17 - How to Make Keepsake Box Padauk and Tiger Maple Through Dovetails
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
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How to Make a Keepsake Box from Padauk and Tiger Maple with Through Dovetail Joinery.
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This is a very easy keepsake box build with some beautiful aspects to it. The through dovetail joinery, and the raised panel top, combined with the cut-off lid, make for what appears to be a very fancy project. It is not however, and really only involves about 10-12 pieces of wood, and a weekend of your time. If you follow along with the order in which I build there are no terribly complicated measurements or setups.
The wood I chose is African Padauk, and Maple, with a “tiger maple” grain pattern. These woods make a very nice contrast with one another, and really add to the elegance of the box.
One of the things I point out often in the video is to remember to clean the surface of padauk, and really any exotic before gluing with acetone, so that the oils come off and a strong glue bond can be achieved.
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I remember that little plastic miter box.😂
I like the way you explain details instead of assume we all know
thanks
Hi. Thank you for watching!
I have been struggling with a polyurethane and even a spar urethane over my exotic wood projects. I will switch to lacquer. I love that your shop looks like a real shop not a movie studio full of the most expensive tools on the market.
Beautiful box, I enjoy making them myself and have found them a great gift idea personally I have found them great wedding gifts as any nieces and nephews are getting married these days. I am adding this to may favorites and will build for a July wedding gift walnut and curly maple is what I picked up yesterday, thanks for your upload this is a good project.
Hi, Thanks! I think, walnut & curly maple would make a fantastic combination!
Beautiful piece of work!
First Time I see one of your Videos. Like it verry much. Got a new subscriber. Like the calm way you act and talk. AND all the Tips you give ... Padouk verry Oily etc... In the past have some problems with Padouk, now I know why. Thanks.
Hello! And thank you for your comments.
I just look around in your Videos and remark that you made this Box at least twice (Wenge Padauk) but you gave more explications on the Padaukbox, wich is newer than the other ? Anyhow, I like your work.and will integrate some of your advises into my projekts.
Another Thing. Is it enough to "just glue" the Bottom, and not fix in , in a groove, or dowel, or something ?
Hi. I built them together at the exact same time. But I edited the video for the Padauk box much later.
Yes. The glue that is used is extremely strong.
The bottom would make an awesome cutting board
Nice work..
I like your tools very match
Just because you've never had a failure with overglueing doesn't mean it's the right amount of glue. It actually takes very little glue to make a good bond. But nice box.
what was the diminsions of this box?
Hi, it's pretty big for a Keepsake box. I think it was about 10-1/2" wide x 8" deep, and 7" tall.
You like to "over-glue?" Over-glue is a bit of an understatement, don't you think? ;)
I hope you at least own stock in Titebond...you spent more time cleaning up squeeze-out than you did running power tools.
You're right. I'm an addict. You can tell I've been missing my overgluers anonymous meetings.
LOL !! Good answer !!
How do you deal with expanson in your workepiece? For example the bottom is glued in with no room for expention.
James, you do good work! I have watched several of the keepsake boxes and found them all really nice; the purple heart is outstanding. I noticed in the description it is mentioned that detailed plans are available on the website; unfortunately, I didn't find any there. Quite possible I over-looked the link; it is almost midnight here. Thanks for a response. John
Hi John, here is a link to the plans. Thank you. ~James
kingsfinewoodworking.com/collections/project-plans-for-sale/products/cigar-humidor-woodworking-plans
Thought I understood about not trapping the top of the box and leaving expansion/contraction space, but then you glued in the bottom with out that space. Please explain? thanks. Love the videos.
Nice work. I, too, like making boxes like this and I also enjoy working with hardwoods like purple heart, padauk, walnut, etc. I do a couple of things differently. I noticed you cut all the pieces for the top and the separately milled each one, and then beveled the top on the table saw after the box was completed. I mill the top with the babbet joint and do the bevel before I cut it into 4 pieces. Just easier and faster for me. Also, since I don't have a massive enough band saw to handle such a wide blade, I cut the box in two pieces on the table saw. It also eliminated the need for a sanding board since the blade is cutting with the grain on all four sides. I do like the hidden hinge configuration. I use tiny super magnets for invisible closure of the top. Thanks for the video.
You must have been watching the Mythbusters. "If it's worth gluing, it's worth overgluing!".
Haha, I've seen a lot of them, but I don't recall that episode. However, I wholeheartedly agree!
I was paraphrasing "If it's worth doing, it's worth overdoing".
Mate, that’s beautiful. The contrasting woods make it. Well done.
Beautiful box, really enjoy how you explain the process on how you completed the box, really helpful for us that are just learning. Thanks
Hi Tom. Thank you very much.
James, I really like the bevel edge detail you put on the top. Once again, another fine project video. One question. Where do you live?
Hi, I live in Colorado!
Extremely beautiful box, I love the choice of hardwoods you have used. Again, absolutely beautiful.
Great box . . . where do I find the hinges that you used. Or at least at part number or Manufacturer.
Thanks,
Tony
yes i would like that info also thanks
Which Jointer and Planer are using? Would you recommend these models or something different for the novice woodworker? Thank's Ken
Hello James, came to your channel through the Wood Whisperer and have really enjoyed your work process, projects and your teaching. This box is wonderful. Most people, (me included) would have chiseled the bottom corners square but your rounded technique looks absolutely stunning.
Hi Michael! Thank you!
Beautiful work! Your video on the P-C 4216 helped me a lot with mine and this is just another example of an outstanding teacher doing what he does best. Thanks for a terrific lesson. I'll send pictures when I get mine made (unless I'm embarrassed by it).
Your videos are terrific! No crazy music, no antics. Just tons of great tips and tricks that make a difference in the wood shop. Quick question. I bought your plans an I am making your box. Can you recommend an attractive hinge that does not open 180 degrees? More like 120 degrees so the lid does not flop all the way back? Needs to be attractive and string. Thanks, Al
Absolutely stunning James! I am building a box kind of like this with half blind dovetails. Was wondering how I was going to do the top. Dont have a raised panel bit, but I do like the bevel idea for added aesthetics! Thank you very much!
James, May or not be the craziest question yet but here goes. I live alone with my cat and plan to be cremated at the end with her cremated and placed into a box such as the Humidors or keepsake boxes. Going to be a double compartment box, hers and mine. Love the hinges which I’ll use and plan on some type of clasping in front so we don’t end up in a sweeper if dumped. Any suggestions would be great for security, but my question: type of wood? Been 35 yrs machinist, now play with wood, not as good as you,why the questions. Type of wood? Secured fastener? Corners are going to be Dovetail, don’t want a leak. Anything you can add? Maybe a video on making “The Box”. HaHa! Did like the Padang and Tiger, looked as a “Box”. Thanks and get off the floor laughing. 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
That is really nice work, thank you for sharing.
I love the box and am enjoying your channel...but what about the movement of that bottom panel you glued into place??
Hi, I don't really have to account for movement in this scenario. I planed the bottom down to 1/2" thick, and the sides are through-dovetailed. There isn't any way that it can move.
I have actually built many humidors that hold cigars like this. Those have humidifiers in them to keep the inside wood at 70% and the outside at a much drier state (8-10%). Plus when not in use they dry out fully. And even in those situations there isn't movement.
nice box! you allowed for movement in the top, but the base is a very tight fit - are you not concerned with movement there?
Let me start by saying that what I see is beautiful. But, I do not have your machinery. To me there is no craftsmanship in your work. All computerized, you don't even oil or vanish your work... vanish out off a can. Thumps down from me.
Great project, loved it. A couple of tricks I've used to keep my lid from slipping in the glue up is to drop a couple grains of course salt in the glue seems to hold thing in place until the clamps take hold. The other one is use a plastic soda straw to clean out wet glue on the inside corners.
I noticed that the plan shows on page 20 a width of 7", for the front, back, and sides. I believe this should be 7.5 inches.
I have some baltic birch plywood that I am going to use to make a desktop, what would be a good stain/finish for it? I know nothing about either, I think I would like something that is not tacky, but brings out the would grain and the blonde colour of the birch... or even something that is a coloured stain or finish.
I'm just now starting out in fine woodworking would a 4-in jointer be big enough to you guys think? I'll be making small projects like keepsake boxes and things like that
Concerning your large sanding block: What grit sandpaper do you use on your block to smooth out the mating surfaces?
Great looking box. A question about the base, how did you account for seasonal expansion, has the base stayed closed? Thanks
That is beautiful! Thank you for sharing!
Great video. Wish I would’ve discovered it sooner. I’m having a hard time finding these plans on your website. Are they still up for sale?
Awesome box! 👍
Thank you very much.
I have learned so much from you. I like how you explain things like I have never done this before because many times i have not do it
when gluing the lid to the top of box, a small 1mm rebate/lip routered around the underside of the lid prevents it from sliding around with glue whilst clamping.
As usual Loved the video but was hoping to see more details on how exactly to install those Soss hinges. My feeble attempt of trying to follow your example using the router table has so far eluded me.
12:33 is there a reason why you couldn't have made the rabbit before gluing up the 4 sides? Then you could have sharp corners instead of round.
It came out beautifully, love the contrasts of the two woods and thanks so much for showing the through dovetail technique, i'm going to give it a try later - i look forward to the full review also!
Hi, thanks. I'm just about finished editing a new build. It's actually a Bench Vise I made from exotic wood. I have a very highly detailed step by step "through dovetail" tutorial for the dovetail jig in it. In case you are interested. Here is a link to the pics of the finished Vise.
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I look forward to it, my jig has been sitting in the corner of my shop for weeks now because i can't figure out how to set it up!
The jig looks absolutely incredible! Its amazing the different colour woods you can get!
would it be possible to build something as nice and refined as this without a thickness planer and a jointer? what tools or techniques would replace the planer and the jointer?
pro tip: use half the amount of glue this guy uses lol. Especially when fitting that lid on top and it's basically swimming in glue... not good
King's Fine Woodworking. Just found your channel, this is the first vid I saw or yours and I liked it so much I am now a subscriber. I am new to woodworking and making my first box with splined mitered joints out of curly maple and walnut. I like the looks of your box very much and am thinking of trying it, but maybe with box joints first. I havent tackled dovetails yet.
Hi Bill! Thank you!!
I'm old and I can not find the jig you described. Please help this old Indian, thank you, Whiteagel
Was wondering what grit sand paper on the 4 sheet sanding block big block and how it's held down? Thanks!
Lost me when that dovetail jig came out. Get on the handsaw my man! Nothing compares to handcut dovetails
James, what is the table saw angel for trimming the box top after assembly? I didn't see it in the plans.
Lovely box. Why can you glue in the bottom? Aren't you concerned about wood movement?
Where do you buy your wood? There are no hardwood dealers within 100 miles of me, so I’m thinking of getting some of my wood online. It seems kinda scary, but I don’t always want to take the time to drive to a dealer, which essentially takes up my whole day. Thanks.
Hi Barbara. I actually get my wood locally. So unfortunately I could not give recommendations as to where to purchase lumber online. I agree with you that it is scary purchasing lumber without being able to see it first. Perhaps you could contact some other UA-cam woodworkers. I think that some of them might buy their lumber online.
Thanks ~James
Very nice! I bought the plans. What angle is your table saw on the bevel for the top?
GREAT Video James! Quite inspirational. Very easy to follow instructions for those who may not have experience woodworking. Even though I have been doing woodworking for quite sometime, I still really appreciate the tips you share! Thumbs Up! Have A Super Week!.....Gus
Hi Gus! Thank you so much!
Very nice job, I’m just starting in wood working and I’ve tried to build a few boxes but just don’t come out very nice, I think I’m rushing threw it too fast, thanks for the video
Yes, that's my biggest issue too. I want it done NOW ! LOL !!
Why are the pin boards cut with a straight bit? Maybe you will tell us in the next video you mentioned coming out in a few days. I don't think I caught a good view of the jig, maybe it has a V shape or something that makes it so you get the mating joint to the other bit.
Hi Keith! I will go into great detail on dovetail geometry on the next vid. It'll be before the weekend. :-)
Well, this was totally enjoyable to watch.
Hi James- another great build from your shop! I find your videos very informative and well made and look forward to seeing them when they come out. Did you change the knobs and mitre saw on your mitre table? I recently watched your Extreme Mitre Station series and thought you had fun architectural ruler pulls and a different saw....but then, I've been kind of You Tube binging and may be confused! 🤔
Hi Diane! Excellent observation skills! I shot this video before my Extreme Miter Station Build, but just now got it edited. I do have the architecture scale rulers as drawer pulls now. And I did change to a Bosch Miter Saw because it fits closer to the wall. Thank you for watching!!
I know you said you didn't spend much time sanding with the harsher grits. I was wondering with the planing you do is it really necessary to start with a belt sander at 36 grit? Seems like overkill. Liked the video and the project a lot you have me as a viewer now. Thanks for sharing
Hi Chuck, thank you for watching, and that's a great question.
I leave the ends of the dovetails long and sand them flush. I also make the top of the box a tiny bit oversized and sand it flush to the sides. Combined this is actually a lot of sanding on a very hard exotic wood. This is why I start with such an aggressive grit.
Ordinarily you are right though. If the planed surface doesn't have these harsh protrusions, I would actually start with 280 grit on a random orbit, or possibly just use 400 grit by itself. The wood comes off the planer almost glass smooth. And I can see why it is distressing to put such an aggressive grit to it, and ruin it, only to have to work back down to finer grits all over again.
I just remind myself that for this particular job, I didn't plane it to get it smooth. I planed It to get every board to the identical thickness of 3/4" so that I could make perfect dovetails.
I cringed at jointing the thin piece without a push stick @ 18:46. Not to say I haven't done that though.
I could listen to you read the newspaper! Keep up the good work
Hi Jeremy! Thank you very much.
Nice build, are you worried about expansion in the base having no room for it ?
Beautiful, Meticulous Work my Friend !
Thank you!
I have watched you shop upgrade build, and a couple of your other videos, so now I am a subscriber. You do awesome work. Quick Question, I got some Mahogany and Zebra Wood from a friend the other day, do you think that this will be a good combination for a keepsake box? Also, what brand of hidden hinges did you used and where can I find them. I am fairly new to wood working and don'y yet have the resources.
Hi Rich! Thank you!
I think your wood combo could look great! The hidden hinges are from a company called Soss. The best price I found for them is on Amazon. And they are great hinges. Very strong! And they look really nice when the box is open, plus of course you can't see them when it is closed.
If you look in the description of the video above, I have a link for the exact Soss hinges I used. And links for the other common things on this build.
Thank you, James
I found them in the description, just like you said ;).
My first REAL project was a Blanket Chest/Foot locker, that I made for my Air Force son and his wife, made with Dark Cherry and Tiger Maple panels, it came out pretty good and my former neighbor/mentor taught me a lot, and watching you show me some differences and reinforce some fundamentals. Thank you for you videos and keep them coming.
Hey, thank you! Send in pictures if you don't mind, after you build your zebra & mahogany box. :-)
Will Do!
Fantástico...congratulation!
I really like padauk, but padauk saw dust is brutal. It can be splinter prone too
I will never reach your standard. Not enough years left....
Excellent project, I just love the padauk and tiger maple. I will be looking for the plans.
Thanks for sharing...
Hi Felix! Thank you. I will let you know when they go up.
Superlative work as always. The highlight of my week. Thank you very much for another masterpiece. Kind regards.
Thank you!
Nice Video! Where do you purchase the wood that you used in this project?
Beautiful finished result!
Just chanced on your channel. Like your approach to the work and good explanations of what you do and why. Thats a nice looking box
Thank you very much.
Love your videos, great content and the explanations are top notch - thank you. My only critique ... For goodness sakes, get a dust collection going on your chop saw :)
How do you know when to stop sanding and when to switch sandpaper?
Existe alguna razón para realizar los cortes en la miter saw en dos pasadas?
Beautiful box, where did you get those hinges?
Well im not a woodworker but I enjoyed the video Thx
How do those hinges keep the lid from opening all the way?
Beautiful keepsake box!!! fine craftsmanship. Thanks for the tips.
Hi Dale! Thank you!
Great job! I too struggle with over-gluing and over-clamping myself.
It's a LOT better than seeing a loose fit or cracked piece of wood. Glue is CHEAP !!
3/4 stock seems a bit clunkie for a small project
What!?! NO FESTOOLS!!!!!??? I cannot believe you are allowed to upload your videos! (I JEST!!!) It just seems like its ‘IN’ to show off how rich (or deep in debt?) one is by using those green trimmed beasts....(though confession is good for the soul....yup i own one..it was a moment of WEAKNESS! ...And MY WIFE said i could!!!)
Nice Video and beautiful box. Question though. When making the top, you did a door panel type frame and center. You did mention that you did not glue the panel so it could float with expansion and contraction. It is a large enough piece for that too. But then on the botton you encased the panel tightly with no room for expansion or contraction. Same size as the top, even a tad wider. Should it have had a expansion joint too?
Hi Gary!
The bottom board I planed down to about 1/2 inch thickness. The expansion and contraction on that is virtually nonexistent.
@@KingsFineWoodworking Hi Gary, are you saying that thinner boards don't expand/contract as much as thicker boards?
When ever I do sanding in between coats of the lacquer or any other finish for that matter, with 1000 grit or even higher, I can never seem to avoid scratching the surface of the material. How do you avoid that?
I do it only by hand, and then extremely light. Virtually no pressure.
And if there are fine scratches after that, they will disappear in a subsequent coat of lacquer.
Are you doing a climb cut on inside of the box bottom?
Beautiful work. The finish is lovely. I am flummoxed by the solid wood panel for the bottom--wedged in tight as a tick. I know the dovetailed construction is strong as hell, so I'm not worried about the expanding bottom busting the box apart (especially given the tsunami of glue used). But when the bottom shrinks, it can (likely will) split. I know you are an experienced woodworker, and you know that a floating bottom--as is the top panel--is the best choice. So why'd ya do?
Loved the build, quite a beautiful piece! Got a subscribe from me!
Hi James! Thank you very much!
James, what is the benefit of using esatone on the wood before glueing up?
Ken Pederson it will dissolve the oils from oily exotic species so that you can wipe them away before glue up. This prevents the oil from interfering with the glue to wood bond.
a true treasure!
glad you didn't run out of glue!
LOL !!!
if you don't mind me asking, how did you learn woodworking?
you definitely are gifted!
I began in 1985. I had some woodworking education at the university level. And then learned from my father-in-law for many years after that. He is a retired engineer, and a lifelong woodworker, who will be 90 this year. In fact he can still be found in the shop almost any day of the week, still building.
thank you for sharing!
@@KingsFineWoodworking - That is awesome!
Did you have any problems cutting the hinge slots? Two things:- 1/ If you move the box left to right, you are effectively climb cutting and the box tends to get pushed away from the fence, possibly ruining the cut. Better to cut right to left, then it gets pushed into the fence. 2/ Cutting the slot in the box, then in the lid with the same set up of the stop blocks, they are in fact not matched as the lid has to turn round. Left hinge on the box is the right hinge on the lid and vice versa. The only way to get a perfect fit is to ensure the cut on the opposite side (having moved the stop blocks) is exactly the same distance from the other side. (that was a bit difficult to explain!). Otherwise a great video. Thanks!
Great craftsman, very very informative! Keep up the great videos!
Thank you!
At least give you some free stock or n the company
Is that your way of saying that you've been using Tite Bond for over 30 years?! Regardless, I enjoy your content and I'm wishing to get to your level of woodwork one day! Much love to you and the fam! And friends! Keep it coming!
Thank you, James! I'm cutting my boxes on table saw and the reason is very simple, I cannot find where to buy a bigger than 9x11 sandpaper sheets. If you know where to get bigger size please answer.
Hi. For my sanding block I glued 4 sheets of 9x11 down side by side on a sheet of particle board. But you could also buy a wide sanding belt, cut it, and have a sheet that is 37" x 60" or bigger. Here is a link to one of them. amzn.to/2zxZoI2
@@KingsFineWoodworking just for curiosity's sake, what grit do you, yourself, use for a block like this?
Wrong link for the raised panel bit!!! Definitely a different look than I wanted. $109 wasted! Please double check this links. I’m still a patron for you!
Lovely box. Great skill and underdtated workmsnship. I've decided after watching this I am going to over-glue every project, just because I can! Thank you for posting your creation.
James, I love your videos and only recently saw you have a channel on Prime as well. I also like the family element with them all helping you in the shop is great. The only thing of yours I have built was a close to but slightly modded version of your 'Extreme cross-cut sled'. I use it every time I am in my shop. Although I still lack a lot of some of the precision tools you have, I am slowly collecting them. I would like to financially support my hobby by selling some things as I am sure that is how you and many woodworkers got their start. What would you say a box like this could sell for? And how much of that price is dictated by exotic wood choices? I know wood is at an all time high price right now, hopefully we will see some relief soon.
I doubt you'll see this but here goes anyway...Where did you get those hold down rollers for your router table and what are they called?
Hi,
Those are the “JESSEM Clear-Cut Precision Stock Guides”. And they are awesome!
You can get them here.
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Thanks for watching!
James