They’re both trash but Amber using someone else’s addiction as “tea” was really shocking… especially with her past and her own self proclaimed food addiction
They’re two different types. Destiny has her issues but she hasn’t left a rampage of hell and trauma behind her. Amber’s slug trail follows every which way. Destiny is ignorant but strikes me as someone who genuinely cares for those in her life that she loves. Her ignorant and racist jokes are sadly a common thing with more rural spots. It shocked me how many ACTUAL racists I met in the marines. On the bright side we didn’t get penalized for punching someone’s lights out for it so 🤧🤡
it speaks volumes. im not even shocked but i am disappointed. shes always talked abt drug addiction like its some how lesser than food addiction. like its not as difficult to quit, like its even comparable... it makes me so mad cuz im a drug addict and it really hits a nerve. like being an addict is my fucking life, its not drama in the slightest. i cant even articulate how much it hurts to hear her treat addiction like its some mark against a persons character, like its something to shame ppl for? that doesnt help anyone and she should know that since she herself compares food addiction to drug addiction. i dont think its a fair comparison but it baffles me how she can then turn around and act like shes any better than us... i cant even, im really at my wits end with amber
I'm still shocked Amberlynn really said "my mentall illness makes me manipulate people" with her whole chest. She really said it like it's an excuse or something. She needs help it's shocking how delusional she is🫣
it's wild because there's a pause before she says it where you would think she's having a moment of reflection and then nope just makes a big ol' excuse
Same here I honestly don't care what people say or think about me because most of the time they have done so much terrible crap themselves that it's laughable 😂
i only watched the pieces that are in other videos, but i do think it's insane that amber talked for probably over an hour while destiny just interjected here and there. how sad is your life that you're watching your ex from 7 years ago livestream, calling her and talking non stop for an hour while she just listens and makes money off of you making yourself look like an abusive idiot...
Literally it was so funny when she indirectly told Amberlynn she was live. Cuz like Amberlynn was complaining about a reaction channel clipping what she says and twisting it to fit her narrative and Destiny was just like “well she’s gunna have a field day with this one” SO FUNNY
I haven't seen the whole thing but my favorite clip so far was Amber asking/suggesting to Destiny that she should give Amber half her money from the livestream.
Amberlynn has always been a gigantic bully in my eyes, using threats and money to get people to do what she wants. Her having 'tea' to spill is laughable because the most damaging 'tea' consists of stories about Amberlynn's behavior. Amberlynn is a bully and she just proved it here in these streams with Destiny,
I think that’s what makes me cackle the most, destiny isn’t a great person obviously but the fact she literally couldn’t care less is SO FUNNY to me absolutely impervious to amberlyns bull hahahahaha it’s so so funny
This phone call reminded me of a middle school fight with your best friend where you have to keep reminding yourself you’re mad at them even though you slick wanna be friends again
life gets so much easier once you mature enough to the point that you cut toxicity out of your life and avoid people who put up with drama or instigate.
I literally was just picturing the scene in Talladega nights when he’s on the phone with Cal and keeps getting sucked back in 😂 I’ve watched that movie so much recently because things keep reminding me of it Lmfao
Amber Lynn is completely toxic there's a reason why faline wants no part of Amber Lynn's streams it's because she's learning how many people she has wronged and doesn't want her name associated with Amber's 😂 she's well aware by now of Amber's horrible reputation 😢
It is truly mindboggling to me how Amber has established that Destiny is a cheater, money-hungry, and the worst, who would say anything about her for Internet points, and yet answers her phone calls and spends over an hour on the phone with her while Destiny was on live getting superchats and what not. Literally it all could have been avoided had you just ignored a call from your toxic ex. Amber just loved to hear herself talk and is obsessed with getting every single word in.
i really think she was actually quite happy to be talking to destiny, sometimes she was pissed yes but most of the time her voice literally told on her lol and like you said. you wouldn‘t usually stay on the phone with someone you supposedly hate for so long, especially talking to each other the way they have? it sounded like teenaged ex friends who are in a fight but actually want to spend time witj each other lol
Never have I anxiously awaited a Zachary Michael video like I did this one. ManipulativeLynn was out in full force this weekend and I can't wait to hear what Zach has to say. I officially can no longer find my sympathy bone for this woman.
She stayed on that call SO LONG. I wouldn't even pick up for an ex, let alone talk to them for an hour and let them basically interview me about personal stuff like my surgery journey or my current partner.
Isn't Pookie's brother in prison on drug charges? What difference does it make if Destiny's brother has addiction problems? Neither brother is a cast member, so... Pookie? You are an energy vampire and a classic narcissistic gaslighter.
ALR's whole family is made up of drug addicts who have done/are still doing time. no shade, that's the reality. she just got addicted to food instead, and acting like she's better than drug addicts is weird
Right?! And the fact that Amber offered her therapist's number. That would be unethical and a conflict of interest for the therapist. She just doesn't think.
Isn't it weird amber even talked to destiny? Like she tried to seem so high and mighty and done with the drama and yet she talked to her for an hour joking around even? And being somewhat cordial at times, answering questions, like what??? How is that mature or genuine???!
if we want to talk about acting mature with ex-partners destiny should ask ALR why she forces all her ex-girlfriends to sleep in her bed after they've broken up
i just cannot get over how… seamlessly amber uses manipulation tactics. the act of saying “i’m not that kind of person” does not negate your own actions. “my mental illness makes me manipulate” just makes me feel sick as someone who has mental illness. even if that was true, what therapist would ever tell you to say that?? they wouldn’t - she’s just making excuses for herself
Actually, manipulation can be due to some mental illnesses. That being said, it will NEVER justify the negative impact it has on others. In therapy, we encourage people to take accountability for the things they did when they didn't know better. Sadly, Amber is using something that causes pain to a lot of people as an excuse
to me, it was representative of the fact, Amber is fully aware of her tactics and is using mental illness as the catch-net excuse to avoid accountability. It was not delusion because delusion is believing a fake visage and her capacity to articulate the reason she manipulates was a very conscious statement that she thought would be to her benefit. Her delusion is thinking she is smarter than the other people in the room (hugs to you and hope you are finding ways to cope)
@@anamorel2634 yeah that’s my thing. mental illness can cause a person to behave that way but i have never met a therapist that has ever encouraged their client to address their mental illness in that matter. a good patient recognizes that and address and APOLOGIZES for it, not use it as a deflection tactic. it’s honestly sickening :/
I saw someone else point this out and it made 100% sense with what we’ve seen / heard of Amber and her relationships with all of her girlfriends mom. Personally, I have never NOT gotten along with my partners parents. I know bad relationships like this obviously do exist for people at some point but in my 40 years on earth and in many various relationships / friendships over time, I have never fought, disrespected or even argued with a parent of my partner. Whether I always liked or agreed with them or not. The fact that Amber has at some point had a horrible relationship and drama with EVERY SINGLE one of them speaks absolute volumes.
@LaurenWoz421 yeah I had problems with my ex husband's parents because they had his girlfriend over for dinner while I was literally in acoma. I never said anything to them though, that's crazy. I was raised to respect my elders, so i dont talk to elders the way she does. I cant imagine hating my partners parents and talking to them the way amberlynn talked to Becky's mom and im sure Destiny's mom too.
Amber 1,000% was watching Destiny and knew the whole time that Destiny was live while on the phone. Amber used the excuse that she “didn’t know” in order to say what she wanted thinking she’d be excused
Also, I didn’t watch Destiny’s streams, so I don’t know if this is relevant or not, but one of the criminal charges Amberlynn’s mother faced (and iirc was convicted of) was assault on a service dog. So Amberlynn saying that Destiny was a terrible person because Dana’s father put down the dog that Destiny and Dana shared was super hypocritical as usual. Not that I think Destiny, Dana, or Dana’s dad made good moral choices in the situation with that dog, because I don’t, but the way Amberlynn sensationalized it was gross.
She looks down her nose at addicts that aren't herself or someone she loves. It's very weird. Like yes, I get that her parents addiction stole a lot from her as a child, but instead of being upset with her parents she holds a negative option of other people who have substance use issues. As the child of a deceased addict, I really just don't get it. I have sympathy for her as a food addict, but she wouldn't have had sympathy for my dad. Very weird to me.
I feel like what alr severely fails to realize is that mental illness is an EXPLANATION for aggression/manipulation/etc, not an excuse or justification. You can't just be an abusive asshole to people for years because you also have mental illness. I've been through the wringer w depression/anxiety but if I ever treat others bad bc of what I'm going through I make sure to own up and apologize. The impact still happened regardless Neurodivergence can be debilitating, but certainly not a reason to treat everyone like shit.
💯💯💯 I have cptsd, and I have been manipulative and abusive in my past - it's an explanation, it doesn't absolve me of my wrongdoings. It's also fully my responsibility to make amends and NOT repeat that behavior.
yeah and i hate how shes making it seem like mental illness = violence and manipulation. she uses her disorders as an excuse instead of taking any accountability for her actions. she makes everyone else with a mental illness look bad by association
Oh, I think that is great that you apologize but then that also becomes like a little game and you treat people like crap and then you apologize and like can’t keep doing the same thing and I’m not saying that you were doing it but some people do that crap
Right!? When someone is going through a psychotic break and shoves someone into the train tracks no one goes "oh, they're clearly suffering so of course they'll act out and take it out on others." Yes you lose control of yourself or have behaviors you aren't conscious of with mental health issues (for example my active listening taking effort and concentration more than average) but that doesn't make the wrong action right. Ignoring half of someone's story because I'm not realizing that I stopped listening still makes me the asshole in the situation.
Amber does see things in black and white. She sees things as pro or anti Amber and that's all that matters. Her saying she doesn't see black and white is just her saying she will switch up her stance as suits her needs. Ultimate spineless hypocrite.
Everything Amber says in this is emotional abuse 101. She's hitting every single bullet point. It makes me so uncomfortable. But, Destiny is doing AMAZINGLY not letting her see it get to her, so bravo in that respect.
Destiny is not easily rattled and is good at at least appearing like she doesn't give a fuck and I feel like this has been what's kept Amber hung up on her, it KILLS Amber that she can't get to her like she did with say, Becky. She's never been able to control Destiny.
That's because destiny can't be bothered by trivial crap when she's the one with the most intimate damaging to Amber's reputation information but at this point amber doesn't have much of a career anyways 😂
You can tell in her tone, that she stayed on the phone and was sort of.. cutesy, I could tell she was trying to backtrack on her personality reveal. It was awkward and sad, anyone who has to say I'm not that person 800 times, IS that person
@@katarzynarawska9999in my opinion it is more of a false sense of connection that destiny tries to give Amber, because destiny knows just how much power she holds over ambers emotions and she really really enjoys winding her up because she knows how to hit exactly where she wants bc she knows her so well
@@katarzynarawska9999Could be trauma bonding? Abusive relationships aren't easy to move on from, from what I've heard and seen. Not that I'm any kind of professional there.
My biggest takeaway from it all (besides how shitty she is for using Destiny’s family as “tea”) is that we can expect her to not get WLS and that she’s probably going to blame it on her lungs. Which is exactly what I predicted 😅 Edit: your comment at the end about Kentucky’s best and brightest lesbians is absolutely sending me 😭😂
We are all a little bit different when someone is watching but usually not _this_ different. I'm realizing more and more that she is actually a bad person.
Maturity is working through your trauma and not using it as a never ending excuse for poor behavior- Ellis Anthony This is a quote I found that seems accurate to her and her behavior
Right, like mental illness also “makes” people murder other people.. that doesn’t mean they dont still serve time in prison or an institution. On the other hand, Mental illness can also “make” people very kind and forgiving when they shouldn’t be. Amber just can’t take responsibility whatsoever and it’s so frustrating .
re: the service animal abuse thing, that is available on the public record in regard to ALR's mom so i'm not sure why amber said that didn't happen. also i love how you can literally hear amber smiling when she first starts talking lol
I am guilty of sometimes blaming certain behaviors on my mental health (getting better at not doing it), but Amber is very adept at making it a habit. Plus as a recovering alcoholic, how dare she call Destiny's family situation "tea"? Like... Ma'am, your addiction literally prevented you from losing ONE POUND.
theres definitely a difference in explaining behavior vs. excusing it. all amber does is excuse her behavior so she can keep doing it without guilt. but explaining your behavior still means your taking steps to deal/manage your mental health. i think its total valid to explain why your acting a certain way but mental illness is never an excuse
Sometimes it's helpful to see someone do an exaggerated version of one of your own bad behaviors to be like... ugh, yeah, that is annoying. I felt like that with ALR and her journals. I like to have blank journals because I kind of imagine the story that would be written in them... but I do all my writing in word documents? So I sometimes feel like... dang, it is kinda wasteful and silly to buy these journals.
The only mental health issues i can think of that lead to manipulative behaviors is Cluster B personality disorders, and i don't think Amber would like having any of those labels attached to her; so she better watch herself with that "my mentals make me manipulate" nonsense
if she doesn't want to be attached to cluster B personality disorders then she better stop talking about her traumatic childhood anytime she needs to deflect anything because there is a looot of overlap between cluster B and childhood trauma (not diagnosing anyone obvz)
Yep, this whole phonecall reminded me very heavily of one of the last times I spoke to an ex-friend who had BPD (I’d reached a Destiny level of not giving a shit by then, and it drove said ex-friend absolutely wild)
She most certainly has a cluster B disorder. Sure she won't like the stigma that goes with cluster B but it is what it is. As an aside im really disappointed in people spouting all this "support" for mental health but then promptly shitting on people with bad behaviors as a result of the mental health struggles they have. Its like they support mental illness but only when its a quirky people pleasing self destructive type of mental illness that they can comfortably ignore. Cluster B is a normal reaction to a profoundly damaging childhood. I just can't hate people for surviving the things they did. B's aren't throwaway people , they are highly traumatized people who are worthy of love and support. They are trying for sure and I'm not saying they don't need held accountable for the unacceptable things they do but even they dont deserve to be so stigmatized they won't seek appropriate help because of the diagnosis.
@@evil1by1 I get what you mean; I have BPD. I know Cluster B disorders are the result of trauma, but I don't necessarily blame folks for not wanting to deal with other people's struggles, especially given that the negative traits of Cluster Bs affect others. If you don't make an effort to control yourself, I don't think you can rightfully get upset at being alone. I lost a lot of friends in school because I was an absolute shit, and it was only after learning to cope properly and to not display those negative traits that I was able to rebuild some of those connections. My problem with Amber is how she handles her diagnosis: "I have this condition that *excuses* my behavior. I am above criticism because I have a diagnosis. It makes me do bad things and you have to accept that." If that's the route she's gonna take and she isn't going to work on coping and controlling her BPD, she doesn't get ass pats; she gets rightful criticism
amber ranting about knowing how to heal reminded me of that moment where she said she knew the most about health and diets like WOW it really is a never ending loop with her
I'm an addict who is working towards sobriety but still struggle often. I have alot of empathy for Amberlynn in regards to her food addiction because of my own addiction. But her calling out Destiny's brother's struggles with sobriety as tea was really gross and messed up. Thankyou for your respect towards addicts and their privacy Zach 💜
I think Amber loves the attention from Destiny rather its negative or positive.When a person is still attracted to a person,they crave any kind of attention, which is so unhealthy but any normal person wouldn't continue the conversation and if either had respect for their partners would not have continued on like they did.Not even for money.
It was so wild because density straight up admitted to being a troll for views and amber didn’t hang up so she could try to muh-nipple-ate with a comment like “btw I’m having this potential medical issue.” Double ick. They deserve each other.
I actually stumbled upon this livestream shorty after it ended and have been so excited for your hot take!!🎉🎉❤ She actually FINALLY gave you props for being not a channel just trying to tear you down. What a great way to start this week before I have calculus II tomorrow 😅
this was SO EMBARRASSING for both of them. OHHH my god, listening to the clips is so uncomfortable 😍😍 it almost seems staged, not in the way that they’re both in on it, but they’re so eager to get shit out of the other person or spill what they know and it’s just. 😭😭 it’s giving MIDDLE SCHOOL
Lmao destiny said "i don't want to hear it. After Amber said she would never talk about Becky the destinys dad and brother. This live stream is 100% how Amberlyn really is
Ok Destiny consent to be on camera but did not consent to be on camera while in her underwear, on the toilet or in the shower. Thats a huge thing Amber misses. That is a huge invasion of privacy that Destiny didnt know was happening.
Had a narcisistic and compulsive liar as a roommate once, ALR reminds me a lot of her That roommate made me realize mental illness is a reason, not an excuse - you aren't a bad person because of your mental illness, you're just a bad person, ALR
One of my favorite podcasters, Marcus Parks from Last Podcast on the Left, has a great saying, "Your mental health illness is not your fault but it is your responsibility."
You can definitely tell when amber gets super defensive and backed into a corner because she starts making excuses that don’t even make sense towards the discussion at hand. She also just starts speaking to where it doesn’t make sense on what she is talking about because she will bring up a different topic
Both of these people aren't the best examples of a "good person" and need help to work through their issues. But, Amber called Destiny back knowing she was live and tried to blackmail and intimidate to stop the tea-spill. It's debatable whether she knew or not that Destiny restarted the livestream, but she said what she said to blackmail Destiny to be quiet. Family was what she thought was her big tea on Destiny, ALR trashy and nasty. She was so desperate to control Destiny's livestream, she couldn't hang up (and seemed too excited about it).
I am going to take "healing" advice from ALR right after I take her nutrition advice! (I rolled my eyes so hard I was afraid they would stick that way).🙄🙄
Destiny is giving Amber a taste of her own medicine. Amber spent YEARS admonishing Destiny online and continues to do so for whatever reason. Amber contradicting herself constantly on this phone call shows how manipulative and abusive she really is; she says anything in the moment that she thinks will help her case and in the process contradicts herself and tries to explain it away. I'm literally liveeeeen for this drama
AND ANOTHER THING. Addiction comes from mental health issues (the majority of the time). So she blames her shit behavior on her mental illness but Destiny's brother's addiction is TEA? Get the fuck out of here
AND ONE MORE THING. Amber says that when she talks shit about her exes, etc. it's her "speaking her truth" and when people tell her it's inappropriate, she says she's "being silenced". So she has no right to tell Destiny that she can't talk about her past.
She definitely knew she was live still. The way she listed the important detail that both of them knew "your brother is a coke addict... your dad is not your dad" instead of "remember when you told me that thing about your dad" just reminded me of a character forcing exposition through dialogue in a not very well written movie lol
amber is a public person. and i think this would be a good time for amber to learn to take criticism and stop focusing on everybody else's view of her.
Whoaaaaa hold the phone…she actually said “what becky put me through.”??? Oh mann i have said it before but this needs to be said again and in all caps. SHE IS SO DELUSIONAL! 😂
I hate how she’s like “I didn’t know I was live that’s why I mentioned her brother and dad.” Like you had to clarify that? What that you would only manipulate her in private? Not while she’s on live?
I want to know what ambers next storyline will be. I’ve said all along she was never getting WLS and I still don’t think she’s done any therapy or anything pertaining to WLS
Amber using information about Destiny's brother (and the rest of her family) and holding it over her head as "tea" makes me sick to my stomach. It also further proves to me that Amber only shared the story about Cash to just make Destiny look bad. Destiny's brother, her dog, and most of her family have nothing to do with Amber, nothing to do with their time together, and yet Amber will use any and everything from Destiny's life to try and paint her in a bad light. She's not the empath she boasts she is. She's a manipulative abuser.
Omgggg I am so excited - I am just sitting down to eat dinner and thought to myself "I wonder if ZM posted a video today?". Thank you for the new video bestie!!
As someone who used to have many manipulative tendencies that stemmed from trauma and mental illness, hearing her use mental illness as an excuse for hurting people disgusted me. I wasn’t aware of those tendencies, until someone I love brought it to my attention and I almost lost that person. Once I was aware, I fought hard to fix the way I was behaving. I still have the same mental illnesses. 🙄
Thank you for doing God’s work on Earth Zach. I refuse to watch the actual livestreams but I wanted the tea so bad. ALR is going to be doing damage control on this for a minute. This will be the kind of thing she’s telling people to let go of months from now in Instagram Q&As.
Dusty stuffing her face while trolling amber is peak kentucky behavior
I loved it bestieeee
The string cheese
Literally iconic.
I'm here for it that's how I would treat someone who treated people like Amber did 😂
i got sick just from watching this childlike junk food combination she ate
They’re both trash but Amber using someone else’s addiction as “tea” was really shocking… especially with her past and her own self proclaimed food addiction
They’re two different types. Destiny has her issues but she hasn’t left a rampage of hell and trauma behind her. Amber’s slug trail follows every which way. Destiny is ignorant but strikes me as someone who genuinely cares for those in her life that she loves. Her ignorant and racist jokes are sadly a common thing with more rural spots. It shocked me how many ACTUAL racists I met in the marines. On the bright side we didn’t get penalized for punching someone’s lights out for it so 🤧🤡
@@-MaryPoppins- Thank yall for your service (punching racists)
@@-MaryPoppins-she has for the poor animals unfortunate enough to have crossed her path…
And with her own parents being former addicts.
it speaks volumes. im not even shocked but i am disappointed. shes always talked abt drug addiction like its some how lesser than food addiction. like its not as difficult to quit, like its even comparable... it makes me so mad cuz im a drug addict and it really hits a nerve. like being an addict is my fucking life, its not drama in the slightest. i cant even articulate how much it hurts to hear her treat addiction like its some mark against a persons character, like its something to shame ppl for? that doesnt help anyone and she should know that since she herself compares food addiction to drug addiction. i dont think its a fair comparison but it baffles me how she can then turn around and act like shes any better than us... i cant even, im really at my wits end with amber
how amberlynn can call anyone a hypocrite when she contradicts herself every 15 seconds is beyond me
I think she broke a record here lmao
because she's a hypocrite on a meta level too!
every word that comes out of her mouth just infuriates me
She's that conceded 😂
Narcissists will do that with feeling.
Amber: What are you doing?!
Destiny: *stirs slushie* Healing. :)
Great moment
I'm still shocked Amberlynn really said "my mentall illness makes me manipulate people" with her whole chest. She really said it like it's an excuse or something. She needs help it's shocking how delusional she is🫣
She’s always the victim. Always. No matter what the situation amber is the victim.
She is delusional to the point that she will never seek real help herself. It would have to be forced on her somehow.
*manipalate
it's wild because there's a pause before she says it where you would think she's having a moment of reflection and then nope just makes a big ol' excuse
Can’t wait to see what explanation she cooks up to explain her way out of that one.
Destiny being absolutely unbothered while Amber tries to manipulate her is such a vibe.
Yessss 😂 just sippin' her drink and chillin' 😎
Same here I honestly don't care what people say or think about me because most of the time they have done so much terrible crap themselves that it's laughable 😂
I dont think theres much goin on up there lmao
Right like i don’t even like destiny but she can be really funny lmao she just does not care
I feel like this is stage because it sounds like they’re both talking friendly with each other but put each other down
Trash or not, I honestly love how Destiny entertains NONE of it. Literally the perfect way to deal with someone in that situation.
i only watched the pieces that are in other videos, but i do think it's insane that amber talked for probably over an hour while destiny just interjected here and there. how sad is your life that you're watching your ex from 7 years ago livestream, calling her and talking non stop for an hour while she just listens and makes money off of you making yourself look like an abusive idiot...
it is SO funny how she's sitting there EATING going "yeah" "no" "ok"
Literally it was so funny when she indirectly told Amberlynn she was live. Cuz like Amberlynn was complaining about a reaction channel clipping what she says and twisting it to fit her narrative and Destiny was just like “well she’s gunna have a field day with this one” SO FUNNY
Her complaining that destiny is using this for money like she didn’t eat herself to almost 600 lbs on camera in 100% delusion
I haven't seen the whole thing but my favorite clip so far was Amber asking/suggesting to Destiny that she should give Amber half her money from the livestream.
@@lisarae7823right like girl what about that money you “were giving” to becky during live stream era 🤔
“You’re just doing this for money!” I mean, duh, of course. That’s not going to guilt Destiny into doing anything differently.
"you're just doing this for money" like Amber didn't drag Becky for views.
Amberlynn has always been a gigantic bully in my eyes, using threats and money to get people to do what she wants. Her having 'tea' to spill is laughable because the most damaging 'tea' consists of stories about Amberlynn's behavior.
Amberlynn is a bully and she just proved it here in these streams with Destiny,
she is literally, a gigantic bully
She proved it in the voice notes to Becky's mom, "and not once have you thanked me for the money I was GOING to give you"
@@TheNamesAllison Exactly and the same withe money fir the lives at the end. Amber OWES a years salary!
Heavy on the *gigantic*
Yep! It's about time her ex gorl friends speak up!! ❤
“And I didn’t think you were that type of person”
“hm”
LMFAO she could not care less
I think that’s what makes me cackle the most, destiny isn’t a great person obviously but the fact she literally couldn’t care less is SO FUNNY to me absolutely impervious to amberlyns bull hahahahaha it’s so so funny
@@dannydevito2587 This is largely why Amber can't let go of Destiny imo, it kills her that she can't get her to care.
Yeah. People like Amber really crave a reaction, when they don’t get it, it really drives them mad and I love that for her. 😂
This phone call reminded me of a middle school fight with your best friend where you have to keep reminding yourself you’re mad at them even though you slick wanna be friends again
I think she was thrilled Destiny called her
life gets so much easier once you mature enough to the point that you cut toxicity out of your life and avoid people who put up with drama or instigate.
totallyyyy
I literally was just picturing the scene in Talladega nights when he’s on the phone with Cal and keeps getting sucked back in 😂 I’ve watched that movie so much recently because things keep reminding me of it Lmfao
It’s like when you wanted your friend to know what someone was saying about them. So you secretly 3way called them.
Here faster than Amber forgetting she’s on LIVE with Destiny
Evil Kermy!!! 🐸
🍵 🍵 🍵 🐸
Who wasn’t waiting for this? I was checking all day! 😂
@@starkman78Same 😭
Amber Lynn is completely toxic there's a reason why faline wants no part of Amber Lynn's streams it's because she's learning how many people she has wronged and doesn't want her name associated with Amber's 😂 she's well aware by now of Amber's horrible reputation 😢
It is truly mindboggling to me how Amber has established that Destiny is a cheater, money-hungry, and the worst, who would say anything about her for Internet points, and yet answers her phone calls and spends over an hour on the phone with her while Destiny was on live getting superchats and what not. Literally it all could have been avoided had you just ignored a call from your toxic ex. Amber just loved to hear herself talk and is obsessed with getting every single word in.
i really think she was actually quite happy to be talking to destiny, sometimes she was pissed yes but most of the time her voice literally told on her lol and like you said. you wouldn‘t usually stay on the phone with someone you supposedly hate for so long, especially talking to each other the way they have? it sounded like teenaged ex friends who are in a fight but actually want to spend time witj each other lol
@@merle444literally there we times that she forgot that she was supposed to hate destiny and just started talking to her like normal. Weird
She was giddy to have the opportunity to speak to Destiny!
@@merle444 our gorl was giggling and kicking her feet not realising destiny was laughing at her not with her
She’s obsessed with her. She would have wipey packing her bags if destiny would take her back
Never have I anxiously awaited a Zachary Michael video like I did this one. ManipulativeLynn was out in full force this weekend and I can't wait to hear what Zach has to say. I officially can no longer find my sympathy bone for this woman.
I’ve been checking since yesterday. When it popped up I ran here. 😂
You said it well Bestie hahahha. I was waiting too
I knew they would have been out having so much Pride weekend fun, but I just couldn’t wait for them to get a reaction out for us 😂
I was soooo ready for his reaction 😂😂😂
ManipuLynn sounds fitting , doesn't it lol
She stayed on that call SO LONG. I wouldn't even pick up for an ex, let alone talk to them for an hour and let them basically interview me about personal stuff like my surgery journey or my current partner.
Isn't Pookie's brother in prison on drug charges?
What difference does it make if Destiny's brother has addiction problems?
Neither brother is a cast member, so...
Pookie? You are an energy vampire and a classic narcissistic gaslighter.
ALR's whole family is made up of drug addicts who have done/are still doing time. no shade, that's the reality. she just got addicted to food instead, and acting like she's better than drug addicts is weird
She's such a hypocrite
i almost choked on my damn water when amberlynn start trying to tell anyone about healthy healing
Just don't poop yourself 😅
Right?! And the fact that Amber offered her therapist's number. That would be unethical and a conflict of interest for the therapist. She just doesn't think.
Her version of healthy healing is going to get fast food instead of door dash bringing it to her door 😂 "I'm so proud you goyyzz"
Isn't it weird amber even talked to destiny? Like she tried to seem so high and mighty and done with the drama and yet she talked to her for an hour joking around even? And being somewhat cordial at times, answering questions, like what??? How is that mature or genuine???!
if we want to talk about acting mature with ex-partners destiny should ask ALR why she forces all her ex-girlfriends to sleep in her bed after they've broken up
My thoughts exactly 💯 she wouldn't of answered if that were true but deep down she was happy as a pig in shit when Destiny called her lol
i just cannot get over how… seamlessly amber uses manipulation tactics. the act of saying “i’m not that kind of person” does not negate your own actions. “my mental illness makes me manipulate” just makes me feel sick as someone who has mental illness. even if that was true, what therapist would ever tell you to say that?? they wouldn’t - she’s just making excuses for herself
She literally said “I’m not that kind of person” like 100 times in this livestream alone. 😒 you ARE that person, amber.
Actually, manipulation can be due to some mental illnesses. That being said, it will NEVER justify the negative impact it has on others. In therapy, we encourage people to take accountability for the things they did when they didn't know better. Sadly, Amber is using something that causes pain to a lot of people as an excuse
Yeah she was embarrassed but only bc we heard everything she said.
to me, it was representative of the fact, Amber is fully aware of her tactics and is using mental illness as the catch-net excuse to avoid accountability. It was not delusion because delusion is believing a fake visage and her capacity to articulate the reason she manipulates was a very conscious statement that she thought would be to her benefit.
Her delusion is thinking she is smarter than the other people in the room
(hugs to you and hope you are finding ways to cope)
@@anamorel2634 yeah that’s my thing. mental illness can cause a person to behave that way but i have never met a therapist that has ever encouraged their client to address their mental illness in that matter. a good patient recognizes that and address and APOLOGIZES for it, not use it as a deflection tactic. it’s honestly sickening :/
At this rate, I'm starting to think Amberlynn just gets upset when people have a good relationship with their mom. 🤷♀️
With anyone*
@@jordiflowerlol. accurate
I saw someone else point this out and it made 100% sense with what we’ve seen / heard of Amber and her relationships with all of her girlfriends mom. Personally, I have never NOT gotten along with my partners parents. I know bad relationships like this obviously do exist for people at some point but in my 40 years on earth and in many various relationships / friendships over time, I have never fought, disrespected or even argued with a parent of my partner. Whether I always liked or agreed with them or not. The fact that Amber has at some point had a horrible relationship and drama with EVERY SINGLE one of them speaks absolute volumes.
@LaurenWoz421 yeah I had problems with my ex husband's parents because they had his girlfriend over for dinner while I was literally in acoma. I never said anything to them though, that's crazy. I was raised to respect my elders, so i dont talk to elders the way she does. I cant imagine hating my partners parents and talking to them the way amberlynn talked to Becky's mom and im sure Destiny's mom too.
@@jordiflower true🤣🤷♀️
Just watching Destiny's reactions here crack me up. She so unbothered and I have no doubt Amberlynn was raging.
Amber 1,000% was watching Destiny and knew the whole time that Destiny was live while on the phone. Amber used the excuse that she “didn’t know” in order to say what she wanted thinking she’d be excused
I agree. She knew the entire time.
Exactly!
amber was so far outta pocket with the """"tea"""" on destinys brother. absolutely pathetic shes an addict herself
She's an addict, her parents are addicts, her brothers in jail on drug charges..she's so dumb
And let's not forget her family.
Amberlynn when its her addiction: 🥺🥺🥺 pity me boohoo
Amberlynn on others':
Also, I didn’t watch Destiny’s streams, so I don’t know if this is relevant or not, but one of the criminal charges Amberlynn’s mother faced (and iirc was convicted of) was assault on a service dog. So Amberlynn saying that Destiny was a terrible person because Dana’s father put down the dog that Destiny and Dana shared was super hypocritical as usual.
Not that I think Destiny, Dana, or Dana’s dad made good moral choices in the situation with that dog, because I don’t, but the way Amberlynn sensationalized it was gross.
She looks down her nose at addicts that aren't herself or someone she loves. It's very weird. Like yes, I get that her parents addiction stole a lot from her as a child, but instead of being upset with her parents she holds a negative option of other people who have substance use issues. As the child of a deceased addict, I really just don't get it. I have sympathy for her as a food addict, but she wouldn't have had sympathy for my dad. Very weird to me.
Amberlynn and Destiny are 2 of the biggest losers on this platform and I’m the 3rd biggest loser for keeping up with all of them lol.
Lmfaooo you’re so right bestie we all are losers 😂
@@danielle8608amen gorls
SAME 😂 why are they so entertaining!!!
She always has messages or screenshots she CAN show yet never does 😂
shes just not that kind of person!!1!
Its very much like the kid who would claim they could do back-flips,but they don't feel like doing it right now.
Im pretty sure if she ever have to, it was just her burner account messaging her main
@@kianar210😂
Screenshots would be 80% redacted and manipulated. 😂
EVERYTHING that comes out of ALRs mouth is to make her look like a victim . She literally thinks she's the victim in EVERY situation.
classic narcissistic behavior
I feel like what alr severely fails to realize is that mental illness is an EXPLANATION for aggression/manipulation/etc, not an excuse or justification. You can't just be an abusive asshole to people for years because you also have mental illness. I've been through the wringer w depression/anxiety but if I ever treat others bad bc of what I'm going through I make sure to own up and apologize. The impact still happened regardless
Neurodivergence can be debilitating, but certainly not a reason to treat everyone like shit.
💯💯💯
I have cptsd, and I have been manipulative and abusive in my past - it's an explanation, it doesn't absolve me of my wrongdoings. It's also fully my responsibility to make amends and NOT repeat that behavior.
yeah and i hate how shes making it seem like mental illness = violence and manipulation. she uses her disorders as an excuse instead of taking any accountability for her actions. she makes everyone else with a mental illness look bad by association
Oh, I think that is great that you apologize but then that also becomes like a little game and you treat people like crap and then you apologize and like can’t keep doing the same thing and I’m not saying that you were doing it but some people do that crap
Y’all don’t know mental health issues like amber does 😡
Right!? When someone is going through a psychotic break and shoves someone into the train tracks no one goes "oh, they're clearly suffering so of course they'll act out and take it out on others." Yes you lose control of yourself or have behaviors you aren't conscious of with mental health issues (for example my active listening taking effort and concentration more than average) but that doesn't make the wrong action right. Ignoring half of someone's story because I'm not realizing that I stopped listening still makes me the asshole in the situation.
Watching Destiny troll Amber live was not on my gorlworld bingo card
Aw your boss noticed how down you were and finally gave you a good review :’) Keep it up, bestie!
His quarterly review was good and he’s off the action plan now
She'll want half the money for it, though! 💰
So true
LOL. Half the money for a good performance review
Amber does see things in black and white. She sees things as pro or anti Amber and that's all that matters. Her saying she doesn't see black and white is just her saying she will switch up her stance as suits her needs. Ultimate spineless hypocrite.
She just projects as the narcissist she is
Spineless bully
YES
Absolutely. That black and white thinking also explains the binge eating, and even some of her mental health.
Everything Amber says in this is emotional abuse 101. She's hitting every single bullet point. It makes me so uncomfortable. But, Destiny is doing AMAZINGLY not letting her see it get to her, so bravo in that respect.
Well said! My thoughts exactly
She did amazing. I think the constant stream of snacks helped 😂
Destiny is not easily rattled and is good at at least appearing like she doesn't give a fuck and I feel like this has been what's kept Amber hung up on her, it KILLS Amber that she can't get to her like she did with say, Becky. She's never been able to control Destiny.
That's because destiny can't be bothered by trivial crap when she's the one with the most intimate damaging to Amber's reputation information but at this point amber doesn't have much of a career anyways 😂
Agreed!
You can tell in her tone, that she stayed on the phone and was sort of.. cutesy, I could tell she was trying to backtrack on her personality reveal. It was awkward and sad, anyone who has to say I'm not that person 800 times, IS that person
*I can't believe she thinks we don't know that she wasn't approved for weight loss surgery*
Funny thing is that even during argument there is more chemistry between two of them, than Amber and Wifey EVER
Exactly ! She still wants Destiny 😅😂
@@ubtv9671 I think it's strange dynamic. Destiny also seems like she's into Amber in some way.
@@katarzynarawska9999in my opinion it is more of a false sense of connection that destiny tries to give Amber, because destiny knows just how much power she holds over ambers emotions and she really really enjoys winding her up because she knows how to hit exactly where she wants bc she knows her so well
@@katarzynarawska9999Could be trauma bonding?
Abusive relationships aren't easy to move on from, from what I've heard and seen. Not that I'm any kind of professional there.
@@oren1305I was thinking the same thing. Amber is definitely a narcissist. 😂
if only amberlynn showed as much restraint in her eating habits and public statements as she does with protecting wifey's identity
My biggest takeaway from it all (besides how shitty she is for using Destiny’s family as “tea”) is that we can expect her to not get WLS and that she’s probably going to blame it on her lungs. Which is exactly what I predicted 😅
Edit: your comment at the end about Kentucky’s best and brightest lesbians is absolutely sending me 😭😂
Kentucky Fried Lesbian 🍗
I’m crying at Kentucky’s best and brightest lesbians along with destiny not getting the obcd joke 😂😂😂
Whatever, Destiny used amber’s hygiene as tea. They’re both revolting
@@BeckBeckGoyea but she never said anything negative about ambers family at all
@@JinxReignz You don't measure it like that. Exact insult for exact insulting thing.
An hour bestie?? You're too good to us, Zach 😂❤
RIGHT
We are all a little bit different when someone is watching but usually not _this_ different. I'm realizing more and more that she is actually a bad person.
It doesn't matter if she knew or not, she was still blackmailing destiny with the information privately, or so she thought
Maturity is working through your trauma and not using it as a never ending excuse for poor behavior- Ellis Anthony
This is a quote I found that seems accurate to her and her behavior
Preach!
I’ve seen like 12 people quote this in 5 recent ALR videos/comps. Lol 😂 I love it.
@InthatLavenderHaze Lol, love it. I have shared it on a Bottle video and a AppFaxx video so I am spreading the word 😅😂😅
Right, like mental illness also “makes” people murder other people.. that doesn’t mean they dont still serve time in prison or an institution. On the other hand, Mental illness can also “make” people very kind and forgiving when they shouldn’t be. Amber just can’t take responsibility whatsoever and it’s so frustrating .
re: the service animal abuse thing, that is available on the public record in regard to ALR's mom so i'm not sure why amber said that didn't happen. also i love how you can literally hear amber smiling when she first starts talking lol
Yeah she was loving it
I am guilty of sometimes blaming certain behaviors on my mental health (getting better at not doing it), but Amber is very adept at making it a habit. Plus as a recovering alcoholic, how dare she call Destiny's family situation "tea"? Like... Ma'am, your addiction literally prevented you from losing ONE POUND.
theres definitely a difference in explaining behavior vs. excusing it. all amber does is excuse her behavior so she can keep doing it without guilt. but explaining your behavior still means your taking steps to deal/manage your mental health. i think its total valid to explain why your acting a certain way but mental illness is never an excuse
Sometimes it's helpful to see someone do an exaggerated version of one of your own bad behaviors to be like... ugh, yeah, that is annoying. I felt like that with ALR and her journals. I like to have blank journals because I kind of imagine the story that would be written in them... but I do all my writing in word documents? So I sometimes feel like... dang, it is kinda wasteful and silly to buy these journals.
The only mental health issues i can think of that lead to manipulative behaviors is Cluster B personality disorders, and i don't think Amber would like having any of those labels attached to her; so she better watch herself with that "my mentals make me manipulate" nonsense
if she doesn't want to be attached to cluster B personality disorders then she better stop talking about her traumatic childhood anytime she needs to deflect anything because there is a looot of overlap between cluster B and childhood trauma (not diagnosing anyone obvz)
@@kittea1804 not diagnosing anyone but if I had ALR as a client / co-worker etc I would put in place the boundaries i use for those with BPD.
Yep, this whole phonecall reminded me very heavily of one of the last times I spoke to an ex-friend who had BPD (I’d reached a Destiny level of not giving a shit by then, and it drove said ex-friend absolutely wild)
She most certainly has a cluster B disorder. Sure she won't like the stigma that goes with cluster B but it is what it is.
As an aside im really disappointed in people spouting all this "support" for mental health but then promptly shitting on people with bad behaviors as a result of the mental health struggles they have. Its like they support mental illness but only when its a quirky people pleasing self destructive type of mental illness that they can comfortably ignore. Cluster B is a normal reaction to a profoundly damaging childhood. I just can't hate people for surviving the things they did. B's aren't throwaway people , they are highly traumatized people who are worthy of love and support. They are trying for sure and I'm not saying they don't need held accountable for the unacceptable things they do but even they dont deserve to be so stigmatized they won't seek appropriate help because of the diagnosis.
@@evil1by1
I get what you mean; I have BPD. I know Cluster B disorders are the result of trauma, but I don't necessarily blame folks for not wanting to deal with other people's struggles, especially given that the negative traits of Cluster Bs affect others. If you don't make an effort to control yourself, I don't think you can rightfully get upset at being alone. I lost a lot of friends in school because I was an absolute shit, and it was only after learning to cope properly and to not display those negative traits that I was able to rebuild some of those connections. My problem with Amber is how she handles her diagnosis: "I have this condition that *excuses* my behavior. I am above criticism because I have a diagnosis. It makes me do bad things and you have to accept that." If that's the route she's gonna take and she isn't going to work on coping and controlling her BPD, she doesn't get ass pats; she gets rightful criticism
Destiny may be a not great person, but her not letting Amber get under her skin is a Master Class on how to deal with a manipulative person.
“I’m not that kind of person”
Literally 3 seconds later she does what she said she wouldn’t do
amber ranting about knowing how to heal reminded me of that moment where she said she knew the most about health and diets like WOW it really is a never ending loop with her
I'm an addict who is working towards sobriety but still struggle often. I have alot of empathy for Amberlynn in regards to her food addiction because of my own addiction. But her calling out Destiny's brother's struggles with sobriety as tea was really gross and messed up. Thankyou for your respect towards addicts and their privacy Zach 💜
One day at a time💛
@deemix1614 Yes, thankyou for the support! 😊
You got this❤
@bendystraw976 Thankyou, I really appreciate that! 💜
@elbrooks88 I understand some days are so difficult. You are strong.
“I think y’all are fuckin weird” PREACH
💯
I think Amber loves the attention from Destiny rather its negative or positive.When a person is still attracted to a person,they crave any kind of attention, which is so unhealthy but any normal person wouldn't continue the conversation and if either had respect for their partners would not have continued on like they did.Not even for money.
Yep she still ❤ Destiny she was happier in that hour than the entire Becky/Feline arc
That's why she's so busy and doesn't have time for things because she's watching all the reaction channels of her. It all makes sense 😅
And watching Tiktok for the next juvenile fad to latch on to. 😖
She said im not that type of person AND IN THE SAME BREATH SAID he used to be a cokehead 😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫
Amber is so horrible. She exposed herself so hard she can’t cover up who she truly is.
It was so wild because density straight up admitted to being a troll for views and amber didn’t hang up so she could try to muh-nipple-ate with a comment like “btw I’m having this potential medical issue.” Double ick. They deserve each other.
“muh-nipple-ate” stop 💀😂😭
DENSITY
Muhnippleate is my new favorite word haha. 😂
an example of how two things can be true at the same time; 1) mental illness can explain behavior, 2) mental illness does not excuse behavior
So Amberlynn is the only one that can make money from youtube?
It's in the terms of service!
I actually stumbled upon this livestream shorty after it ended and have been so excited for your hot take!!🎉🎉❤
She actually FINALLY gave you props for being not a channel just trying to tear you down. What a great way to start this week before I have calculus II tomorrow 😅
GOOD LUCK WITH CALC 🙏🙏😭
this was SO EMBARRASSING for both of them. OHHH my god, listening to the clips is so uncomfortable 😍😍 it almost seems staged, not in the way that they’re both in on it, but they’re so eager to get shit out of the other person or spill what they know and it’s just. 😭😭 it’s giving MIDDLE SCHOOL
You're so right! I wonder if this is what big al was filling her journals with this whole time? It almost sounds scripted.
When you dont get past that middle school mentality even when youre 30 being like
Hatsune miku pfp spotted!! It's wild how amberleynn's mess gathers all kinds of people from all walks of life to come and watch lmao
@@yuki97kira So many people never mentally and emotionally mature past their teen years, one of the biggest things I've realized as an adult.
“What’s wrong with karina kaboom? She’s a nice lady!” Has made me laugh my ass off
We all know Amber would drop Feline with a quickness if Destiny wanted her back, right?
Totally!
It’s very obvious as soon as ALR realizes she’s on live, it’s just all a PR move to cover her ass.
Lmao destiny said "i don't want to hear it. After Amber said she would never talk about Becky the destinys dad and brother. This live stream is 100% how Amberlyn really is
Ok Destiny consent to be on camera but did not consent to be on camera while in her underwear, on the toilet or in the shower. Thats a huge thing Amber misses. That is a huge invasion of privacy that Destiny didnt know was happening.
Amber knows an awful lot of information about reaction channels when she doesn't watch any of them 😂
33:37 the FAT vape rip as amber starts a rant is so funny😂 like dusty doesn't give a fuck
Is amber watching while she's on call? I hope she saw that
Had a narcisistic and compulsive liar as a roommate once, ALR reminds me a lot of her
That roommate made me realize mental illness is a reason, not an excuse - you aren't a bad person because of your mental illness, you're just a bad person, ALR
Destiny definitely isn't awesome, but Amber Lynn talking about the brother's addiction was garbage. Uggh
We have this thing called Midsummer here in Finland so I was out of the grid for the weekend. WTF did I miss 😅😂
Did amyone notice the pause when destiny asked her if she's actually getting WLS?...
Could drive a truck through that long ass pause
I watch Korina kaboom and she is so respectful, never cares about her weight, and tells everything like it is. She sees right through amber
I used to watch her during the makeup UA-camr days and she didn’t lie - speculate sure but she didn’t twist anyone’s words
Fiancée #3 pretending to read while this happens in the room is so funny to me. I wouldn't be able to focus on a colouring book.
i simply can‘t wrap my head around the fact that this is a woman in her 30s
One of my favorite podcasters, Marcus Parks from Last Podcast on the Left, has a great saying, "Your mental health illness is not your fault but it is your responsibility."
You can definitely tell when amber gets super defensive and backed into a corner because she starts making excuses that don’t even make sense towards the discussion at hand. She also just starts speaking to where it doesn’t make sense on what she is talking about because she will bring up a different topic
it seemed as if she were trying to do some sort of damage control by staying on the call - unsuccessfully
I want to see karina kaboom and Zac do a video call together 😭 with dusty and Becky as guest the amberverse would melt down
Jordy also isn’t a 600 lb house plant that refuses to leave his home.
600 pound house plant. Omg.😂
HOUSE PLANT
Both of these people aren't the best examples of a "good person" and need help to work through their issues. But, Amber called Destiny back knowing she was live and tried to blackmail and intimidate to stop the tea-spill. It's debatable whether she knew or not that Destiny restarted the livestream, but she said what she said to blackmail Destiny to be quiet. Family was what she thought was her big tea on Destiny, ALR trashy and nasty. She was so desperate to control Destiny's livestream, she couldn't hang up (and seemed too excited about it).
I am going to take "healing" advice from ALR right after I take her nutrition advice! (I rolled my eyes so hard I was afraid they would stick that way).🙄🙄
Destiny is giving Amber a taste of her own medicine. Amber spent YEARS admonishing Destiny online and continues to do so for whatever reason. Amber contradicting herself constantly on this phone call shows how manipulative and abusive she really is; she says anything in the moment that she thinks will help her case and in the process contradicts herself and tries to explain it away. I'm literally liveeeeen for this drama
AND ANOTHER THING. Addiction comes from mental health issues (the majority of the time). So she blames her shit behavior on her mental illness but Destiny's brother's addiction is TEA? Get the fuck out of here
AND ONE MORE THING. Amber says that when she talks shit about her exes, etc. it's her "speaking her truth" and when people tell her it's inappropriate, she says she's "being silenced". So she has no right to tell Destiny that she can't talk about her past.
She definitely knew she was live still. The way she listed the important detail that both of them knew "your brother is a coke addict... your dad is not your dad" instead of "remember when you told me that thing about your dad" just reminded me of a character forcing exposition through dialogue in a not very well written movie lol
Excellent point!
Po, "I don't know why Big Al can't keep Zach's name out of her f*cking mouth."
Judy, "She's got a crush on him."
Po, "EEEEWWWW!"
🤣😂🤣
Why is she speaking on someone who plays World of Warcraft "all day" when she sits her ass at home playing with slime and coloring in color books.
amber is a public person. and i think this would be a good time for amber to learn to take criticism and stop focusing on everybody else's view of her.
omg I had JUST sit down to have my meal and thought "Zach could really post something right now" AND THERE YOU ARE
I'm so early.... I can't believe amber made it so easy for Destiny. Gal really just had to put the phone down and let her talk to herself.
Whoaaaaa hold the phone…she actually said “what becky put me through.”??? Oh mann i have said it before but this needs to be said again and in all caps. SHE IS SO DELUSIONAL! 😂
Zach. I cannot wait to hear what you have to say about all of this mess! Missed ya bestie!
I hate how she’s like “I didn’t know I was live that’s why I mentioned her brother and dad.” Like you had to clarify that? What that you would only manipulate her in private? Not while she’s on live?
Ohhh new Zach vid to watch while I work on cleaning my subsidized housing for a walk through tomorrow! Always love to see it after the weekend!
my jaw DROPPED when amber said what she did about destiny’s brother and dad
I want to know what ambers next storyline will be. I’ve said all along she was never getting WLS and I still don’t think she’s done any therapy or anything pertaining to WLS
Amber using information about Destiny's brother (and the rest of her family) and holding it over her head as "tea" makes me sick to my stomach. It also further proves to me that Amber only shared the story about Cash to just make Destiny look bad. Destiny's brother, her dog, and most of her family have nothing to do with Amber, nothing to do with their time together, and yet Amber will use any and everything from Destiny's life to try and paint her in a bad light. She's not the empath she boasts she is. She's a manipulative abuser.
Omgggg I am so excited - I am just sitting down to eat dinner and thought to myself "I wonder if ZM posted a video today?". Thank you for the new video bestie!!
No sympathy for Destiny, she took away Amber's smoothie joy
Feeling like Mr. Potato back there, passed out and done with the gorls nonsense 😴
ALR had people dming her details of Destiny's livestream, but didn't know Destiny was live? The lahhhs don't match
When she said “team destiny” like it was the Twilight saga, I choked a bit on my water LMAO
As someone who used to have many manipulative tendencies that stemmed from trauma and mental illness, hearing her use mental illness as an excuse for hurting people disgusted me. I wasn’t aware of those tendencies, until someone I love brought it to my attention and I almost lost that person. Once I was aware, I fought hard to fix the way I was behaving. I still have the same mental illnesses. 🙄
Thank you for doing God’s work on Earth Zach. I refuse to watch the actual livestreams but I wanted the tea so bad. ALR is going to be doing damage control on this for a minute. This will be the kind of thing she’s telling people to let go of months from now in Instagram Q&As.
Potato listening intently to his Dada is my favorite 🥰🥰🥰