So like STUMPED as in the land is covered in stumps, but Jack leaves them stumped, because he leaves them CONFUSED, and to stump someone is to confuse them
The "if you could go over their heads why can't I?" was such an underrated line that I wish was expanded on a bit more in the battle, because Illumination (and by extension, most who saw their adaptation) entirely missed the original point of the Once-ler: A nameless, faceless figure both meant as a cautionary tale (anyone could become him) but also an illustration of how large corporations eventually become nameless and faceless entities that can't be reasoned with like an actual person. It undermines a story that was largely supposed to comment on the system itself and turns it into a tale about individual bad actors (we just need to deal with them, and then everything will be completely fine! Yay); the irony of such a large corporation doing that is certainly not lost on me. Also, the "mere dust and a plaque by its side, unless..." refers to the stone plaque left behind at the end of The Lorax that simply says the word "Unless" on its front, based on one of the story's main messages: Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better, it's not.
"mere dust and a plauge" is also a reference to "poor jack" my favorite song of all time where jack reflects on his actions (what have i done, what i have done, find a deep cave to hide in, in a million years they'll find me, only dust and plauge, that reads here lies poor old jack)
11:15 The Onceler used in this rap battle was the one from the Illumination Lorax movie, which was mainly famous for completely missing the entire point of the original book’s environmental message of everyone having to do their part to take care of the environment. The message of the book completely went over studio exec’s and somewhat over the writers’ heads, as they made the Onceler into the twink he is in the movie rather than the analogy of them literally being anyone who falls into a trap of chasing profits and short term happiness over taking care of the wider world cautioning the younger generation to take care of the planet lest it falls further into ruin. That also connects to the next few verses. Jack had been the Lorax in terms of messaging underneath his battle raps, warning the Onceler to change his ways. That’s why I give it to Jack tbh TLDR: if the message of the books could go over the movie makers’ heads, why can’t Jack?
10:51 is actually a dig at illumination, the studio behind the lorax movie, because one of the main criticisms that movie received was the dumbing down of the message of the book and funnily enough using the lorax to promote environmentally unfriendly brands
It's a little specific but I think 11:40 this is specifically talking about how in the book there is no good ending or recovery (compared to the movie but seuss didn't make it so).
13:23 the name dr Seuss as in a actual doctor and sickness while maybe a hit at dr Seuss didn’t really fix up the series after the many flaws the movie had to mend
This is one of my fave battles, all the hype for the hypetastic Onceler verse well deserved, rad vid as always!!!! Also I couldn't figure out the Oogie Shadows were meant to look like the Lorax at that point, so thanks for helping me realise that The stumped and fantastic "over their heads" lines have already been explained, but I'll just mention a fun lil more minor piece of wordplay. Onceler specifically using the "Sandy Claws" nickname, because he then says "through your fingers" for the punchline. Claws/Fingers
Okay I’m pretty sure that’s a reference to when he killed the security guard and it was too late to save his family from execution but also because part of his family hates him And also there’s a reference to when 1,000 clones of him was made out of him and he was forced to kill, afterwards being traumatized There’s another reference to when he got tricked into blowing up his own house because of the clown that manipulated him Lastly there’s a reference to when he got kicked out of the restaurant when he brought a gun to it
THX FOR REACTING TO THAT VID!!!!BRO I ALWAYS LIVE YOUR VIDEOS YOU MAKE MY DAY BETTER!!!!!Also can you react to seam vs Ragatha from Gamming plush and Rambely vs Kinto? Cause you missed those battles
Man these is one of the closest battles they've ever made recently, Jack attacking Once-ler for his greed and blindful following of his parents, but then the Once-ler does what I call the "8 Mile strat" where he owns his stance while simultaneously calling out Jack for being a hypocrite into one of the best ending verses in this entire channel. Snakebite you absolute legend, this is an insane battle.
Biggering was the song that was supposed to be the Once-ler's theme, but was changed to "How Bad can I possibly be?", in the books, we never see the Once-ler's face, as Dr. Seuss wanted to use him kind of like a archetype of a greedy businessman/company, with no face.
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Oncler won, the bar about going over their heads is because the Oncler was a villain that was based off of extreme greed and big shallow corporation. And the movie industry is notoriously greedy. So the villain was a representation of the industry themselves. So it went over there head that they were parodying themselves. Also “Biggering” was the song that was supposed to be his villain song, but it was replaced by how bad can I be. Because it was deemed to realistic and dark.
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So like STUMPED as in the land is covered in stumps, but Jack leaves them stumped, because he leaves them CONFUSED, and to stump someone is to confuse them
Yo you just make these battles 10x better. I love your hype and you explain the lines in the battles. Keep up the work Josiah
Also congrats on 15k 🤗
The "if you could go over their heads why can't I?" was such an underrated line that I wish was expanded on a bit more in the battle, because Illumination (and by extension, most who saw their adaptation) entirely missed the original point of the Once-ler: A nameless, faceless figure both meant as a cautionary tale (anyone could become him) but also an illustration of how large corporations eventually become nameless and faceless entities that can't be reasoned with like an actual person. It undermines a story that was largely supposed to comment on the system itself and turns it into a tale about individual bad actors (we just need to deal with them, and then everything will be completely fine! Yay); the irony of such a large corporation doing that is certainly not lost on me.
Also, the "mere dust and a plaque by its side, unless..." refers to the stone plaque left behind at the end of The Lorax that simply says the word "Unless" on its front, based on one of the story's main messages: Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better, it's not.
"mere dust and a plauge" is also a reference to "poor jack" my favorite song of all time where jack reflects on his actions
(what have i done, what i have done, find a deep cave to hide in, in a million years they'll find me, only dust and plauge, that reads here lies poor old jack)
@MAKSUDTAGHIYEV right, thank you for reminding me about that
@Marshall.R 👍
Bro thanks for the context!
11:15 The Onceler used in this rap battle was the one from the Illumination Lorax movie, which was mainly famous for completely missing the entire point of the original book’s environmental message of everyone having to do their part to take care of the environment. The message of the book completely went over studio exec’s and somewhat over the writers’ heads, as they made the Onceler into the twink he is in the movie rather than the analogy of them literally being anyone who falls into a trap of chasing profits and short term happiness over taking care of the wider world cautioning the younger generation to take care of the planet lest it falls further into ruin. That also connects to the next few verses. Jack had been the Lorax in terms of messaging underneath his battle raps, warning the Onceler to change his ways. That’s why I give it to Jack tbh
TLDR: if the message of the books could go over the movie makers’ heads, why can’t Jack?
10:51 is actually a dig at illumination, the studio behind the lorax movie, because one of the main criticisms that movie received was the dumbing down of the message of the book and funnily enough using the lorax to promote environmentally unfriendly brands
7:40 Jack confused the whole land, so he said stumped. Since The Once-ler chops down trees, he stumps the land.
Josiah: THE ONCE-LER WON
The Votes on Freshy's Community Post: I'm about to ruin this man's whole career
I dont think polls are important, its about the opinion
If he said once-ler won, its his opinion he doesnt care about polls
It's a little specific but I think 11:40 this is specifically talking about how in the book there is no good ending or recovery (compared to the movie but seuss didn't make it so).
DUDE, YOU HAVE TO DO THE TMNT VS THE GHOST BUSTERS!!! IT'S A LIT ONE!
13:23 the name dr Seuss as in a actual doctor and sickness while maybe a hit at dr Seuss didn’t really fix up the series after the many flaws the movie had to mend
11:50 It's because he's "Dr." Seuss, he's a doctor, but he can't treat the sickness.
This is one of my fave battles, all the hype for the hypetastic Onceler verse well deserved, rad vid as always!!!! Also I couldn't figure out the Oogie Shadows were meant to look like the Lorax at that point, so thanks for helping me realise that
The stumped and fantastic "over their heads" lines have already been explained, but I'll just mention a fun lil more minor piece of wordplay. Onceler specifically using the "Sandy Claws" nickname, because he then says "through your fingers" for the punchline. Claws/Fingers
Your reactions are always great, it fills me with so much joy 😁
I would like to see bowser vrs ice king from central rap battles
As well as Dimentio vrs plague knight.
Josiah, you should reaction to purple guy vs alphas rap battle. It was absolute HEAT when I listened to it
I love the emotion you have during your videos! I watch only your reaction videos because I want to go crazy about the video with you lol
I’m honored, thank you for this comment 😃
Fr the other reaction channels are boring compared to Josiah
Okay I’m pretty sure that’s a reference to when he killed the security guard and it was too late to save his family from execution but also because part of his family hates him
And also there’s a reference to when 1,000 clones of him was made out of him and he was forced to kill, afterwards being traumatized
There’s another reference to when he got tricked into blowing up his own house because of the clown that manipulated him
Lastly there’s a reference to when he got kicked out of the restaurant when he brought a gun to it
The Lorax (1971) and it's movie adaptation (2012) if it was evil and fucked up
" This Fossil Could Power my factories " Me: 😮😮
12:03 unless is on the stone the lorax left the onceler when he chopped down all the truffula trees.
THX FOR REACTING TO THAT VID!!!!BRO I ALWAYS LIVE YOUR VIDEOS YOU MAKE MY DAY BETTER!!!!!Also can you react to seam vs Ragatha from Gamming plush and Rambely vs
Kinto? Cause you missed those battles
Nah bro he needs to do Plague Knight vs Dimentio by Shimario and Fall Guys vs Among Us Death Battle
Dang I don’t think he’s gonna do rambler vs kinito. He did a reaction to it but the audio didn’t record😢
He did do Rambley vs Kinto but the audio wasn't recorded. ~~didnt notice your reply lol~~
13:34 This line comes from a unused Lorax song called "Biggering" btw
Tmnt vs. Ghostbusters next
@TheRealAsh-Bash Fr I can't wait for that
And pikmin and lethal company
Man these is one of the closest battles they've ever made recently, Jack attacking Once-ler for his greed and blindful following of his parents, but then the Once-ler does what I call the "8 Mile strat" where he owns his stance while simultaneously calling out Jack for being a hypocrite into one of the best ending verses in this entire channel. Snakebite you absolute legend, this is an insane battle.
Biggering was the song that was supposed to be the Once-ler's theme, but was changed to "How Bad can I possibly be?", in the books, we never see the Once-ler's face, as Dr. Seuss wanted to use him kind of like a archetype of a greedy businessman/company, with no face.
This feels like a tribute to me🥹
I always love your videos! I swear, you’re my new favorite UA-camr! I just smile every time I see the notification that you posted!❤ keep up the great work!
Priceless reaction 😂
Let’s gooooooo
Tmnt vs ghostbusters
Amazing reaction. Check out TMNT vs Ghostbusters and Lethal Company vs Pikmin next
Pls react to tmnt vs gosht buster
Spelled it wrong my bad
Tmnt vs. Ghostbusters is amazing, music, animation and references, hope this is next
He is back
Pretty sure the go over your head is a call back to illumination ignoring the message of the Lorax by making a comeratal about a car
So amazing
you comment on every video and i respect that, W viewer
@SonicExe-The-Disaster-Player Thanks
This beat is going stupid asf🔥
Ik jack has better disses, but the oncler’s last verse went so hard
God I missed this
Jack won it for me! His verses were fire and very... Persuasive in a nice way, y'know? 🔥🔥🔥
you should react to berdly vs duck by gamingplush64
W’s in the chat
This was great! Are you going to do tmnt v ghostbusters and pikmin v lethal company?
Do suicide mouse vs squidward
Please watch TMNT Vs Ghostbusters, (Also Dimentio Vs Plague Knight would be cool)
do Plague Knight vs Dimentio by Shimario and Fall Guys vs Among Us Death Battle PLEASE. THOSE 2 ARE SO GOOD
Josh you need to watch TMNT vs ghostbusters they both go crazy! Pikmin vs lethal company is also great so pick whatever you want to do next!
The next battle should be baldi vs miss circle,
Sonic.exe vs. Red from Godzilla NSES. Such a great rap
Can you react to the 001 vs 001 Ill nam vs Vecna from fresh Kanal?
Bowser vs Ice King next, Dustin is in That one
Agreed
Could you do plague knight vs dimentio next by shimario please and thank you
You gotta watch tmnt vs ghostbusters
Best person on the planet? Don't mind if I do.
you should react to ninja vs jeffy by powerofdan rap battles, wonderful reaction as always!
BRO REACT TO CAM STEADY BUT MAINLY THE PSEUDO LEGENDARY RAP!!!!!
SOMEONE WHO AGREES THAT ONCE-LER WON?
day 2 of asking for susie vs yuri💔
Day 2 for asking Beetlejuice vs Bitzo. (You don't have to)
Can you react to Ghostbusters vs tmnt
react to stewie griffin vs bluey please!
PLZZZZZZZ TMNT vs ghostbusters
1 hour ago lol
Tmnt vs ghost busters
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Ngl Jack bodied him
I suggest that you should react to mr jay:Brian griffin vs Bandit heeler
Oncler won, the bar about going over their heads is because the Oncler was a villain that was based off of extreme greed and big shallow corporation. And the movie industry is notoriously greedy. So the villain was a representation of the industry themselves. So it went over there head that they were parodying themselves. Also “Biggering” was the song that was supposed to be his villain song, but it was replaced by how bad can I be. Because it was deemed to realistic and dark.
Ninja vs Jeffy next
He is back
Jack won it for me! His verses were fire and very... Persuasive in a nice way, y'know? 🔥🔥🔥