Thus Yahveh my God will come , And all the saints with You Yahveh shall be King over all the earth . In that day it shall be------- " Yahveh is one ," And His name one . Zechariah 14 : 5 - 9 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, Baptising them in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, " teaching them to observe all things that > I < have commanded you; And lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age ." Amen. Peace and blessings 🙏 ✝️ 🙏
Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass. Zechariah 9:9 The King that cometh is YHWH, king of all the earth. And here he comes... And when they drew nigh unto Jerusalem, and were come to Bethphage, unto the mount of Olives, then sent Jesus two disciples, 2 Saying unto them, Go into the village over against you, and straightway ye shall find an ass tied, and a colt with her: loose them, and bring them unto me. 3 And if any man say ought unto you, ye shall say, The Lord hath need of them; and straightway he will send them. 4 All this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, 5 Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass. 6 And the disciples went, and did as Jesus commanded them, 7 And brought the ass, and the colt, and put on them their clothes, and they set him thereon. Matthew 21:1-7 Something to ponder...how does one person ride an ass AND a colt at the same time?
@@RabbiMalahkYah You quoted a verse which destroys your beliefs. And as for taqia, where does the Quran say you can use taqia ? I can show you where it is in the bible very easily. For example Jesus said gice god what belongs to god and give Caeasar what belongs to Caesar hhhh
@Thomas20249 do explain the verse that destroys my belief as you've lost me on that one? As for taqqia you Muslims use it all the time . Now do show from anywhere in the Holy Bible that it is OK to lie ?
@@RabbiMalahkYah You did not show me taqia in the Quran nor did you comment on Jesus doing taqia when he tells you give god what belongs to god and to Caesar what belongs to Caesar. As for LYING, in the bible your god supports it: And the Lord said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.
Also Jesus didn't say he was before Abraham, that's a misinterpreted word: Is Jesus God? The SHOCKING Truth They Don’t Want You to Know! ua-cam.com/video/KGaOOmqW2WM/v-deo.html
I know that you are Abraham's descendants, but you seek to kill Me, because My word has no place in you . I am telling you what I saw when I was with My Father. They answered and said to Him , Abraham os our father, Jesus said to them if you were Abraham's childern you would do the works of Abraham. But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God , Abraham did not try to kill Me. Jesus said to them, " Most assuredly , I say to you , " before Abraham was, I AM ." Then they took up stones to stone Him for blasphemy, as they said He being a man made Himself equal with God ,thus God . All of which can be found in John , a book that is concentrated on the divinity of Jesus , yet fools , put they toes into water teeming with crocodiles
Joh 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. The beggar said I AM like Jesus does that make him God ? Joh 9:9 Some said, This is he: others said, He is like him: but he said, I am he. John 8:58 - Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” INCOMPLETE SENTENCE I AM what ???? You assume I am means God because God said in Exo 3:13~14 I am who I am. When Jesus said before Abraham I am He was identifying himself and saying before Abraham I'm the one that the scriptures was talking about . I am He I am the man I Am the one I claim to be I AM the Messiah you are waiting for. I AM in Greek means Ego Eimi and used many times in the New Testament as I am the Messiah such as in John 9:9 beggar in the street said I AM Ego Emi like Jesus said I am. Does that mean the beggar is God because he said Ego Emi I am ? Joh 9:9 Christian disagree on this verse and have textual differences textual variant for this verse Some said Ego Emi means, This is he: others said, He is like him: but he said, ( I AM ) he. Other translation said Iam the man or Iam the one or it’s me so many different translation for the same word Ego Emi which doesn’t mean God ? translated as I AM He I am the Messiah but not I AM God ? Translation such as Amplified Bible (AMP) Some said, “It is he.” Still others said, “No, but he looks like him.” But he kept saying, “I am the man.” Amplified Bible, Classic Edition (AMPC) Some said, It is he. Others said, No, but he looks very much like him. But he said, Yes, I am the man. Christian Standard Bible (CSB) Some said, “He’s the one.” Others were saying, “No, but he looks like him.” He kept saying, “I’m the one.” Common English Bible (CEB) Some said, “It is,” and others said, “No, it’s someone who looks like him.” But the man said, “Yes, it’s me!” The disciples of Jesus said Ego Emi does that makes them God : In Matt 26:22 the last supper one of the disciples of Jesus said Ego Emi does that make him God Mark 13:6 said Many will come in my name saying I AM He does that make them God for saying I AM HE. Also in Matt 14:27 , Mark 6:50 & John 6:20 , John 8:24 & Act 26:29 Jesus said IAM HE which means IAM the Messiah not I AM God? you can find the meaning of I AM HE in the same chapter I AM SON OF MAN . John 8:24 - “Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that (I AM [He],) you will die in your sins.” Joh 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up (the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he ), and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things. Why Jesus didn't say before Adam the first creation or before the Angels ? Who did virgin Marry give birth to if Jesus was before Abraham ? Jeremiah was probably there before Abraham too, this is what God tells Jeremiah: Jer 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
@1541965 Did anyone other than Jesus say , I am the Alpha and the Omega,the Beginning and the End,says the Lord, Who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty? Has anyone else been worshipped, like Jesus waa ? Has any prophet, Angel or man claimed all that Jesus has ?
this guy talks rubbish. at 4 minutes 56, he claims the angels AND the spirit comes as two separate beings. but this is what chapter 16 verse 102 actually says. 102. Say, the Holy Spirit has brought the revelation from thy Lord in Truth, in order to strengthen those who believe, and as a Guide and Glad Tidings to Muslims. where did this guy get his information from.
HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT A PERSON! Misconception: Jesus’ apostles and other early disciples believed that the holy spirit was a person. Fact: The Bible does not say that, nor does history. The Encyclopædia Britannica states: “The definition that the Holy Spirit was a distinct divine Person . . . came at the Council of Constantinople in ad 381.” This was over 250 years after the last of the apostles had died. The holy spirit is God’s power in action, his active force. (Micah 3:8; Luke 1:35) God sends out his spirit by projecting his energy to any place to accomplish his will.-Psalm 104:30; 139:7.
@@Getonthebusgus110 So you reckon on 3 LORDS making up one GOD , try the spirit of the LORD if you are speaking of His spirit , but the heavenly realm are referred as spirit beings also . God Almighty is but one person and that's the Father .
@dazzadizzy5308 2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. The Lord Is The Spirit. Where He is, there is freedom.
@@Getonthebusgus110 It doesnt mean a third person of GOD as the spirit belongs to the Father which he gave to Jesus who then gave to the disciples ,Acts 2 God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of it. 33 Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear. The truth set them free and it is the spirit of truth .
A crucial and often overlooked contradiction within the Trinity doctrine is the attempt to reconcile the "threeness" of the persons with the "oneness" of God often leads to a diminishing of both. Trinitarians try to avoid the accusation of believing in three gods by claiming that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit share a common essence, which is the true "God." They argue that the persons are distinct but not separate, united in this shared essence. However this creates a new problem: subtracting the essence of God from his personhood leaves you with a God who is less than Himself. Here's why this is a logical and theological dilemma: Essence Defines Being: In philosophical and theological terms, essence refers to the fundamental nature or substance of something. It's what makes something what it is. If you separate God's essence from His personhood, you're essentially saying that God's being is somehow less than His essence, which is nonsensical. The Bible Emphasizes God's Personhood: The Scriptures consistently portray God as a personal being, not just an abstract essence. He has thoughts, feelings, will, and actions. He relates to humanity, enters into covenants, and reveals Himself through personal encounters. To divorce God's essence from His personhood is to strip Him of His very character and relational nature as revealed in the Bible. The Logical Consequence is a Diminished God: If God's essence is somehow "greater" or more "real" than His personhood, then the God we encounter in Scripture becomes a shadow of His true self. This creates a distance between God and humanity, making Him less knowable, less relatable, and ultimately, less worthy of our worship. The Trinity doctrine, in its attempt to balance unity and distinction, ultimately fails to do justice to either. It tries to avoid the accusation of polytheism by creating a "compound unity," but this construct ends up diminishing both the oneness of God and the distinctness of the persons. A more biblically consistent approach is to recognize: The Father as the one true God, the ultimate source of all things, including the Son's spirit and being. Jesus as the Son, eternally begotten, sharing in the Father's divine nature, but distinct from and submitted to the Father. The Holy Spirit as the Father's active agent, carrying out His will in the world. This understanding allows for a genuine relationship between the Father and Son, avoids the logical contradiction of a "compound unity," and upholds the biblical portrayal of God as a personal and relational being, fully present in His creation and interacting with humanity.
"They argue that the persons are distinct, but not seperate. United in this shared essence." Your position: "The Father as the source of all things, Jesus eternally begotten sharing in his nature, The Holy Spirit as the Father's agent carrying out his will" Bröther, that IS 3 distinct persons not seperated all sharing one divine essence. Its just verbalized differently.
@@Getonthebusgus110 There is no Trinity and this is affirmed by Jesus in scripture. Jesus said... John 5:26 For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself John 6:57 As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who feeds on Me will live because of Me. See Jesus was created. Isaiah 43:10 Affirms God the Father's Uniqueness: This verse, where God declares, "Before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me," In Luke 23:46 Jesus glorifies The Father by handing His Spirit over to the Father. Luke 23:46 And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said, “Father, ‘into Your hands I commit My spirit.’ ” Having said this, He breathed His last. Jesus in Luke 23:46 affirms Ecclesiastes 12:7 it is God the Father who gave Jesus his spirit and Jesus was not uncreated. Ecclesiastes 12:7 > "...and the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it." Jesus in Luke 23:46 affirms Zechariah 12:1 it is God the Father who “formed” the spirit in Jesus and that was not uncreated. Zechariah 12:1 1 The burden of the word of the Lord against Israel. Thus says the Lord, who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him: *Side note: we also see here that Jesus affirms it is God The Father who “who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth” as The uncreated God who is the creator! Jesus in Luke 23:46, John 5:26 and John 6:57 affirms Isaiah 42:5 it is God the Father who gave Jesus his soul (gives breath to walk the earth). As he did for Adam in Genesis 2:7. Jesus was not uncreated. Isaiah 42:5 5 Thus says God the LORD, Who created the heavens and stretched them out, Who spread forth the earth and that which comes from it, Who gives breath to the people on it, And spirit to those who walk on it: *Side note: we also see here that Jesus affirms it is God The Father who “who CREATED and stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth” as The uncreated God who is the creator! Which brings us to Hebrews 10:5 Hebrews 10:5 Therefore, when He came into the world, He said: “Sacrifice and offering You did not desire, But a body You have prepared for Me.” So how did God the Father prepare a body for Jesus? God the Father created the heavens and the Earth God the Father informed Jesus spirit. God the Father gave Jesus a soul (the breath of life) so Jesus could walk the earth. Kind like the account in Genesis doesn't it!
@dougbendo8817 "Funny, everything you said was wrong" -Luke Skywalker John 5:26 affirms the unity of the Father and the Son John 6:57 affirms the unity of the Father and the Son as well as unity of those who partake in his body and blood. That proves he was created? Ok Luke 23:46, Ecclesiastes 12:7 I'm not sure how you see this as a slam dunk. We all believe God holds our spirit in his hands after we die. To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. The proximity of being in the Father's hands doesn't debunk being uncreated. Even Jesus as the Logos was described as being in the Bosom of the Father which means extremely near or intimate. Additionally for Ecc 12:7, in the Old Testament God would give out or pour out his Spirit on the Prophets and Kings but he would also take it away. Still unsure how this shows Jesus is created without reaching. It's intriguing you try to push Zecheriah 12 into your narrative when we know God made All things Through His Logos (John 1, Colossians 1). Everyone agrees the Logos/ the Son is through which EVERYTHING was made. Even JWs, Mormons, and One-Ness Modalists. There is no passage that says "Just kidding the Logos / the Son didn't make heaven and earth but he made everything else". So either the Logos didn't actually create All Things based on some new passage or he did and you're grossly misinterpreting that passage. By this Logic of Hebrews 10:5 with your Theology, Jesus is no different than a human being who was given the Spirit of God like a Prophet. Its a weird hybrid between Mormonism and Islam. Anyway. I can tell you study this really hard. Just be careful of thinking you've discovered a magic secret that all of history as misunderstood. That's how cults start.
@@Getonthebusgus110 You claim I'm "wrong" and misinterpreting Scripture, brushing aside my arguments about John 5:26, Luke 23:46, Ecclesiastes 12:7, and Zechariah 12:1 as irrelevant or a "reach." You then suggest my understanding of Hebrews 10:5 aligns with "Mormonism and Islam," warn me against thinking I've discovered a "magic secret," and accuse me of having a "cult" mentality. This response, however, is a masterclass in deflection, misrepresentation, and ad hominem attacks. Let's break down the flaws in your reasoning point by point: Dismissal without Explanation: You declare I'm "wrong" about John 5:26 and Luke 23:46, but you offer no explanation or scriptural support for your dismissal. Simply stating I'm wrong doesn't make it true. These verses directly challenge the Trinity doctrine by portraying Jesus as receiving life from the Father and committing his spirit back to the Father upon death. Misunderstanding "Unity" and "Logos": You claim that John 5:26 and 6:57 "affirm the unity of the Father and the Son." But this "unity" doesn't equate to the Trinity's concept of co-equality. The verses actually emphasize the distinction between the Father as the source of life and the Son as the recipient. You also suggest that because Jesus is the "Logos" (Word) through whom all things were made (John 1, Colossians 1), it means he couldn't have been created. But you're conflating Jesus' role in creation as the Father's instrument with his origin. The Bible clearly distinguishes between the Father as the source and the Son as the agent through whom the Father acts. Misinterpreting Hebrews 10:5: You claim my understanding of this verse, where Jesus says the Father "prepared a body" for him, makes him "no different than a human being who was given the Spirit of God like a prophet." This is a gross misrepresentation. I've consistently argued that Jesus is unique-eternally begotten by the Father and sharing in His divine nature-but distinct from and submitted to the Father. Resorting to Ad Hominem Attacks and Fear-Mongering: You label my understanding a "weird hybrid between Mormonism and Islam" and warn me against thinking I've discovered a "magic secret" that leads to "cults." This is a classic tactic to discredit my position without engaging with the actual scriptural arguments. Failing to Address the Core Issue: You've consistently avoided the central question: If the Father is the sole source of life and spirit, as Scripture repeatedly affirms, how can the Son also possess inherent, uncreated life, as the Trinity claims? Instead of engaging with the scriptural evidence, you resort to empty pronouncements and distractions. You say: "I'm not sure how you see this as a slam dunk." "Still unsure how this shows Jesus is created without reaching." "It's intriguing you try to push Zechariah 12 into your narrative..." These statements don't refute anything; they simply express your unwillingness to grapple with the inconsistencies I've highlighted. I've presented a clear and biblically consistent argument: the Father is the ultimate source of life and authority, and the Son, while eternally begotten, is distinct from and submitted to the Father. Jesus went through a transformation, a process of "becoming," culminating in his glorification. He was "made perfect" (Hebrews 5:9) and received his exalted status as "Lord and Messiah" and "King of kings and Lord of lords" (Acts 2:36, Revelation 17:14, 19:16) after his earthly ministry, death, and resurrection. This contradicts the Trinity doctrine's claim of co-equality and eternal, unchanging existence. You've failed to provide a single verse that explicitly defines the Trinity or reconciles these contradictions. Until you do so, your claims of me being "wrong" and having a flawed understanding ring hollow. It's time to stop resorting to insults and avoidance tactics. Engage with the evidence, answer the questions, and let's see where a genuine pursuit of scriptural truth leads us.
Albert loves to clown giving these online bootleg internet Trinity sermons. When in reality Albert runs faster than anyone else I know from scripture. Albert, being the clown he is claims Jesus is unmade and is the uncreated god creator. Jesus affirms that is the Father that gives him life. John 6:57 As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who feeds on Me will live because of Me. John 5:26 For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself, 27 and has given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man. In Luke 23:46 Jesus glorifies The Father by handing His Spirit over to the Father. Luke 23:46 And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said, “Father, ‘into Your hands I commit My spirit.’ ” Having said this, He breathed His last. Jesus in Luke 23:46 John 6:57 and John 5:26 affirms Isaiah 42:5 it is God the Father who gave Jesus his soul (gives breath to walk the earth). As he did for Adam in Genesis 2:7. Jesus was not uncreated. Isaiah 42:5 5 Thus says God the LORD, Who created the heavens and stretched them out, Who spread forth the earth and that which comes from it, Who gives breath to the people on it, And spirit to those who walk on it: *Side note: we also see here that Jesus affirms it is God The Father who “who CREATED and stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth” as The uncreated God who is the creator!
@@DaScripturePlug.Albert You know your in trouble when you can bring any scripture to back up your claim clown albert. Time was created outside of time By The Most High God sop chew on that one for a while! Jesus spirit was formed outside of creation and then creation was done through Him by God the Father. Now stop your deflecting and face your false bootleg teachings. You said Jesus was the uncreated creator God. Jesus affirms that is the Father that gives him life. John 6:57 As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who feeds on Me will live because of Me. John 5:26 For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself, 27 and has given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man. In Luke 23:46 Jesus glorifies The Father by handing His Spirit over to the Father. Luke 23:46 And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said, “Father, ‘into Your hands I commit My spirit.’ ” Having said this, He breathed His last. Jesus in Luke 23:46 John 6:57 and John 5:26 affirms Isaiah 42:5 it is God the Father who gave Jesus his soul (gives breath to walk the earth). As he did for Adam in Genesis 2:7. Jesus was not uncreated. Isaiah 42:5 5 Thus says God the LORD, Who created the heavens and stretched them out, Who spread forth the earth and that which comes from it, Who gives breath to the people on it, And spirit to those who walk on it: *Side note: we also see here that Jesus affirms it is God The Father who “who CREATED and stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth” as The uncreated God who is the creator!
@@DaScripturePlug.Albert Your boy slipped. Looks like he might make his way to the truth! @solascriptura1536 " The Son (flesh) was given life by God," Jesus affirms that is the Father that gives him life. John 6:57 As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who feeds on Me will live because of Me. John 5:26 For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself, 27 and has given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man. In Luke 23:46 Jesus glorifies The Father by handing His Spirit over to the Father. Luke 23:46 And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said, “Father, ‘into Your hands I commit My spirit.’ ” Having said this, He breathed His last. Jesus in Luke 23:46 John 6:57 and John 5:26 affirms Isaiah 42:5 it is God the Father who gave Jesus his soul (gives breath to walk the earth). As he did for Adam in Genesis 2:7. Jesus was not uncreated. Isaiah 42:5 5 Thus says God the LORD, Who created the heavens and stretched them out, Who spread forth the earth and that which comes from it, Who gives breath to the people on it, And spirit to those who walk on it: *Side note: we also see here that Jesus affirms it is God The Father who “who CREATED and stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth” as The uncreated God who is the creator!
Your book confirms my book… why does allah confirm a corrupted book? Also the New Testament wasn’t written 300 years after. You’ve provided nothing but laughable ignorance….. Also your book was changed..: So yeah tough
@@DaScripturePlug.Albert yes you Christians only take the context you want, the rest you don't recognise, you say Allah confirms Injeel, yes he does, but the Quran says the original Injeel, not the distorted one, also Allah says Isa (Jesus) is not the son of God, he was the true messenger of Allah, why don't you accept this context of the Quran, after all the Almighty also says there is no trinity.
God Bless you brother 🙏
God bless you sister!
@@DaScripturePlug.Albert
Which god do you mean, is it the unipersonal God Jesus worshipped or the concocted 3 dimensional version of the church ? hhh
Will happily come on and discuss this with you. If indeed you're interested.
Sure thing. What’s your availability like
Thus Yahveh my God will come ,
And all the saints with You
Yahveh shall be King over all the earth .
In that day it shall be-------
" Yahveh is one ,"
And His name one .
Zechariah 14 : 5 - 9
Go therefore and make disciples of all nations,
Baptising them in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
" teaching them to observe all things that > I < have commanded you;
And lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age ." Amen.
Peace and blessings 🙏 ✝️ 🙏
God bless you brother
Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion;
shout, O daughter of Jerusalem:
behold, thy King cometh unto thee:
he is just, and having salvation;
lowly, and riding upon an ass,
and upon a colt the foal of an ass. Zechariah 9:9
The King that cometh is YHWH, king of all the earth. And here he comes...
And when they drew nigh unto Jerusalem, and were come to Bethphage, unto the mount of Olives, then sent Jesus two disciples, 2 Saying unto them, Go into the village over against you, and straightway ye shall find an ass tied, and a colt with her: loose them, and bring them unto me. 3 And if any man say ought unto you, ye shall say, The Lord hath need of them; and straightway he will send them. 4 All this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, 5 Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass. 6 And the disciples went, and did as Jesus commanded them, 7 And brought the ass, and the colt, and put on them their clothes, and they set him thereon. Matthew 21:1-7
Something to ponder...how does one person ride an ass AND a colt at the same time?
@@DaScripturePlug.Albert You poor Christians 😂😂😂😂
There is no mention of the term yahweh in the entire New testament. For the jews yahweh is not a trinity. Its just the father hhhh
John 17.3@@solascriptura1536
If we humans are two things ( spirit and body)made as one
Why can Yahweh NOT be three in one
Because God is not a man like the bible tells you hhh
@@Thomas20249 God is not a man that He should lie ( or uuse taqqia) nor a son of man that He should repent .
@@RabbiMalahkYah
You quoted a verse which destroys your beliefs. And as for taqia, where does the Quran say you can use taqia ? I can show you where it is in the bible very easily. For example Jesus said gice god what belongs to god and give Caeasar what belongs to Caesar hhhh
@Thomas20249 do explain the verse that destroys my belief as you've lost me on that one? As for taqqia you Muslims use it all the time . Now do show from anywhere in the Holy Bible that it is OK to lie ?
@@RabbiMalahkYah
You did not show me taqia in the Quran nor did you comment on Jesus doing taqia when he tells you give god what belongs to god and to Caesar what belongs to Caesar. As for LYING, in the bible your god supports it:
And the Lord said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.
Also Jesus didn't say he was before Abraham, that's a misinterpreted word: Is Jesus God? The SHOCKING Truth They Don’t Want You to Know! ua-cam.com/video/KGaOOmqW2WM/v-deo.html
🤣🤣🤣 ok
I know that you are Abraham's descendants, but you seek to kill Me, because My word has no place in you . I am telling you what I saw when I was with My Father. They answered and said to Him , Abraham os our father, Jesus said to them if you were Abraham's childern you would do the works of Abraham.
But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God , Abraham did not try to kill Me.
Jesus said to them, " Most assuredly , I say to you , " before Abraham was, I AM ."
Then they took up stones to stone Him for blasphemy, as they said He being a man made Himself equal with God ,thus God .
All of which can be found in John , a book that is concentrated on the divinity of Jesus , yet fools , put they toes into water teeming with crocodiles
Joh 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
The beggar said I AM like Jesus does that make him God ?
Joh 9:9 Some said, This is he: others said, He is like him: but he said, I am he.
John 8:58 - Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” INCOMPLETE SENTENCE I AM what ???? You assume I am means God because God said in Exo 3:13~14 I am who I am. When Jesus said before Abraham I am He was identifying himself and saying before Abraham I'm the one that the scriptures was talking about . I am He I am the man I Am the one I claim to be I AM the Messiah you are waiting for.
I AM in Greek means Ego Eimi and used many times in the New Testament as I am the Messiah such as in John 9:9 beggar in the street said I AM Ego Emi like Jesus said I am. Does that mean the beggar is God because he said Ego Emi I am ?
Joh 9:9 Christian disagree on this verse and have textual differences textual variant for this verse Some said Ego Emi means, This is he: others said, He is like him: but he said, ( I AM ) he. Other translation said Iam the man or Iam the one or it’s me so many different translation for the same word Ego Emi which doesn’t mean God ? translated as I AM He I am the Messiah but not I AM God ? Translation such as
Amplified Bible (AMP) Some said, “It is he.” Still others said, “No, but he looks like him.” But he kept saying, “I am the man.”
Amplified Bible, Classic Edition (AMPC) Some said, It is he. Others said, No, but he looks very much like him. But he said, Yes, I am the man.
Christian Standard Bible (CSB) Some said, “He’s the one.” Others were saying, “No, but he looks like him.” He kept saying, “I’m the one.”
Common English Bible (CEB) Some said, “It is,” and others said, “No, it’s someone who looks like him.” But the man said, “Yes, it’s me!”
The disciples of Jesus said Ego Emi does that makes them God :
In Matt 26:22 the last supper one of the disciples of Jesus said Ego Emi does that make him God
Mark 13:6 said Many will come in my name saying I AM He does that make them God for saying
I AM HE. Also in Matt 14:27 , Mark 6:50 & John 6:20 , John 8:24 & Act 26:29 Jesus said IAM HE
which means IAM the Messiah not I AM God?
you can find the meaning of I AM HE in the same chapter I AM SON OF MAN .
John 8:24 - “Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that (I AM [He],) you will die in your sins.”
Joh 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up (the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he ), and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.
Why Jesus didn't say before Adam the first creation or before the Angels ? Who did virgin Marry give birth to if Jesus was before Abraham ?
Jeremiah was probably there before Abraham too, this is what God tells Jeremiah:
Jer 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
@1541965 Did anyone other than Jesus say , I am the Alpha and the Omega,the Beginning and the End,says the Lord, Who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty? Has anyone else been worshipped, like Jesus waa ? Has any prophet, Angel or man claimed all that Jesus has ?
@@1541965 just for added ,worth, the Aramaic Holy Bible, has Jesus not only saying I AM but also says many many times , " I AM THE LIVING GOD "
this guy talks rubbish. at 4 minutes 56, he claims the angels AND the spirit comes as two separate beings. but this is what chapter 16 verse 102 actually says.
102. Say, the Holy Spirit has brought the revelation from thy Lord in Truth, in
order to strengthen those who believe, and as a Guide and Glad Tidings to
Muslims.
where did this guy get his information from.
HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT A PERSON!
Misconception: Jesus’ apostles and other early disciples believed that the holy spirit was a person.
Fact: The Bible does not say that, nor does history. The Encyclopædia Britannica states: “The definition that the Holy Spirit was a distinct divine Person . . . came at the Council of Constantinople in ad 381.” This was over 250 years after the last of the apostles had died.
The holy spirit is God’s power in action, his active force. (Micah 3:8; Luke 1:35) God sends out his spirit by projecting his energy to any place to accomplish his will.-Psalm 104:30; 139:7.
@@dazzadizzy5308 can a Power in Action or a mystical force be referred to as Lord?
@@Getonthebusgus110 So you reckon on 3 LORDS making up one GOD , try the spirit of the LORD if you are speaking of His spirit , but the heavenly realm are referred as spirit beings also . God Almighty is but one person and that's the Father .
@dazzadizzy5308
2 Corinthians 3:17
Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.
The Lord Is The Spirit.
Where He is, there is freedom.
@@Getonthebusgus110 It doesnt mean a third person of GOD as the spirit belongs to the Father which he gave to Jesus who then gave to the disciples ,Acts 2 God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of it. 33 Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear.
The truth set them free and it is the spirit of truth .
@dazzadizzy5308 you still didn't answer the original question though my man. Can you call an Impersonal power or mystical force Lord?
A crucial and often overlooked contradiction within the Trinity doctrine is the attempt to reconcile the "threeness" of the persons with the "oneness" of God often leads to a diminishing of both.
Trinitarians try to avoid the accusation of believing in three gods by claiming that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit share a common essence, which is the true "God." They argue that the persons are distinct but not separate, united in this shared essence.
However this creates a new problem: subtracting the essence of God from his personhood leaves you with a God who is less than Himself.
Here's why this is a logical and theological dilemma:
Essence Defines Being: In philosophical and theological terms, essence refers to the fundamental nature or substance of something. It's what makes something what it is. If you separate God's essence from His personhood, you're essentially saying that God's being is somehow less than His essence, which is nonsensical.
The Bible Emphasizes God's Personhood: The Scriptures consistently portray God as a personal being, not just an abstract essence. He has thoughts, feelings, will, and actions. He relates to humanity, enters into covenants, and reveals Himself through personal encounters. To divorce God's essence from His personhood is to strip Him of His very character and relational nature as revealed in the Bible.
The Logical Consequence is a Diminished God: If God's essence is somehow "greater" or more "real" than His personhood, then the God we encounter in Scripture becomes a shadow of His true self. This creates a distance between God and humanity, making Him less knowable, less relatable, and ultimately, less worthy of our worship.
The Trinity doctrine, in its attempt to balance unity and distinction, ultimately fails to do justice to either. It tries to avoid the accusation of polytheism by creating a "compound unity," but this construct ends up diminishing both the oneness of God and the distinctness of the persons.
A more biblically consistent approach is to recognize:
The Father as the one true God, the ultimate source of all things, including the Son's spirit and being.
Jesus as the Son, eternally begotten, sharing in the Father's divine nature, but distinct from and submitted to the Father.
The Holy Spirit as the Father's active agent, carrying out His will in the world.
This understanding allows for a genuine relationship between the Father and Son, avoids the logical contradiction of a "compound unity," and upholds the biblical portrayal of God as a personal and relational being, fully present in His creation and interacting with humanity.
"They argue that the persons are distinct, but not seperate. United in this shared essence."
Your position:
"The Father as the source of all things, Jesus eternally begotten sharing in his nature,
The Holy Spirit as the Father's agent carrying out his will"
Bröther, that IS 3 distinct persons not seperated all sharing one divine essence. Its just verbalized differently.
@@Getonthebusgus110 A team , trinitarians say God is a team !
@@Getonthebusgus110 There is no Trinity and this is affirmed by Jesus in scripture.
Jesus said...
John 5:26 For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself
John 6:57 As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who feeds on Me will live because of Me.
See Jesus was created.
Isaiah 43:10 Affirms God the Father's Uniqueness: This verse, where God declares, "Before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me,"
In Luke 23:46 Jesus glorifies The Father by handing His Spirit over to the Father.
Luke 23:46 And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said, “Father, ‘into Your hands I commit My spirit.’ ” Having said this, He breathed His last.
Jesus in Luke 23:46 affirms Ecclesiastes 12:7 it is God the Father who gave Jesus his spirit and Jesus was not uncreated.
Ecclesiastes 12:7
> "...and the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it."
Jesus in Luke 23:46 affirms Zechariah 12:1 it is God the Father who “formed” the spirit in Jesus and that was not uncreated.
Zechariah 12:1
1 The burden of the word of the Lord against Israel. Thus says the Lord, who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him:
*Side note: we also see here that Jesus affirms it is God The Father who “who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth” as The uncreated God who is the creator!
Jesus in Luke 23:46, John 5:26 and John 6:57 affirms Isaiah 42:5 it is God the Father who gave Jesus his soul (gives breath to walk the earth). As he did for Adam in Genesis 2:7. Jesus was not uncreated.
Isaiah 42:5
5 Thus says God the LORD,
Who created the heavens and stretched them out,
Who spread forth the earth and that which comes from it,
Who gives breath to the people on it, And spirit to those who walk on it:
*Side note: we also see here that Jesus affirms it is God The Father who “who CREATED and stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth” as The uncreated God who is the creator!
Which brings us to Hebrews 10:5
Hebrews 10:5 Therefore, when He came into the world, He said:
“Sacrifice and offering You did not desire,
But a body You have prepared for Me.”
So how did God the Father prepare a body for Jesus?
God the Father created the heavens and the Earth
God the Father informed Jesus spirit.
God the Father gave Jesus a soul (the breath of life) so Jesus could walk the earth.
Kind like the account in Genesis doesn't it!
@dougbendo8817
"Funny, everything you said was wrong" -Luke Skywalker
John 5:26 affirms the unity of the Father and the Son
John 6:57 affirms the unity of the Father and the Son as well as unity of those who partake in his body and blood.
That proves he was created? Ok
Luke 23:46, Ecclesiastes 12:7 I'm not sure how you see this as a slam dunk. We all believe God holds our spirit in his hands after we die. To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. The proximity of being in the Father's hands doesn't debunk being uncreated. Even Jesus as the Logos was described as being in the Bosom of the Father which means extremely near or intimate.
Additionally for Ecc 12:7, in the Old Testament God would give out or pour out his Spirit on the Prophets and Kings but he would also take it away. Still unsure how this shows Jesus is created without reaching.
It's intriguing you try to push Zecheriah 12 into your narrative when we know God made All things Through His Logos (John 1, Colossians 1). Everyone agrees the Logos/ the Son is through which EVERYTHING was made. Even JWs, Mormons, and One-Ness Modalists.
There is no passage that says "Just kidding the Logos / the Son didn't make heaven and earth but he made everything else". So either the Logos didn't actually create All Things based on some new passage or he did and you're grossly misinterpreting that passage.
By this Logic of Hebrews 10:5 with your Theology, Jesus is no different than a human being who was given the Spirit of God like a Prophet. Its a weird hybrid between Mormonism and Islam.
Anyway. I can tell you study this really hard. Just be careful of thinking you've discovered a magic secret that all of history as misunderstood. That's how cults start.
@@Getonthebusgus110 You claim I'm "wrong" and misinterpreting Scripture, brushing aside my arguments about John 5:26, Luke 23:46, Ecclesiastes 12:7, and Zechariah 12:1 as irrelevant or a "reach." You then suggest my understanding of Hebrews 10:5 aligns with "Mormonism and Islam," warn me against thinking I've discovered a "magic secret," and accuse me of having a "cult" mentality. This response, however, is a masterclass in deflection, misrepresentation, and ad hominem attacks.
Let's break down the flaws in your reasoning point by point:
Dismissal without Explanation: You declare I'm "wrong" about John 5:26 and Luke 23:46, but you offer no explanation or scriptural support for your dismissal. Simply stating I'm wrong doesn't make it true. These verses directly challenge the Trinity doctrine by portraying Jesus as receiving life from the Father and committing his spirit back to the Father upon death.
Misunderstanding "Unity" and "Logos": You claim that John 5:26 and 6:57 "affirm the unity of the Father and the Son." But this "unity" doesn't equate to the Trinity's concept of co-equality. The verses actually emphasize the distinction between the Father as the source of life and the Son as the recipient.
You also suggest that because Jesus is the "Logos" (Word) through whom all things were made (John 1, Colossians 1), it means he couldn't have been created. But you're conflating Jesus' role in creation as the Father's instrument with his origin. The Bible clearly distinguishes between the Father as the source and the Son as the agent through whom the Father acts.
Misinterpreting Hebrews 10:5: You claim my understanding of this verse, where Jesus says the Father "prepared a body" for him, makes him "no different than a human being who was given the Spirit of God like a prophet." This is a gross misrepresentation. I've consistently argued that Jesus is unique-eternally begotten by the Father and sharing in His divine nature-but distinct from and submitted to the Father.
Resorting to Ad Hominem Attacks and Fear-Mongering: You label my understanding a "weird hybrid between Mormonism and Islam" and warn me against thinking I've discovered a "magic secret" that leads to "cults." This is a classic tactic to discredit my position without engaging with the actual scriptural arguments.
Failing to Address the Core Issue: You've consistently avoided the central question: If the Father is the sole source of life and spirit, as Scripture repeatedly affirms, how can the Son also possess inherent, uncreated life, as the Trinity claims?
Instead of engaging with the scriptural evidence, you resort to empty pronouncements and distractions. You say:
"I'm not sure how you see this as a slam dunk."
"Still unsure how this shows Jesus is created without reaching."
"It's intriguing you try to push Zechariah 12 into your narrative..."
These statements don't refute anything; they simply express your unwillingness to grapple with the inconsistencies I've highlighted.
I've presented a clear and biblically consistent argument: the Father is the ultimate source of life and authority, and the Son, while eternally begotten, is distinct from and submitted to the Father. Jesus went through a transformation, a process of "becoming," culminating in his glorification. He was "made perfect" (Hebrews 5:9) and received his exalted status as "Lord and Messiah" and "King of kings and Lord of lords" (Acts 2:36, Revelation 17:14, 19:16) after his earthly ministry, death, and resurrection. This contradicts the Trinity doctrine's claim of co-equality and eternal, unchanging existence.
You've failed to provide a single verse that explicitly defines the Trinity or reconciles these contradictions. Until you do so, your claims of me being "wrong" and having a flawed understanding ring hollow.
It's time to stop resorting to insults and avoidance tactics. Engage with the evidence, answer the questions, and let's see where a genuine pursuit of scriptural truth leads us.
Albert loves to clown giving these online bootleg internet Trinity sermons.
When in reality Albert runs faster than anyone else I know from scripture.
Albert, being the clown he is claims Jesus is unmade and is the uncreated god creator.
Jesus affirms that is the Father that gives him life.
John 6:57 As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who feeds on Me will live because of Me.
John 5:26 For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself, 27 and has given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man.
In Luke 23:46 Jesus glorifies The Father by handing His Spirit over to the Father.
Luke 23:46 And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said, “Father, ‘into Your hands I commit My spirit.’ ” Having said this, He breathed His last.
Jesus in Luke 23:46 John 6:57 and John 5:26 affirms Isaiah 42:5 it is God the Father who gave Jesus his soul (gives breath to walk the earth). As he did for Adam in Genesis 2:7. Jesus was not uncreated.
Isaiah 42:5
5 Thus says God the LORD,
Who created the heavens and stretched them out,
Who spread forth the earth and that which comes from it,
Who gives breath to the people on it, And spirit to those who walk on it:
*Side note: we also see here that Jesus affirms it is God The Father who “who CREATED and stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth” as The uncreated God who is the creator!
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@@DaScripturePlug.Albert You know your in trouble when you can bring any scripture to back up your claim clown albert.
Time was created outside of time By The Most High God sop chew on that one for a while!
Jesus spirit was formed outside of creation and then creation was done through Him by God the Father.
Now stop your deflecting and face your false bootleg teachings.
You said Jesus was the uncreated creator God.
Jesus affirms that is the Father that gives him life.
John 6:57 As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who feeds on Me will live because of Me.
John 5:26 For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself, 27 and has given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man.
In Luke 23:46 Jesus glorifies The Father by handing His Spirit over to the Father.
Luke 23:46 And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said, “Father, ‘into Your hands I commit My spirit.’ ” Having said this, He breathed His last.
Jesus in Luke 23:46 John 6:57 and John 5:26 affirms Isaiah 42:5 it is God the Father who gave Jesus his soul (gives breath to walk the earth). As he did for Adam in Genesis 2:7. Jesus was not uncreated.
Isaiah 42:5
5 Thus says God the LORD,
Who created the heavens and stretched them out,
Who spread forth the earth and that which comes from it,
Who gives breath to the people on it, And spirit to those who walk on it:
*Side note: we also see here that Jesus affirms it is God The Father who “who CREATED and stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth” as The uncreated God who is the creator!
@@DaScripturePlug.Albert Your boy slipped. Looks like he might make his way to the truth!
@solascriptura1536 " The Son (flesh) was given life by God,"
Jesus affirms that is the Father that gives him life.
John 6:57 As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who feeds on Me will live because of Me.
John 5:26 For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself, 27 and has given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man.
In Luke 23:46 Jesus glorifies The Father by handing His Spirit over to the Father.
Luke 23:46 And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said, “Father, ‘into Your hands I commit My spirit.’ ” Having said this, He breathed His last.
Jesus in Luke 23:46 John 6:57 and John 5:26 affirms Isaiah 42:5 it is God the Father who gave Jesus his soul (gives breath to walk the earth). As he did for Adam in Genesis 2:7. Jesus was not uncreated.
Isaiah 42:5
5 Thus says God the LORD,
Who created the heavens and stretched them out,
Who spread forth the earth and that which comes from it,
Who gives breath to the people on it, And spirit to those who walk on it:
*Side note: we also see here that Jesus affirms it is God The Father who “who CREATED and stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth” as The uncreated God who is the creator!
so don't compare the bible to the Qu'ran, the bible was distorted changed, also the new testament was written after Jesus over 300 years later
Your book confirms my book… why does allah confirm a corrupted book? Also the New Testament wasn’t written 300 years after. You’ve provided nothing but laughable ignorance….. Also your book was changed..: So yeah tough
@@DaScripturePlug.Albert yes you Christians only take the context you want, the rest you don't recognise, you say Allah confirms Injeel, yes he does, but the Quran says the original Injeel, not the distorted one, also Allah says Isa (Jesus) is not the son of God, he was the true messenger of Allah, why don't you accept this context of the Quran, after all the Almighty also says there is no trinity.
Where do you get the reference that says the Gospel was ritten 300 years after Christ 😂😂😂
@DaScripturePlug.Albert, you poor Christian, you're using quran to prove your books 😂😂😂😂
@@Afghan290-b7b Nope. Bless your heart. I’m using the Quran to show that his points are unbelievably ignorant… like you