@@trankhoa5248 This patch they gave him an absurd duration to his W attack speed; mainly in lane, but in jungle too, you could attack a low minion or monster, get the full ASpd and use to trade with other champions, while they were full health, kinda of "transfering" the buff to other enemies. Now, with the hotfix, they set the duration lower making it much more tame, although it's still usable for top WW.
you said Udyr is a champion that wants to fight you early game, I watch a lot of challenger Udyr one tricks and they all seem to insist that he's a lategame scaling champion. I tried looking at statistics but the numbers are all over the place. do you think he scales well?
Is this a tier list specific to high elo? Ultimately, the data doesn't lie. In low ELO (Iron to Gold) Briar had a win rate hovering around close to 54%! Personally, I picked up Briar and I have been stomping a decent percentage of my games (high silver/low gold). Currently sitting at 70% win rate over 23 games, which I find to be crazy. Of course, the data also shows that as you get into higher ELOs, Briar sees much less success. The same can be said about Skarner, except the inverse. In low ELO, Skarner has had a low win rate hovering around 45% over the last, at least, 10 patches. Then again, you look at Emerald+ and it's the complete opposite. Skarner has had anywhere from 51% to 56% win rate in higher ELOs. I think I have a decent understanding of how Skarner works, as I played him a good amount as well. Often times, I would make an insane play (at least it felt insane to me in my silver lobbies 😅) with a ridiculous engage and my team just didn't know how to follow up, or they simply didn't follow up at all lol. Definitely different vibes in low ELO, though I do believe you can find success with any champion. Even if it might be harder on one champ versus the next. Anywho, thanks for the tier list. I still think there's a lot to take away from this video regardless of ELO. 👍
the examples you used are perfect honestly and you're 100% correct! there are some champs with crossover, imo Elise and Diana, both are good in low elo and high elo (assuming you can pilot the champion fairly well, as elise does have a higher skill ceiling) .... but like you said with skarner, most of the time people just dont follow up? For lower elo the pattern i see more is picking champs with more solo agency, champs that allow you to play more selfish, eliminating somewhat the unreliability of your team, its the opposite for high elo, where you'll pick champs based on their kits, synergies and sacrifice that solo agency for maybe more CC or other group utility where your teammates theoretically are more better at in-game micro and macro.
Honestly, even though I main Talon in the jg, I understand the nerf, his clear was pretty fast and allowed him to move more, even though I wouldn't want riot to remove him completely from the jungle, it's quite fun more than mid talon
hi sinerias! great vid, i mostly play viego and have been looking to play another champ who has such a uniquely well rounded kit and are useful in both 1v1s and teamfghts. Anyone you'd recommend? I don't want to spend time learning a super high skill ceiling champ as I've already got Viego for that!. Thank you :)
Teemo jungle is really fun. One of the many reasons of this is that his shrooms are much better when going jungle. It's great to place some shrooms for your laners so they take use of them later and get kills they wouldn't have get without them. And you get many random assists.
What changes you think would make crit Yi as viable as on-hit while not making him just an assassin instead of a carry ? I'd personally give Double strike extra damage the more crit you had, until it became a full second AA with 100% critical chance, or his E extra damage with crit, somthing like 1 point of damage per 2 crit, focusing more on DPS rather than burst and making itens like Navori and PD better than just building full damage.
He's squishier with that build so he can't survive long enough to do the damage. That's why the bruiser build has remained on top. It's not the damage output which is still good it's the lack of life steal and additional magic damage making pen items less necessary
You need to say what this is meant for...clearly that is Master+ at least maybe Chall. If you consider all ranks its looking very different. For example Udyr is the clear rank 1 and Rengar is unplayable...if you filter by all ranks.
as a lillia main, any tips or other picks? I tried belvet but I dont like that she doesn't really frontline and I feel I just do a lot of damage with lillia. Also I recently played naafiri jg, kiting your camps is kind of tricky but she clears very well, once you have 1 or 2 items you destroy camps with Q and your W is a very good engage, she also has great 1v1 with eclipse and Q, I think it's a great pick jg but she's a little odd
You did not mention my personal favorites in the jungle Garen, Yorick and Tryndamere. I play all three in the jungle and do well. What is your opinion on Garen, Yorick and Tryndamere jungle ? Atleast say what tier they are please. Also if Master Yi jungle works, how does Tryndamere jungle not ?
I’ve been trying to make hecarim work for quite a while, but the champion is simply too weak imo. He needs to be at least 1 item ahead to do something, and he should scale well but in reality he just gets oneshot in late game teamfights. I wonder why riot won’t buff him when he is only playable in jungle role
I'd much rather blue get more ease of use than just damage. Things like make his Q go out faster (not just in blue, but in general), make his no-form and red W go out faster, make him able to get out further after ulting. Currently he just feels clunky at most parts of the game rather than not dealing damage.
Why does Kayn need a buff? A champ being B tier is fine, surely Briar and Eve orany champ at C or below are the ones that actually need a buff. Kayn has no reason to be buffed to be pushed to A or S
Sad to see evelyn being so weak right now i really love playing her. Do you think i am able to climb all the way to diamond otping her? It's my goal before the season resets lol
Depends if ur good on her or no, u pretty much have to smurf or hard carry everygame otherwise she's not worth over another jgler. Im 75% wr in diamond on 30 games, she doesnt feel that weak, but i dont think she's worth above high master, she's just niche and cheesy. All depends on how much time u put in learning her, as a champ there are better AP assassins rn, but if its your best champ then yes u can def reach diamond with her. People always tilt and troll against her
People just don't understand that crit build is supposed to be a situational option against certain team comps, not a replacement for on-hit . On-hit is still the best in most games
so briar is D tier ? how she is strong and can stomp in low elo she is even fine in high elo you can even see logan i am dissapointed nothing fun to play in these S tier except viego
Problem is if you know how to counter briar she could be hella useless even if you’re over millions of mastery into her. She only has one playstyle but yes she has great first to second item powerspikes but if we’re comparing her to the A tier junglers like shaco, yi, wukong, graves, even belveth who all have first item powerspikes with better survivability and somewhat counters her kit is really bad for her in the meta state.
Briar took me to emerald 2, i know she's useless ok grandmaster and challenger, but in lower elos is tier A+, you main yi so, this tierlist is useless, every server is different, briar is b on korea but nidalee is b here and she is s+ in korea, not every tierlist works
Warwick is Z Tier right now. We are talking after the hotfix nerfs LOL
when he getting nerfed i need to abuse this to get to bronze
At least you tried lmao unplayable on Lulu :)
What neft ?
@@trankhoa5248 This patch they gave him an absurd duration to his W attack speed; mainly in lane, but in jungle too, you could attack a low minion or monster, get the full ASpd and use to trade with other champions, while they were full health, kinda of "transfering" the buff to other enemies. Now, with the hotfix, they set the duration lower making it much more tame, although it's still usable for top WW.
@@henriquecesar8859 so it go from 2 second to 1 ?
Bro did dirty with my Briar :( Clearly you seem to not understand how the champ works so get your shit corrected. I Carry games with her.
fr, really disappointing
briar mains we must rebel
you said Udyr is a champion that wants to fight you early game, I watch a lot of challenger Udyr one tricks and they all seem to insist that he's a lategame scaling champion. I tried looking at statistics but the numbers are all over the place. do you think he scales well?
he scales well as tank udyr. some champions do outscale him tho. his biggest strengh is his stat checking on his kit. thats why he perma fights early
Please keep doing these for each patch or every other, they are actually really interesting to watch
Is this a tier list specific to high elo? Ultimately, the data doesn't lie. In low ELO (Iron to Gold) Briar had a win rate hovering around close to 54%! Personally, I picked up Briar and I have been stomping a decent percentage of my games (high silver/low gold). Currently sitting at 70% win rate over 23 games, which I find to be crazy. Of course, the data also shows that as you get into higher ELOs, Briar sees much less success.
The same can be said about Skarner, except the inverse. In low ELO, Skarner has had a low win rate hovering around 45% over the last, at least, 10 patches. Then again, you look at Emerald+ and it's the complete opposite. Skarner has had anywhere from 51% to 56% win rate in higher ELOs. I think I have a decent understanding of how Skarner works, as I played him a good amount as well. Often times, I would make an insane play (at least it felt insane to me in my silver lobbies 😅) with a ridiculous engage and my team just didn't know how to follow up, or they simply didn't follow up at all lol.
Definitely different vibes in low ELO, though I do believe you can find success with any champion. Even if it might be harder on one champ versus the next.
Anywho, thanks for the tier list. I still think there's a lot to take away from this video regardless of ELO. 👍
the examples you used are perfect honestly and you're 100% correct! there are some champs with crossover, imo Elise and Diana, both are good in low elo and high elo (assuming you can pilot the champion fairly well, as elise does have a higher skill ceiling) .... but like you said with skarner, most of the time people just dont follow up?
For lower elo the pattern i see more is picking champs with more solo agency, champs that allow you to play more selfish, eliminating somewhat the unreliability of your team, its the opposite for high elo, where you'll pick champs based on their kits, synergies and sacrifice that solo agency for maybe more CC or other group utility where your teammates theoretically are more better at in-game micro and macro.
Gwen is one of the highest winrate jg and scales extremely well. Idk why it’s not A or S
Honestly, even though I main Talon in the jg, I understand the nerf, his clear was pretty fast and allowed him to move more, even though I wouldn't want riot to remove him completely from the jungle, it's quite fun more than mid talon
Idk if you will see this but what mic do you use? Is that Maono pd 400x or A Shure mic? It's very good
Who’s best two trick to pair with Diana? Same question for Mundo. Low Elo.
Been watching for over a year now, went from bronze to gold just watching you execute fundamental, thank you for all you do!
what do you think about taric jungle?
hi sinerias! great vid, i mostly play viego and have been looking to play another champ who has such a uniquely well rounded kit and are useful in both 1v1s and teamfghts. Anyone you'd recommend? I don't want to spend time learning a super high skill ceiling champ as I've already got Viego for that!. Thank you :)
ww has 58% wr how is he tier B
Indeed he should be S tier
@@sinerias1229i was super confused until i saw this
Wheres fidel?
Teemo jungle is really fun. One of the many reasons of this is that his shrooms are much better when going jungle. It's great to place some shrooms for your laners so they take use of them later and get kills they wouldn't have get without them. And you get many random assists.
That's a really cool idea bro, can't wait to try Teemo jungle.
i faced multiple teemo jungler and they are super annoying to deal with
You are mad. I tell you, mad!!!!
Teemo jungle feels so natural, it fits the champion theme, id rather play with a teemo jungle than a teemo solo lane
What changes you think would make crit Yi as viable as on-hit while not making him just an assassin instead of a carry ? I'd personally give Double strike extra damage the more crit you had, until it became a full second AA with 100% critical chance, or his E extra damage with crit, somthing like 1 point of damage per 2 crit, focusing more on DPS rather than burst and making itens like Navori and PD better than just building full damage.
He's squishier with that build so he can't survive long enough to do the damage. That's why the bruiser build has remained on top. It's not the damage output which is still good it's the lack of life steal and additional magic damage making pen items less necessary
You need to say what this is meant for...clearly that is Master+ at least maybe Chall. If you consider all ranks its looking very different. For example Udyr is the clear rank 1 and Rengar is unplayable...if you filter by all ranks.
Why do you prefer brand or morgana over karthus? Doesn't karthus out tempo and out damage them?
No and both of them have cc
What about malphite?or trindamere
secret pick. sion. good clear. clears grubs easily. 2 hard cc for ganks. slow shreds armor for your adc. moderately tanky. has disengage
Really nice video. Good game knowledge. Would like more said on the top 4 champions!
as a lillia main, any tips or other picks? I tried belvet but I dont like that she doesn't really frontline and I feel I just do a lot of damage with lillia.
Also I recently played naafiri jg, kiting your camps is kind of tricky but she clears very well, once you have 1 or 2 items you destroy camps with Q and your W is a very good engage, she also has great 1v1 with eclipse and Q, I think it's a great pick jg but she's a little odd
Udyr is so good and has a lot of Lilia vibes, u should try it
You did not mention my personal favorites in the jungle Garen, Yorick and Tryndamere. I play all three in the jungle and do well. What is your opinion on Garen, Yorick and Tryndamere jungle ? Atleast say what tier they are please. Also if Master Yi jungle works, how does Tryndamere jungle not ?
Elise flowchart:
Can you go to Narnia? -> Broken OP.
Can you not go to Narnia? -> You're useless.
I’ve been trying to make hecarim work for quite a while, but the champion is simply too weak imo. He needs to be at least 1 item ahead to do something, and he should scale well but in reality he just gets oneshot in late game teamfights. I wonder why riot won’t buff him when he is only playable in jungle role
Is this only focused on NA or on all servers because evelynn in euw emerald is shown as S tier?
Sinerias comes from Germany not so he plays on euw
Austria not Germany ;)@@rudidaud289
@ i get that but in his video his search for the champions he is checking NA servers not EUW hence my question 😅
Briar is A tier at least, but you're all not ready for that conversation
let me guess ur plat?
Sett jungle is great some games, and it's really fun as a jungler aswell. Very playmaker style.
In my opinion Taliyah is S tier jungler. I pushed my friends account from bronze to emerald 2 in about 15 days. On my main account i pushed to D4!
how do you build diana if enemy has tanks
Botrk black clever titanic then tanky
"EvErY jUnGlEr CaN dO bEtTeR tHaN bRiAr - puts her straight to D tier" obviously a hater
@@FreePalestine-ms7qpwait what really? An ad bruiser build?
Kayn needs at least 20-30% armor pen on Rhaast and Blue needs a bit more magic damage
I'd much rather blue get more ease of use than just damage. Things like make his Q go out faster (not just in blue, but in general), make his no-form and red W go out faster, make him able to get out further after ulting. Currently he just feels clunky at most parts of the game rather than not dealing damage.
you said something about a guy playing sylas jungle,does he have a youtube channel?
MrChrysis you can dm him on Discord on the Discord Server
I would love regular tierlists.
nice! would love a support tier list :)
What tier would you put jax as a top laner
C tier unless you one trick.
Why does Kayn need a buff? A champ being B tier is fine, surely Briar and Eve orany champ at C or below are the ones that actually need a buff. Kayn has no reason to be buffed to be pushed to A or S
Sad to see evelyn being so weak right now i really love playing her. Do you think i am able to climb all the way to diamond otping her? It's my goal before the season resets lol
Depends if ur good on her or no, u pretty much have to smurf or hard carry everygame otherwise she's not worth over another jgler. Im 75% wr in diamond on 30 games, she doesnt feel that weak, but i dont think she's worth above high master, she's just niche and cheesy. All depends on how much time u put in learning her, as a champ there are better AP assassins rn, but if its your best champ then yes u can def reach diamond with her. People always tilt and troll against her
Looks like Karasmais version of the Voltaic kayn build does fine
I think yi Q buffs are legit bait the champ winrate actually dropped like 4% after the Q buff cuz ppl got baited into trying the crit build
I said the same thing 😂 nailed it. Looks like the crit build does less burst than an on hit build
People just don't understand that crit build is supposed to be a situational option against certain team comps, not a replacement for on-hit . On-hit is still the best in most games
@@Garfield_Osu what some people don’t understand is that the crit build still isn’t viable at all.
@@tyson1954 Skill issue I fear
@@Garfield_Osu knowledge gap
how does eve not do enough damage? I don't understand...she always one shots everyone if she lands charm.
so briar is D tier ? how she is strong and can stomp in low elo she is even fine in high elo you can even see logan i am dissapointed nothing fun to play in these S tier except viego
In low elo she is indeed stronger than the tierlist says. that is my bad, wasnt sure about that
real man, briar is so good. Snowballing with her is fun as hell. Also hitting those long distance ults is soo satisfying
Problem is if you know how to counter briar she could be hella useless even if you’re over millions of mastery into her. She only has one playstyle but yes she has great first to second item powerspikes but if we’re comparing her to the A tier junglers like shaco, yi, wukong, graves, even belveth who all have first item powerspikes with better survivability and somewhat counters her kit is really bad for her in the meta state.
@@sinerias1229 bro get your shit together. Putting her straight to D? Cmon that is bs tier list.
Natulas Jungle?
shyvanna is very strong in low elo still, I think you underestimate her
Graves - Auto attack q and you are at 50% hp i dont know about that..... Must be an adc 2 levels downs against a fed graves.
Sad to see Evelynn so bad.
Briar took me to emerald 2, i know she's useless ok grandmaster and challenger, but in lower elos is tier A+, you main yi so, this tierlist is useless, every server is different, briar is b on korea but nidalee is b here and she is s+ in korea, not every tierlist works
Interested in this please
@sinerias, how is your list so different from this list: ua-cam.com/video/ESgithSB4zs/v-deo.html
NICE VIDEO :D WHY YOU DON´T SAY NOTHING ABOUT VIEGO CHEERS
I’m Evelyn main and I can tell she need nerf 😂
Playing meta is gay
did he not talk about viego at all? just put him in Z tier and talked about diana :D
Viego is ultra broken needless to talk