BYD Atto 3 60 kWh range, acceleration and noise test
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- Опубліковано 8 сер 2023
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I like that you included the other tests, feels like a nicely packaged video.
Lucky me. I had a Atto3 as a rental last week. Drove it down to 4% and felt quite on the safe side. Would not be the case if I saw this video first.
In most cases you'll be fine. But evidently this one may not have been driven below 10% in quite a while.
It's a known, relatively rare but annoying issue.
@@nadnerb2k If the LFP battery is frequently fast-charged, the battery management system will not be able to accurately estimate the remaining power. BYD officially recommends slow charging of the LFP blade battery once a month.
I have byd atto 3 2024 one but I have no problem with that 😂😂😂😂
Who would have thought a range test would be so exciting.
Hi Bjorn, to stop the beeping noise for when your hands are off the wheel, try this:
When the beeping starts, after the 5th beep, turn off the steering function, then when the beeping stops, turn steering function back on.
Now, the car will do hands free driving, until you disengage it or if it can't read lane markings anymore.
I have owned an Atto 3 since October 2022 and I thinks its a good car.
However, I live in Australia and the Atto 3 is way cheaper here than it is in Europe (Atto 3 is about $15,000 cheaper than the base model Y here).
You seemed to be getting much higher energy usage than I do, I suppose that is down to the temperature in Norway.
Acceleration can be improved if you enable "Drag Mode" (same as the BYD Tang), best I have got out of it for 0-100 is 6.8 Seconds. I think this is because BYD limit the torque curve on the motor (software limited).
lfp battery is way more hard to estimate its SoC because of its very narrow Voltage distribution by charge state.
So even tesla recommend to charge 100% every week to recalibrate battery sensors.
It started from 100% so should not be this case
@@alanvicentini7712 Yes, and even that case BYD failed to estimate SoC correctly. I wanted to emphasize that it is hard to precisely check lfp's charge state.
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Hi, thank you for such an comprehensive and objective comparison.
The first thing I on the day i bought this car:
Sold the rims and tires.
Got a good looking 18” rims from Lenso
got Michelin Primacy SUV+ 225/60
now the speedometer at 100 is exactly 100kmh from gps. bur at 50 its 52kmh at the gps.
handling and even driving at heavy downpour is amazing.
my consumption is slightly higher because of bigger heavier tires, at 170whr/km
from 155 whr/km that others reported
i do recommend a 225/50 or 225/45 thought, because with 225/60 the tires bump up the car when going fast at bumps.
@bjorn Nyland
Bjorn that sudden battery discharge caused by cells drift, sometimes several cells in Atto 3 discharges faster then other and when battery at 5-4% most of cells have voltage 2.7v but several cels may discharge to voltage lower then 2.5v then you get 0%
2,12 V is a really low voltage even for an LFP cell..
What app are you using for testing? Do use a obd2 reader?
This reminds me of the first LFP model 3 imported to Europe. This should be fixable by calibrating and software updates.
How good is OTA from BYD
@@LuciaGomez-yb3om hopefully better than vw 😂
@@tobias..6688 worst isn’t possible indeed, i already have two colleges with a bricked ID after a OTA update 🫠
after big ammount of DC charges and not charged to 100% on AC from low SOC (less then 10%) cells drifts, and when battery discharged to 4% several cells already at 0% charge and very close to 2.0 v, i still not understand how in Atto 3 BMS balansing cells, when battery gets to 100% there no ballancing and when cells drifted to much several cells at the end of charging session gets to too high voltage 3.76 but most of cells finishes charging at 3.4. with total battery voltage not reaching 459v (for 126 cells of LFP)
Tkanks..but check the sound equlaser and adjust the sound. I find the sound very good .
Hi Bjorn.... Have you managed to get any BT dongle to work with the ABRP live battery info? ABRP have had many requests for the vehicle to be added, however keep responding with "send us the OBD commands"... As a premium subscriber to ABRP this is pretty annoying asking your customer for info for a service you are getting that same customer to pay for... But anyway (rant over).. If you have managed to get any dongle working with ABRP and Atto 3??? Do you have an idea of how to provide the info to ABRP as from a customer perspective I have no technical knowledge of this stuff...
Thanks again for the interesting Video, Bjørn! As I started sweating only for watching you when the battery died 😅, this will be preventing me for considering to buy an Atto 3. thank you 🙂
Rent an Atto 3 when on the way to Switzerland my windscreen was hit by a stone, too hard to continue the trip. My experience: The guessometer does not consider route or topography. The ACC made me crazy, because it started at 30 km/h. The green symbols and text on the white background were barely recognizeable. Charging was good and constant. Wind noise was way louder than in my BMW i3, consumption at 130 km/h was also high. The guitar cords might give parents nightmares. Autosteer was indeed good.
My Hyundai won't ACC below 20mph essentially the same.
@@Lewis_Standing when activating it wanted to drive with 30 km/h regardless of my speed, probably I did not use it the correct way...
I don't think you should be comparing BYD with a BMW car. BMW is a luxurious car while BYD is not
@@Rex-ww4cw Look up BMW i3!
@@waynerussell6401 BMW i3 is almost double the price of the Atto 3 in most of the places. You're comparing a normal car with a luxurious car
Now this is an exiting car…. Dropped the battery % from 4 to 0 in a wink. Imagine you’re in busy traffic…
Other than that not too bad. Drove it a few times (with a full battery 😊) and I liked it.
Have you testet and Aiways U5 60KW?
Thats like my Smartphone from 5% to 0% in 1 Minute 🤣
can you please ask VW/SKODA for an ID4/5/Enyaq with the new APP550 drivetrain and make a test and compare the consumption? should be in the area of 6% more efficient/range.
would be interesting how an ID.5 APP550 compares to a model Y.
khob khun krab.
Temperature needing to be set higher is what the MG4 also needs ... the MG4 seems to be about 5°C out. (If you want 20, set the AC target to 25).
Very common for Chinese cars.
How do you decide which Car to take to ionity vs the portable chargers you have - the 2kWh one's?
*kW
If you going to choose between byd atto 3 design or marvel r luxury which one would you choose?
Marvel r absolutely,
Model S uses NMC battery. For NMC battery cars, the 0% on the dash is actually 20% left on the battery and 100% is actually about 90% charged. Tesla programed the system that way to keep the batteries lifespan.
No, it's not 20 %. Model S has around 4 kWh buffer below zero. That's 4-5 % at 0 % on display.
It happens to my Samsung phone. When it reaches 5%, It drops down really fast and turn off.
" i don't want to die (may the car bjorn) hahaha cheers from asia :)
why BYD behind in technology in battery compared to tesla bjorn? their #1 in china? for the longest time.. :(
Suddenly dropped to 0%? Such a nightmarish event..
Meanwhile, Tesla getting sued in the U.S. for false range claims and algorithms. 🙄
crazy
i laughed @@FIGHTTHECABLE
You dont go below 10%. Just like you dont run with you refuel light comes on.
@@user-jh6vt8vx4v Nonsens my SoC arrival settings in ABRP at charger when i drive to south europe is 5% for a optimal charging speed
V popular car in Thailand due to low price and good looks. Altho EX30 orderbook opens in a month, 1.5m for base model
Did u get the rated 420km range?
Watch the video to find out.
Problem may be due to tire width...215/55 r18 is the tire size... (noise wise) and energy consumption meter i guess the car has no been to service center may be due to calibration is not proper...
This test was done on Continental tyres 235/55 r18
Note that at 235/55 r18 your range will be impacted by at least 10-15%
i have 225/60 r18 and i have 15% less range than others.
my next tire will be 225/45 Pilot Spot 5.
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Big fan of "The Wire" maybe ? Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiit man ! ^^
So: losing the last few percent suddenly is a common-ish complaint in the owners groups. The likely culprit is that the car hasn't been driven to below 10% in quite a while and the calibration is off. If you were to do another test on the car immediately after, you'd likely find that it wouldn't happen again. But yes - the manual says to charge to 100% once a week, and to below 10% once every 6 months; I'm not keen on going below 15% any more often than that! I did a 1260km drive (Australia) and the lowest I got was 23%.
I did zero mile test soon after. It didn't drop from 4 % to 0 % but it dropped quite rapidly at 2 %. Watch the upcoming video.
@@bjornnyland oh nice, I was hoping you'd do one for the Atto 3
Hello Bjorn, after Atto 3 get OTA 1.4 in Europe BYD did changes to BMS, now 0% counted when there still 2.2-3 kWh in battery so on extended range model usable energy is 57 kWh to 1% and at this new BMS setting at 1% the BMS restricting power to 10 kw, they build buffer and hiden problematic discharge curve of LFP@@bjornnyland
i just got a car this month and I saw this 😂 but I don't drive below 30% anyway
In China this car use 215/R18 tires, and rated 510km in Chinese test standard. The range is OK considering the price(~22K USD)
22k USD in china?
When you have 4% still driving in normal mode ? Why not using eco mode ?
Because it doesn't matter.
I have an Atto3 and a bmw g20 with hifi sound (non harman kardon) , the byd sound system is way way better than the Bmw
I mean something like this is personal preference but i think most people will like the bmw better
@@succes885 you have the hear it by yourself, the system on the bmw is really flat, lack of clarity, lack of bass.. most of the owners had to go aftermarket and get the hk or bowers Wilkins system just to get decent sounding audio
Agree, any sound except hm sounds worse on BMW
Hei Bjørn, er du og familien din ok, etter stormen som har vært i Norge og flommene
I was wondering this too. Hope all ok🙏
BYD Seal soon? 🤩
No
@@bjornnyland😒
It is hard to draw any conclusion from your review. Sorry, but thanks for sharing
For the price, you really can't fault the specs, it's a good all round car.
It is the bias from the mind but glad to see the objective mind here. I tried it once, and it was good overall.
The price is just okish in europe
@@succes885
It's best seller in ASEAN markets, Israel Brazil Costa Rica Uruguay Columbia
@@succes885 Europe isnt a country, different prices everywhere.
A bit disappointing range. Will be interesting with winter test.
Going from four to zero percent indicated battery in the blink of an eye is definitely a software glitch they should fix.
When traveling, you should charge to 100% everytime to calibrate and balance the charge in every battery cells (cell balancing) or else the range determined will be very inaccurate. Also, byd blade has very little buffer room (less than 4%) for battery discharging capacity. Considering this with outside variables such as temperature and discharging habits of the drivers, might help reduce the occasion of sudden drop in range.
@@MancMoto When you say every time, exactly what do you mean? I won't charge to 100 % and thus "stress" the battery, if I don't need the range 100 % gives for that particular trip.
Oh, and this wasn't a sudden drop in indicated range. It was a sudden drop in indicated battery percentage. Those are two different things, or at least they should be.
@@hadtopicausername I posted this from a BYD group, so I think the translation is slightly off. But I think he’s saying on a long trip you should cycle the battery more. The thread also states the BYD battery can go to 100% more often due to its chemistry
@@MancMoto That makes more sense, then.
LFP batteries should be charged to 100% frequently & can be depleted to like 0% without problems unlike NMC batteries where you're suppose to keep them between 80%-20% charged.
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Bjorn, you are lucky you are in Europe. All these fact reporting by you would be censored immediately in Middle Kingdom.
Now I know I won't be buying a BYD car until they sort out the range estimation / speedo issues. I like EVs with a nice buffer at the lower end of battery capacity, exaclty for this reason!
Get a Tesla…
@@skepticalmechanicnot much better. My model 3 Rwd never manage to go beyond 300km before recharge. Even with Oem tire. Claim range is 400.
@@user-jh6vt8vx4v The EPA rating is 438km. That is not the advertized real world range.
However Bjorn consistently gets EPA ranges on his Tesla tests.
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@@skepticalmechanic
Tesla has a list of issues pro Tesla channels like this don't address at all
That’s not smart to be driving on highway when your are going 50 km/h.
Don't worry. It was night, almost no traffic and it only lastet for a few hundred meters.
This Tesla killers (facepalm)
What an awful range at 120km/h
Still enough range for most people.
Only for people who need no car in the first place
@@sergeikulichkov7748 EVs are city cars first and foremost, 120kmh is above the max speed limit in many countries, it is an SUV body style which will naturally suffer at higher speeds. Most people are not buying this car for long trips.
Oh shit...10 years behind Tesla 😂
Yet Tesla buys battery from them .. Ten years ahead I see
4% and instantly 0%. It is expected!
The 4% is the average for the whole battery pack, but if one of the cells went to 0%, the whole pack becomes 0%.
Therefore, never drive your EV below 10% to be safe.
Wow this is unacceptable, i drive my tesla with convidence to 1% 😅 Terrible car this by BYN(ightmare)
Rediculous to be driving around at 1%,. Terrible car is a strong and in my opinion uninformed statement, hugely popular car in Australia. I have a Tesla and an Atto 3 very happy with both.
Kilo-gram kilo-watt kilo-joule kilo- metre. Why is it that the only metric tester who pronounces kilo-metre correctly worldwide is from New Zealand? You say kilowatt and keylometre. In the same breath. Why? You are not American. Very annoying!
ATTO3's battery might not be as efficient as Tesla's, but it could potentially be safer for that reason. Search for the latest tragic news: A Tesla Model S caught fire after hitting a road pile in the Sichuan province of China.This happened just yesterday.
Electric junk
What a terrible car.
I don’t agree. It is a very good equipped car. But it is too high priced in Europe. Here in Thailand it is cheaper and the most popular EV since its introduction end of 2022.
It's a fabulous car. Flawed, yes, but zero regrets.
The car is very good for price bracket.. High prices due to local taxis, but then again it gets discounted by almost 10.000 euros in european countries. EU and local subsidies.
Horses for courses. It depends what you pay for it at the end.
there is no terrible car, there are only terrible prices
@@raidene1800 Yes, in Europe.
Just confirmed my decision to keep my ICE car
Chinese car. No thanks.
No one is handing any cars out to you.
Agreed
No one cares
I was thinking the same - until I tested it. There are also no affordable EVs available in Thailand than Chinese EVs. I have now ordered his smaller sibling the Dolphin.
@@nihil303 You will when you see all the legacy manufacturers going out of business and unemployment in Europe ramping up.