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not so much how many wins he gets although that will be a requirement of course, for me it will be what difference we see in how the bears operate under Brown to see if things improve enough to give the guy a good chance in landing the role permanently. Brown or no, the front office have to get the next appointment correct and back him.
@guygerard79 there is a chance Greenbay will be guaranteed a playoff spot and might not be playing for anything and rest their starters. That could end up being a lame duck game. Hopefully, that doesn't end up being the case. Ideally would be 5-0. If he loses one of these games, you have to consider other options.
@michaelmanwiller1869 logically, but then you could say how much HEAD coaching experience does Ben Johnson or any of these former coordinators have? Everyone starts on someone else's coaching tree or in a situation where they thrive and are interviewed for a promotion. I personally don't care have any real interest in most of any of the candidates unless it's Kyle Shanahan, and the idiots owe it to the city post not seriously pursuing Harabaugh twice now. Its time for a genuine culture change with an actual winner in the locker room. *Ben Johnson is too run heavy with Detroit this yr for my taste which is why Amon Ra and LaPorta's numbers are way down. I'm not sold on em, personally
110% accurate. He will also be cheaper compared to the other candidates. Bears will want cheap mainly because, well, they are a cheap organization. But they also are paying Eberflushes remaining contract.
Hypothetical - HC: Ben Johnson (calls plays) OC: Lincoln Riley (familiarity with Caleb, first chance to prove self in NFL) DC: Robert Saleh (recent familiarity with NFC North through Green Bay)
Who knows how this plays out but Dan Campbell and that awesome Detroit offensive line isn’t coming with Ben Johnson. I’ve seen a lot of offensive “gurus” get hired and it doesn’t work out because they’re previous players and coaches don’t follow the to the new spot.
@carterbrock - Here are some reasons to believe that Ben Johnson is not the best choice for the Bears. 1. Ben Johnson very possibly doesn't want to be a HC for the Bears. The Bears need to choose a coach that wants to be the HC of the Bears. 2. Ben Johnson's offense only put up 16 points against the Bears. The refs gave the Lions another TD by the gift of the horsecollar penalty that was a legal tackle. The Lions have been scoring 37 points at home before playing the Bears. 3. Ben Johnson is a dome OC. His offense scores 6 more points in a dome vs. outside. The Lions have scored 101 TD's at Home and in Minnesota vs. 59 TD's Away/Not Including Minnesota, over the last 3 seasons since Ben Johnson was OC. 4. Last season, the Lions only scored 13 points when playing at Soldier Field. The season before, Alan Williams was calling plays and the Bears had the worst defense in the NFL for 21 games until Matt Eberflus started calling plays after 4 games in 2023. 5. Is he a coach that Caleb Williams will respect and relate to? What if he came over to the Bears and their offense was initially struggling? How quick would it take for him to lose the team's confidence? It didn't take long with Shane Waldron or Matt Eberflus. If Thomas Brown does well these last 5 weeks and Caleb Williams wants him as his HC, then he should be the head coach in 2025. Thomas Brown already knows the players and how to utilize them. Why go out and take a chance on Ben Johnson? If the Bears decide to hire a coach other than Thomas Brown, I think Liam Coen or Joe Brady are the best candidates. Joe Brady calls games in freezing cold temperatures every season and in the playoffs. He is better suited to call games in Chicago than Ben Johnson.
Ben Johnson is good for one reason and one reason only...the best Oline in football by far. Unimaginative run game that works because of the Oline and then play-action off it. Stop his between the tackles run game and the whole offense falls apart and gimmick crap he looks stupid. Get Kliff he is scheming open schmucks in Wash.
if they hire thomas brown it will be like freddie kitchens or antonio pierce and they will be looking for a hc again after next season. looking better than shane waldron is not difficult to do.
All three candidates show a lot of promise. The fact that these are the three that are being considered definitely makes me feel better about the direction this organization is headed.
These 3 names don’t make me feel better. Ben Johnson isn’t leaving the Lions for the Bears. Thomas Brown is a risky head coaching hire and can potentially be Antonio Pierce all over again. Just because the players wanna fight for him, doesn’t make him a qualified head coach who can win games every week. And Kliff Kingsbury’s offense has been repeatedly exposed between Washington and when he was in Arizona. His gimmicky scheme starts off hot, then cools off as the season goes. Kingsbury’s Cardinals teams were never that serious. I’m just hoping these first couple of coaching names are just bluffs and aren’t serious contenders. Bears need an experienced, veteran coach who can control the whole locker room and get the team focused. An experienced coach who doesn’t pee down his leg late in the 4th quarter and choke.
Ben Johnson is always going to be the top target as long as he puts his name out there because of what he’s done with Jared Goff. But Thomas Brown has a five game audition to show that he can be the guy. Clearly Caleb has played much better since Brown was made the OC. Let’s see how he and the Bears do in these last five games.
BEN JOHNSON SUCKS, HE CAN ONLY BEAT DETRIOT HALF THE TIME WITH HIS OFFENCE ? HE'S NEVER BEEN A HC ,SO WHY WOULD U HIRE HIM ??? THINK LONG AND HARD ABOUT HIRING THIS GUY ???
The Bears remaining schedule is against four above 500 teams with better players and coaches. The other is against the 49ers at San Francisco. The Bears have a real chance of going 0-5 no matter who their head coach is!
Maybe...but Caleb has the potential to ignite the offense - and has done very well putting points on the board in the 2nd-half of the last three games. A good OC head coach will help Caleb do better in the 1st half. More points mean more wins!! Ben Johnson as HC!!!
For me I don't have a certain number of wins. As long as Brown doesn't go 0-5. I want to see the defense play hard for him. I want to see the continued improvement of the Offense. I want to good clock management and end game situations.
No thankyou, we don't want another defensive head coach. Has to be an offense mentality approach. Vrabel has a bad track record of developing young qbs.
@ what side of the ball he’s on is irrelevant, we need someone to bring toughness and accountability. Plus Vrabel is one the smarter coaches when it comes to the margins.
@@VanHallen52 Vrabel had BOTH Lafleur and Arthur Smith as his OC's and they were both poached. To your point, the new HC has got to bring in a solid OC. Vrabel is a good HC and he could bring in Klint Kubiak as OC. I'm not saying Vrabel is my number one, but he definitely fits the mold to be a Bears HC, IMO
@twigwoodman3567 Bears need someone who can maximize the growth out of Caleb Williams. Everything else falls into place with that being the top priority. Never going to win getting sacked more than 5 times a game.
what if they did bring Ben Johnson over his head coach and kept Thomas Brown as OC and Eric Washington as DC, I am actually excited to see what Eric Washington does differently than everfloose, seems to me they both have five games to prove theirselves
Ben Johnsons offense fell of the horse in the 2nd half, so how can anyone think he should be the Bears HC. I have no answer, i am just fed up of the Bears brass and how they handled Poles in the presser with Warren.
All 3 are. Kliff at least has the experience as hc and OC. Familiarity with Caleb. And having success in Washington with two QBs who are similar to Caleb.
I would like to see Mike Vrabel as HC, Brown as OC. Vrabel had the Titans playing well and is a true leader of men. Remember Dan Campbell is the Lions HC
Maybe the Bears should just let Caleb choose the coach. Seriously, if he’s worked with a few of them he can probably make a better decision than the clowns in the Bears front office.
Yeah, let the average rookie QB pick who coaches the entire team. Frankly, the Bears are in this situation because they've abandon their set direction and started making all their the decision I'ma a rookie.
I’m really pulling for Thomas Brown to get this team playing up to their potential. They need to add some ringers to the O-line and another good pass-rusher … we’re *just* not getting to the QB and giving him too much time. I think this team is close to being a team that can make a deep playoff-run. They’re in every game with a chance to win in the 4th Quarter. They’ve only been blown-out twice after the Hail Mary in Washington. When they came out flat against Arizona, Flus should have been fired. A good coach would have rallied the team and had them ready to destroy the Cardinals. That’s when Flus lost the locker room.
I understand the appeal of hiring a coach with HC experience. But these guys are available for a reason. They failed and were fired or resigned. I'm totally down with getting an OC or DC, but I'm not interested in another teams sloppy seconds (Kliff, Belichick, etc). I have serious concerns about Ben Johnson as well. My gut tells me he's getting a ton of credit for a loaded roster with an alpha HC...just not sure how much their success is directly influenced by him. I'd love if the Bears could poach the Browns HC, Stefanski but the dream scenario is Thomas Brown proves he's that dude.
Brown needs 1 of 2 scenarios to happen in order to be legitimately considered. 1. Go 5-0. 2. Can lose games but be extremely competitive in those games (zero blowouts) and have a strong connection with the team. The players need to have his back 100% no question.
Brown has impressed me even before played first game. For consistency, as long stay competitive and don't go 0-5..Strongly consider him. I do think he can command the room. Johnson has coached in winning culture.
Sounds like they are looking for Lovie! Funny how the McCaskeys let the GM fire lovie after 10-6 seakson but Poles couldn't fire Everloose after New England when they could still salvage the season!
Chicago Bears organization really need to think about this. They should see how the next couple games go with Tomas Brown as HC. If the plans go south I think Bill Belichick is the best and safest option. He has a wealth of knowledge for the game of football.
These clowns won't even talk to him. They blew it with Harbaugh and they'll blow it with whoever else they manage to snag. Ben Johnson is intriguing but... Not another middle schooler education camp for HC, please. Just get us the guy with proven experience.
I think the best football mind out there has to be Bill B. Until he started doing interviews I think lots of people were thinking Brady is the only reason he has had any success, but if you listen to him and people that were coached by him, you can tell, he is the reason that team was successful even in the down years….. I think he would be the best football mind we have had in my life time….
Ben Johnson is the hot choice on the head coaching market but he needs to have a plan for a solid coaching staff. The Lions won't just let him take his pick of there assistant coaches. Be interesting to find out who Johnson wants as his DC.
Only way I'd hire Bill B, is if he bring McDaniels with him as OC. IF NOT, I'd hire Ben Johnson, let him choose his ownDC, and OC. The problem is, we wouldn't be in this position if we would have fired everyone last year... the cycle continues. Fuck it fire everyone at the end of the year, start completely new. Pres, GM, all coaches. If you can't hire above names mentioned, there is Gruden, Riley, Vrabel, Kingsbury, they all have Head coaching resumes.
TB all the way. He’s already connected with the players. If he can hire the right staff around him, you’ll have a leader holding all other coaches and players accountable, making them dependable and reliable.
I’m sure if Thomas brown wins all 5 games he’ll more than likely be our new HC for 2025. Let’s pray Chris Beaty can deliver as an OC. I’d still interview other HC’s though.
He has to be 3-2 IF he were to be considered, but the record is 2nd most important. It’s how they play and how Caleb progresses. IF he takes off and they they look good losing then that’s a different story
Honestly it’s gonna be tough but we should def. Win 2/5 games . Regardless Thomas is picking up the slack so we just wanna see the bears obviously win but rather see then fight like they want to play and protect CW
Geezus these are the 3 weakest possible HCs. The guy from Carolina (say no more). a guy who has never been a hc and one that the media is braying about (caution) and then KK. These are the three best options? Hell i'd take Flus! Come on guys we need a proven HC not someone learning on the job. PLEASE not any of these lightweights!
I don't think Brown needs to prove anything to be a candidate. He pushed Detroit to the brink. Detroit is elite - a Super Bowl favorite. Maybe the favorite. That convinced me. I expect the Bears will continue to improve under Brown. Wins/losses is not what you look at. I do expect at least two more wins. Or more. But Brown could be a diamond in the rough. I would watch him closely - how he manages the game. He's young. If he can keep the team rising on a positive progression - the wins are going to come. This year and next. A home grown HC with potential to be a long term franchise HC is way better than just hiring the latest mercenary guy for a couple season.
All you people like to take a guess. If you're wrong, then you're screwed. By the time the Bears find the right coach, Caleb Williams's good career is already over or half over. Best to choose a head coach who already has a proven track record in a pro level. Good offensive coordinator or good defensive coordinator don't translate into a good head coach. It's a totally different job.
I like Thomas brown but if Ben Johnson considered to be top of the league in offensive scheme and play calling. Then you have to get him for Caleb. I hope the bears are not cheap. Go for Shanahan and reunite him with salah as defensive coordinator that would be nice to lol even though I don’t believe the Niners will let him go.
If you keep TB and we have a losing season next year, we will be repeating this cycle yet again. Just get Ben Johnson so we can have at least 2-3 seasons of coaching stability
Ben Johnson has positioned himself to be a top candidate. There is no way he accepts a job to coach the pitiful Bears franchise. Da Bears fans are delusional 😂
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3 to 4 nothing less
3-2
3/2 and be competitive in the 2 losses
I think he's got to win a minimum of 3 to be considered. I believe he can do it and I'm excited to see him on the sideline on Sunday!
not so much how many wins he gets although that will be a requirement of course, for me it will be what difference we see in how the bears operate under Brown to see if things improve enough to give the guy a good chance in landing the role permanently. Brown or no, the front office have to get the next appointment correct and back him.
3-2 with one of the wins being GB
If he beats GB I say we keep him without a doubt
Can't make him HC after a 5 game audition. I just kind of just the vibe that maybe they're pushing this guy so hard. Be sensible!
@guygerard79 there is a chance Greenbay will be guaranteed a playoff spot and might not be playing for anything and rest their starters. That could end up being a lame duck game. Hopefully, that doesn't end up being the case. Ideally would be 5-0. If he loses one of these games, you have to consider other options.
@michaelmanwiller1869 logically, but then you could say how much HEAD coaching experience does Ben Johnson or any of these former coordinators have? Everyone starts on someone else's coaching tree or in a situation where they thrive and are interviewed for a promotion. I personally don't care have any real interest in most of any of the candidates unless it's Kyle Shanahan, and the idiots owe it to the city post not seriously pursuing Harabaugh twice now. Its time for a genuine culture change with an actual winner in the locker room. *Ben Johnson is too run heavy with Detroit this yr for my taste which is why Amon Ra and LaPorta's numbers are way down. I'm not sold on em, personally
110% accurate. He will also be cheaper compared to the other candidates. Bears will want cheap mainly because, well, they are a cheap organization. But they also are paying Eberflushes remaining contract.
Kliff Kingsbury is over hyped!!!!!
Holy shit I honestly hope they don't hire him 😬
NO KLINGSBURY!
@@georgesimonis7019no hell no
Seriously, this would be the next f-up.
Please god NO!
They will choose the least expensive option. Easy to see
Cheapest option is TB
Yep.
Exactly and it will be calebs 3rd oc in 2 years
exactly
Hypothetical -
HC: Ben Johnson (calls plays)
OC: Lincoln Riley (familiarity with Caleb, first chance to prove self in NFL)
DC: Robert Saleh (recent familiarity with NFC North through Green Bay)
Why would Riley leave his current gig?
If Ben Johnson is fired, he’s bringing in his own staff. Thomas Brown wouldn’t even stay as OC
Alternative Hypothetical: Keep Lincoln Riley's loser ass tf away from this franchise.
No to Saleh, no need for a 3-4 scheme. They simply need to abandoned that bend or break cover 2 BS, and allow the dogs to blitz more.
Lincoln Riley sucks as a head coach in USC. We need a head coach. Not a QB coach.
Who knows how this plays out but Dan Campbell and that awesome Detroit offensive line isn’t coming with Ben Johnson. I’ve seen a lot of offensive “gurus” get hired and it doesn’t work out because they’re previous players and coaches don’t follow the to the new spot.
@@romanobears3470 Ben Johnson is awesome, but without a good offensive line, even the best OC would struggle.
cant deny that he will be 1 on alot of teams lists.
Bears need go all in on Oline in draft and FA which I’m sure Ben Johnson would push for
@ For sure, whoever the HC is.
Ben Johnson don't overthink it
Ben Johnson or bust. Stop with all of this T Brown the team played hard stuff. That's how Flues got here.
@carterbrock - Here are some reasons to believe that Ben Johnson is not the best choice for the Bears.
1. Ben Johnson very possibly doesn't want to be a HC for the Bears. The Bears need to choose a coach that wants to be the HC of the Bears.
2. Ben Johnson's offense only put up 16 points against the Bears. The refs gave the Lions another TD by the gift of the horsecollar penalty that was a legal tackle. The Lions have been scoring 37 points at home before playing the Bears.
3. Ben Johnson is a dome OC. His offense scores 6 more points in a dome vs. outside. The Lions have scored 101 TD's at Home and in Minnesota vs. 59 TD's Away/Not Including Minnesota, over the last 3 seasons since Ben Johnson was OC.
4. Last season, the Lions only scored 13 points when playing at Soldier Field. The season before, Alan Williams was calling plays and the Bears had the worst defense in the NFL for 21 games until Matt Eberflus started calling plays after 4 games in 2023.
5. Is he a coach that Caleb Williams will respect and relate to? What if he came over to the Bears and their offense was initially struggling? How quick would it take for him to lose the team's confidence? It didn't take long with Shane Waldron or Matt Eberflus.
If Thomas Brown does well these last 5 weeks and Caleb Williams wants him as his HC, then he should be the head coach in 2025. Thomas Brown already knows the players and how to utilize them. Why go out and take a chance on Ben Johnson?
If the Bears decide to hire a coach other than Thomas Brown, I think Liam Coen or Joe Brady are the best candidates. Joe Brady calls games in freezing cold temperatures every season and in the playoffs. He is better suited to call games in Chicago than Ben Johnson.
Ben Johnson is good for one reason and one reason only...the best Oline in football by far. Unimaginative run game that works because of the Oline and then play-action off it. Stop his between the tackles run game and the whole offense falls apart and gimmick crap he looks stupid. Get Kliff he is scheming open schmucks in Wash.
@@dokedoker3340THANK you…
@@dokedoker3340 LOL. Kliff has already been figured out twice, he's poor at adjusting...
The players will probably rally around him. The question is will that same energy be around next season
if they hire thomas brown it will be like freddie kitchens or antonio pierce and they will be looking for a hc again after next season. looking better than shane waldron is not difficult to do.
All three candidates show a lot of promise. The fact that these are the three that are being considered definitely makes me feel better about the direction this organization is headed.
Yessir let's definitely get it done 🐻 👇🏾 🐾
These 3 names don’t make me feel better. Ben Johnson isn’t leaving the Lions for the Bears. Thomas Brown is a risky head coaching hire and can potentially be Antonio Pierce all over again. Just because the players wanna fight for him, doesn’t make him a qualified head coach who can win games every week. And Kliff Kingsbury’s offense has been repeatedly exposed between Washington and when he was in Arizona. His gimmicky scheme starts off hot, then cools off as the season goes. Kingsbury’s Cardinals teams were never that serious.
I’m just hoping these first couple of coaching names are just bluffs and aren’t serious contenders. Bears need an experienced, veteran coach who can control the whole locker room and get the team focused. An experienced coach who doesn’t pee down his leg late in the 4th quarter and choke.
@@Voysh2Voysh69 Isn't Ben Johnson going on the market at the end of this season? If yes, then now is the time to secure him for the Bears.
Ben Johnson is always going to be the top target as long as he puts his name out there because of what he’s done with Jared Goff. But Thomas Brown has a five game audition to show that he can be the guy. Clearly Caleb has played much better since Brown was made the OC. Let’s see how he and the Bears do in these last five games.
Tbf the lions have been building their Oline for years at this point to protect Stafford before they swapped to Goff
I’d take Ben Johnson if he can bring Penny Sewell with him
All offensive is a good start. I feel like if Ben Johnson gets to interview hes going to knock it out of the park
Based on what
BEN JOHNSON! BEN JOHNSON!
BEN JOHNSON SUCKS, HE CAN ONLY BEAT DETRIOT HALF THE TIME WITH HIS OFFENCE ? HE'S NEVER BEEN A HC ,SO WHY WOULD U HIRE HIM ??? THINK LONG AND HARD ABOUT HIRING THIS GUY ???
How you know his system will work with our players? I don't want him trying to turn Caleb into Goff. I'd rather keep Brown
@ first of all don’t yell at me. Second of all it’s Ben Johnson!
@ how do you know it won’t? We have better skill players than Detroit except at RB
Stop with ben Johnson.
Come on. Get a coach with playoff experience, superbowl experience. Look what Andy Reid did with the Chiefs.
I like Andy Reid, but I attribute most of the Chiefs’ success to to their QB, some guy named Mahomes🤷🏻♂️
Absolutely Correct!
The Bears remaining schedule is against four above 500 teams with better players and coaches. The other is against the 49ers at San Francisco. The Bears have a real chance of going 0-5 no matter who their head coach is!
Brown should get an honest shot at the gig but you gotta be careful - players rallied around Flus last year too.. see how that turned out
The bears hiring the oc of one of the top offenses in the league... haven't we done this before?
Maybe...but Caleb has the potential to ignite the offense - and has done very well putting points on the board in the 2nd-half of the last three games. A good OC head coach will help Caleb do better in the 1st half. More points mean more wins!! Ben Johnson as HC!!!
For me I don't have a certain number of wins. As long as Brown doesn't go 0-5. I want to see the defense play hard for him. I want to see the continued improvement of the Offense. I want to good clock management and end game situations.
Vrabel and only Vrabel to level up the lockeroom.
No thankyou, we don't want another defensive head coach. Has to be an offense mentality approach. Vrabel has a bad track record of developing young qbs.
@ what side of the ball he’s on is irrelevant, we need someone to bring toughness and accountability. Plus Vrabel is one the smarter coaches when it comes to the margins.
@@twigwoodman3567 It's not irrelevant.. Especially since this team has been struggling offensively for ever. Bad take my guy.
@@VanHallen52 Vrabel had BOTH Lafleur and Arthur Smith as his OC's and they were both poached. To your point, the new HC has got to bring in a solid OC. Vrabel is a good HC and he could bring in Klint Kubiak as OC. I'm not saying Vrabel is my number one, but he definitely fits the mold to be a Bears HC, IMO
@twigwoodman3567 Bears need someone who can maximize the growth out of Caleb Williams. Everything else falls into place with that being the top priority. Never going to win getting sacked more than 5 times a game.
KEN KEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’ll be at the SF vs CHI game ! Cant wait to see what Thomas Brown can do! If we win I’ll cry
what if they did bring Ben Johnson over his head coach and kept Thomas Brown as OC and Eric Washington as DC, I am actually excited to see what Eric Washington does differently than everfloose, seems to me they both have five games to prove theirselves
Ben Johnsons offense fell of the horse in the 2nd half, so how can anyone think he should be the Bears HC. I have no answer, i am just fed up of the
Bears brass and how they handled Poles in the presser with Warren.
Kliff Kingsbury would BURY the Bears for a long long time! Wow!
All 3 are. Kliff at least has the experience as hc and OC. Familiarity with Caleb. And having success in Washington with two QBs who are similar to Caleb.
I would like to see Mike Vrabel as HC, Brown as OC. Vrabel had the Titans playing well and is a true leader of men. Remember Dan Campbell is the Lions HC
Maybe the Bears should just let Caleb choose the coach. Seriously, if he’s worked with a few of them he can probably make a better decision than the clowns in the Bears front office.
Yeah, let the average rookie QB pick who coaches the entire team.
Frankly, the Bears are in this situation because they've abandon their set direction and started making all their the decision I'ma a rookie.
Probably not, but he should at least be in the room during interviews
@@captaincaveman6539 He is a rookie. He has no say whatsoever in picking a new coach!!
@@sevinbamuels6560 What's really frightening is that they actually believe it!!
I’ve never seen Ben Johnson even crack a smile I’m pretty sure he demands the room
Kliff Kingsbury HC
Lincoln Riley OC
Vance Joseph DC
I just want an offensive guy, with big kahoonas, and instill confidence in all the players, cause as you know this is a team sport.
Win 3 and one being GB
What about Gruden? Also I think TB needs to go 5-0 or 4-1 and beat all the NFC north teams to be considered seriously for the position.
I’m really pulling for Thomas Brown to get this team playing up to their potential.
They need to add some ringers to the O-line and another good pass-rusher … we’re *just* not getting to the QB and giving him too much time.
I think this team is close to being a team that can make a deep playoff-run. They’re in every game with a chance to win in the 4th Quarter. They’ve only been blown-out twice after the Hail Mary in Washington. When they came out flat against Arizona, Flus should have been fired. A good coach would have rallied the team and had them ready to destroy the Cardinals. That’s when Flus lost the locker room.
He needs to win all 5
Nobody would win all 5 with this team.
Ben Johnson is over hyped!!!!!!
3-2 with a GB win
I understand the appeal of hiring a coach with HC experience. But these guys are available for a reason. They failed and were fired or resigned. I'm totally down with getting an OC or DC, but I'm not interested in another teams sloppy seconds (Kliff, Belichick, etc). I have serious concerns about Ben Johnson as well. My gut tells me he's getting a ton of credit for a loaded roster with an alpha HC...just not sure how much their success is directly influenced by him. I'd love if the Bears could poach the Browns HC, Stefanski but the dream scenario is Thomas Brown proves he's that dude.
Zero Johnson is the guy
Brown needs 1 of 2 scenarios to happen in order to be legitimately considered. 1. Go 5-0. 2. Can lose games but be extremely competitive in those games (zero blowouts) and have a strong connection with the team. The players need to have his back 100% no question.
Brown has impressed me even before played first game. For consistency, as long stay competitive and don't go 0-5..Strongly consider him. I do think he can command the room. Johnson has coached in winning culture.
MikeVrabel
Sounds like they are looking for Lovie! Funny how the McCaskeys let the GM fire lovie after 10-6 seakson but Poles couldn't fire Everloose after New England when they could still salvage the season!
Lovie Smith as DC / Lions Oc as Head Coach💯
we haven’t had a good or even decent coach since lovie smh
I like Ben Johnson HC. Robert Saleh DC. Thomas Brown OC!
@@Terminator-ht3sx Lovie was mids at best, but you're right, and this ownership will continue the milktoast tradition
If the Bears finish out the season strong, just remember it's still Matt Eberflus's team. You can't take that away from the man.
If he wins only 2 they need to be divisional but ideally 3
If he’s the lowest cost option then he will be the HC
Chicago Bears organization really need to think about this. They should see how the next couple games go with Tomas Brown as HC. If the plans go south I think Bill Belichick is the best and safest option. He has a wealth of knowledge for the game of football.
Bill Belichick a no-brainer. Then again, Bears haven't hired a competent HC in decades, so that won't happen.
These clowns won't even talk to him. They blew it with Harbaugh and they'll blow it with whoever else they manage to snag.
Ben Johnson is intriguing but... Not another middle schooler education camp for HC, please. Just get us the guy with proven experience.
Bill no brainer??? Ur dumb lmao check out the record with out Brady ,,,,,,don’t worry I’ll wait
Chances for Brown to be the next permanent head coach based on record: 5-0: 99.99%; 4-1: 90%; 3-2: 60%, but with context; 2-3: 35%; 1-4: 5%; 0-5: 0.1%
You can't judge Brown by wins this season, he inherited this nightmare. If the O looks competent under him then he is the man!
I believe you poach a current head coach on a consistently good team and offer whatever it takes to get them.
3 & 2 for shoe-in. 2 and 3 with strong offensive execution performances, might also do it.
I think the best football mind out there has to be Bill B. Until he started doing interviews I think lots of people were thinking Brady is the only reason he has had any success, but if you listen to him and people that were coached by him, you can tell, he is the reason that team was successful even in the down years….. I think he would be the best football mind we have had in my life time….
Ben Johnson is the hot choice on the head coaching market but he needs to have a plan for a solid coaching staff. The Lions won't just let him take his pick of there assistant coaches. Be interesting to find out who Johnson wants as his DC.
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Harrison’s wig is nice
Good list.
Every talking Ben Johnson just because he doing good with Lion not sure about him
Your over thinking
Only way I'd hire Bill B, is if he bring McDaniels with him as OC. IF NOT, I'd hire Ben Johnson, let him choose his ownDC, and OC. The problem is, we wouldn't be in this position if we would have fired everyone last year... the cycle continues. Fuck it fire everyone at the end of the year, start completely new.
Pres, GM, all coaches. If you can't hire above names mentioned, there is Gruden, Riley, Vrabel, Kingsbury, they all have Head coaching resumes.
Brown: wins shouldn’t determine it, player’s response to him should
I think if he went 3-2 with 3 division wins and Caleb continues on this trajectory, maybe even ROTY then I think there will be serious considerations
Brown if he shows something or Ben Johnson if he leaves Detroit.
TB all the way. He’s already connected with the players. If he can hire the right staff around him, you’ll have a leader holding all other coaches and players accountable, making them dependable and reliable.
to be a real consideration, 3-2 with both non-divisional and 1 divisional, to be signed 4-1 winning 2 divisonal
I’m sure if Thomas brown wins all 5 games he’ll more than likely be our new HC for 2025. Let’s pray Chris Beaty can deliver as an OC. I’d still interview other HC’s though.
He has to be 3-2 IF he were to be considered, but the record is 2nd most important. It’s how they play and how Caleb progresses. IF he takes off and they they look good losing then that’s a different story
Definately, Detroit Lions OC Ben Johnson!!
How about Jim Bob Cooter?? Matt Fatricia?? Chris Morgan?? Dream big!!!
3-2 for consideration, 4-1 or 5-0 to definitely be the head coach next year.
4-1 minimum. 5-0 give him a 1 year coach deal. Teams need to start doing that.
Thomas Brown HC and Eric Bienemy as OC he did great in KC.
Stop the cycle! Hire Bill Belichick!
Hell no
Honestly it’s gonna be tough but we should def. Win 2/5 games . Regardless Thomas is picking up the slack so we just wanna see the bears obviously win but rather see then fight like they want to play and protect CW
I think if Thomas Brown goes 3-2 he has a chance to get the head coaching job.
Ben Johnson doesn’t have the leadership skills.Listen to his pressers. Doesn’t command the room in my opinion
I think if we win all 5 games he needs to be the head coach. If we win 4 he needs to be the favorite
Geezus these are the 3 weakest possible HCs. The guy from Carolina (say no more). a guy who has never been a hc and one that the media is braying about (caution) and then KK. These are the three best options? Hell i'd take Flus! Come on guys we need a proven HC not someone learning on the job. PLEASE not any of these lightweights!
Nobody has mention Bill Belichick,,He's also available and I would take him in a heartbeat.
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I'd need to see him run all 5 of these games
I don't think Brown needs to prove anything to be a candidate. He pushed Detroit to the brink. Detroit is elite - a Super Bowl favorite. Maybe the favorite. That convinced me. I expect the Bears will continue to improve under Brown. Wins/losses is not what you look at. I do expect at least two more wins. Or more. But Brown could be a diamond in the rough. I would watch him closely - how he manages the game. He's young. If he can keep the team rising on a positive progression - the wins are going to come. This year and next. A home grown HC with potential to be a long term franchise HC is way better than just hiring the latest mercenary guy for a couple season.
Dave Kaplan had said it was the mcasky's decision to keep eburfluse. A decision Ryan poles had no say in.
He definitely has to be above 500!
More than anything, the offense needs to look like a new age offense.
All you people like to take a guess. If you're wrong, then you're screwed. By the time the Bears find the right coach, Caleb Williams's good career is already over or half over. Best to choose a head coach who already has a proven track record in a pro level. Good offensive coordinator or good defensive coordinator don't translate into a good head coach. It's a totally different job.
I think it would be Thomas Brown
Will the Bears pay Ben Johnson what he will demand? I don't think so. They will go with Thomas Brown.
Gruden for my money.He is able to motivate both offense & defense.Then all u need is a talented OC.
I like Thomas brown but if Ben Johnson considered to be top of the league in offensive scheme and play calling. Then you have to get him for Caleb. I hope the bears are not cheap. Go for Shanahan and reunite him with salah as defensive coordinator that would be nice to lol even though I don’t believe the Niners will let him go.
This coach speculation before the season is even over is a bigger waste of time than the Bears in a 2 minute situation.
Beat greenbay
5 wins
brown needs 4 to convince me, 5 I would rally for him to be hc, but 3 it would depend on other variables
If you keep TB and we have a losing season next year, we will be repeating this cycle yet again. Just get Ben Johnson so we can have at least 2-3 seasons of coaching stability
4 & 1 Should be good enough to keep thomas brown
Thomas Brown all the way !
He would have to have 2-3 and at least play close on the three losses. He also can't struggle the way Flus was.
Ben Johnson has positioned himself to be a top candidate. There is no way he accepts a job to coach the pitiful Bears franchise. Da Bears fans are delusional 😂
I really think they should give Greg Roman a shot
All he has to do is win the division games especially the Lions because they have Ben Johnson.
I want Ben Johnson Kellen Moore and Joe Brady might be good picks too
The bears shutdown Detroit in the second half so no
Brown need 3 wins, to secure the permanent spot, but 2 of the 3 must be against the division