Milanese bracelet are probably their best. Mine came with a cruddy “leather” strap, replaced with alligator and now looks smooth. NATO/Zulu straps really work with Vostok. Good review
@@rickross5949 Hi Rick, I'm a British guy who's lived in Moscow the last few years. Like you (perhaps) I do like that particular Vostok - so checked out a few prices locally from authorised dealers. I'll post some links here later or over the weekend. I've never shipped anything from Russia - so the dealer will charge you for delivery (obviously) plus there may be a duty to pay at your end (I don't know if that's the case - but it would be minimal). In the last couple of years I've bought a mobile phone and an HP laptop in Russia, and had a good experience - often such gadgets come with a higher spec for the Russian market compared to the UK, Europe or US equivalent.
@@rickross5949 Prices locally (in Russia) for the Vostok Amphibia 120512 seem to vary from 4,000-5,000 Russian Roubles which is currently c.£40-50 (GBP) or $55-70 (USD). The cheapest I've seen (after a quick internet search) is 4,077 Roubles - which is an absolute steal! That even includes free delivery by courier within 1-2 days.....! I think this could be a birthday present to myself later this month.... This seems promising Rick: meranom.com/ru/amphibian-classic/120/vostok-watch-amphibian-classic-120512.html - there's an option to read the website in English, they give a contact email address and Whatsapp contact details. They say they ship worldwide too. Here's another that ships their watches worldwide: timeoclock.ru/vostok-120512/ I haven't used either company so can't give you any reliable information about each dealer or a recommendation about where to buy your watch, but of the 2 links, the 1st (Meranom) seems more geared up for shipping overseas to English-speaking customers. An extra tip, if you're looking at Russian watch retailers' websites online and need to translate the site/part of the site to English, I would definitely recommend using Yandex Translate (not Google). If you copy any webpage (that's in Russian) and paste it into Yandex it will translate the page for you and give you a far more accurate translation than Google (which copes very poorly with Russian).
@@grantchallinor5263 Man, that’s awesome Grant! Thank you so much for taking the time to reply and in great detail too! It is much appreciated! I’m definitely gonna check out some of the links you included. Thank you so much 🙏🏼 I am busy working now but will check them out soon as I am off. Hopefully I can grab one and translate in time to checkout before they are gone 😅 I originally saw the review of this watch on Teddy Baldassarre’s UA-cam channel and I fell in love with it especially bc of the price. If you haven’t heard of him check out his page and review of this watch. His genuine passion for watches has gotten me back into them. I used to be into them big when I was in high school as my dad is big into antique clocks & had peaked my interest nice wrist watches & timepieces.
@@rickross5949 You're welcome Rick. You might get more results by searching in Russian using "Восток Амфибия 120512." I've no personal experience having items shipped (for me) from Russia to another country but, reading a few comments, it takes a while.....
i got this vostok and doubled my watch collection from one to a whopping two. it took about a year to get it since it's backordered, and because my russian friend finally hand-delivered it after months of holding onto it during the war (slava ukraini) before taking an out of country vacation my notes: the strap on mine is a bit different, shaped like a metal band made of black rubber, and i like it very much. i had a nato strap all ready to install but i removed it the very next day to go back to the original which i prefer by far i have small wrists and my big concern was that it would look too big, but it wears great and i wouldn't change the size at all if i could. i have 4 strap holes to spare from where it buckles on me everyone complains about the lume, but, not me. maybe it is not as bright as some other makes out there, but i can still read the time after hours in darkness, while my bulova can barely keep enough glow for 15 minutes mine seems to be running a bit fast, possibly +15 sec/day but i'll try my hand at regulating it i really like this watch and i know it'll be my daily wearer for a long time, with its classic looks, soviet-kitschy markings, and self-winding mechanical movement
привет! очень хороший обзор очень радует что наши часы известны за рубежом и нравятся людям если я не ошибаюсь, прототипом этих часов были часы которые были в космосе тоже Восток само собой
I put mine on a blueish gray nato and made it my daily watch I wear to work. I do warehousing and wanted something I could beat the crap out of but still looked pretty nice and its served me well.
Hi, firstly - thanks for the review, straight to the point, very informative. Secondly, I would like to ask you about thickness of the case. You mentioned that it does not feel as thick as 15 mm might suggest, do you find it comfortable even for some manual work ? I'm kinda put off by the fact, that I might smash it into things when doing some gardening and stuff around house. On the other hand, its Vostok - it is supposed to survive a lot of stuff ! Thanks :)
It’s the crystal that adds to the thickness, not so much the case. If you hit it, it will scratch. I have not hit it really, but I’m careful. I would not reach into a car engine bank or something though. No Issues for me whilst doing yard work or moving. Thanks for the feedback.
I have a 120811 which is also a no date model with black dial. I bought mine on Amazon so it was a little more expensive. It took about 6 weeks for me to receive it. These watches are worth it if you need an attractive automatic watch to wear every day. You get a lot for the money. There is no need to be overly critical of the quality of this watch. You get more than you pay for in my opinion. That being said, Vostoc watches do have flaws. For one thing, they rust. Vostoc uses inferior quality steel in the cases and crowns plus the bezels are usually base metal plated. If you don't mind it doesn't matter. These watches are meant to be worn and enjoyed. They are not really collectors items.
@@dannydiamondboy Rust is not a big issue as if you begin to see it forming it will clean off with a rag and some elbow grease. Its just a lower quality steel than other company's use. They are good daily beater watches to have and enjoy.
Nice review!I’ve had a hard time finding info that distinguishes the difference between these watches that have the blue lines on the bezel and ones that have blue dots on the bezel.both claim to be new original 120512 model from Russia.Any info?thanks
I am happy with it. I have to be honest, I don’t wear it often, so I haven’t timed it to see the accuracy. It still works good enough for me. I wore it whilst moving furniture for a couple days, banged it around and it still runs good for me. Sorry, I wish I could provide more. Cheers.
I have the 120 case with this same dial ua-cam.com/video/aR1CH_QQGmo/v-deo.html&ab_channel=WatchOn and a black Vostok bezel from Meranom, recommended combination but I dare the Vostok company if getting out of business, almost everything is out os stock.
After these years has the crown rusted with normal use sweat or salt water or has this model hold up? I want to buy one but don't know if I need to change the crown immediately.
This used to be caused by galvanic corrosion because of different materials in the case and crown. All watches produced the last years should be fine. I swam in the ocean with mine, and no issues at all. (I rinsed it with fresh water a couple of hours later, though.)
Hi great watch ! I'm planning to buy a vostok soon and it's going tobe my first automatic watch. Should I rotate the crown daily to keep this watch running?
Thanks! If you keep wearing it, you don’t need to wind it. Naturally if it stops taking, you’ll have to wind it or wear it. If you’re wearing the watch you don’t need to wind it every day, and winds itself. Enjoy the watch!
Ok. I just got one of these on eBay. I have questions. One, is that the standard strap? The one I got doesn’t look like that. I have ordered a NATO strap. Second, my crown seems loose and is hard to get to the proper positions for setting time, winding, etc. Is that normal or did I get a crappy one or possibly a used one? Or maybe it was damaged in transit?
Vostok watches I think Vostok watches are very decent watches; to begin with they have a clear identity and tradition. However, at the same time, I think the company should pay more attention to issues like shipment and its lead time. They can not just blame the pandemic for the long time their product takes to get to the final destination; they should engage in a proactive task that reach the Russian Post, etc., and avoid lost in transit products, which happened to me. My point: ordering from Germany to USA and using normal post services takes about 2 weeks to get to USA soil, to the customer. So, why Vostok seems like not to care about lead times? Is Vostoc just covering Russian Post inefficiencies? Sorry to say that , as a whole, country-wise, this issue shown on the video and others like the one I am describing , creates a negative perception on the country, it reflects a "third world" image.
I think the watches are great, Shipping took a long time for me in both cases. I have Had some harsh critiques of my mentioning of slow shipping so I don’t know. Someone said that I was spoiled ha ha. I got my watches before the pandemic hit so it wouldn’t surprise me if the shipping is even slower now
I was told 6-8 weeks to get to Canada and received mine in 5...I’m not complaining. Awesome watch for the money, zero issues...even keeps time well so far, still within a few seconds after 2 weeks of wearing it 😎👍
@SynthFrost Yes, and to get to Singapore took 12 days. I dedicated plenty of time following the Lost in Transit package, I learned several things: 1.- Postal service company in the shipping country works better than good ; they carry the parcel to the "border", do customs and deliver to a member of the Universal Postal Union (coordinator of international mail). 2.- At that point your suffering starts; the coordination includes other members to include USPS. Once you are able to track your parcel in USPS website, THAT MEANS, USPS is coordinating , controlling and is responsible for your parcel. HOWEVER , it could be perfectly sitting in a warehouse of a 3rd party (another member) OR traveling the world through OTHER members. 3.- Because of that , eventually, if it is not lost, you will magically see that your parcel , all of the sudden , shows up, in a local USPS' Distribution Center.... ... in summary... your package should be within USPS area of responsibility... they dont disclose that... they just allow tracking... your package is traveling or sitting somewhere... if not lost by the 3rd party - member... eventually will show up... USPS has a lot of flows outside of USA
The store I got it from on ebay does not really seem to have anything for sale anymore. The seller is called "gorelowo1". Here is the ref: vostok 120512. I see a couple on ebay. Out of stock on Meranom. I bought this in 2017 so it has been a while since I looked.
@@BlueRam788 Oh damn ok. Well thanks for the reply & info I’ll keep looking. That’s the exact one I want. I was actually in the market for a Seiko field/dive watch with a rubber/canvas band and stumbled upon this & for the price sold me!
@@Dave062YT If standard SKX007 measures fit em all, not just this one, then they may well be. Source of the confusion is, if you visit some of the retail commercial sites you'll find descriptions like "Good to Vostok Amphibian watches with first 2 digits of number : 06, 09, 10, 11, 71" (vostok-poljot site) "420, 710, 120,960,060,090, 100, 110, 150, 020, 160, 670, 650,350" (meranom site ...lists out all the above and everything else, too.) Elsewhere you find ones marked as 'universal'. There is some, probably negligible (?) variance in the inner diameter measures according to some specs, such as 31.00mm vs 31.50mm. Not sure if there is difference here in reality. If you're right (you probably are), one can't help but wonder why sellers list out Amphibia case types that the bezels fit, if it doesn't matter since they're all the same... ?
yes it is produced but it's been on serious backorder due to a few prominent youtubers promoting this particular model. i had mine ordered directly from vostok within russia and they were trying to get me to pick a different one to avoid the big wait i indeed encountered. then again however i wouldn't order it right now anyways, not until russia is defeated in ukraine!
Very nice I own 7 of the case shapes not a 120 yet so will very soon .I prefer no date too ,far less hassle .ps If you want something that stands out get a 110 .As far as I know it's the only model with crown guards .Here's mine very heavily customized but you get the idea instagram.com/p/CREjiKOrM8e/
I guess it is back in stock now: meranom.com/en/amphibian-classic/120/vostok-watch-amphibian-classic-120512.html
Milanese bracelet are probably their best.
Mine came with a cruddy “leather” strap, replaced with alligator and now looks smooth.
NATO/Zulu straps really work with Vostok.
Good review
The dial of your watch is very nice. Looks like the perfect beach watch.
I have that same model on a bond Nato and I absolutely love it. Amazing watch for the price. Good reveiw.
Thanks, I appreciate it. All the best!
Has your crown rust like many people say?
@@AldoEsAmor nope
@@Miguel_GM Awesome, thanks!
If you hunt around, you can pick up this watch new for £40 / $55 - it's an amazing watch and a steal at that price.
I’m looking as we speak. Do you have any links where I could find? Thanks in advance 🙏🏼
@@rickross5949 Hi Rick, I'm a British guy who's lived in Moscow the last few years. Like you (perhaps) I do like that particular Vostok - so checked out a few prices locally from authorised dealers. I'll post some links here later or over the weekend.
I've never shipped anything from Russia - so the dealer will charge you for delivery (obviously) plus there may be a duty to pay at your end (I don't know if that's the case - but it would be minimal).
In the last couple of years I've bought a mobile phone and an HP laptop in Russia, and had a good experience - often such gadgets come with a higher spec for the Russian market compared to the UK, Europe or US equivalent.
@@rickross5949 Prices locally (in Russia) for the Vostok Amphibia 120512 seem to vary from 4,000-5,000 Russian Roubles which is currently c.£40-50 (GBP) or $55-70 (USD). The cheapest I've seen (after a quick internet search) is 4,077 Roubles - which is an absolute steal! That even includes free delivery by courier within 1-2 days.....! I think this could be a birthday present to myself later this month....
This seems promising Rick: meranom.com/ru/amphibian-classic/120/vostok-watch-amphibian-classic-120512.html - there's an option to read the website in English, they give a contact email address and Whatsapp contact details. They say they ship worldwide too.
Here's another that ships their watches worldwide: timeoclock.ru/vostok-120512/
I haven't used either company so can't give you any reliable information about each dealer or a recommendation about where to buy your watch, but of the 2 links, the 1st (Meranom) seems more geared up for shipping overseas to English-speaking customers.
An extra tip, if you're looking at Russian watch retailers' websites online and need to translate the site/part of the site to English, I would definitely recommend using Yandex Translate (not Google). If you copy any webpage (that's in Russian) and paste it into Yandex it will translate the page for you and give you a far more accurate translation than Google (which copes very poorly with Russian).
@@grantchallinor5263 Man, that’s awesome Grant! Thank you so much for taking the time to reply and in great detail too! It is much appreciated! I’m definitely gonna check out some of the links you included. Thank you so much 🙏🏼 I am busy working now but will check them out soon as I am off. Hopefully I can grab one and translate in time to checkout before they are gone 😅 I originally saw the review of this watch on Teddy Baldassarre’s UA-cam channel and I fell in love with it especially bc of the price. If you haven’t heard of him check out his page and review of this watch. His genuine passion for watches has gotten me back into them. I used to be into them big when I was in high school as my dad is big into antique clocks & had peaked my interest nice wrist watches & timepieces.
@@rickross5949 You're welcome Rick. You might get more results by searching in Russian using "Восток Амфибия 120512." I've no personal experience having items shipped (for me) from Russia to another country but, reading a few comments, it takes a while.....
i got this vostok and doubled my watch collection from one to a whopping two. it took about a year to get it since it's backordered, and because my russian friend finally hand-delivered it after months of holding onto it during the war (slava ukraini) before taking an out of country vacation
my notes:
the strap on mine is a bit different, shaped like a metal band made of black rubber, and i like it very much. i had a nato strap all ready to install but i removed it the very next day to go back to the original which i prefer by far
i have small wrists and my big concern was that it would look too big, but it wears great and i wouldn't change the size at all if i could. i have 4 strap holes to spare from where it buckles on me
everyone complains about the lume, but, not me. maybe it is not as bright as some other makes out there, but i can still read the time after hours in darkness, while my bulova can barely keep enough glow for 15 minutes
mine seems to be running a bit fast, possibly +15 sec/day but i'll try my hand at regulating it
i really like this watch and i know it'll be my daily wearer for a long time, with its classic looks, soviet-kitschy markings, and self-winding mechanical movement
привет!
очень хороший обзор
очень радует что наши часы известны за рубежом и нравятся людям
если я не ошибаюсь, прототипом этих часов были часы которые были в космосе тоже Восток само собой
I put mine on a blueish gray nato and made it my daily watch I wear to work. I do warehousing and wanted something I could beat the crap out of but still looked pretty nice and its served me well.
so mad I cannot buy sarb033 so in the mean time I'm gonna play with this one
thanks for the informative video!!
I love Vostok’s. I’ve had mine for a few months now and it’s great. I made a couple of videos on it too!
lume pips are done by hand
Great review man,
Can you tell me please what is the strap lenght?
Thanks.
I got the 120811 myself. Very happy with its aesthetics.
Nice, it is a looker for sure. Enjoy!
I have this one. A very good Omega James Bond homage.
Hi, firstly - thanks for the review, straight to the point, very informative.
Secondly, I would like to ask you about thickness of the case. You mentioned that it does not feel as thick as 15 mm might suggest, do you find it comfortable even for some manual work ? I'm kinda put off by the fact, that I might smash it into things when doing some gardening and stuff around house. On the other hand, its Vostok - it is supposed to survive a lot of stuff !
Thanks :)
It’s the crystal that adds to the thickness, not so much the case. If you hit it, it will scratch. I have not hit it really, but I’m careful. I would not reach into a car engine bank or something though. No
Issues for me whilst doing yard work or moving. Thanks for the feedback.
@@BlueRam788 I will probably get one because they really do offer ton of fun for little cash. Thank you again for your answer and review
Really cool review! You think it would look better if you brushed the bezel and case? I think it would.
Sorry for the late reply, but I think a brushed version would be very nice actually.
I have a 120811 which is also a no date model with black dial. I bought mine on Amazon so it was a little more expensive. It took about 6 weeks for me to receive it. These watches are worth it if you need an attractive automatic watch to wear every day. You get a lot for the money. There is no need to be overly critical of the quality of this watch. You get more than you pay for in my opinion. That being said, Vostoc watches do have flaws. For one thing, they rust. Vostoc uses inferior quality steel in the cases and crowns plus the bezels are usually base metal plated. If you don't mind it doesn't matter. These watches are meant to be worn and enjoyed. They are not really collectors items.
Hey - if I keep it away from water, will it still rust or no?
@@dannydiamondboy Rust is not a big issue as if you begin to see it forming it will clean off with a rag and some elbow grease. Its just a lower quality steel than other company's use. They are good daily beater watches to have and enjoy.
Hello, I don' know if you are active but is it solid ?
I own one, they’re solid.
(200m water resistance)
Even though it’s smaller than my K65, it’s still a firm watch on the wrist.
Nice review!I’ve had a hard time finding info that distinguishes the difference between these watches that have the blue lines on the bezel and ones that have blue dots on the bezel.both claim to be new original 120512 model from Russia.Any info?thanks
I have this model in transit to me. Cost was 88 USD plus shipping. Oct 2023
It’s a year later. Is yours still running and are you happy with it? What’s the accuracy like now?
I am happy with it. I have to be honest, I don’t wear it often, so I haven’t timed it to see the accuracy. It still works good enough for me. I wore it whilst moving furniture for a couple days, banged it around and it still runs good for me. Sorry, I wish I could provide more. Cheers.
I've bought 8 amphibias so far but still cant decide between black or white dial in this 120
I have the 120 case with this same dial ua-cam.com/video/aR1CH_QQGmo/v-deo.html&ab_channel=WatchOn and a black Vostok bezel from Meranom, recommended combination but I dare the Vostok company if getting out of business, almost everything is out os stock.
Thanks for review
After these years has the crown rusted with normal use sweat or salt water or has this model hold up? I want to buy one but don't know if I need to change the crown immediately.
This used to be caused by galvanic corrosion because of different materials in the case and crown. All watches produced the last years should be fine. I swam in the ocean with mine, and no issues at all. (I rinsed it with fresh water a couple of hours later, though.)
Hi great watch ! I'm planning to buy a vostok soon and it's going tobe my first automatic watch. Should I rotate the crown daily to keep this watch running?
Thanks! If you keep wearing it, you don’t need to wind it. Naturally if it stops taking, you’ll have to wind it or wear it. If you’re wearing the watch you don’t need to wind it every day, and winds itself. Enjoy the watch!
@@BlueRam788 thanks a ton for your info good luck buddy 😊
Lug to lug is 49mm not 46mm.
Unstoppable93 not according to Meranom. meranom.com/en/amphibian-classic/120/vostok-watch-amphibian-classic-120512.html
@@BlueRam788 You should measure it yourself. I did, and it is 49mm.
The one I ordered has the red second hand, any difference?
Ok. I just got one of these on eBay. I have questions. One, is that the standard strap? The one I got doesn’t look like that. I have ordered a NATO strap.
Second, my crown seems loose and is hard to get to the proper positions for setting time, winding, etc. Is that normal or did I get a crappy one or possibly a used one? Or maybe it was damaged in transit?
This is the strap that came with mine. The crown is loose, that’s a Vostok quirk. You need to get it to almost “catch” before setting time.
@@BlueRam788 thank you! My first Vostok so making sure I did not get hosed. Have a great day!
would you recommend to put a nato strap on it?
Personally, I am not a nato fan so I have not tried it, but a Nato would absolutely work on this watch.
@@BlueRam788 good to know, thanks bro
That lum dots you complained about - is handmade each, one by one, by old russian womans😎☝️🤣🤣
Vostok watches
I think Vostok watches are very decent watches; to begin with they have a clear identity and tradition. However, at the same time, I think the company should pay more attention to issues like shipment and its lead time. They can not just blame the pandemic for the long time their product takes to get to the final destination; they should engage in a proactive task that reach the Russian Post, etc., and avoid lost in transit products, which happened to me. My point: ordering from Germany to USA and using normal post services takes about 2 weeks to get to USA soil, to the customer. So, why Vostok seems like not to care about lead times? Is Vostoc just covering Russian Post inefficiencies? Sorry to say that , as a whole, country-wise, this issue shown on the video and others like the one I am describing , creates a negative perception on the country, it reflects a "third world" image.
I think the watches are great, Shipping took a long time for me in both cases. I have Had some harsh critiques of my mentioning of slow shipping so I don’t know. Someone said that I was spoiled ha ha. I got my watches before the pandemic hit so it wouldn’t surprise me if the shipping is even slower now
I was told 6-8 weeks to get to Canada and received mine in 5...I’m not complaining. Awesome watch for the money, zero issues...even keeps time well so far, still within a few seconds after 2 weeks of wearing it 😎👍
@SynthFrost Yes, and to get to Singapore took 12 days.
I dedicated plenty of time following the Lost in Transit package, I learned several things:
1.- Postal service company in the shipping country works better than good ; they carry the parcel to the "border", do customs and deliver to a member of the Universal Postal Union (coordinator of international mail).
2.- At that point your suffering starts; the coordination includes other members to include USPS. Once you are able to track your parcel in USPS website, THAT MEANS, USPS is coordinating , controlling and is responsible for your parcel. HOWEVER , it could be perfectly sitting in a warehouse of a 3rd party (another member) OR traveling the world through OTHER members.
3.- Because of that , eventually, if it is not lost, you will magically see that your parcel , all of the sudden , shows up, in a local USPS' Distribution Center....
... in summary... your package should be within USPS area of responsibility... they dont disclose that... they just allow tracking... your package is traveling or sitting somewhere... if not lost by the 3rd party - member... eventually will show up...
USPS has a lot of flows outside of USA
Is this one Fully stainless steel case?? or brass?
I think the cheaper classic Amphibias are Brass. Caseback is steel I think
I have heard that the recent ones are stainless steel.
Do you have a/the link where you bought this from? Thanks in advance 🙏🏼
The store I got it from on ebay does not really seem to have anything for sale anymore. The seller is called "gorelowo1". Here is the ref: vostok 120512. I see a couple on ebay. Out of stock on Meranom. I bought this in 2017 so it has been a while since I looked.
@@BlueRam788 Oh damn ok. Well thanks for the reply & info I’ll keep looking. That’s the exact one I want. I was actually in the market for a Seiko field/dive watch with a rubber/canvas band and stumbled upon this & for the price sold me!
I have this one. A great looking watch but it has run from new like a Jamaican sprinter and sits unused in my drawer.
I really love the look too, but I don't wear it as often as I should. The rubber strap is great, but I love bracelets
Does anyone know if I can find a YELLOW bezel that suits this case type (12)? I've found yellow bezels on Meranom but not for this case.
I have modded several Amphobias [tho not a 120] aren't they all the same size ??
@@Dave062YT If standard SKX007 measures fit em all, not just this one, then they may well be. Source of the confusion is, if you visit some of the retail commercial sites you'll find descriptions like
"Good to Vostok Amphibian watches with first 2 digits of number : 06, 09, 10, 11, 71" (vostok-poljot site)
"420, 710, 120,960,060,090, 100, 110, 150, 020, 160, 670, 650,350" (meranom site ...lists out all the above and everything else, too.)
Elsewhere you find ones marked as 'universal'.
There is some, probably negligible (?) variance in the inner diameter measures according to some specs, such as 31.00mm vs 31.50mm. Not sure if there is difference here in reality.
If you're right (you probably are), one can't help but wonder why sellers list out Amphibia case types that the bezels fit, if it doesn't matter since they're all the same... ?
Anyone know if this model is still being produced?
yes it is produced but it's been on serious backorder due to a few prominent youtubers promoting this particular model. i had mine ordered directly from vostok within russia and they were trying to get me to pick a different one to avoid the big wait i indeed encountered. then again however i wouldn't order it right now anyways, not until russia is defeated in ukraine!
There’s no such word as indisee
true....... although there is indices, plural of index, pronounced indisees
And what would be the reason for the loose crown then?
It is pulled out from the movement to avoid damage I guess. I’m sure you can find a better explanation with a Google search.
Very nice I own 7 of the case shapes not a 120 yet so will very soon .I prefer no date too ,far less hassle .ps If you want something that stands out get a 110 .As far as I know it's the only model with crown guards .Here's mine very heavily customized but you get the idea
instagram.com/p/CREjiKOrM8e/