Which is BETTER? BALSA or FOAM? GAS or ELECTRIC RC PLANE? - Hanger 9 Ultra Stick PNP - TheRcSaylors
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In this video, we fly the new Hanger 9 Ultra Stick PNP rc plane. This is a balsa electric plane that is PNP, a pretty rare thing in the rc plane world. In this video we discuss the pros and cons of foam and balsa as well as gas vs electric rc planes. Let us know your thoughts and opinions about this topic n the comments.
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In this video, we fly the new Hanger 9 Ultra Stick PNP rc plane. This is a balsa electric plane that is PNP, a pretty rare thing in the rc plane world. In this video we discuss the pros and cons of foam and balsa as well as gas vs electric rc planes. Let us know your thoughts and opinions about this topic n the comments.
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Check out the Hanger 9 Ultra Stick here: bit.ly/3Ie9HVi
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Eachine plane Nate was holding - bit.ly/3fDC9DN
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Fix the blue jet and fly it thercsaylors so I can see how it flys
i like both Balsa and Foam ! but what i really hate are 3d printed planes the suck especially in cold weather .
Last flew RC in the 1980s. Recently decided to re-enter the hobby and found a short kit Joe Bridi Trainer 40 that took 3 months to build as an electric powered plane. Now I'm afraid to fly it since it took 3 months to build and over $1000 t0 build, modify and purchase all the extra balsa, covering, trim and electronics (TX, RX, Batteries, Servos, Charger, etc.). Bought a used E-Flite Apprentice to get back to a good flier before risking converting my Bridi 40 to pieces.
I grew up building balsa with my dad 60 years ago. Whole different world in the hobby at that time. Back in the day you would spend a month or two building and covering a model only to have it crash or even perhaps fly away. Still have my old single channel radios and escapements and sometimes wonder how we were able to get anything to fly successfully. After a hiatus to work and raise a family I'm back in the hobby and fly everything. Balsa, foam, electric and glow. Prop, EDF , quads and FPV. Love my balsa and glow but foamies are sure easier. The smell of glow exhaust still brings back fond memories of my father.
"Love my balsa and glow but foamies are sure easier. " Yes, that's just what slackers want, "easy."
@@freddied2485 why are you so angry Freddie? Is life not easy in your moms basement? Let people have fun
I tried balsa, it looks very nice but i crash a lot so I just prefer foam because it's very easy to fix
I)m 75 and been in the hobby sense I was 7 years old and I feel what ever gets someone in the hobby is a good thing foam or balsa,gas ,glow,or electric makes no difference.
I have come to the conclusion that all planes eventually will end up in a trash can. Eventually all of us make a mistake or a receiver browns out or a mid air crash happens or lightning strikes the plane and the plane crashes so hard that the only thing left to do is take out the recoverable parts (receivers, wheels, servos, etc.) and throw the rest away. Foam planes can have some fairly bad crashes, and be fixable. I love to make balsa kits and put the planes together. However, most times, repairing a balsa plane is more like a total rebuild of a wing, fuselage, tail feathers or a combination of two or more of them. There usually isn't the possibility to apply some hot glue and toothpicks to a balsa plane like you can with a foam plane. Foam breaks into a few pieces, and balsa explodes. I have both, and love them all. I just feel worse when a balsa plane hits hard because I know it will be a lot of time and effort to fix, or it will be beyond my ability to repair it. Probably, I will have to buy a new kit and rebuild it again. Something bad about seeing all those laser cut pieces lying in splinters. I think the true differential in how planes fly is their size. Turns out most small planes are foam, and most large ones are balsa. Larger planes typically fly better, not because they are made of balsa, but simply because they are larger, handle the wind easier and are easier to see in the air. I currently have 9 planes, and whenever I buy one, I always consider how easy the plane will be to fix if I turf it. Because of this, if there are two planes pretty much identical except for being foam or balsa, the foam plane wins out. I built kits all my life, and 20 years ago, I would have never made that statement, but now I do. Pride of ownership of a kit built plane won't rebuild it after a crash.
Love your guys' videos! Voice of reason here: The rigidity and weight saving of balsa will lead to better performance in most cases. The downside is either a time investment to build it up or you pay a premium to have a ARF or RTF in balsa. Foam has come a long way in performance over the years and offers a dramatically reduced price that sacrifices overall rigidity/performance. Carbon inserts have helped a lot with foam and it's far easier to repair in a crash. Bottom line, foam will get you up in the air faster, and has gotten a lot of folks into the hobby. Those seeking performance will gravitate toward balsa though!
We had 2 rules at our airfield #1 have fun #2 make sure everyone else is having fun
Sounds like an amazing club! 👍😁😎⚓
I got into planes 9 months ago and I started with fome board . I deeply fell in love with flying and the ability to fly crash and repair with fome board. After two kits I started making my own I have desined 17 of my own models now and gotten them to a point were my local hobby shop guru could not believe that it wasn't bought . Flying is the most incredible hobby I have ever had
I love and respect all forms of RC aircraft, boats, cars, tanks, etc. What builders and manufacturers are doing now is fantastic. I build all forms of rc, am a scratch builder, kit builder, foam builder and enjoy them all, electric and gas. Great show Sailors
I’ve only ever owned foam electric. I’ve taken flak for that, so much so that I don’t go to clubs anymore. But I know what I want out of my birds. Simplicity, ease of maintenance, care free fun. RC is the only way I can afford aviation. I’d love to fly full scale, it’s my love, but I can’t on my income. You want to fly gas or balsa, awesome. You want to fly foam or electric, awesome. Flight is flight, regardless of how much or little you can spend. Awesome video guys!
Extremely well said LC! I couldn't tell you how many times I've experienced balsa flyers telling us how wrong we are for flying foam. I've never witnessed it the other way around. I truly believe balsa flyers have this "agonizing pain" they go through in order to fly balsa and most believe we are "cheating" by flying so quickly and easy and some just can't bite the bullet and join in on the fun! Glad that you know how to enjoy the hobby, and sorry to hear about your club experiences. I truly believe that exact attitude will be (and already has been) the demise of many clubs. Happy Flying my friend! You and your foam will always be welcomed here with smiles! 😁😎⚓
Yeah I started RC flying with an Avistar with the .40 engine in the early 2000s. Self taught myself and really enjoyed it. Electric was around at the time but not that great. Haven't flown in years and just started getting back into it thanks to RC Saylors and Brian Phillips RC. Really appreciate the morals you throw out there too. The technology and electrics have really come a long way. I love the electrics for their simplicity and reliability. The gas engines were just so unreliable. When I was stationed in Las Vegas, Nevada with the Air Force I had a little electric biplane I would fly at the local RC Airfield. Everyone else had the big expensive gas planes. I had way more fun and much more relaxed on my $200 electric biplane then they did on their $2000 set ups. They always looked down on me too lol. However their were some people very impressed that such great and fun flying could be done without spending a fortune. So yeah I understand where your coming from on people at the local RC fields picking on you for not spending thousands of dollars like them. I think the big spenders just get so nervous because they have tied up a fortune to fly RC and you don't have to do that at all to enjoy flying.
Nice thoughts on balsa vs. foam. We only fly electric. We have a dozen or so Horizon Hobby foam planes and love them. But now we also bought our first balsa plane from a friend, of course with Spektrum safe technology (safe select and telemetry) and AS3X. A high wing Pilatus Porter. Unfortunatley in this hobby you will find way too much criticism and negativity in the forums and comments. I love what Abby said in this video, we all enjoy this hobby in one way or another, thus, to quote Nate, "If it it safe and if it is fun, it is right!"
It's a strange dynamic. Even the friendly non-judgmental people I've found at the local clubs keep pushing gas engines in a bizarrely insistent way, like there's this amazing thing I'm just missing out on, but hell, I just started. Let me enjoy my trainer and my new Timber!
On balsa vrs foam, I'm a die hard BALSA builder,. Yes, its time consuming ESPECIALLY when you get a hook, bow or warp in the wing and you are a perfectionists that just has to get that out(I Am)
I personally feel the craftsmenship or skill is not there with foam,. anybody with a wallet and safe mode can go fly now,. and we probably needed that to keep the hobby growing.
But there are so many rabbit holes and forks in the road on this opinion.
You guys nailed it if you're not hurting or pushing your opinion on anyone, you're doing it right. (SO TRUE)
I started building and flying back in the late 80's and with Glo fuel., nextel & cellular was just getting popular... I had a lot of brown outs or radio failures, plane would do crazy things on it's own and sometimes go completely unresponsive.
I got tired of picking up... returned to kit form balsa...
30 yrs later I'm a kid again learning the electric side of things.
Building a modified version kadet sr, (my version)8' wing and lengthened fuse. with 3D capable control surfaces.
But 8 foot wing so I can see it with my old eyes.
Yup, I'm crazy.
Henry David Thoreau: “Simplify, Simplify”... It is foam and electric for me. Of course carried to the extreme I would only be flying hand tossed folded paper airplanes. 😊
Guys there’s a time and a place for all things that fly! It’s the hobbyists like you guys that help make entry to the hobby easy.. keep your smiles on.. love you guys.. I fly everything I can!
Fly what you can get your hands on! I fly at an old airport and have been flying balsa. The kits are old nitro kits that I've converted to electric. I enjoy modifying the planes, going to 2 aileron servos so I can have flaperons, adding flaps, changing the dihedral. I have planes with 2 sets of wings:) I just started making planes from plans, also designing parts with CAD software and cutting my own wood with a laser cutter. To me building is as much a part of the fun as flying. Going electric is for simplicity, 45 years ago I started with control line nitro planes. I got back into the hobby just 3 years ago. I like a plane that is easy to fly, but can go both slow and fast. Self taught, I did my share of crashing before figuring things out. You would be surprised at how repairable a balsa plane is.
A gentleman I see flying at the same airport flies foam, saying he hasn't the time or patience to build balsa. He still works, I'm retired. I couldn't careless if he built his planes from old soda cans. He's out there having fun just like me. I have wood coming in tomorrow; I'm building a "Draco" wing for the LT-25.
I fly and enjoy both foam and balsa, but I do enjoy balsa more then form.
I also fly both electric and glow 4 stroke. They all have there good and bad sides. Electric is quick and easy, but relatively short flight times. Glow is messy, but sounds great and I’m able to fly much longer then an electric airplane. I bring both electric foam and electric balsa to the field. And one or two balsa glow planes.
I’m a long-time balsa aircraft builder and believer the feel of a balsa aircraft in flight is truer to flight characteristics than a foam aircraft. That being said, I have several foam aircraft as well which I enjoy flying. The rigidity and ultra-light weight of this foam sheet make it an ideal substitute for balsa and some incredible planes have been made with it. The downside to 'foamies' is that because foam is a relatively soft material, it's easily damaged by careless handling (hanger crashes). Both have value and both are enjoyable to fly. Building a model RC airplane from a kit is a truly rewarding thing to do, but it is not for everyone. I can personally recommend doing it, the feeling of self-satisfaction at the end of the job is enormous. But it's not something that can be rushed. It's a very involved process that will take you time. Keep’em Flying…
The best airplane is the one that puts the biggest smile on your face. For me that is foam and electric all the way!!! Gas is a pain in the butt!
As an old 'un I remember the balsa aircraft of 40 years ago. R/C was more limited. No batter/electric motors. All internal combustion/gas engines. When they hit the ground they became a balsa jigsaw. Bring it home in a plastic bag!!! I think Nate nailed it. The instant gratification thing too. BUT, I have been flying recently the Eachine foam Mustang and Corsair. I have never flown a four channel aircraft before. They might be 'toys' and annoying to the proper r/c pilots, but heck; I'm flying and wouldn't be if not for these 'toys'. My local park is perfect. Couldn't use a gas plane.
I would also point out that you two are TOTALLY the reason I am doing so.
Without your excitement for them I would be still only using ground based r/c only.
I am forever in your debt. Truly!
From a beginners perspective, I have been flying for about a year now. I started out with the night timber and it was too much for me. I have crashed it multiple times due to lack of experience. I love my conscendo evolution. This hobby does take time to learn. My aeroscout 1.1 is awesome to learn on thanks to you guys. Me personally I'm not ready for a balsa plane. Do to the crash factor and putting it back together. I wouldn't be comfortable with balsa. You guys keep on doing what you do because it gives me the confidence I need to succeed at being an RC pilot.
I love ‘em both. The simplicity of foam and electric gives me the opportunity to fly on days that I couldn’t based on prep time. And then there is nothing like the reward of taking a pile of sticks and turning it into a lean, mean flying machine. Who doesn’t love the smell of nitro in the morning?!? Please don’t make me pick sides Nate & Abby.
Ditto
Foam used to be bad, but modern foam is more rugged and easier to repair than balsa. Balsa flies better in 90% of cases. I have converted all my old balsa planes to electric and they all work well. So balsa does not necessarily mean you have to use glow power.
Thank you for your comments. Actually, because of my budget and starting the hobby at the age of 46 with no knowledge at all, I started with a little Cub S from eflite then, Timber X and now an FMS Pitts V2, and I felt uncomfortable subscribing to a club because of my foamies. In fact, most people at the club fly on electric foam machines, and that's it, I'm having fun. I enjoy watching some beautiful big balsa machines fly, but I don't feel ashamed anymore. The pleasure counts, and also the skills you build up along the way.
Thanks for your good videos!
Although I agree with your option on the practicality of foam planes, I have to say that there's something nostalgic about the balsa planes and I think they're beautiful works of art...maybe best suited for skilled flyers.
A balsa kit or scratch build is unique, and gives the owner a feeling of pride when it flys well.
Foam planes are easy assemble, and can have a great deal of detail to look like the real thing.
EPP (rubbery foam) is cheap durable and the easiest to repair. It doesn’t look good, it lacks rigidity, but fly it like you don’t care for fun.
I have 5 foam, 1 balsa, 1 EPP, planes. Plus I have a spare unassembled EPP plane for when the current one is beyond repair, and another balsa kit to build when I get around to it.
I’ve always flown electric, it’s simple.
I have a bunch of foam/electric and glow/balsa planes. They are both great. For foam/electric, it's nice to take them to the field to fly for a few minutes x however many batteries you have. But if you want to fly for half a day or a full day, it's a pain in the butt to have to keep charging batteries. It's also really inconvenient to have to have different size batteries for different planes. With glow/gas you get longer flight times and can just fuel up and put it in the air again when you run low. The sound of gas/glow is also cool when you're flying things like warbirds. At the same time, electric being quiet (normally) is a plus if you just want to fly a small plane at a local park for a few minutes. When I fly, I normally go to the field for most of the day and take several planes, both glow and electric.
Brand new to the hobby. I mean COMPLETE NOOB(s)! My young son and I just bought a Sport Cub S 2 from Horizon and we're waiting for some nice weather (as in no wind...we're very nervous about losing the aircraft and having it fly away...) to maiden it. We have watched ALL of your videos and have learned a great deal. You two are awesome! Please keep up the excellent work.
EDIT: As beginners our opinion probably doesn't matter that much, but we went with foam because it just seemed to fit our needs, we like electric, and it looks to be more easily repaired.
This would be a better choice: Wait with the Cub! You will loose it! (Forget balsa.). www.horizonhobby.com/product/easy-trainer-1280-v2-rtf/FMM051R2.html
I would suggest finding an experienced pilot to help you get started. In 1 hour you and your son will be able to fly and not be nervous. It becomes fun then.
My first plane was a Sport Cub S2 when I knew NOTHING about rc planes. Never got it to fly well at all. Very discouraging. Not a bad plane, just small, and bigger flies better. Wait for NO WIND or find somewhere you can fly inside. Remember, in the beginner mode on that plane, when you give it throttle, it will gain altitude.
Check out Flite Test. Cheap way to go while learning. I bought a Flite Test power pack C, battery and receiver that I could bind to the radio I got with the Sport Cub. To date I've scratch built 13 planes from their free plans available online and crashed all but 2 beyond repair. That's 13 planes for under $300!!!! Every time I wreck one, I go to the Dollar Store for 3 sheets of foam and build another. Reuse the motor and all electronics from the wreck (depending on the severity of the crash, you may need a new servo or something but my motor has taken a beating and keeps on flying).
After many hours of flights, I just bought my first EDF jet. Scared to put her in the air. Wish me luck
Thanks folks for the info and advice. It is much appreciated. I will say for sure that the little Cub sure is light! It came highly recommended around the internet as the plane to get to start with. But it seems more suited for indoor flights being so light? Would something like the Mini Apprentice be better or perhaps the Carbon Cub S 2, especially if my son and I seek lessons? I do like the idea of building Flite Test model too, but it seems pretty daunting at first glance. Again, thanks all so very much!
There will always be critics regardless of the material format planes, cars, or even the color paint you chose lol. If a person is enjoying the rc hobby even if they are doing everything wrong don't criticize. Promote the hobby and the joy it can bring from beginners to experts. Every person will find thier level to fit into this wonderful hobby. You guys always present the neutral standpoint of it, which is why I enjoy your videos. Keep it up !
Thank you all for saying what needs to be said. Your videos are always both informing and uplifting. Also love that you both give God a shout out at the end of every video. You two are wonderful and a testament to what the hobby should be. I don’t fly planes, but because of your videos, I am looking into trying it out. I wish you both continued success and please never change.
Thanks a lot for your kind words Brian! I think that tonight's video planned for our channel will really be directed towards someone like yourself! Truly hope it comes in handy to helping you get a nice airplane in the air! :-)
@@TheRcSaylors Thank you !! And I can’t wait to watch it.
Love it! Foam rocks. So easy to fix. Try a eflite extra 300. Flys amazing!!!
Love to see a craziest wind ever video.
To quote another youtuber the best one is the one that puts the biggest smile on your face. ⚓️
My first consistently successful flights were with foam electric planes. I'll probably finish out my days with that combo.
The Ultra Stick sure looks and sounds great. The resonance coming from the airframe sounds powerful.
I truly enjoy every type of plane that will bind to my transmitter. Your point of instant gratification is spot on! The unfortunate thing is that those amazing craftsman that build balsa are quickly disappearing. Love the look, feel and sound of a gas/nitro balsa plane as well as the ease, cost and repairability of the foam models. Cheers to a great topic.
In the past I flew U-Control balsa for sport and combat (100-130 mph). Then we changed to flying "FOAMIES" in combat. Faster to build, cheaper to build and a bit stronger. Combat planes sometimes last less than 1 flight. My average was 4 flights so you would destroy 2 or 3 a day. The foam versions would last twice as long! You would cut out wing cores by the dozen and assembly line construction would then start. In RC I flew only glow, and ruined some clothes and got oil on my car interior. Now I fly a converted sailplane with a motor in the nose and folding prop. It is balsa but it is over 25 years old and still is relaxing. I have watched all your videos, and that is a lot, and think the foam construction is the way to go for sport.
Started on balsa and gas young, crashed and got discouraged, saw flitetest videos and kits, bought 2 built them and got back in the hobby with 3 Eflite/volantex foamies and a fiber glass arf kit, now I’m building/converting the balsa plane I crashed when I was young and hoping to deep dive into balsa now. Fly em all!!
I replied before I watched the entire video,. But you said something and I want to clarify it.
You said if you built and crashed a balsa kit, you were not sure how you would repair it.
My answer to that is, If you built it you were already there once, and you know exactly how you put it together.
You just cut out the damage and glue new in/or scab it back together and fix the monokote to your liking.
Balsa is time consuming and it takes years and several planes to perfect in my opinion and before I forget it, I'm still learning at 50+
But the CA glues bond and cure quickly. I use wood glue alot as I like the extra time to lay sheeting down on wing ribs and I also like how tough it is when cured,. the thing with wood glue, you are done for the day on cure time,. this method adds a even different twist. and is probably closer to how the very first stick planes were built.
I highly recommend you try a balsa sometime, take your time and expect or allow the time needed to do one,. never make it a job or put time restraints or a schedule to be done. its like a jobsite,. it will be done when the required time and effort has been exerted.
Keep having fun
you guys are great
Flew nitro fuel planes most of my life, went electric about 5 years ago. I don't miss the fuel mess and fuel soaking in the balsa. Since electric planes are quiet, I can fly at the local soccer field near residential areas without getting noise complaints.
i started electric and went nitro straight after. i mostly fly nitro now
I love both ,foam and balsa ,but my preference is balsa they seem to fly better for me .more stable I don't use gyros much at all now but they did help me get back into the hobby, I flew back in the early 90 s on nitro and just got back into it December 2020 and was told by a guy in the club learn to fly is the best way however I watched a lot of your videos and you recommended the sport cub s rtf and I started out on that and now only have safe on my foamy,s ,valiant,habu and aeroscout and it is great for high windy days ,I have 5 balsa planes and no gyros on them 4 of them nitro and one 6s lipo ,really and truly I think they all have there own place .i,m thankful for all you guys videos and Brian Phillips because of y'all I got back into the hobby and am loving it . Thnx
I love my foam plane, but am building my first kit. I guess I'm old fashioned and enjoy to build things. I like what you said about what kills hobbies. The awesome thing about foam is you just crash money, not money and time lol
Nothing against balsa, but for me, a new RC plane enthusiast, the real attractions of the foam BNF kits is their affordability, how easy it is to get flying, and especially the realistic look of the planes. I love the look of the UMX Turbo Timber I have and I LOVE how well it flies..! My next plane is going to be the UMX A-10, because I LOVE how that plane looks..! It is so much fun flying an RC plane that looks like the real plane..!
Best plane is one that gets you flying in the air! They're all really cool.
So glad you put the man straight, facts and numbers prove that any level is fun, great video
I don’t fly for various reasons, mostly because my eyes and reflexes aren’t quite good enough… but I absolutely love watching others fly ANYTHING (including full scale aircraft). I definitely enjoy your channel and agree, people need to stop bashing others over hobbies.
Let me start off first by saying I enjoy and have learned a ton from yours and Abby’s videos. Thank you for all you two do. But if anyone has any question as to what is better gas, or electric, foam or balsa I invite them to watch the Petrincic Brothers videos. They truly understand and appreciate what it’s hobby is about. Fun and relaxation. They laugh and enjoy whatever they are flying. Whether it’s a little foam Sport Cub S2 or a balsa plane they built with a high dollar 4 stroke Saito engine in it.
Balsa and gas planes: wayyyy cooler
Foam and electric: Easy and durable
Good assessment 👍😁😎⚓
RC is one of those hobbies that grows in spirts. I remember when NiCad batteries were all the rage. then it was the BEC's with the drones. Now its foam with all the planes and now the safe mode for a lot of air plane. With ever advancement there have been people that complained mostly because they didn't want to make the change. but once they did and found out how great the improvement's were they changed there minds and learned to adapt to the new changes.
I think the innovation of foam is a great idea it's gotten more people in to flying.
I'm just getting back into the hobby after being out of it for close to 30 years, and I can't believe the lack of balsa kits available these days. I've built planes from SIG, Carl Goldberg, Great Planes and a few others, and I can't find any decent kits to build these days. Luckily I still have a SIG Four-star 60 kit from 20+ years ago that I'm planning to build over the winter, and this will be powered from an OS Surpass .91 that I purchased at the time. The other aspect I was surprised at was the variety of transmitters and electrics available today. I'm planning to run my old faithful Futaba 8U Super for the time being.
Welcome back to a wonderful hobby! There are many reasons to enjoy balsa and glow, but embrace what’s here now as well! The hobby has advanced a lot in the past 20 years 👍💯😎❤️⚓️
It's all good! Different strokes for different folks. Personally, I fly all electric and a mix of Flitetest foam board planes, foam planes and jets, and balsa ARF (almost ready to fly) planes. Like you were saying Nate, I worked my way up from small, cheap, Flitetest planes to balsa, but I still like to fly them all. I don't ever plan to build a balsa plane from a kit, but I really like to build with foamboard and hot glue :-)
If you aint crashed.. you aint flown!
Asking for favorites is sort of perpetuating the argument.
Rc what you want 😊👍
I have ONE balsa plane, a Sky Buggy that I got from a swap meet. It looks like a slow plane, but totally rips. It handles wind and has a great presence in the air, but I have only flown it once. I have 62 foam planes, and I prefer them because I can fix them over and over with a bit of hot glue.
Whichever one brings the biggest smile to your face, is the best one for you.
Both types of construction can be poor or superb, both can be used by beginners and both
can be taken to competition level.
Variety is the spice of life!
Once I got over the disappointment of crashing I started to really enjoy the hobby. I have built balsa and foam kits, bought arf, pnp, and rtf. I have owned more than 100 planes, now I own 5. Most I have crashed, some I have dismantled for the electronics, a few I have given away. When I build or buy a new one I resolve that this time it will be different, but it never is. Once you realize crashing is just a part of the hobby you will be okay.
ok having flown both.for me balsa is easier to repair as can buy any size peace you need and shape out of it for example a completely new wing if needed rather than hot gluing a break . built many balsa planes back in the day .and then used heat shrink iron on plastic witch came in many different colours so could choose your own design .theres something special about building your own plan e.even in kit form and watching it fly. loved it .
I just realised that my favourite is whatever I am flying at the time. :)
I started with balsa in '79. I enjoy the building process. Yes, balsa does make outstanding crashes, and I had my share of a new model destroyed on the maiden. I was in the hobby until the early 2000s. When I came back and looking to jump back in the entire industry has changed. I will buy and fly foam plans, but I will look for the right kit to build and convert to electric. I have amazing memories of my father building late into the early morning many times.
That Hangar 9 is great as an arf. I'd personally put in a 61 glow. Foam electrics have their place for scratchbuilding and arf's. Throwing one in the car before work is great. The Phoenix models arf's are alot of work, it's more "final assembly" than arf. Installing control horns, assembling linkages, drilling out the motor mount to fit your engine, servo and linkage installation. There is also a reason my friends and I collect and trade balsa airframes, it's usually a total loss when they go in. My buddy just trashed a Great Planes 60 stick, no biggie, the motor and electronics are already in another plane.
Your video was spot on. It’s all about having fun , relaxing . We don’t need the negative Nancy’s around
Hello there..i m new in rc plane in my opinion i more like play foam plane coZ it easy to fix and cheap..
Same. I would like a Balsa but I've got alot of learning and practice first.
I now own both and I love that foam planes allow me to charge a battery and go fly(park flyer). My Balsa planes are bigger so those I fly at my club field. And that requires a bigger time commitment.
I’ve built two balsa and both are amazing
I like foam have about seven but balsa electric is the best
GC
What killed the hobby?
Technology. The younger generation doesn't care about aircraft, aerodynamics, or anything outside of social media and cellphones.
Who made the ''younger'' generation the way they are...
Gota pay for our tiny 200 gazillion dollar shed home cant be paying for rc's or the bank comes checking...
I love building balsa planes it's very meditative
Still to this day the Sticks are awesome. And I love balsa planes.
In the 80's I spent all winter building plains. The last was a Top Flight 90 P 51 it lasted about 2 minutes ( my fault)!!
The technology, and advancements on foam have made the hobby much more enjoyable.
I gave up and quit after the P 51, and am just getting back into the hobby.
As always keep up the fantastic work!!! Love you guys an God Bless.
I agree with Abby-it’s all about fun! I Have all electric planes. 2balsa planes which have been turned back into kits and rebuilt. All others foam and glue. I like them equally!
If you enjoy building and repairing then balsa is great . If you just want to fly, foam is the way to go. Much easier and quicker repairing at the feild especially the more catastrophic crashes. Try repairing a broken off wing or two halfs of a fuselage with balsa on the feild and keep flying, probably would not happen, but simple with foam.
There are also people out there that build amazingly detailed planes out of foam :D
It's not really a question of what is better--but rather what you are flying it for and where you are flying it--both have pros and cons.
Even though it's been awhile since I've flown my balsa planes handled the weather better and had more precise handling characteristics than any of the foam planes I flew. However many of my foam planes I could fly in places than I wouldn't dream of flying a balsa. Lastly completely concur with gas powered, they require allot more regular maintenance and patience.
MY flying experience...I've flown the KF 606!!! So there!! I have yet to fly my Eachine CORSAIR!! Frankly I don't care!! Make a balsa combined with foam, JUST HAVE FUN!! Thanks Saylors for a VERY educational video...come on NATE, put up your dukes!! LOVE this plane, it bows at flights end!! 💟👍😘
I got into RC's for the fun ,don't care what brand or material something is made out of as long as it work ,/ today I flew a friends Aeroscout which is foam ,bought an Aeroscout ,to learn with and I just ordered a balsa wood plane kit ,but the foam plane got me in the air the fastest so I knew I wanted to build 1 ,just have fun ,awesome plane you have there ,awesome video
Having flown everything under the sun for 50 yrs. Nitro balsa made by your own hand. No question. For so many reasons.
Love your channel ! Cheers from Waterloo , Ontario Canada 🇨🇦
As a newbie - foamies offer low cost entry to the hobby. Combine that with safe technology and correct choice of newbie aircraft, your hobby is accelerated to the fun zone very quickly. Actually you get hooked....it's a conspiracy...A component of the newbie zone is research and info, which is where utube channel like this one come into play. So, keep up the good work guys.
I know this is an older video but i think as long as someone is flying its all good. The more people that enjoy this awesome hobby the better. I just recently have gotten back into it . I have been enjoying all the new technology.
I got started with a RTF foam plane about a year ago. Since then I have built 4 foam planes using flite test or flite test adjacent plans and converted a foam chuck glider into an RC plane. Right now I'm designing what I hope will be a slightly floaty foam STOL plane. I'm having a blast flying and building these things. Would I love to build and fly balsa? Yes I would but I don't have the time, money or space to build and store them. I do enjoy seeing balsa planes fly because they do fly better.
Got many of both. I find that when flying scale, foam slows down much more realistically. Could me due to foam being a little more draggy. Overall, I prefer foam. And I've been flying for 44 yrs.
Hi guys , I am newish to the flying hobby been flying about 2 years now, i mainly have foam planes, but have 2 balsa electric planes which i never flown, due to being afraid to crash them, and not able to fix them. foam for me is just easier to fix.
but waiting for summer which is around the corner for me, to take the chance and put my balsa up in the air.
Well i think any any type of plane is good enough to put in the air , its a hobby and the enjoyment is what we all are after.
Thanks for all the videos and knowledge its helped me a lot. keep it guys!!
Thanks from all the way in South Africa!
I agree with you a 100%, there’s an old school RC hobbiests, and those are the one, who rejects foamies. I think everybody is right according to their point of view, I prefer electric foam models, the advantages are many over gas engines…
Building stick is a total different skill set. I was never that good but always enjoyed it. Did a full body Corsair once. Therapeutic.
Foam definitely gets people into the hobby. Once they are in a staying they can branch out.
I agree with you whether balsa or foam fly whatever brings you enjoyment. Since I have been flying about 5-6 years there are many hateful people out there who look down on others who fly foam or electric or both. Don't forget people who fly quads are also looked down upon by some. Not sure why some feel the need to acts this way.
I have not flown RC for 5 years now. Several reasons, Could no longer afford AMA membership needed to fly at a club field. No complaint as AMA is worth every penny. Foam an electric has saved the hobby as most flying field have been closed due to glow motor noise . Even u=control and free flight are showing life because of the noise reduction. I have only build and flown Balsa. Yet, I think like the Slot Car hobby , IF it was not for foam and electric power, the hobby would wither and die. look at the youth numbers at the AMA NATS , hobby needs more electric and foam events..
The stick for sure all day. It's fast and aerobic. It will fly slow and gentle almost trainer like. It's the best of both worlds
Foam or Balsa? if you're having fun, that's what counts! (Personally with foam and electric I have 10x the amount of flight time as I did with balsa and gas.) I do not miss burned out glow plugs, electric starters (or chicken sticks), the cost of fuel, or deadstick landings on every flight! Get out there people and have fun!!!
Discription of the difference is right on.Well done.
I’m all in for balsa. Experienced flyer from the 80’s. Was gas engines. Maybe I would try out some electrical flying with foam. But who the hell knows words like abachi, balsa, birch, beach, nowadays?
I personally prefer balsa wood aircraft over foam because when I fly a balsa plane it feels more rigid and bends less and because of the more power plant options electric gas or glow further more with glow and gas on balsa all you need to do is fuel up and fly again another reason is balsa planes look more clean and Beautiful the next reason is more of a personal reason is that balsa has just a better feel
Foam definitely got me into the hobby, about a month ago. Could you guys do a video recommending cheap big pnp planes? Love your videos, God bless!
Idk between a p51 balsa 20cc and eflite p51 foam BnF id rather use the foam to learn the ins and outs of warbird usage and then switch to the balsa for scale looking maneuvers and stuff. Depends on the plane i think
Nate, I think you're a bit out of step with balsa planes. Most of them are ARFs today. You have to install your servos, receiver. ESC and motor, but that's it.
And you just showed why foam is killing the hobby "I do know that if this was a kit I wouldn't be flying it for the fear of doing something wrong on the build". The hobby used to be about building and flying. Learning to read drawings and build instructions, finding CG, setting the throws on the control surfaces. Learning something by doing.
Now it's just "take it out of the box, charge the battery, and fly". But I do like flight tests approach with building out of foam board, then at least you learn something about the plane you're flying.
What??? "The hobby used to be about building and flying.
@@jeffjackson6358 It used to.
I coat my foaming with Mod Podge which makes them stiff like balsa! NIIIIIIIIIIIICE! 😁👍
If it has wings, I fly it. I prefer balsa for the rigidity. Don't let kits intimidate you, it's good to get a basic kit to build and will teach you the skills necessary to repair a balsa plane, saving you money by repairing rather then replacing a broken part
Well said Nathan, nothing is superior.
I fly Balsa, foam, electric, glow, power and gliders.
With regard to H9 Ultra Stick, exactly same airframe as the older kit version with exception of colour Orange to Yellow, Tail feathers screwed on instead of glued,
Hinges installed and 2 piece wing (easier for transport).
I flew mine with OS 62v four stroke equiv to 46, so pnp with E-flite 50 has slightly more power.
Regards from downunder.
Can you review Eachine EX4 and Eachine EX5?
Abby you are 100% correct all the negativity and poor attitudes are exactly what is wrong with the hobby I have been in some groups and have left all of them because of this exact reason it's supposed to be fun and alot of people don't understand that but that is everywhere in the world now it's too bad
Form , balsa , corrugated RC aircraft all has advantage and disadvantage.
Pros
1. Balsa
a. Light weight
b. Rigid
Foam
a. can built to scale shape
b. Economies of scale.
c. Easy to put together and repair
d. Can flex and deform easily.
e. Light weight
Corrugated plastic
1. Strongest
2. Rigid
3. Easier to built especially the airfoil.
4. Tough- takes quite a bit of beating.
5. Very economic.
Cons
Balsa
1. Longer time to built
2. Pricey
3. More difficult to repair
Foam
1. Deform easily.
2. Do not last
Corrugated plastic
1. Not suitable for scale built/ look
2. Heaviest by weight.
Nice!
Wow... I didnt think they still made balsa planes. Haven't seen one in forever! Balsa 100% flies better, but foam is easier and more durable for sure.
i enjoyed the opinions i am a very green newby i am so bad i crashed my lil cub twice on maiden and broke it bad! so i wont venture balsa for a long long time so foam is pretty much it for me i live in North TX wind blows all the time my times to fly are going to be rare BTW Nate abd Abby you got me into this hobbie you guys are funny highly talented pilots
Keep flying. I used to crash every time I flew then got to the point were I would only have rough landings now flying is second nature and I can focus on betting tricks and overall ability without worrying about weather or not the plane will make it home in one piece
Nate well done Sir on explaining things, I like both types!, When I be was growing up all we had was gas planes and I had built a few in my time but your right it takes a lot of time to build balsa, especially when you work 50 hours a week, eventually work over came my time for the hobby but now 30yrs later I'm back!!, And I'm seeing all if this new stuff and then how easier it is to get flying with foam and electric, so I have bought a few foam planes and one balsa nowing that the balsa will take time to build, but also if I'm not building it the balsa, I can go fly my foam plane anytime I want because it's ready to go, so it's the hobby that's floats my boat and makes me happy!!! Cheers!
I agree on judging others. I look at RC just like Music, no one is wrong and everyone has a preference. Balsa, Foam, Gas, ELectric, SAFE, Manual. Just have fun.