ELIZABETH, It's September Sun! | Type O Negative Reaction
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"Lost man in time, was his name Peter?" Still gets me in the feels. Gone but not forgotten
Saaaame!!!
Green man don't live long
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Not forgotten, and will never be.
September Sun is really the third part of a trilogy of songs that traverses the entire arc of a life-changing love-and-loss story. it begins with Love You to Death, the second act is Anesthesia, and then wraps up in bitter sweet acceptance with September Sun.
and the fact he died only a few years later…..man….
"What do we sound like? We sound like Black Sabbath meets The Beatles rehearsing drunk on a haunted factory." - Peter Steele
Thank you as always for honoring Pete and the perfect music of Type O Negative 🖤
A few things to help with the song. Elizabeth was Peters girlfriend of 10+ years. Flatbush was the town / area in New York that Peter grew up in (Flatbush porch). Other songs with interesting lyrics / means to do next would be Nettie (about Peters mother), Todd’s Ship Gods (about his father) or The Dream is Dead.
appreciate the reality behind the music we love
Don't question yourself Lauren, I love that transition as well! Oh yeah, always loved Kenny's vocals and his addition to this song. Cheers!
Peter coming out as Peta, is his accent coming through. They've got Brooklyn accents in there speaking voices.
I can give you SOME context even though I don’t know the exact details:
Peter suffered debilitating shyness and low self-esteem, to the point he should have had anxiety treatment but self-medicated with alcohol to get through live performances. He would have rather thrown up and run away than get onstage. He didn’t run, puking happened sometimes, because the band had agreed to ride the ride to the end whatever happened when they started the band, because this was how they all got their paychecks and he wasn’t going to screw it up for them, and he honored his commitments unless he’d accidentally committed to a lie or there were false pretenses or something. While people tend to think it’s a ton of alcohol, remember his size, how much he was metabolizing with the muscle mass he had & activity of a concert; instead of running away he’d sit or pace alone backstage nursing and finishing ~ 1/2gal wine for about 1-2hrs before time to go on stage, then he’d straight up down a bottle right before he had to walk on and generally continue drinking during the set if it was very long at all (along with water too at this point), but as much as it SEEMS like he was drinking, wine has a low % of alcohol, an average person burns off a glass an hour, he was so huge it probably took at least downing an entire bottle at once, possibly 2, to even get tipsy, and speaking from experience, I think Polish, Russian and maybe just Slavic people have been drinking Vodka for so many generations even as children (you drank what was clean, available, and if it was winter, what would keep you from freezing) that we just have built in alcohol tolerance.*read the end for what I learned about Slavic tolerance* He’d also NEVER expected the success they’d gotten, the band had had higher expectations than him, but they’d been surprised too (even though we all know it should have been more but their songs didn’t get radio play due to length or content and the band DID have an offer to go MUCH bigger (different label or something paying a lot more but bigger venues with more well known bands so sold out guarantees or something) but they turned it down for Peter’s sake. He said he’d do it. They’d all known each other since they were kids, knew how hard it was on him already and that he’d always do what was needed for the band because that was their income and how they supported their families so unless it was a “can’t” issue rather than an “i don’t want to issue” he wouldn’t have believed in any single person interfering with the rest of their jobs and income. He never knew they turned it down for him though because it would have involved moving so they used their family as excuses). So he was dealing with severe anxiety, low self-esteem, and feeling immense pressure not to let anyone down, then he had ALL the fan girls throwing themselves at him, which was fine for a one nighter, but they wanted the guy from onstage and who they THOUGHT he was… so he was very unlucky in love. He tried to get sober a couple times but it didn’t last because tours happened again and he wasn’t treating the real problem, just the problem from his self meds.
He’d been sober for quite a while b4 he died (diverticulitis went septic causing a heart attack, symptoms went unnoticed because he’d become used to them while drinking and were attributed to the digestive problems of an alcoholic at the time).
However, in this song he’d found someone that liked/loved HIM, not THE Peter Steele, but dropped him like a hot potato due to the personality changes from who he was normally to who he was during/after a tour (aka after a sometimes year long drinking binge). Then even after he’d gotten sober for good and the band was willing to support him with what HE needed to stay that way, she still treated him like he was the same person as before, and something like that after all the ups and downs and hard work makes you feel hollow and that it was pointless.
*I know in my house my Polish dad thought having a legal drinking age where you could die for your country without legally having a beer was beyond idiotic and my mom just cared about safety so we could drink if we wanted as long as we 1. weren’t driving till the next day 2. Had an older sibling or a legal friend with us while we drank OR 3. stayed at home to drink; so when I turned 16 I decided I wanted to try getting drunk instead of having a tiny taste of whatever someone else might be having that I’d never tried before (how I learned I didn’t like the taste of ANY alcohol so if I was going to drink I either had to do shots or mixes that made it unnoticeable). My older brothers were thrilled and couldn’t wait to help and see me act like an idiot as I was the “good kid” (I was just the youngest so I saw what everyone else did wrong and didn’t do those things, not rocket science) but they wanted to make fun of whatever silly things I ended up doing, probably for the rest of my life. Complete failure, I drank everything we had in the house that wasn’t “expensive don’t touch” and nothing happened, they took me to the grocery store then a friend’s house and they were getting desperate so they had me chug the entire 6 pack of Zima they’d pooled money to buy and I got a little tipsy but it went away in like, 15 mins, that’s when the friend started pouring double shots of something cherry flavored in a bad bad way and only stopped when they could tell it was working, then gave me another just to be sure and that finally got me drunk. Mostly I just felt sick with all the different crap I drank on an empty stomach instead of being able to enjoy being drunk for the first time ever and knowing I was in a safe environment (my brothers could screw with me till I cried, if anyone else looked at me wrong they’d be on them like white on rice, god forbid someone was actually interested in me even for a regular date… if they didn’t get scared off appropriately I think they might actually have filed a missing persons report a dumped the body). I know it took the equivalent of 12 back to back drinks, NOT including what I’d had at home, to get drunk at 120lbs and 5’6 1/2”. So over the next couple weeks I checked, and sure enough everyone on that side of the family can sip straight liquor (Vodka, Rum, Gin, Whiskey, Moonshine etc.) out of a regular sized glass they can fill for the evening to chill out with for the “taste” without getting tipsy at all. One of my brothers ended up collecting a full bar over time and working his way through the “The Essential Bar Book: A to Z Guide to Spirits, Cocktails, and Wine” using what he had for the recipes and slowly buying more ingredients if they weren’t stupidly priced. He did 2-3/night depending on alcohol content and checked them off in the book along with his feedback and rating in the margins.
to me this song has always been like what I imagine nostalgia feels like, or the piano at least. it makes me feel all sentimental
Type O Negative is my favorite band and I have loved watching you react to their songs. It's too bad you never had a chance to see them live. They always put on a great show.
You should definitely check out songs from the album World Coming Down--especially the title track or Pyretta Blaze. They also have an amazing Beatles medley comprised of Day Tripper, If I Needed Someone, and She's So Heavy.
Can't wait for the next one!
Dead Again is my second favorite album (behind Bloody Kisses). No duds on this album. It was Type-O's last record before Pete died.
Thank you Lauren.
This make's me well up every time.
BTW Kenny does the shouting parts, very well I might add.
Try Tripping a Blind Man or the Profit Of Doom off this record. Outstanding song writing and the performances on this record are their best in my opinion.
Thanks again.
I would suggest from this album, These Three Things. It's such a heavy song lyrically and relevant to an extremely divisive topic right now. I was blown away by the lyrics when I finally read them one day. I never knew what it was about, I just liked it. I never knew about him becoming a Christian again either until I read the lyrics and looked into it.
Then I'm like, "Dead Again" ohhhhhhh, i get it now. XD
Dead Again is amazing!
You'll love World Coming Down or A Dish Best Served Coldly. 🖤💚
Dish! Dish! Dish!
I have to thank you ❤. Not enough people ever appreciated his music OR his truly fantastic voice. Few rock, of any type, singers can actually sing and he can SING + has a GORGEOUS voice and sound.
Thank you for this. I love watching people discover and genuinely enjoy Type O. I'm still pulling for The Dream is Dead. It may not top Anesthesia but I think you would like it. Some great depressingly dark lyrics in that one as well.
Omg Yess! The Dream is Dead is amazing. Totally vote this one
Great anti-valentines day song
I'm loving this Type O Negative saga! Great vid
1991 - Slow, Deep and Hard
1993 - Bloody Kisses
1996 - October Rust
1999 - World Coming Down
2003 - Life Is Killing Me
2007 - Dead Again
Can’t forget origin of the feces
@@BlackTooth9606IKYFSE!
@@areyoutheregoditsmedave HKYFSE!
Peter would always describe Type O’s sound as a mix of The Beatles and Black Sabbath
Heads up - The song "She Burned Me Down" off Dead Again has more of the unidentifiable language in it. Love it!!!! Love everything they ever did!!!
Amazing song!
I love your reviews of type o negative. They are very interesting & I hope you keep reviewing more songs.
I’m glad you are dipping into this last album they created because it’s front to back incredible.
Nice...my favorite TON song. Really happy you went with the full version...the section with their version of martial music to some sort of political rally and Peter singing in his Vinnish language adds a great twist to the song, IMO
I love that you did this. This was the last video before Peter passed. Would love to see you react to the video of Everything Dies. I know you do the song first which is completely fine. Love your channel.
Don't know if it's ever been brought up in the comments but your Lennon shirt is an interesting connection since the band had stated multiple times that the two biggest inspirations and a kind of goal of theirs was to make a band that was the Beatles meets Black Sabbath and you can clearly puck up those sections in many of their songs that have a Beatles feel to them. Even in this one you could imagine sections of it without the heavy guitars and it totally sounds like the Beatles. Hey that's a good idea for a future video, do one of their many Beatles covers. I thankfully, was able to see them live on the tour for this album and they played Magical Mystery Tour live. That was an unforgettable show, just so many incredible moments.
Also I want to hear your reaction to a different song from the same album as Anesthesia, "Life Is Killing Me." I can't say which one would be the best because that song is probably my favorite from that album as well. Maybe Nettie or Less Than Zero. (We Were) Electrocute is good too.
Love September sun, so much emotion right here
"Did it give you pleasure to steal my soul", great line. My theory is, Elizabeth was a redhead, naturally redheads don't have souls, so she took Peter's just to be whole. And before any hatred, this is a joke, and I myself am of the ginger persuasion 😁
Funny the John Lennon connection. Intro piano kind of sounds like Imagine
Probably my favorite Type O song. Thanks for reacting to it
Type O was also called the drab four after the Beatles, the dab four. Often, Kenny would sort of play like John Lennon screaming in the background. You can hear the comparison in their vocal styles, in this song more than usual in my opinion.
Type O is what you get if the Beatles and Black Sabbath had a baby.
They had a way of honoring and making omages to many classic bands and songs, from the Beatles to Don Henley!
The unsuccessful coping with the natural beauty of infidelity is a definite must listen to by Type O Negative.
He still loved elizabeth by the time of writing this song and he still seen her around flashing images of her golden hair, everything inside his mind. i wish to know where is that elizabeth today anyone knows?
Elizabeth has a Facebook but it is currently inactive.
I would like to see her... What's her surname?
5.4K!! WONDERFUL JOB LAUREN
Found your channel yesterday and enjoying your discussions of Type O Negative👍 fan since the 90s. My love for the band evolves as I’m sure other fans can attest to. NO other voice like Peter’s. Thank you!
Could you please do stay out of my dreams by Type o, and hail and farewell to Britain also by them?:)
Never fails to make me remember how crying feels, 😂
Hey, you might want to check out Kenny Hickey in Seventh Void, "Heaven's Gone"
"He just started speaking another language."
I'm pretty sure Peter came up with his own made up language he called Vinnish from Vinland. I'm guessing that's probably what you heard. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong on that.
There is actually a song entirely in this language, but it's not exactly a Type O Negative song. There was a project back in the day called Roadrunner United, various musicians from different bands on Roadrunner Records teamed up to write a bunch of songs for a compilation album. There were 4 team captains, one of which was Joey Jordison of Slipknot. Joey and Peter Steele did a song together called Enemy of the State, it's a great song even though I have no clue what the lyrics are supposed to mean.
ua-cam.com/video/MhBjQ3KXssg/v-deo.html here's the link to enemy of the state. And you are correct. It is his made up language Vinnish.
I totally forgot about this! I know I have the CD. I think I got it as a promo. Thanks for mentioning this! : )
Yes, it's his artificial language indeed
I just sent this reaction to Johnny. Check out the video for this song also.
I hope he checks it out!
Did you know that Peter had band before Type0-, called Carnivore? They made two albums and it was faster, more hardcore/crossover/black sabbath type of thing, with very offensive lyrics :).. And you should also check Type0-'s first album, Slow, deep and hard... It is exactly like that! Maybe 'Unsuccessfully Coping with the Natural Beauty of Infidelity' from that one... Or even better idea, since they have a few interesting in-between songs, why don't start reacting to their full discography, from the beginning? That way you won't miss a thing...
9:00 It's a Type 'O'-sition ;)
YAY! You're still doing Type-O! Ummm...." Lauren's Song" by Breathe Carolina!!
The Crash - Lauren caught my eye
I was fortunate enough to have seen them perform at House of Blues in Las Vegas in 2007. This song is one of my favorites. I listen to it frequently. Forgive me for not knowing whom to give credit and not knowing the precise quote but I heard something recently that has stuck with me... 'The reason we listen to songs over and over when our heart is broken is because the part of the song that hurts us the most doesn't hurt us enough.' This is one of those songs for me and "Did it give you pleasure to steal my soul?" is that part of the song. Thank you for the music and rest in peace, Pete.
That was keyboards towards the end, not Peter's voice.
When I was a younger man in my mid twenties, I was desperately in love with a woman, we never had a chance. We were in the Army together, she was getting out, I was on my way to a different duty station far away. The line "keep in mind son, she was never there" resonates with me so much. Such a beautiful, sad song. Love your stuff. No, her name was not Elizabeth. Yes, I re-visit my favorites. Sue me.
He goes off in crazy Rasputin ranting in this song. It doesn't actually mean anything though.
old "Scandinavian"
If you do a “Life Is Killing Me” album review, i will give you a Peter Steele Autographed Album.
Love to hear people listening to this band. If you could, could you check out and react to 'Life is killing me'? That or maybe 'Everyone I love is dead'. Great songs!
Type o negative....these three things....:)
Best song of Type o neg 🖤🖤🖤
05:57 welcome to the club 😄
damn, just discovered you. thanks for your reactions. still devasteted by peters death. :/
Has anyone been able to find the translation for the German lyrics? I’ve wanted to know for years and never found anything on it.
It's fictional vinland language made by Peter
Those chants were Peter's own made up language. No one knows what it means as he never shared
woooohoooo more type o
Damn I really hope you get to In Praise Of Bacchus
Have you reacted to David Gilmour - high hoops, live in Pompeii 2016?
Probably the best Pink Floyd stuff I've ever heard.
We will know when Lauren becomes a true Type O fan when she realizes that they suck.
Even Peter himself said they suck, but like minded individuals know that is not true.
I live for those kind of lyrics also
Yes, that was bass at the end, not Peter
You should check out World Coming Down and songs from that album
Please go for "Haunted", you will like it
You probably won't like anything from the 1st 2 albums. Except Possibly Gravitational Constant. Everything else is left over Carnivore songs. They are gruesome shock songs.
“Misinterpretation of Silence and it’s disastrous consequences” is a solid on SDH
@@glenn9160 Sounds best on Vinyl.
My Nieces' name is Elizabeth. Does that count? 🤔🙄
There are no songs with my name.
I'm gonna stuff myself in a little box in the corner.
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Love your show, Lady L.
🤘😎🤘
Lauren, if you like Type O Negative, you should check the band My Dying Bride.....lots of anti valentine days in their catalog!
My real name is Polish, I can’t even find a keychain with my name on it. Count yourself lucky lol. Besides no one can say it based on reading it, I just answer to anything vaguely resembling my name and stopped trying to get’ Muricans to understand that other languages and pronunciation rules exist.
"Lauren" i dont know, but you can easily pretend "Laura" is "Lauren" in the Sing by fields of the nephilim...
No polish Pete has polish roots
Perfect song has Ville Valo, Peter Steele and Corey Taylor on vocals and that's how you destroy Lauren.
There are worse ways to go. :)
The chants are in Russian. He does also do them in German and Latin in Gregorian style. You'll really dig Nettie off of Life is Killing me.
Type O is a journey, every album is different and one of the many cool things about them is hearing that journey and maturation from hardcore/thrash shock rock into something wholly unique and beautiful. But you don't get one without the other.
Also, Pete referred to them or their style sometimes as "Stink Floyd." Fitting, imo. It's like smashing Floyd, Sabbath and the Beatles into some kind of steamroller of sound. Can't wait to see you do more of the greatest American rock band of my generation... Maybe ever....
I don´t know why but to me, this song is a goodbye.
But honestly… Rasputin - John Lennon, what’s the difference?
Joyride Chevelle
Might be Russian, Peter's Russian descent.
try to react to a perfect circle 3 libras song
I know that one. :D
React Elizabeth by Ghost
Polish?
Well, rather no😏
The "language" he is speaking there near the end is made up, it's Vinlandish. Peter designed the flag of Vinland and was quite the nerd about Vinland. Not saying that's a bad thing, it certainly isn't. This song is a beautiful masterpiece, perfect send off for the Green Man.
Please listen too Nettie and Life IS killing me