Ya, I think it will interesting if they add it to other systems for gaming/high performance. But seems too good to be true, is there limits or problems with this type of cooling?
Can't wait to see AirJet integrated in more and more systems especially in thin & light laptops and handhelds. That video is match made in heaven, gordon and mini PCs and AirJet :)
@PotatMasterRace ok thank you. Yes I neglected to think of spacecraft applications. Nevertheless my original comment had to do with this product by Frore itself as it was not long ago that the prototype was shown on this channel and now it is integrated into this mini pc-- the 1st of its kind. I guess that's not very novel then
@@ShoruKen what about no? If I want more power I can get a mini-PC already. If Pi5 needs more power and active cooling then what is the difference with any random mini-pc
I recall a YT with the inventor of the Air Jet not so long ago and was tickled to death about it as it is good to see an old concept (for me) come to life. Also seeing it become commercialized is very cool (pun) . I'm looking forward in seeing this being used in many other applications and become more powerful in cooling and effective to be used straight in top of CPU and GPU in the future. Following this with much interest. 😇🥰
that would add cost to the PC, I also think airjets work better when you can concentrate the heat into a small area, distributing the heat with a heatsink might be counter productive.
The problem is that that aluminium frame is already overstrained with that Celeron N6211. It clocks somewhere between 1.4 & 1.7 GHz from its 3.0 Ghz max clock at around 5 Watt from its 6.5 Watt TDP. The only way they could made that N300 work was by at least doubling the size of the heatsink. Which would add more cost and would defeat the purpose of the product in the first place. And No, two Airjets do not cost $100. The CPU is ~$309 alone vs. ~$64 for the Celeron N6211. Frore said it would only cost a bit more than an normal fan so I would guess they are not more than ~$10 maybe $15 a piece. So two would probably cost less as the custom heatsink of the PI 336 Pico...
This is one of Intel's lowest end CPUs, part of their low-power N-series. 8 cores is impressive, but it's all low-power efficiency cores. If it had a P-series chip or Ryzen U series then I'd be impressed, but we already have passively cooled mini PCs with the N305. It is cool that we can have fanless cooling in a smaller form factor though without big heatsink fins.
@@SirSethery The path to scaling these things up for high TDP processors is a long and arduous one, if at all possible. You've already seen them talking about incorporating up to 4 of them into devices, but that takes a prohibitive amount of space, massive heatsinks to accommodate all of them, and so on. I still think it's an amazing product overall, but scaling these past ~65W without blowing power budgets for cooling or space is going to need a lot of redesign and tweaking.
@Filipe Indeed. They're going to have to make some pretty significant changes to make it work. And one of its major purported benefits (noise) could be lost along the way as well.
Cool to see the technology already being used in products. Although the comparison in the video would have been a lot more interesting if the second system had regular passive cooling instead of just the active cooling being turned off.
I saw that airjet video sometime back. Now it is in production systems. It is great to see new technologies being made into production models more soon. Hope to see this become mainstream in the laptops.
I am sorry Gordon, but this "comparison" is flawed. The previous model used the entire case as a radiator, which can be quite effective (I have several fanless mini PCs I use for firewall appliances). Showing the same mini PC with one having the AirJet enabled vs the other off, doesn't tell me how the product eliminates the qualities of fanless systems or how much better it is compared to those fanless systems.
I’m also into fanless tech (been using a DB4 for years now) and was thinking the same. Though I can understand the decision, because the fanless enclosure was made for other (older) tech and they apparently don’t have the same enclosure for the newer one. But still, for a true comparison you should compare the same tech with the heatsink vs. the membrane cooler. And then a combination of both would also be interesting. The setup in the video with the cooler off was hopeless to begin with, because it has no meaningful way of dissipating heat. You only have a heat spreader to avoid the chip from immediately frying itself and that’s it.
Going off what's stated in the video its an intel i3 n300, which is a 7watt chip shouldn't be that hard to passively cool either same power envelope as high end phones/ tablets and a bit more than a Raspberry pi 4. A metal case with a single heat pipe/ vapour chamber should be enough. if it was the i3 n305 which is the same chip but 9-15watt then active cooling would be needed in something so small.
Perhaps a 3-4 layers linear stack can optimize it's performance. That could mean a complete change in heatsink\pipe designs for future chip cooling solutions.
Yeah, this product was big on the Steam Deck subreddit a couple months ago, after the CES launch. Not sure if anyone has actually got their hands on one and tried to put it in yet. My only concern is since it uses a vibrating membrane, would there be some level of noticeable vibration in the device? Something that would never be noticed on a NUC-like device with rubber feet could potentially be pretty annoying in a handheld.
Hey Gordon, I was a huge fan when you were the managing editor at MaximumPC and I'm really happy to see you at PCWorld. Keep Adam nervous with your test bench.... I love it!!
@dbsirius I can't to start seeing these thing pop up in laptops, maybe I might be able to boot up a game in a cafe without having the customers thinking a jet engine is about to take flight.
Would love it if LG could put a few of these into the new 17" LG Grams. These would keep the weight down while addressing the biggest drawback of the current model (big time CPU throttling).
you would have to stick those to the hard drives. Actually having a decent silent fan would be much cheaper, bur crappy fans are even cheaper and that's what Synology will choose
This seems best suited for systems that were previously passively cooled, could dramatically improve performance there. Although I think it would be most transformative for handheld gaming pcs, but those can reach tdps in the 50w range which seems beyond this systems capacity based on their press material
50W for a handheld is a non-starter. You get 100 Wh max allowed to be taken on airplanes, and at that point the battery is getting pretty heavy. 100 Wh / 50 W gives a battery life of only 2 hours.
nice to officially see these in a product. it would be cool if Airjet's could be sold as standalone products at some point, so hobbyists like me could play around with them.
I believe Dyson uses similiar miniature jets for their products such as fans, dryers etc. Some Dyson products are great some are experimental and over the top. AirBlade dryer is great for example. So this technology is known but nice to see it aplied to computer cooling. As a computer enthusiasist I'm always looking for a reason to upgrade.
Next Gen Handheld Gaming PCs like Steam Deck and it’s upcoming competition could benefit from these cooling chips. The steam deck gets pretty noisy when fan is full blast.
I'm not blaming Gordon for this trend, but E cores are atom cores. This should be selling point calling them atom cores, because those have been trusted to be efficient with power, I've even in some bios settings to call them by Atom cores. Now this Alderlake line has branded Atom chips, x7425E, x7213E, and x7211E so maybe there was a memo I missed passed out not to call them atom cores. But if you look at Ark Intel's site they are all the same spec minus the price point and efficiency per core. Now I'm an enthusiast in the mini PC area and I have 4 Up Boards (4 core Cherry Trail Atoms) in my desktop so I'm definitely a potential consumer, it just confuses me on why the branding for the E while not mentioning the A? Anyway thank you Gordon for this video I'm happy Zotac made this form factor again.
If this thing really works, it would be great for portable consoles and mobile phones. I'm still worried about those tiny intakes clogging up, I'm sure the filter alone will get dusty eventually.
Air jets could do wonders for pcie5.0 SSDs, VRMs, chipset heat sinks, and of course mini PCs or fanless laptops like the MacBook Air or whatever PC equivalent is coming. Nice to see new technology come to market. I wish them success in their endeavors. 😊
@@deadlock_ indeed! I want to see where the tech goes! Although with regard to hand held gaming, Microsoft needs to create a handheld gaming oriented OS. But I digress.
Tech like this would make the most sense on their iPads and entry level notebooks. But if they included active cooling on such products, how would they upsell users to the $1300 Macbook Pro?
Weird that if you take out the CPU and Air cooling power off of system power it is about 8,7 W passive cooled and 12,2 W active cooled. I guess there are also some power supply inefficiencies which are especially bad at lower wattage than on higher.
For mini-PCs that airjet seems to be alright, but i want to remind you, a typical 120mm fan, like the Noctua A12x25 also uses 1,2W...it needs much more space, but also moves much more air.
these would be great for new handheld consoles trend, if the price is ok, they are durable, and the manufacturers takes all its potential with the cooling design
I don't think the comparison in temperature should be on both systems with the AirJet with one on and the other off, it should be with an AirJet and a fan cooled version, to enable us see the changes in temp between both systems. I'm excited but how much improvement in cooling is it really?
Can these scale their performance and therefore power consumption like a fan or do they have a constant power consumption and performance when they are actively cooling? For example it would be a waste of power if they work like that while the processor is idle.
O just bought de Geekom IT13 miniPC . If this have already exist i would be build at max power and no restricted the CPU to 35W and with faster memory.
Can anyone ask Frore if they intend to allow these to be sold direct to consumer instead of only B2B? I would love to retrofit my existing tablet with these.
A bog standard 80mm fan is 1.44W. Laptop fans consume even less. These things probably won't be appearing in battery powered devices for a while, considering the higher power draw of the airjets and the subsequent higher power draw from the CPU/GPU.
I would say the system power is high due to the Furmark GPU power virus which isn't measured on CPU power. It is measured on GPU power. Also weird comparison, better off with Fans vs Airjets rather than Airjets on and off.
Kind of surprised it took so long for some manufacturer to develop something like this. There are so many approaches that could be used besides "spinning blades" ... so many possibilities from physics etc. E.g., immediately think things like peltier coolers, venturi effect, etc. In fairness, I personally hadn't thought about any of this, although I also don't work on cooling tech. Further, of course, I'm sure power requirements and other considerations probably make execution difficult enough, and fans are bloody simple and absolutely ubiquitous. Anyway, nice to see innovation like this - often enough, the first "proof of concept" spurs a heck of a lot more development in areas that have been ... neglected or avoided or etc. Hopefully will see lots more stuff like this soon!
Nice to see those airjet's in actual systems.
Agreed 👍 just now if we can see gpu utilization
a great xmas gift
@@christiancrow it's not gonna cool 400-500w, scale matters
Ya and he’s seemingly the only one smart enough to realize how cool this tech is. Don’t see anyone else covering it
@@Akkbar21 this is a great way to cool a phone, the lightest portable pcs in the world, and its even more reliable
Holy shit, an actual product now. Can't wait to see this being implemented in more other systems!
Samsung G9?
It's on a lame i3-N300 though. I'll be more excited when I see this on a cpu with performance cores like the i3-1315u/i3-1335u.
A phone and 4k 60+fps camera with this kind of active cooling would be actually pretty great, especially during the hot summer weather...
Ya, I think it will interesting if they add it to other systems for gaming/high performance. But seems too good to be true, is there limits or problems with this type of cooling?
@@cybernit3 At CES I think they said it could do 28w+ chips. Maybe 45w?. It can def handle more than this crappy i3-n300.
Can't wait to see AirJet integrated in more and more systems especially in thin & light laptops and handhelds. That video is match made in heaven, gordon and mini PCs and AirJet :)
The speed at which air jet came to market is quite impressive for new technology. Kudos
@PotatMasterRace well sure I can think of turbine blade air cooling from compressor bleed air sure but this vibrational membrane thing is quite novel
@PotatMasterRace ok thank you. Yes I neglected to think of spacecraft applications. Nevertheless my original comment had to do with this product by Frore itself as it was not long ago that the prototype was shown on this channel and now it is integrated into this mini pc-- the 1st of its kind. I guess that's not very novel then
Been following this tech with your previous videos. Amazing progress. Imagine this tech on a Pi. Exciting times
Absolutely new techs will be so slim and more powerful.
A pi can be passively cooled by a small heatsink what's the point of slapping this on it
@@marcogenovesi8570 Maybe for Pi5. Pi4 generates more heat than Pi3.
@@ShoruKen what about no? If I want more power I can get a mini-PC already. If Pi5 needs more power and active cooling then what is the difference with any random mini-pc
I recall a YT with the inventor of the Air Jet not so long ago and was tickled to death about it as it is good to see an old concept (for me) come to life. Also seeing it become commercialized is very cool (pun) . I'm looking forward in seeing this being used in many other applications and become more powerful in cooling and effective to be used straight in top of CPU and GPU in the future. Following this with much interest. 😇🥰
I think it would be nicer if they kept most of the old aluminum frame and pushed the power target a little bit higher.
Plastic case doesn't block wifi signal, but some hybrid design that allows for higher TDP would be neat.
that would add cost to the PC, I also think airjets work better when you can concentrate the heat into a small area, distributing the heat with a heatsink might be counter productive.
@@Bramble20322 no way 2 airjets cost $100
The problem is that that aluminium frame is already overstrained with that Celeron N6211. It clocks somewhere between 1.4 & 1.7 GHz from its 3.0 Ghz max clock at around 5 Watt from its 6.5 Watt TDP. The only way they could made that N300 work was by at least doubling the size of the heatsink. Which would add more cost and would defeat the purpose of the product in the first place.
And No, two Airjets do not cost $100. The CPU is ~$309 alone vs. ~$64 for the Celeron N6211. Frore said it would only cost a bit more than an normal fan so I would guess they are not more than ~$10 maybe $15 a piece. So two would probably cost less as the custom heatsink of the PI 336 Pico...
@@Bramble20322 How do you know the cost of airjet mini's ?
That is some serious power in a small package, super exciting to see.
It'll be really cool to see if a handheld like the ROG Ally could use one.
This is one of Intel's lowest end CPUs, part of their low-power N-series. 8 cores is impressive, but it's all low-power efficiency cores. If it had a P-series chip or Ryzen U series then I'd be impressed, but we already have passively cooled mini PCs with the N305. It is cool that we can have fanless cooling in a smaller form factor though without big heatsink fins.
@@SirSethery The path to scaling these things up for high TDP processors is a long and arduous one, if at all possible. You've already seen them talking about incorporating up to 4 of them into devices, but that takes a prohibitive amount of space, massive heatsinks to accommodate all of them, and so on. I still think it's an amazing product overall, but scaling these past ~65W without blowing power budgets for cooling or space is going to need a lot of redesign and tweaking.
@Filipe Indeed. They're going to have to make some pretty significant changes to make it work. And one of its major purported benefits (noise) could be lost along the way as well.
Those aren't made for high power devices. It's pretty much just mobile chips/smartphones where it will do brilliantly!
Cool to see the technology already being used in products. Although the comparison in the video would have been a lot more interesting if the second system had regular passive cooling instead of just the active cooling being turned off.
Yeah, "better than literally nothing" doesn't say a lot lmao
👍 That's why Gordon's the MVP.... he'll literally cook his ear for you!
I saw that airjet video sometime back. Now it is in production systems. It is great to see new technologies being made into production models more soon. Hope to see this become mainstream in the laptops.
I am sorry Gordon, but this "comparison" is flawed. The previous model used the entire case as a radiator, which can be quite effective (I have several fanless mini PCs I use for firewall appliances). Showing the same mini PC with one having the AirJet enabled vs the other off, doesn't tell me how the product eliminates the qualities of fanless systems or how much better it is compared to those fanless systems.
I’m also into fanless tech (been using a DB4 for years now) and was thinking the same. Though I can understand the decision, because the fanless enclosure was made for other (older) tech and they apparently don’t have the same enclosure for the newer one. But still, for a true comparison you should compare the same tech with the heatsink vs. the membrane cooler. And then a combination of both would also be interesting. The setup in the video with the cooler off was hopeless to begin with, because it has no meaningful way of dissipating heat. You only have a heat spreader to avoid the chip from immediately frying itself and that’s it.
Going off what's stated in the video its an intel i3 n300, which is a 7watt chip shouldn't be that hard to passively cool either same power envelope as high end phones/ tablets and a bit more than a Raspberry pi 4.
A metal case with a single heat pipe/ vapour chamber should be enough.
if it was the i3 n305 which is the same chip but 9-15watt then active cooling would be needed in something so small.
Perhaps a 3-4 layers linear stack can optimize it's performance. That could mean a complete change in heatsink\pipe designs for future chip cooling solutions.
Would be great for something like the steam deck, could use the saved space for a bigger battery
Yes! Or even smaller handhelds, I was excited for the Ayn Loki.
Yeah, this product was big on the Steam Deck subreddit a couple months ago, after the CES launch. Not sure if anyone has actually got their hands on one and tried to put it in yet. My only concern is since it uses a vibrating membrane, would there be some level of noticeable vibration in the device? Something that would never be noticed on a NUC-like device with rubber feet could potentially be pretty annoying in a handheld.
Except it is less efficient than standard fans, so it'd probably be a wash
@@Bramble20322 That's what I was referring to
Yes please thank God. I need more of this!!
Yeah, I need side-by-side with a unit that uses small fans and heatsinks. This does seem interesting but I def need to see way more thorough testing
fans would be MUCH louder
Just do some research.
I wonder how the steam deck and other handheld gaming devices would fair with solid state cooling
Hey Gordon, I was a huge fan when you were the managing editor at MaximumPC and I'm really happy to see you at PCWorld. Keep Adam nervous with your test bench.... I love it!!
10°c difference doesn’t seem a lot; however, we have to remember that happening while being completely silent, which is kinda crazy.
Also it's super thin which is an additional plus
@dbsirius I can't to start seeing these thing pop up in laptops, maybe I might be able to boot up a game in a cafe without having the customers thinking a jet engine is about to take flight.
10 degrees C without throttling, it's basically allowing it to run at double the package power.
it is a lot if you are measuring the enclosure... that is probably 25+ C on the CPU
Also it's getting rid of the heat from double the power usage, and still being cooler.
Excellent coverage of this technology. I enjoyed watching your other videos on this and really excited to see more computers take advantage of this.
Would love it if LG could put a few of these into the new 17" LG Grams. These would keep the weight down while addressing the biggest drawback of the current model (big time CPU throttling).
20 seconds in and I am excited to see advanced tech growing cheap enough to become a friend to the CPU :)
The joys of copper AND airflow ;)
Would be interesting to see this on more powerful mini-PCs like those made by minisforum and how it would perform.
I love you keeping an eye on this cooling development
I'd love to see this AirJet system inside Synology NAS's and such... wonder how much more performance we could get with less fan noise.
you would have to stick those to the hard drives. Actually having a decent silent fan would be much cheaper, bur crappy fans are even cheaper and that's what Synology will choose
Really looking forward to see this on small desktop performence pc's
Super cool! Will it be sold with a clear case option like the example in the video? If so that would be awesome
Finally this thing is real. I remember IBM demoing this tech 13 years ago.
Thank you Gordon for your Air Jet follow up! =)
Hope framework adds this for near quiet system and repairable laptop
Now we are talking
I'd want to see this on a steam deck, specifically mine :)
2.4W is quite a bummer though. Hope they get more efficient.
@PotatMasterRace AirJet off = 0W for cooling. AirJet on = 2.4W for cooling
This seems best suited for systems that were previously passively cooled, could dramatically improve performance there. Although I think it would be most transformative for handheld gaming pcs, but those can reach tdps in the 50w range which seems beyond this systems capacity based on their press material
50W for a handheld is a non-starter. You get 100 Wh max allowed to be taken on airplanes, and at that point the battery is getting pretty heavy. 100 Wh / 50 W gives a battery life of only 2 hours.
I'm glad that these airjet's are actual things and not some kind of overhyped vaporware. Hopefully we see M.2 drives with these soon.
Airjet + steam deck would be damn amazing and also lighter
nice to officially see these in a product.
it would be cool if Airjet's could be sold as standalone products at some point, so hobbyists like me could play around with them.
This is amazing, can't wait for the airjets to go fully commercial
I believe Dyson uses similiar miniature jets for their products such as fans, dryers etc. Some Dyson products are great some are experimental and over the top. AirBlade dryer is great for example.
So this technology is known but nice to see it aplied to computer cooling.
As a computer enthusiasist I'm always looking for a reason to upgrade.
Was just looking into this! Nice!
Next Gen Handheld Gaming PCs like Steam Deck and it’s upcoming competition could benefit from these cooling chips. The steam deck gets pretty noisy when fan is full blast.
I wanna see what kind of cooling you could get in a Heat pipe Sandwich( 2 on top and bottom with heat pipes in-between) configuration.
Put them in groups on a copper plate on desktop cpu and gpu
Hope this go to handhed gaming PC. Hope the tech gets more mainstream.
cant wait to see it on desktop cpu\gpu systems
I'm not blaming Gordon for this trend, but E cores are atom cores. This should be selling point calling them atom cores, because those have been trusted to be efficient with power, I've even in some bios settings to call them by Atom cores. Now this Alderlake line has branded Atom chips, x7425E, x7213E, and x7211E so maybe there was a memo I missed passed out not to call them atom cores. But if you look at Ark Intel's site they are all the same spec minus the price point and efficiency per core. Now I'm an enthusiast in the mini PC area and I have 4 Up Boards (4 core Cherry Trail Atoms) in my desktop so I'm definitely a potential consumer, it just confuses me on why the branding for the E while not mentioning the A? Anyway thank you Gordon for this video I'm happy Zotac made this form factor again.
very cool product. i look forward this product becoming the standard in the near future.
Price are correct for a new revolutionnary product on the market, can't wait to see where it's going !
I wish those new AirJet can be in the PC Tablets. and In Framewwork Laptop 13 and 16.
If this thing really works, it would be great for portable consoles and mobile phones. I'm still worried about those tiny intakes clogging up, I'm sure the filter alone will get dusty eventually.
Air jets could do wonders for pcie5.0 SSDs, VRMs, chipset heat sinks, and of course mini PCs or fanless laptops like the MacBook Air or whatever PC equivalent is coming.
Nice to see new technology come to market. I wish them success in their endeavors. 😊
Handhelds PCs the likes of Steam Deck and smartphones too. This tech has endless potential and it's so exciting to see it in use in actual products.
@@deadlock_ indeed! I want to see where the tech goes! Although with regard to hand held gaming, Microsoft needs to create a handheld gaming oriented OS. But I digress.
Hi, will AirJet be available for Raspberry Pi 5 ??
This would be amazing to have this chip cooling RP5 😁👍
I'm surprised Apple hasn't aquired AirJet for like 10 billion dollars, and making themselves exclusive with this tech
I'm glad they haven't
If Steve is still with us, what you said may have been the reality.
Tech like this would make the most sense on their iPads and entry level notebooks. But if they included active cooling on such products, how would they upsell users to the $1300 Macbook Pro?
Nah they need the heat to cause failures sooner
@@rustyclark2356 the same way they rebranded and claimed to have invented everything else
Is the membrane motion ultrasonic? Can dogs hear it?
Weird that if you take out the CPU and Air cooling power off of system power it is about 8,7 W passive cooled and 12,2 W active cooled. I guess there are also some power supply inefficiencies which are especially bad at lower wattage than on higher.
This should become the standard cooling on smartphones.
For mini-PCs that airjet seems to be alright, but i want to remind you, a typical 120mm fan, like the Noctua A12x25 also uses 1,2W...it needs much more space, but also moves much more air.
Looking forward to the AirJet reaching mass production
finally they shipped one. now when fan for handheld console is coming out?
these would be great for new handheld consoles trend, if the price is ok, they are durable, and the manufacturers takes all its potential with the cooling design
I don't think the comparison in temperature should be on both systems with the AirJet with one on and the other off, it should be with an AirJet and a fan cooled version, to enable us see the changes in temp between both systems. I'm excited but how much improvement in cooling is it really?
If you made that transparent top cover out of aluminum heatsink you can dissipate 5-7w power easily, without itself using up even more power.
Looks cool, the only issue I hope it doesn't get wrong over time is dust.
7940HS needs this
Damn! I think this will be great for handheld systems!
Wow, the "Bionic" reference is 50 years old. Consequences.
My next mini PC's gotta have this tech
How much does it cost? Not heard anything about the price of airjet from your videos? Or how much cost does it add?
waiting can implement in phone/tablet or many mini things
Can these scale their performance and therefore power consumption like a fan or do they have a constant power consumption and performance when they are actively cooling? For example it would be a waste of power if they work like that while the processor is idle.
O just bought de Geekom IT13 miniPC . If this have already exist i would be build at max power and no restricted the CPU to 35W and with faster memory.
No news for latest 2-3 months. I have big hopes on this tech. We need in mass production cooling systems.
this would be very useful in VR headset given the size, computing, weight and the size limitation in such a system
I think I like the aluminum one better. Show me the same spec circuits with both cooling options with performance tests.
Want to see a Steam Deck slim using Airjet.
i remember thinking this wouldnt make it to market a few years ago but cool.
"That hurts because it's so hot"
*Remains with his ear on the thing*
Everything for Science!! hahah
It will be interesting to see if Frore can scale this up,beyond its mobile applications ❤
Can't wait to see it on consoles ps5 pro and xbox ❤
How does the power usage compare to traditional fan setup?
Pretty exciting air cooling devices.
a graph representation of temperature or performance would be great
NVME Gen5 drives next?
I am wondering how to clean the dust on the dust filter of the Airjet.
Intel could use the AirJet in their future NUC mini-PCs and laptops.
Can anyone ask Frore if they intend to allow these to be sold direct to consumer instead of only B2B? I would love to retrofit my existing tablet with these.
A bog standard 80mm fan is 1.44W. Laptop fans consume even less. These things probably won't be appearing in battery powered devices for a while, considering the higher power draw of the airjets and the subsequent higher power draw from the CPU/GPU.
I'm waiting for this to come to consumer products.. finally
This would be interesting for new vr headsets
you can buy it now. I'll wait until it's installed on an i7 or i9 pc. More power.
I watched the guys that developed that cooling system... I was wondering when it would surface in a package.
This is kinda epic!
impressive technology.
I would say the system power is high due to the Furmark GPU power virus which isn't measured on CPU power. It is measured on GPU power.
Also weird comparison, better off with Fans vs Airjets rather than Airjets on and off.
Kind of surprised it took so long for some manufacturer to develop something like this. There are so many approaches that could be used besides "spinning blades" ... so many possibilities from physics etc. E.g., immediately think things like peltier coolers, venturi effect, etc.
In fairness, I personally hadn't thought about any of this, although I also don't work on cooling tech. Further, of course, I'm sure power requirements and other considerations probably make execution difficult enough, and fans are bloody simple and absolutely ubiquitous.
Anyway, nice to see innovation like this - often enough, the first "proof of concept" spurs a heck of a lot more development in areas that have been ... neglected or avoided or etc. Hopefully will see lots more stuff like this soon!
what's that test software?
Soon in smartphones?
2:50 Don't you mean eMMC?
more interesting in the performance... as long as it is silent then I don't need to know more about the AJ...
Would be great to have Airjets in the Nintendo Switch 2.
The dust will be a problem
Its just a membrane. If it gets stuck it stops moving. Unlike fans they still spin even if it’s dusted
Dust won't be a problem they tested the airjets in a chamber filled with dust. They designed it for 5yrs with less than 5% performance degradation.
This thing on the steam deck would be insane. The fans on that thing is too loud
That's what the steam deck need.
it would need at least double, since this was cooling 7 watts, and the deck can go beyond 15w
Like 3,.