boot, and they did the unthinkable. Nothing but cruelty and vile individuals. The providers, the professionals, and those that carried themselves that way....were the only semblance of normality I was able to find solace in. Best of luck in your new endeavors.
Regarding schizophrenia, analyze what kind of food has been a common thread throughout the family's history. I believe what we eat can heal us or make us sick. For example, a high fruit raw vegan diet has slowed, hopefully reversing, my psoriasis.
You remind me of David bowe😊!
I've just been laid off. Now I'm looking at working as a hypnotherapist and coach. Have more free time maybe work part-time. Go out in nature travel. Life is short
Here's my situation. I am also stressed out. I needed to request a transfer. I could not handle the site anymore.
Waiting for my boss to find me a new site. I had to leave the lawfirm account. Too much drama, too much politics. Putting a dead mouse inside my security blazer with an attached threatening post-it message is the straw that broke the camel's back. It is a toxic environment.
I worked there for almost 2.5 years. The silent treatment became unbearable but the dead mouse and threatening note did it for me. Monday night was my last day. I am now a man without a site anxiously waiting to start working at a new location.
People are really mean which is the main reason why I love to be alone. Thank God I have enough sense to save money for a rainy day. I hope to be at a site in the next few days.
You say?
When you're ill, especially mentally ill, you often don't work, or work less or in a (toxic) place below your qualifications - how can you pay medical bills with that?
Public, semi-free medical care is a great achievement of civilization. It's sad that in US, as well as in other parts of the world, it's unavailable.
My job is really toxic, they've accused me of things I never did. My managers are terrible, the school cares more about the test than the student's education. I reqlly hate my job!!
Thanks so much
I hate my job but I’m afraid to quit I have asked for help and no one had helped me I’m very overwhelmed and the customers are so angry. Any advice?
Start saving now and start looking for another job. I ruined my health staying at a toxic job.
This video... holy @$. This is it! Hit the nail on the head. Thank you!
The voice in the intro is so cute, peaceful and soothing to the ear. ✨
Perfeito!!
Fear of the unknown yet we all take bank loans to do stupid crap and put ourselves in debt
I was treated like shit at my old ex jobs. Iowa is a trap
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I had a stroke at my job
So sorry. God help us all.
@@LA-wv7gf how are you now?
Amen.
This conversation on depressing toxic work cultures brings to mind Ben Hinson’s poem “Dance of Desolation:”
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You’re up early
Quitting your job on the spot is not silly. I smell your fear. . .
Toxic job? Not possible