The Dallas Fuel Paris Bunker Comp | Behind The Akshon
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2019
- Stage 2 of the Overwatch League saw the addition of not only a new hero in Baptiste but also Paris entering the competition map pool.
Initially, the game’s newest map was a mystery to both teams and viewers alike with no defined "meta" strategy set in stone. However, due to the geometry of the map objectives and proximity to the relative spawn points, most teams have opted into running an Orisa-Bastion-Baptiste bunker, which we covered in our previous episode.
Out of the twenty teams in the Overwatch League, the Dallas Fuel is a team, according to their assistant coach Jayne, has apparently put a lot of time into mastering the intricacies of this map.
After hours of planning and practice, the Dallas Fuel were able to harvest the fruits of their labor after devising a strategy with the non-conventional placement of their Baptiste bunker to catch unprepared teams like the Toronto Defiant off-guard.
UPDATE 06/08/2019: We would like to make a correction. The LA Gladiators were the first ones to run this composition on Paris in the Overwatch League during their Stage 2 Week 1 match against the Seoul Dynasty. According to Gladiators head coach Dpei, this composition was something that Surefour had in mind and through random iteration with the team ended up playing it on Paris.
Why have they done this, and is it better than the conventional position? We find out on this episode of Behind the Akshon.
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"emp nanoblade is a pretty good way to break cheese comps"
well, emp nanoblade is a pretty good way to break anything really
xd
Hudson Stroman jojo’s?
@@vicenteq6075 yeah jojo's
No matter where I go I cannot escape jojos
That’s enough to make me break my monitor☺️
_Rare footage of the Allies trying to take a German machine gun bunker in occupied France_ (Circa 1944 Colorized)
So Normandy?
It wasn’t just Normandy that was occupied by the axis OR the allies
I'm a year late but this comment is perfect for what this is!
Yes with a robot ninja, a genetically modified scientist, a robot horse, a dude with a floating lamp that makes people invincible
@@yackub3889 He did say *rare* footage.
"As the game's newest map..."
Havana: Am I a joke to you?
He meant newest maps in the pro lineup.
Havana is newer, but Paris is far more memorable in terms of just how agonizing it is to play on. Havana is as plain as can be tbh. Just another payload map, not bad, but not that amazing either.
Plus, as of Stage 2, I don't think Havana was up for pro play yet. We will probably see it in Stage 3.
I literally made this joke a second ago and now I'm crying
Yes, yes Havana is
That’s one thing is Dallas fan can be proud of
Masters of Bunker
but their 2 CP win rate is trash
@@kristapsgoatzingis2967 honestly... it's a miracle if they pull out a win on that gamemode. I wish they could be more competitive on it.
People on ladder are all masters of bunker its more braindead than goats
No clockwork vendetta are the masters of bunker
@@Nashtheminilegend ok sure, put them up against any owl team lol
2017 dive
2018 goats
2019 bunker
Overwatch will never get out of the meta swamp again.
Nah just went on owl for a random check almost all the twitch vods are goats
The name's make sense but they are all so weird.
2020 Mei
2020 bans
Thank you for your feedback, everyone! As others have pointed out, we'd like to clarify that while Havana is the newest map in the game, Paris is the most recent map to be added to OWL.
They might have not full hold, but it sure as hell was one of the most fun comps in stage 2.
Dw you're gonna get bored of bunker in stage 3
How is that a fun comp? They just sit in a corner and spam and hope that the enemy doesn't have an answer, it's way more boring than goats, it's just interesting to see, what comps the enemy runs to counter it.
>Bunker
>Fun
Pick one.
@@Lazyy97 Both
Bunker and fun don’t go together, I think you were high while writing this.
You used the Hollywood greenscreen again? Lol
Its smart
"Newest map"
Cries in Havana
EpIC ZeRoZz newest map in OWL?
Amazing content. You guys are the gold standard for esports content we are shooting for.
Seriously. This is the kind of thing I was missing when Blitz Esports stopped making videos. Their Overwatch analysis videos were top tier and this is filling the void that they left in my life. Thank you, Akshon.
Gladiators also used the bunker comp in that area to great effect against Seoul
Mad respect for all the dos2 music you guys use in your videos.
I think the titans position next to point is pretty good too. They put their toes on point whenever needed to contest even in 5v6 scenarios.
great video. i love your new editing techniques! keep it up!!
I’d love to see how Kolorblind feels about the new meta
All vids analyzing a comp with bastion is the ones I click immediatley 👌🏻
Are you the Bastion of your team's bunker comps? :^)
Your videos are so well made
Do you think that we will continue to see more Bunker comps heading into OWL Stage 3?
Akshon Esports likely
*PERHAPS*
maybe
Also, it’s called the “Firestarter Bunker” personally
I fuckin hope not
Thanks for the video! Learned a lot from this. Keep it up!
Bunker: exists
SNOATS: am I a joke to you?
Behind the Akshon based on Dallas Fuel, dreams do come true. :)
This is some high tier production
I don’t play Overwatch.
But I love this content.
Simple, understandable, and fun.
Finally a Dallas video
This is the best channel that exist
OGE's bubbles are on point
Oh, it's very good quality right there
funny that is my favorite torbjørn turret location that high catwalk protects the team in the usual place and whoever is on point ^^
edit: just put the turret there and leave it and play with the rest of the team backline turret
Bunker comp in a nutshell:
Orisa: pew pew sheeld
Baptiste: pewpew heel
Bastion: brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbbrbrbrbrbrbrbvrbrvrvrvvrvrvrvvrvrbrrbrbrbrbrbbrbrbrbrbbrbrbrbrbrbbrbrbrbrbrbrbbrb
I lost a game in overtime because of this video today. Thank you.
zachareee not being a liability pogchampion
I also enjoy hacking Daine 5:37 lol
Leviticus Howard *danye
@@bootneck9830 that's the joke....
Bootneck 98 bruh
bootneck 98 😂🤣
Akshon taking the old job of Blitz Esports, I love this kind of analytic content
Sparky14 passing of the torch has gone nicely.
Question at the end: in gm and maybe high master and in owl of course it’ll be used
cool to see bastion being used in pro play
im just happy to see dps in the meta again
Thanks for the video
Thanks for having Notifications on!
Akshon Esports TYSM and keep up the amazing work
I once won a game of Paris attack in 2 minutes and 23 seconds...
There was 14 seconds of contesting, and we got 3 team kills....
Good memories of this shite map....
it makes perfect sense bc of better angles
Btw d.va, echo, pharah, widow, ult mercy, maybe genji, maybe widow, maybe Winston and hanzo, can jump over the small building on the side. On the left from the first spawn.
Dude Overwatch is at it's best rn and it's only honna get better
Capper
7:13
that is the coolest primal rage I've ever seen lmaooo
he just yells and jumps off
I miss this map
Music used from divinity original sin 2 was not credited 🤔
i feel like it does too much to counteract the dive in the neutral fight but leaves even bigger glaring holes in the other weaknesses the comp had in the first place:
winston is mostly ran for the utility of isolating enemy winston from heals, since considering the enemy comp is mostly going to be low shield break, the bubble would generally lasts longer and covers more enclosed area in terms of blocking heals than defense matrix.
that really specialized form of protection does provide more value than d.va against a dive tanks engage, but all the other utility tha d.va potentially provides (like spychecking, screening areas with bomb) is going to be something you miss..
i see that they try to even out the value by stationing the bunker two jumps away (that lack of a less specialized, yet more consistent protection from the defense matrix vs the winston bubble is a tinier gap when engagements happen less frequently and takes a longer while to initiate, since consistency isn't as valuable considering all that.) primal rage could theoretically make up for the use if dva bomb to disrupt emp follow up, but it seems way harder since dva can hide and then throw and all the area is instantly screened, whereas winston needs to tank shots trying to disrupt with a hacked team that can't provide the usual amount of sustain that's required for a primal rage to be useful.
most cheese comps, even the default bunker, generally, there's a lot of really good value you're getting at the cost not really strong safety nets or consistency. d.va and rez, as well as the immortality were the small bits of safety and consistency that the general comp had, but with this comp, it seems to do away with those in favor of being able to deal with non-ult dives for longer amounts of time.
i think this comp is trying to accomplsih different things than the usual paris bunker you see around, because it's true that whatever disassembles the winston-orisa bunker would eventually have disassembled the other one anyways, and the way they're stationed and programmed to take dry engagements probably take more time off the clock without running the risk of an incredibly immaculate dive dissassembling the bunker in 15 seconds. orisa bunker comp is a comp built mostly to try and full hold, with little to no safety net in the case of an emp dive, whereas this tries to chip off more time in point a without pretending that there's going to be an emp headed this way eventually.
The allies barely pulled through with a last ditch attempt that included a dragon blade genji and a nano
its almost as if three ultimates from specialist heroes at once is powerful
Can we do a series of what happened to the original players of teams that got kicked off and replaced
@@inritus7193 just curious as to what happened to players from the original team that were never resigned
I found a way to flank around a bunker comp as hanzo or genji so
First you go out of spawn and then you keep going until that main route than on the building in the right you climb up the wall and then you dash or leap up and it should be enough to get you over the building and most people won’t notice you and you could just flank on the stair path that’s like a Levatated sidewalk and then most of the other team will freak out and try to get you and the rest of your team could move in whims the enemy team this mainly only works in like bronze and silver but you could still try it
Hey Akshon, the music credit isnt correct. The background soundstrack is from the OST from divinity and you credited a song from named Enemy
That was so frustrating
The choice for Winston is also to stall point
Gotta love that lucio music remix
Big brain jayne comp
Can you make a video about the Clockwork Vendetta comp?
Clockwork vendetta would never make it to main stage owl so In its current state it’s pointless, since Akshon does OWL content
But we like Clockwork Vendetta too :[
I like this comp more than a standard bunker due to Winston being able to cleave well at the choke points and to counter dive the back-line due to immortality being an insane tool for peeling so Matrix is less valuable than it was before Baptiste - especially with the nerf coming to it meaning the D.Va will have to commit to the peel closer than before. The last two slots are toss ups though, it could be uses to counter the enemies comps or to help against things like EMP Nano Blade (e.g triple support (something like Bap, Ana, Zen) and hide the backline away from the main bunker, the EMP will have to commit to either the main bunker or the backline and both can be punished if coordinated well enough)
Why can’t the attacking team capture the point when the bunker is in the special area?
The Winston can pretty safely contest point presence, and the bunker provides fire support to blow up anyone that comes to fight him. It's pretty much the same role a D.va would normally have in a bunker comp.
Thanks William Butler
I still don’t understand why you would run Ana instead of Mercy in a bunker. Bunker comps don’t take much damage anyway and with Baptiste/Mercy you’ll have plenty of heals. Plus it allows Mercy to damage boost the dps
Ana has just better kit than Mercy. Nade, sleep and nano is more meta than Mercy's boost, rez and valk.
Not much need for Mercy if there isn't a Pharah.
Mercy can boost Bastion and melt things 30% faster. Ana’s kit is better overall but Mercy just fits more into a bunker comp
Because you need to keep your Bastion alive when the enemy dives in. Therefore you need Ana's grenate and burst healing
Mercy's healing is too low
Yeah Mercy's healing is just too low.
I think the "unorthodox position" is alot better because it moves the choke and limits options. In the typical position, it is easy for Tracer, maybe even Reaper to flank and get behind the team. In the new position, it shifts the choke to in front of the shop and it opens the field of view so the team can see EVERY thing happening.
One of the biggest reasons for these new unorthodox positions is Baptiste. The immortality field can be placed inside the room, forcing the attacking team to wait it out or hard commit and feed. It usually also involves a nearby health pack that Baptiste can use to keep himself alive because his self-heal has a long cooldown.
i don't even play OVERWATCH but i like watching clips like this hahaha >.
I don’t get it ? Why not just play point and use those post as a shield and have a symmetra to use her shield wall on point so they can’t take damage and set up turrents on point ?
Because no one plays her. Which Im happy for. Because sometimes being good at a underrated hero will help you win because no one knows what to do
people hold me like this in quick play
My man called OGE O-G-E
Bunker comp really grinds my gears.... Especially when ur team is just walking in the choke and spams thanks Everytime they die.. yet they don't even communicate/focus fire on the bastin
I love that bastion is so deadly that a whole competitive pro team has to Nano blade and dogpile the bastion to kill it lol
Just ran this map in Quick Play with randoms, and was able to pull off this comp! The teammate playing Bastion saw I put my Orisia Sheild on the back side; instead of in the middle where he was. We didn't have a Baptiste, but our Mercy also knew where to go; as she followed the Bastion. At first; the Bastion looked like he was going to move, but stayed put. It paid off big time; as the enemy team couldn't touch the point with some of our team on the High Ground and Bastion and me on the opposite side; while Mercy moved from group to group keeping up heals. It wasn't the full Dallas Bunker Comp, but it worked just the same!
Good Vid👌
I love these
Did you forget my main map Havana
0:04
Lul
New to OWL last season, probably was made before havana released
Paris is just like Temple Of Anubis but mirrored
I did this exact scenario today! I was Symmetra and we just had to capture one point of Hanamura, and they were Bastion. So I went around with Sym tp not as professional though. Sad that my enemies probably didn't see this video
Edit: Oops I thought this was the video where it shows the TP being used to beat the Bunker Comp. my bad
This my second season and I’ve never actually played against goats but I’ve ran against bunker comp too many times to count
I'm a year late but why not just do roadhouse too? Just put enough dps into the shield before Orisa can put a new one then roadhog can hook bastion out of sentry form and into the enemy team.
"And then Dallas failed more than they did last season"
RIP .....
What a good video
Excelent video
i guarantee if i tried this in mm the other team would simply walk past us to the point and cap it
Some gm 6 stack should read to gm bunker only. On both attack and defense
I think Jjonak and Dafran have the passive ability to debuff all other players of the match and ML7 and OGE the passive ability to buff their team mates capabilities.
Toronto could of just go past them and cap the point right?
Bastion does 450 hitscan DPS. So yeah, they could have, but it would be really hard.
lol ? saw this strat since day 1 on Paris but I guess someone as to find a use for Jayne
Id also say Lucios or hanzos ult would be a good pick
I bet those 7 People Who still plays overwatch must be having a blast.
It fills the TF2 void, so yeah.
0:03 Paris isn't the newest on time of upload
DALLAS FUEL YES I bought the junkrat skin for DF because they're my favourites
Maginot Line 2: Electric Boogaloo
Dane is my favorite sombra in the league
Ironic how the eternal were beat by the fuel on Paris
Longer fights, fewer angles to be attacked, how is this bunker worse than the usual Paris bunker again?
Trinston was here. ..
Me see’s the Toronto placing down a Valiant spray: *wait thats illegal* 3:22
It's sad orisa took reins place in most bunker strats
Wow finally something that's not goats that's new
If you're going to issue a correction to the creation of this comp at the bottom of the video info, why does the title still credit the fuel as the creators when it was LA Gladiators that came up with it?
Does anyone know how to get the health numbers to be displayed one by one? Idk how to word it but just look at when someone gets healed like at 3:27
"So this makes it so that they can't heal besides healing" ???
I havent played overwatch in a while, but wouldn't sombra cappibg the point force the bunker team to essentially play in a way that forces them to change their strategy?
Not really. Sombra needs to be visible to cap the point in her current state. So OGE can jump on her as Winston and force her to just translocate back to safety. Rinse and repeat, and then Sombra only lost her team's time instead of addressing the real problem.
Sombra can't cap if she is invisible. And a Pharah rocket or even one hit from Ana or Jump from Winston would force her to fuck off immediately. So yeah, in comp, when Orisa is the only one keeping track of the objective, it can work. Against a team that plan for someone to constanly rotate on objective as needed? No.
Also, it is very common to give up one or two ticks in pro games. If they pressure Sombra at the right times and give up the ticks, as long as they can capture the first point on attack, it doesn't make any difference if Sombra is focusing on trying to cap the point.
@@pickyraccoon wow yall explained it really well. Thank you.
Now we know the best comp on this map is electing someone the queue dodge so nobody has to play on Paris.
I never understood why they Removed paris
too easy to capture the second point
why would they not take a widow to get a long range pick on the supports? The bastion damage would be less effective from range and pharah rockets could be stopped by an orisa or winston