Looking forward to the numbers. You usually are closs. It is odd that analysts set nio up for a miss, in this case with revenue. We new the quarter deliveries 1 mth ago
You know what I think is odd is normally Nio pushes their earnings off as long as they can. This time they’re coming up with their earnings after just 2 1/2 months. I think that’s a good sign that they’re going to be decent
On the popular Tradingview platform the expected revenue is 2.72B and earnings -0.274. You are right in saying that the analysts may manipulate the numbers to achieve certain outcomes and stock movements.
Analist are on commission, that being said is 🐂 Good morning Mr Odd, thanks for the information, I got in to the NIO stock in 2019 have a lot of shares and very very low cost; the reason I bought was the principles and the fundamentals and like William Li modesty. I will hold my shares for the future, if not for my grandkids but not selling one share, I believe we have a great stock and I'm not in love with the stock is strictly financial move. Have a great day !
Thanks for the videos Mr Odd. I appreciate your honestly and information sharing relative to NIO stock. I was curious about your thoughts on some of the hidden income and costs that never seem to be revealed (i.e. royalty payments from swap partners, capital expense sharing for battery swap, income from swap expansion to the 8 partners, etc). Nio has never shared this information publicly which leaves the shareholders in the dark. We’d all like to believe that there is a monetary benefit to NIO but none of us really have a clue unfortunately. I wish the management would be more forthcoming to their shareholders.
Thank You for Your time and effort 👏 i feel also very positive about this! Shorts are doing all what they can to keep the price down today, naked shorting is on max level right now.. it’s a clear sign that pump is happening in near term! Anyway keep up the good work and thank You 🙏🏼
Thanks Odd Investor. In your opinion, what level of future vehicle sales and margin per vehicle would NIO and ONVO need to achieve to sustainably support their projected R&D and SG&A expenses?
Thank you..... as what you are stating the market is going to push the share price down. This means adding in the $4.30 range. Should then lower my cost average that is now $7.80 a share. Hope to get to $7.50 soon. Maybe incorrect, but unless a major deal or a blowout report thinking we stay in the trading range. So will slowly add as I have been doing and grateful for this opportunity.
Hello Od Investor, thanks for everything. What do you mean about money from battery swap? Nio have partnership with other companies, but these comapanies does not have cars with swaping battery. I thought that NIO would already have money from the battery swap, but probably not yet. Their business model is in battery swapping, they build them but it does not bring them the money back. They say that nio is not only a car company, but also an energy company, but it does not match that. Maybe I'm getting it wrong, but these are the thoughts that cross my mind. What do you think about it? Thanks for your answer and have a good health
Hello ODD ,I am very respect and following your vidio all the time I am glad to learn a lot from you and you are teaching us very humble ways and honest , God bless you, so my today's question was what's the difference b/n vehcle margin and gross margen also how do we calculate margin ,i just confused these two margins,if you dont mind can you please explain in short ,thank you ,you doing great job,go for it.
The financial report should be good, but what I’m worried about is that the price might go up and then immediately drop. NIO's stock price is hard to hold, like always.....
Agree that NIO has a lot of expansion activities that continue to burn cash. Future should be good but if Firefly will be hybrid then spending money to expand swapping stations should not be a priority. Let the partners build swap stations until NIO becomes a profitable company?
Deliveries of vehicles to be between 72,000 and 75,000 units, representing an increase of approximately 43.9% to 49.9% from the same quarter of 2023. good analysis, future prospects you careful.
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Building more swap does mean it reduce cash (could be netoff by capital injection from partners). However, it does not mean it will show in the p/L . Somehow it will be armortised, the questions i am not sure abt the armortised expense rate, over 7 years maybe..
I think analyst estimate is fair. Rate end sep is 7.01, usd to rmb. The rmb guidance is more important. It shd lands at 19.15b to 19.30b, this include other income (nio power of 2.65b). I expect gross margin to be 10.3%, vehicle margin at 13.0%. Eps will be -2.2rmb (0.31usd). Let see if my. prediction is right. Take note that nio give some guidance on q3, they release q2 result on 5 Sep. Which mean, they have the actual numbers from 1 july to 4 sep. To forecast revenue for 6 sep to 30 sep is not difficult. The surprise from this q3 earning i will say it will come from the almost breakeven point of nio power. I REALLY hope so! Thanks odd investor for this video. What do you think of my comment ?
In your experience is it a common practice that analysts would always expect the highest revenue number to be achieved if the company gives us a range?
Looking at what happened to JD and BABA after earnings I expect a pop then a drop. Shorts will continue to manipulate the stock until Trump takes office in January and Chinese sentiment changes for the better. I’m thinking Second quarter 2025 is when NIO will start 🚀
The very sad part is "no excitement" about the earnings anymore. Good earning, / bad earning Nio will still be down for the Short -Term. The only way if you want stock to go up, you just stop looking at your portfolio and let them do whatever they want, until they done with it.
You make it sound as if Nio has no say. The day they turn a profit short sellers will go away the CEO has to give them a reason to leave. I went through this as a Tesla IPO investor I remember people crying blaming naked shortselling as the problem. Profitability drove the short-sellers into the toilet never to have any power over the share price again.
@@Christopher-tr1xu it's absurd to blame the share price on short/naked short selling. At peak Tesla was facing over 50% short interest almost all of that naked short selling. While I have not looked at Nio percent short of float and days to cover I bet it's not more than 15%. Blaming shorts is a lazy man's weak minded excuse. William Li 100% owns where the share price is today
@ the only way they break even on swap is to sell a lot more cars or slow down swap expansion. There is no possible way swap stations are going to turn a profit with these delivery numbers coupled with the frenwtic pace they are expanding swap stations
Q3'24 earnings results on NIO financials website. Nothing in it to raise the share price with any significance. We'll have to wait and hope for another 3 months.
you will find out this morning when the market opens that your sentiment is not scanning. This company will fill all their lower gaps before the end of the year. Once the slow season of January and February crank up you are going to see unbelievable pain and retest values below book value
thats terrible growth considering the spending rate and the stocks price now..ceo is a problem has zero cost control to bring nio above market expectations..this continues failure on ceo management is killing tis stock..hes driving this stock in a reverse split...when a ceo has no control, specially common sense management of the business he is the direct reason why the stock and the market is punishing nio investors..ceo is terrible in this business. even the onvo roll out is terrible..they will not meet the december number of 10k..
@@atharvmittal179 probably not until next year when new models are released. You can also make an argument that NIO could do a clearance in December for NIO models to make room for newer ones. I am holding my hopes in the first half of 2025.
@@highstakegame I have more faith in the onvos ceo than I do in Nios so I have faith in the Onvo part. Nios ceo ibullshits half the time and I say this as a shareholder.
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Looking forward to the numbers. You usually are closs. It is odd that analysts set nio up for a miss, in this case with revenue. We new the quarter deliveries 1 mth ago
You know what I think is odd is normally Nio pushes their earnings off as long as they can. This time they’re coming up with their earnings after just 2 1/2 months. I think that’s a good sign that they’re going to be decent
@@Slaytheday388 i think it s not up to them
On the popular Tradingview platform the expected revenue is 2.72B and earnings -0.274. You are right in saying that the analysts may manipulate the numbers to achieve certain outcomes and stock movements.
Good morning and thank you !!!!
Analist are on commission, that being said is 🐂 Good morning Mr Odd, thanks for the information, I got in to the NIO stock in 2019 have a lot of shares and very very low cost; the reason I bought was the principles and the fundamentals and like William Li modesty. I will hold my shares for the future, if not for my grandkids but not selling one share, I believe we have a great stock and I'm not in love with the stock is strictly financial move. Have a great day !
Good to hear from you as always
Do you think Nio is shipping cars to the UAE in preparation for the Nio house opening
I would guess 1-2 k units
Thanks for the videos Mr Odd. I appreciate your honestly and information sharing relative to NIO stock. I was curious about your thoughts on some of the hidden income and costs that never seem to be revealed (i.e. royalty payments from swap partners, capital expense sharing for battery swap, income from swap expansion to the 8 partners, etc). Nio has never shared this information publicly which leaves the shareholders in the dark. We’d all like to believe that there is a monetary benefit to NIO but none of us really have a clue unfortunately. I wish the management would be more forthcoming to their shareholders.
Thank You for Your time and effort 👏 i feel also very positive about this! Shorts are doing all what they can to keep the price down today, naked shorting is on max level right now.. it’s a clear sign that pump is happening in near term! Anyway keep up the good work and thank You 🙏🏼
Thanks Odd Investor. In your opinion, what level of future vehicle sales and margin per vehicle would NIO and ONVO need to achieve to sustainably support their projected R&D and SG&A expenses?
Thank you..... as what you are stating the market is going to push the share price down. This means adding in the $4.30 range. Should then lower my cost average that is now $7.80 a share. Hope to get to $7.50 soon. Maybe incorrect, but unless a major deal or a blowout report thinking we stay in the trading range. So will slowly add as I have been doing and grateful for this opportunity.
Good morning
Interesting video thank you 🙏
So busy today, nice to see an Odd review
Hello Od Investor, thanks for everything. What do you mean about money from battery swap? Nio have partnership with other companies, but these comapanies does not have cars with swaping battery. I thought that NIO would already have money from the battery swap, but probably not yet. Their business model is in battery swapping, they build them but it does not bring them the money back. They say that nio is not only a car company, but also an energy company, but it does not match that. Maybe I'm getting it wrong, but these are the thoughts that cross my mind. What do you think about it? Thanks for your answer and have a good health
Should we take EPS GAAP or Non GAAP result ?
Hello ODD ,I am very respect and following your vidio all the time I am glad to learn a lot from you and you are teaching us very humble ways and honest , God bless you, so my today's question was what's the difference b/n vehcle margin and gross margen also how do we calculate margin ,i just confused these two margins,if you dont mind can you please explain in short ,thank you ,you doing great job,go for it.
The financial report should be good, but what I’m worried about is that the price might go up and then immediately drop. NIO's stock price is hard to hold, like always.....
Good news down 2%, bad news down 10%, it's the NIO way! 😭😭😭. All good I have patience and perseverance I'm long on NIO.
That the thing about the market you never know could go down or just take off again.
Agree that NIO has a lot of expansion activities that continue to burn cash.
Future should be good but if Firefly will be hybrid then spending money to expand swapping stations should not be a priority.
Let the partners build swap stations until NIO becomes a profitable company?
@@tyronelowe7090 is pertnar did anything so far
Deliveries of vehicles to be between 72,000 and 75,000 units, representing an increase of
approximately 43.9% to 49.9% from the same quarter of 2023.
good analysis, future prospects you careful.
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Building more swap does mean it reduce cash (could be netoff by capital injection from partners). However, it does not mean it will show in the p/L . Somehow it will be armortised, the questions i am not sure abt the armortised expense rate, over 7 years maybe..
I think analyst estimate is fair. Rate end sep is 7.01, usd to rmb. The rmb guidance is more important. It shd lands at 19.15b to 19.30b, this include other income (nio power of 2.65b). I expect gross margin to be 10.3%, vehicle margin at 13.0%. Eps will be -2.2rmb (0.31usd). Let see if my.
prediction is right. Take note that nio give some guidance on q3, they release q2 result on 5 Sep. Which mean, they have the actual numbers from 1 july to 4 sep. To forecast revenue for 6 sep to 30 sep is not difficult. The surprise from this q3 earning i will say it will come from the almost breakeven point of nio power. I REALLY hope so! Thanks odd investor for this video. What do you think of my comment ?
nio is being sold operationally short
I can agree with you. Analyst are terrible at actually predicting correctly.
Do you think thats intentional?
Thanks amigo
So if I understand this correctly. Being within range is considered a failure. Got it!!
In your experience is it a common practice that analysts would always expect the highest revenue number to be achieved if the company gives us a range?
hellooooooo odd investor EY ....
Looking at what happened to JD and BABA after earnings I expect a pop then a drop. Shorts will continue to manipulate the stock until Trump takes office in January and Chinese sentiment changes for the better. I’m thinking Second quarter 2025 is when NIO will start 🚀
So No !!!!! short squeeze tomorrow amigo ? Gracias 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽
guess not
The very sad part is "no excitement" about the earnings anymore. Good earning, / bad earning Nio will still be down for the Short -Term. The only way if you want stock to go up, you just stop looking at your portfolio and let them do whatever they want, until they done with it.
You make it sound as if Nio has no say. The day they turn a profit short sellers will go away the CEO has to give them a reason to leave. I went through this as a Tesla IPO investor I remember people crying blaming naked shortselling as the problem. Profitability drove the short-sellers into the toilet never to have any power over the share price again.
@@tcraig9831 many of us need to read this. Thanks.
@@Christopher-tr1xu it's absurd to blame the share price on short/naked short selling. At peak Tesla was facing over 50% short interest almost all of that naked short selling. While I have not looked at Nio percent short of float and days to cover I bet it's not more than 15%. Blaming shorts is a lazy man's weak minded excuse. William Li 100% owns where the share price is today
They need to break even on swap, that will get this moving
@ the only way they break even on swap is to sell a lot more cars or slow down swap expansion. There is no possible way swap stations are going to turn a profit with these delivery numbers coupled with the frenwtic pace they are expanding swap stations
Q3'24 earnings results on NIO financials website.
Nothing in it to raise the share price with any significance.
We'll have to wait and hope for another 3 months.
first
ET5, Onvo they failed to keep upto the hype. Promised a lot and delivery is low
BULLISH ON NIO
Third!
LAST CHANCE to buy the dip, outlook is very positive. shorts will run. 2025 will be very good!
Short sellers will run from widening losses? Interesting tell me more
@@tcraig9831 6 billion in cash, China reforms and great outlook. Smart investors get in now! end of shorts!
@@tcraig9831 USD 6billion in cash, great outlook, China reforms. BULLISH!!
you will find out this morning when the market opens that your sentiment is not scanning. This company will fill all their lower gaps before the end of the year. Once the slow season of January and February crank up you are going to see unbelievable pain and retest values below book value
Great Outlook, China reforms, Firelfy and Onvo ramp, so bullish on 2025!
thats terrible growth considering the spending rate and the stocks price now..ceo is a problem has zero cost control to bring nio above market expectations..this continues failure on ceo management is killing tis stock..hes driving this stock in a reverse split...when a ceo has no control, specially common sense management of the business he is the direct reason why the stock and the market is punishing nio investors..ceo is terrible in this business. even the onvo roll out is terrible..they will not meet the december number of 10k..
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@@78MANOFSTEEL If you're that scared of NIO, you should see what Xpeng, Rivian and Lucid are losing.
Good estimate. Same revenue as I expected: $2.64B, gross margin of 12% and operating loss of $650mm; EPS loss of 0.30😮
However I have Q4 deliveries of 68k-69k in Q4 assuming they can sell 10K OnVO in December.
Do you think they can increase the main Nio model because they are having an underwhelming nov
@@atharvmittal179 probably not until next year when new models are released. You can also make an argument that NIO could do a clearance in December for NIO models to make room for newer ones. I am holding my hopes in the first half of 2025.
@@highstakegame I have more faith in the onvos ceo than I do in Nios so I have faith in the Onvo part. Nios ceo ibullshits half the time and I say this as a shareholder.
@@atharvmittal179 so you must have an opinion on what he should do differently. What should he do differently?
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