Gun Restoration, 1863 Remington Black Powder Revolver
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- #magnetfishing #thekinzlerbros #restoration
New developments on this Revolver have come to light after some further research and help from some gun enthusiasts. The gun has been confirmed to be a 1863 Remington with a replica barrel. The stamped serial numbers on the trigger guard confirm this. Along with the letter stamped on the Cylinder. Also the bottom of the frame has a serial number out of 20,000. Hello everyone we found this gun magnet fishing in our hometown of only 15,387 people. We are new to restoring old weapons. So we do not know what we are doing 100%. If you need a magnet or wish to donate to helping us clean more rivers links are below. Thanks for watching!!
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An easy rust removal trick is to totally disassemble the gun, soak the parts (Minus the grips) in mineral spirits for a day, and scrub the parts with steel wool. If there's still rust, spray with mineral spirits and scrub again until done. For really hard rust, use a dremel with a wire brush attachment. For the grips, soak and/or spray with Simple Green and scrub with a hard bristle brush (Not wire or brass). Also, I'd recommend refinishing the gun to make it last longer. You can buy bottles of gun bluing finish and stock finish at most gun stores and sporting goods stores (Walmart even has it). I'm not a professional gunsmith by any means, this is just my personal technique I use. Best of luck to you and I can't wait to see more guns videos like this.
thanks so much for the advice i can use that to restore my 1969 ruger 357 magnum black hawk i found. We have restored a sawed off shotgun on the channel as well and we did a way better job filming and restoring as well. We did not blue the shogun because of the horrible pitting. But the Ruger will get re blued we already have the kit for it thanks.
Also I would wipe the gun down with oil to keep surface rust off
Boil the pistol. Boiling can convert the rust back into blueing. Check out Mark Novak or Anvil youtube before you strip the finish off
I kept yelling "for the love of GOD stop rinsing it off with water" use mineral spirits or acetone.
@@jeepman19 Ive seen them do that its amazing what just boiling can do...
Stop the horrible, loud music.
sorry you did not enjoy the music, but alot of other restorations i watched had music in them i will be doing it way better the second time around which is soon
@@TheKinzlerBros it was a bit too loud and distractive that's all
@@TheKinzlerBros it like you open it from iphone when you recording
@@TheKinzlerBros sounds like you had two songs playing at once, and the more popular restoration channels don't play anything most of the time
@@matthewrayborn8557 ya it won't be happening in any future restorations!
The gunsmith in me cringes, BUT, given the fact that there is literally no collector value in the gun and they’re not gunsmiths, I actually think they did a pretty good job turning it into a cool story and a nice wall hanger.
Thanks Matt we appreciate it, we are learning and getting better. thanks for watching
@@TheKinzlerBros pro tip - boil the steel parts, convert the rust, then use 0000 steel wool to card it off. You'll be surprised at how well it comes out!
@@mattpatton8887 Very interesting thanks for the tip buddy
Just a wall hanger though. It's a pity... You haven't noticed on that gun the rotation cylinder hand was missing. That apart nice work.
A few parts and I could make that gun run again. the pressure for black powder is really low and it would probably run fine. At least for a test and then back to the wall.
I'm just here for all the comments from the master gunsmiths of the internet
yea i know the video is horrible done bad, the music was bad, the voiceover was bad, and the restoration was sub par and not done all the way through hence the nipples were not taken off and cleaned out! Im aware of this, it was my very first time cleaning a completely rusted out gun. did not spend any time watching how to properly restore a gun. SO yea i agree it was not a good video if i would have done a good job it could have a million views instead of 135,000
@@TheKinzlerBros hey man its better then no video and its still cool to watch
NOT the screw driver to use on a gun!
Really kool video! Love the fact you found it and then brought it back!! 👍🏻
@@catoway312 brought it back , home ? Haha I made a funny
Stop hating y'all, they tried their best on it, it came out to look pretty damn good compared from what it looked like from the start, But not bad! Good Job.
Thanks Buddy we appreciate it, we know we made some mistakes along the way in the restoration process along with how the video was edited, we are working on two other ones that we found in the water as well and they will be better, thanks for watching!
@@TheKinzlerBros Np!
@@TheKinzlerBros I look forward to seeing the other 2!
Honestly, great job guys.
I'm glad to see this revolver saved from just rusting at the bottom of a creek.
Makes for one hell of a story too.
Thanks Chris, much appreciated, ya its an awesome conversation piece, thanks for watching!
This channel sure has come a long way since this video was made.
Woulda been cool to see this one fire.
Ya that is restoration number 1, ya it would've but, we didn't know better at the time. Thanks for watching
Imagine an old man (or women) watching this like "Holy shit, that was my gun" I hope they don't find the body"
yea i hope that does not happen and they come for me.
Its an Italian Repo- it aint that old
I used to work for Navy Arms. The owner, Val Forgett Sr, started the whole reproduction firearms industry virtually single handed. He took museum quality examples of the original guns, made new machine drawings of them then contracted Italian arms makers to produce the guns. Uberti, Armi San Marco, Pedrosoli. He brought guns and cartridges back that hadn’t been around in many many years. The quality was high. Many people thought they were just expensive toys until he went to Africa with one of his black powder rifles and took the big five with them. He was friends with Bill Ruger and together they pioneered the use of investment casting to make production gun parts. I had a great time working for that company, I liked seeing the care and effort you put into restoring that weapon for display. Unfortunately he passed years ago but I’m sure he would have appreciated it as well.
oh wow thanks so much for sharing that awesome story, i loved it. We have a Ruger now too that we just started restoring tonight. It is a 1969 old model 357 magnum black hawk. We found it loaded too, called the cops and they took it from us but i kept in touch with them and six months later we got it back because it was not tied to anything. We got it back loaded and we are now disassembling it. Thanks for watching, this video was our first of restoring anything so we did not know what we were doing. But now we have done a shotgun since then this resto that turned out awesome i hope you get a chance to watch it. Thanks Again James
hey everyone i know this video is not very pleasing it was our first attempt to restore anything, i also think the music is not great etc.. but we have two more restorations coming up of two different guns, if you would like to see those when they come out consider subscribing and supporting us cleaning up the rivers and lakes!
When you cock the hammer back the cylinder is supposed to rotate something is still not right
I think you did well with the find and making it a great display 👏👍
Don’t worry these guns are worth practically nothing I bought a 51 navy for less then 300
What fun. How enormously satisfying to drag something out of a creek bottom, looking the way it did, and to reach down through all that crud and revive a clean and beautiful piece of steel machinery. Well done. And entertaining to watch!
Thanks David we appreciate that very much, this was our first gun restoration so we have gotten a little better. Ya it was really satisfying in the end for sure. Thanks again for the kind words and for watching!
electrolysis would have cleaned it overnight
Well i have heard that and i think i will look into that if i find another weapon or object worth restoring
Yea but he would've had to do extra rust removal, dirt, and etc but yea it would've done 85 percent of the work
Electrolysis would absolutely be the way to go .
What if it still was loaded would that of been prob?
@@sorrycactus I dont think. It could that's why you should check
Looks right purty in the display case! Good job gentlemen's!
Thank you very much Pete!
Thank you for sharing the step by step process you used in the restoration of this fantastic find, it is appreciated.
Thanks Dennis we appreciate the very nice comment!
Wow, you guys sure have came along way since this video. I'm impressed since I started watching your newer content first. Keep up the good work guys!
Thanks, I agree! That first one wasn't great! Thanks for watching
I was thinking the same thing. This video is almost painful to watch. 😂 Hey? You gotta start somewhere. Right? I can't believe the hater's you had to deal with on that British musket.
Awesome video guys, fun to see it from you getting out of the river to when you have it all cleaned up and displayed. Nice work!
yup so do u want to go magnet fishing tmrw?
When?
Absolutely AMAZING find and equally beautiful restoration and display, excellent job guys!!
thanks very much
Melinda Fox that was just cleaning
Nice job on the restoration Bros.! Loved watching the whole process. You guys are the best. Looking forward to more restores.
Thanks buddy we appreciate it!, We have a couple in the works right now the loaded ruger we found and the shotgun!
DUDE! Well done! That turned out amazing! Love the display box!
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Seeing that family bible was awesome!! You did a good job on that pistol!!🍻👍
Thanks, thank you very much for watching
Overall, a nice job. Great display piece!
Thank you very much, we appreciate it!
Great job guys. Keep fishing.
Thanks! Will do!
Jesus Christ !! r these dudes for freakin' real.. a display case. M A Y B E !!!
thanks for watching
You did so many things the hard way but you said you're new to this so all is forgiven. I'm glad y'all had fun.
yes we were new to it and you are one of the few people that took our lack of inexperience into consideration when blasting us haha, thanks for watching we are currently restoring three other guns now, a sawed off shotgun, Ruger 357 magnum blackhawk, and possibly a 1900's smith and wesson snub nose!
This content is great, some people might talk shit but most of them have never done any type of restoration at all. Id rather see somebody start this project with no experience than throw the gun in the trash. Plus the majority of people watching are also seeing what you do correct and what youre doing incorrect, and in many situations seeing something incorrect is just as good because of the "how not to do it aspect". Anyways thanks for your video and keep making these types of videos. We'd love to see the knowledge youve gained with your experience!
yes one hundred percent agree with you on that doing things or using things that did not work will help other not make our mistake. thanks so much for this awesome comment. We always comment back to everyone so if you comment you will hear back. thanks again
Beautiful Restoration!!!
Thank you!
Nice really cool
What a classic revolver. Nicely saved.
Thank you so much for watching
Congrats on your project! That was an awsome find, a real once in a lifetime event. Good job with your process, too. I applaud your restraint in not trying to get it all done in one day. I liked the display case and the plaque was just a nice bonus! What a conversation piece! Looking forward to seeing your other videos. 😎👍
Thanks Jim we appreciate the positive feedback. Ya we really enjoyed the process and we can't wait to do more in the future. thanks for watching
Good job Guys.
Thank you so much.
That isn’t a Restoration, sorry you need to complete the steel finish
Ya your right, we should do that!
Electrolysis is the best way to remove rust. The process actually can replace some of the eroded metal as well. Texas A&M has a really good set of instructions on the process.
Ya this was our first restoration, so we didn't know much, thanks for the tip and for watching!
I love that you are so skilled to be able to restore your finds and it’s so fun to be a part of the journey from find to finished restore. Beautiful job.
thanks so much for the nice words
Very Nice!!!!
Thanks!!
Need some gun oil to help stop it from rusting so fast
Nice refurbishment!
thank you i know the video was probly a little annoying!
Love what you did with that!!!
Thanks you very much Adrian!
Wow you where really patient with this
thank you for saying that, this video was not done well sorry about the music and voiceover i had no idea what i was doing. We are restoring a Ruger old model 1969 right now
You need a bronze or synthetic hammer if you’re going to be pounding on the pistol. And, get yourself a set of gunsmiths screw drivers, they fit in the slots without running the risk of damaging steel.
Thanks for the tips and suggestions Thomas, we appreciate it!
Great job looks great
Thanks so much
“Oh yeah can see some of the rifling in there”
*proceeds to show smoothbore*
i have not looked closed enough to know since i was never going to fire it. thanks for watching
@@TheKinzlerBros parts are readily available .
Good Job 👍
thank you very much we have two more gun restorations in the works, a sawed off shotgun and a 1969 Ruger 357 magnum black hawk. Those videos will not have music or voiceover just close up clips of the guns more of a traditional restore. Our latest video drops tmrw morning which is a restoration and that video is different that is what the other ones will be like. thanks for watching.
Uberti still makes these revolvers. they are a good revolver.
oh yea i researched it when we did the restoration, i know alot more know on how to properly do it too. For the next time because the next time is coming very soon on a different weapon
My buddy just bought a new one on Friday. It was just short of $750.00 Canadian
@@randy7068 holy! They are like $200 here down south of youse
Great job 👍
Thanks 👍
Some wood hardener to soak the grips in and some light sanding with a dapple of antique polish will make the grips look new in no time.
Edit: use a magnifying glass and look on the cylinder and if it has drag marks or engraving- like marks then it's real, it doesn't look like a model, but maybe a working show gun. Most western collectors used show guns but they are mostly decoration before non firing guns.
Thanks for the tips!
@@TheKinzlerBros no prob
tahiti
@@findingemo3691 is that your gun dutch? Looks like a schofield
@@Locutorrandom sure thing son
I hadn't seen any of these older videos of yours but it just shows how far you've come in 2 years with restoration technique etc
Ya absolutely, the first couple were rough, we appreciate you supporting the channel
guys you a battery charger and remove it electronically, and make sure you use oil on it Da.
Thanks for the tip, next time!
In it's glory😊
Thank you!
Thats sick man, i'd love to see more of these videos.
thanks hope you subscribed thanks or the support
the gun is actually a 1863 Remington the barrel is an Uberti. I just found this stuff out yesterday after some more research and help of some gun enthusiasts
@@TheKinzlerBros that's cool man, hopefully you guys can grow into a big channel, your guys videos are always focused on the main task with little "boring" bits. They're well done.
@@NitrousKick_ thanks buddy it means a lot we appreciate you!
Good Job!
well thank you the video was not real great but the end product was awesome
*Arizona Ranger joined the chat*
*Texas Red left the chat*
Best use of a Bible ever.
Haha Thanks!
i'd make it into a conversion revolver. a cartridge cylinder and a new hammer and take the sail underneath(the sail being the ramrod) and putting a makeshift ejector rod. then also keep it in the nice case when you dont shoot it. also ive seen a few things on the grips. maybe boil the wooden grips,dry them, and then put wood hardener and also some water resistant oil.
Wow such great ideas tips and great things to know thank you very much for the information we appreciate each and every viewer that comments because always comment back
Super job and you made it fun.
Thank you this was our first attempt at a restoration and I know we were far from doing the right things but I have learned since then and I’m getting better every time I do a firearm thanks for watching
@@TheKinzlerBros shoot me a message if you ever need some advice. I'm a firearm restoration specialist. You guys did a good job and it looked like you didn't need and advice.
Good job young fellows. If you want to continue, buy some gunsmith screwdrivers, a set of brass and steel pin punches and some small brass hammers. That will help you a lot. Alos, try to not dry fire your firearms. Even if they will never fire again, dry firing damages the parts, especially with black power fitearms. Keep up the good work. Thanks for the video, it is interesting to watch. By the way, Uberti still makes the replica of the Remington cap and ball revolvers.
wow great advice we appreciate this type of advice to much this is alll helpful in the future very appreciated Karl thanks
C O O L !!!😀👍❤
Thank you thanks for watching
Fantastic job that is 100% one of the COOLEST things I have ever seen
wow what a nice and cool thing to say some other people that watch this think we did a horrible job the music is bad and i have no idea what i am doing! SO thanks for this positive one!
you should get out more.
So cool
thanks so much
That's so cool ..... I wonder if it still works
I really dont want to fire it........
Cool!!!!
Thank you for watching
Awesome love watching your videos,I was shocked when I seen the Bible that was grandma’s keep it up and stay safe
Thanks we enjoy your comments. Love u 2. Stay safe!
You have a lot of patience. You guys did a great job and I'm sure your sink is extra clean (LOL).
Don't listen to all the negative comments, I love your video. Your neighbor from Canada
yea we have been getting negative comments on tis video for a long time but oh well, we just finished the shotgun alot better.
Use a coffee filter to filter the Evapo-rust
thanks for the tip thats awesome!
If that’s actually from 1863 those wood grips are more than 157 year old wood
The barrel and the grips are not original but, everything else is, someone replaced them at some point!
It's actually an 1858. They're still being made and you can get one for about $250 from Pietta. The 1863 is the .31 cal pocket and that's still being made too. A buddy of mine hung a rusty buffalo model with the 12" barrel and target sights. I hunt with mine they're very accurate even with the roundball.
@@TheKinzlerBros What makes you think the frame is original? I have an original frame/barrel, hand/hammer. The frame should have the serial number under the left grip plate near the bottom. There should also be some other stamps in that area.
@@jasonstewart3748 I did civil war reacting for years, my Remington was a .44 cal been digging civil war relics for over 30 years, so unless it was passed down by the family and then thrown in the water in the past 20 years, possibly 19th century. A remanufacturer more than likely, regardless an absolute epic find and a swell job guys in cleaning it up! Well done!,I'm sure you may have found modern guns in worse condition in the water.
@@rockymountainlifeprospecti4423 My 1858 is marked .44 but if you load it with .44 it'll chainfire. I load .454.
Nice!
well thanks we did not know what we were doing at all,
Great restoration..hope u find lot of good things to restore soon🤞👍..stay safe
Good job!!
Thank you very much Marilyn it was our first one that we ever did so it turned out OK but definitely have a lot to learn
Good thing it's a cheap 1960's Uberti instead of a real Colt
well the frame is original like described in the description but yea we did not know what we were doing in tis video.
Its not a Colt its a Remington replica.
It's a remington, you can tell by the ease of removing the cylinder
People need to shut up. We all do things differently. You did a fine job. Thanks for even filming it and sharing with us.
wow thanks so much for being so nice, i dont mind all of the hate its ok i did not know what i was doing at the time, but we have now done two more restorations since and those were filmed way better.
Wonder why the wooden grips are still intact after so much time in the water.
well they are not the original grips with the gun there is not way they would still be intact! i beieve they were changed along with the barrel!
If it was covered in mud, clay, or sand they would’ve survived to a degree.
that looks like a reproduction, so it probably isnt that old, you can still pick those up new from uberti
This was legit man. Enjoyed it.
Thank you very much
Lol you recovered a murder weapon for decades ago.
yes this is possible, but no one will be able to tell since the serial numbers are only partly visible.
Admirable, a lucky find and a piece of history well done!
Actually it’s not from the 60’s the barrel and grips are but not the frame.
Thanks so much for watching
use clr overnight and there will be zero rust on it
Thanks for the tip will keep that in mind when restoring our 357 Magnum we just got back from the sheriff
Its beautifull man
Wow thanks
GOOD JOB !! 1858 Remington, " new model Army" ,, reproduction,, no Colt involved , LOL,, but good work,, the .44 Colt was the 1860 Colt Army.
Thanks David we appreciate it, thanks for watching
One of my dream guns right there! Remington 1863 New Model Army or Navy
Ya we were thrilled when we pulled that up
@@TheKinzlerBros After rewatching this again, I noticed you said the stamp on it says "Uberti". Uberti makes the finest reproduction old guns there is. The metal they use is much better grade and quality than even the originals, but they stay true to the original design. I own several Uberti's myself, including a Uberti 1873 Winchester. You are correct about it being made in '64. I believe that gun could even be fireable, as long as the bore is good, and it is possible to rebore the barrel it too if it needed it. There is a video on how to do that I think.
The gun is a reproduction and is really a modern firearm so you need to soak it in oil and you should be able to shoot it.
David Stegman the barrel and grips are modern but the frame is original with numbers to match for the time period. But I am still scared to fire it.
@@TheKinzlerBros Check the nipples on the cylinder remove or replace them or the cylinder and as long that it not a brass frame it should alright to shoot.
The frame is not an original too, xx simply means it was made in 1964 - www.powderhombre.com/mbpproofmarks.pdf
@@Sepuku78 I already guessed that so it is a modern firearm so there wouldn't be any problem firing it.
Cool project!
Thanks for watching!
The poorest restoration , I hope someone else do the restoration again , it will look completely different
Sorry bud, we did our best!
I really hope you do a video for the flintlock. Even if you have to buy some parts it will be worth it
I think they accomplished exactly what they set out to do
Zara is just mad she didn’t randomly find an awesome firearm in a river
ZaRa Tilak These Guys are out there doing it I sit at home and watch it I would love to be able to do it if I were to find a flintlock rifle I would just P my pants keep going boys good job
This is one amazing find and I love the time you took to take care and restore it
Thanks so much we have another gun restore we just finished. It will be up this coming week we are going to test shoot it as well
Uberty gun. Modern remake.
Not worth much.
The barrel and the grips are the only remake on it the main frame and cylinder are original!
WOW the gun looks great. Good job.
Thanks a lot took awhile to clean it up. We will never fire it though to dangerous and I dont want to ruin it
Nice job.
thanks you very much
Amazing
Thanks
That was fun.
well thank you, we just finished another restoration this week. A sawed off shotgun we found on an abandoned bridge. This restoration was done lot better no annoying music either.
Whilst as a machine gunner in the army . At the end of weeks out in the field or prolonged firing we used to go down shop and buy bottles and bottles of coke a cola . Fill up a bath a rest the gun in it for a couple hours before cleaning . Awesome .
thats a cool little story thanks for sharing!
pretty neat man! I bet that thing can still fire.....
yea idk i did not clean it for that but maybe will someday the one i am restoring now will fire at the end.
@@TheKinzlerBros just to see if it can, nto doubt the bore's all pitted >.< still beautiful firearm!
Love the use of the Bible and weight to give you the finished product , obviously a couple of thinking guys here , well done .
Thank you very much, we appreciate it. Thanks for watching
Nice work...Nice item!!..Thanks for sharing..!
Thanks very much for watching
Hi, i have the same gun at home and think its not a 1863 but the 1858 by remington model "new army" in .44 cal
Nice restoration though, its always nice to see one of these old gun coming back to life :)
Hey, that's awesome. Ya we were happy to do it. Thanks for watching
Great Job Guys!
Thanks so much for the support
Wow, u guys did a great job! I loved watching u take the gun apart and put it back together!
Thanks Tammy! ya we enjoyed making the video very much!
Dude. I've been watching your recent videos for a while now. Love them. But this old one popped up on my feed and I enjoyed the heck out of it. Love seeing the process and personality.
Thanks we appreciate it, that was are first restoration!
Chill with the music
yes i know it was bad loud and annoying, so was the voiceover, this video was not done well, i learned alot from this and have done a lot better restoration on a shotgun that is also on the channel. I hope to see you comment again. thanks for watching and being honest.
Awesome display case guys
Thanks Buddy!
It's kind of interesting I started watching your videos a little bit ago and it appears that I have gone back in time 4 years from the videos that I was just watching. You guys have come a very long way and your Gunsmithing and restoration. What an amazing find. RLTW 3/75
Ya that was are first restoration, very inexperienced! Thanks for the kind words and for watching!
Awesome work guys!!😀
Thank you very much!
Nice job
Thanks Robert thanks for watching
world have been good the plated detail inside next to the gun rather on the outside frame if going to hang on the wall great vid
thanks for watching Ark angel