My husband and I really would have loved to have seen you turn that into a silver bar or whatever you made from that. Great video! Your voice was calm and informative. Thank you . Hope to see more of your work, but with a melted finished piece.
Very informative but I couldn't get past the gloveless hands. Especially handling the condensed Nitric acid. 1. Ventilation 2. Eye protection 3. Gloves 4. Apron
Nice.. I worked in a metal company way back 2007, we refined Ag. I was assigned in electrolysing Ag .then in melting... As far as I can remembered we used salt and sugar...every time I tell my story to my Friend's they laughs...
using salt and sugar is the way you create elemental silver. salt (sodium chloride) to precipitate silver chloride. Lye (sodium hydroxide) to create silver oxide, and sugar or corn syrup to convert silver oxide to elemental silver. .999 purity
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I'm a silver nut just like everyone else watching this video, but I bet he could have sold some of those pieces for more money than their scrap silver value. I realize that some of the pieces were just scrap, but others were sellable to antique collectors, just saying.
You are correct some of the pieces that I have recycled are probably worth more sold as is. I have noticed that unless you're antique sterling silver is perfect (dent and scratch free) you won't get much more than the scrap value. You will also have to wait for someone to come around that is looking for the piece you are selling. I purchase all of my sterling silver as scrap at a discounted price. So I generally end up dissolving everything that my wife doesn't want.
How do you get silver off of your hands? I guess picking up the coffee filter left stain on my fingers. Any gloves that are ok to use? I heard not to use nitrile? Does steel added to your copper solution in the end precip your copper or which metal? Great video, thanks! I have lots of silver powder to melt :)
Try using ammonia to remove the silver nitrate stains from your hand. You can use a piece of iron to drop your copper out of solution. I am happy you enjoyed the video 🤗
How much actual silver did you end up with after the melt? Did you refine it again after melt to get closer to the 99.999? You left a lot of questions open great video but a lot of questions.
That's a good question 😂 I actually just added that silver powder to a batch of silver powder from another batch. Then I melted it into silver shot. Then I put it through my electrolytic silver cell. Then I usually end up pouring 100 troy ounce bars from the silver crystal.
Hello impressive video lots of knowledge. I am First timer and made a mess of mine, used 65% nitric acid, over shot the solution without knowing and added Cooper pipe into it, pipe has disolved partially. Now question is there a way of separating silver from copper which desolved in solution? Thanks in advance
Just keep adding copper. Eventually you will consume all of your nitric acid. It takes four times as much nitric acid to dissolve copper as it does silver. Once all the nitric acid has been consumed the copper will start displacing the silver. Once all the silver has fallen out of solution you should be able to rinse the copper away with tap water. Any remaining copper or pmg's will be removed upon further purification in a silver electrolytic cell.
If chemistry had been presented like this when I was at school ,there would be a lot more scientists in the world today 😊. Thank you , who thought chemistry could be so captivating . 😊
Check out sreetips channel: ua-cam.com/users/sreetips He refines precious metals as well. He made an electrolytic silver cell out of a stainless steel bowl that grows _extremely_ pure silver crystals. He also does a lot of gold refining which is just as fascinating as the silver. It's a great channel if your in to this kind of thing. He also won't make you wait 3 years for the second part of the video.
The foils and other remnant metals from the nitric dissolve are easily recovered from a quick round of Aqua Regia... The shortcoming is of course, the time and energy for such small amounts of precious metals, probably as you surmised PGMs.
I enjoyed the video, but I have to say, the viewer wants to see the silver melted and poured. Far too many leave out the final melt and pour which really is the best part? It’s the reward for all your work.
Yes, it would appear as though the wildlife has suffered around my residence. But, I am not convinced that I am to blame for the mass deaths. Some of the squirrels have gone hair and toothless. They just sit there and look at you. I'm not an evolutionary biologist but this could actually be a good thing. None of the other surviving animals are eating them. I think the squirrels problem is poor genetics and bad sunlight🤢 That is what probably caused the mutations and deaths. It has nothing to do with the constant toxic fumes being expelled from my lab🤨🤔Thanks, I am happy you enjoyed the video 🤗😀
I use a slow filter paper. I use distilled water because it does not contain any chlorine. Chlorine will react with the silver nitrate to form silver chloride. a white chalk like substance that will clog your filter paper.
enjoyed the video, but like most other videos on dissolving 925/sterling jewelry, etc....no one gives a timeline...i.e...how long for the scraps to completely dissolve? how long does it take to precipitate the solution with copper?....just curious...hours, days, ???
It took about six hours to dissolve the silver then I let it cool overnight. it took about six hours to fully precipitate the silver but I let it soak overnight to be sure all the silver had dropped.
Would it work just as well to melt down the sterling silver first into a bar and then go through the chem refining to melt it back down or would a big chunk be immediately too reactive?
It starts to crash out immediately. Depending on how much silver is dissolved in the solution. It could take between 4 and 12 hours. There are other factors in play. If the copper gets completely coated with silver crystal it will stop crashing out. So you need to periodically refresh your copper. Once you no longer see crystal's forming on the copper. The silver is out of solution.
Hi Philip, I have a question! as soon as I disolved the plated silver and I filtered the very dark green solution left, in order to neutralise the acidity of it I aded some normal bicorbonate and the liquid turned in a light blue solution!! I added the copper coil but nothing hapened apart of turning the solution in a green liquid again.... big disaster!!! how can I get my silver back??? thank you for the video
If you dissolve silver plate using this method. There will be very little silver in solution it will mostly be base metals. Try again using solid Sterling silver.
Hello. How much amount of nitric acid is needed for 1 kg for silver jewellery (70% purity) and how much amount of distilled water is needed before adding copper plates?
Unfortunately copper nitrate isn't very useful in the home. It's mostly used in commercial applications as a dye or antifungal agent. I generally add sodium hydroxide to my copper nitrate Solutions to form copper hydroxide. I then filter off the copper hydroxide then I melt it into copper.
One that I built. It is in the corner of my underground bunker / lab. There are many rooms down here. The lab was part of stage 3 of the build. The 1st part of the build contains a Winnebago that I buried at the beginning of the project. That is where I sleep and produce my UA-cam videos. Stage 2 is a bunch of old shipping containers that I buried in the same path for food storage. I should probably start work on stage 4 soon. A proper shower and laundry room. At the moment I only clean up with single use alcohol swabs. Then I wear my clothes for 3 days before donating them to good will and buying new ones. In the end I predict it will be cheaper just to build the rooms.
I usually dissolve sterling silver in 1000 g batches. It usually takes about 1 l of nitric acid to dissolve the 1,000 g. So during the process sometimes the mixture will get a little acidic 😌 but in the end it is all reduced to a nearly neutral state. I always overshoot the silver as the extraction is wrapping up.
Pyrex is a brand name. I am using scientific glass from China 😀 It's the same glass, I'm sure Pyrex has a better quality control. But as a rule of thumb you want to use scientific glass in the lab.
Is there a good place to buy a set up of beakers and pumps/vacuums and other items needed for this process as well as the gold refining process in your other video? Ps: you do excellent videos. Your teaching style is concise and to the point, making it very easy to take notes and follow along. Thanks for making this content! This is the knowledge the big boys don’t want us regular folk to obtain.
Yes eBay. Just search gold fingers to find the scrap.lab glass kits for the other stuff. You can even get whatever chemicals you might need. Happy you enjoyed the video 🤗 😀
@@philipbender956 I wonder what the manufacturers of PMC ( Precious Metal Clay) use. Something that bakes away clean without residue allowing the metals to fuse. Don't think that's epoxy, but what do I know?
I have a small suitcase full of sterling silver knives, forks and spoons dating way from my grandmother. I wish I could find someone who would melt it down into nuggets!
I have a piece that says Sterling weighted on the bottom of it. It is a candle holder if it's solid silver I should be able to melt it down in a crucible right. I don't think it is plated
The copper is extracted when I neutralize my silver waste solutions. I usually don't keep the extracted copper. Because it needs to be melted down and I don't want to contaminate any of my crucibles or furnace.
extracting the copper is relatively easy, buy a bunch of SS dinerware (preferably butter knives) from the local second hand or thrift shop and purt the in the copper nitrate solution. the copper will cement on to them. you can also use regular steel in you effluent catch bucket and it will create a ferrous nitrate solution and drive all copper, and pgm's out of solution if there are any
Hey Philip. I watched your video a few times and gave this a shot with my son. Everything has worked as you showed so far, except I have some sort of clearish crystal flake after dissolving all of the silver. It is soluble in water, so I don't believe it's silver chloride (I used distilled for everything). Any thoughts?
No, just a video on how to make concentrated nitric acid. if you want to purify your nitric acid you need to re distill it and bubble oxygen through it.
@@faisalhayat23 I don't bother trying to recover nitric acid or copper. The acid is very dilute and the copper is very contaminated with other metals such as iron and lead. The process may be cheap but it also costs time and energy.
@@philipbender956 🤔 I dont know what that is either. I dont do gold and silver recovery. I just like to watch the videos. So, it's all foreign terms to me. Thank you for answering. Even ithough my ignoranc, on the subject, has me, still not knowing, at least you politely tried. 😁👍🏻
Will this method remove iron impurities from the silver? I have a large amount of sterling filings and sawdust. It contains bits of steel from the saw and files. I’ve removed much of it using a strong magnet but enough remains to contaminate any ingots that I make from melting it. Thank you in advance. Your video is very well down.
Unfortunately he forgot you do not get 99.999% pure silver for first run nitric acid and sterling it takes at least 4 runs first run is only maybe 96 to 97 % using 4.6 volt refining several times using a stainless steel container
Thank you. The silver I obtained from this method is around %99.900. ln part 2 of this video I will be showing the difference in brightness between this silver and the factory minted silver. As I melt all the silver cement down into silver shot. In part 3 of this video I will be constructing a silver cell in order to produce %99.999 silver Crystal.
@@danvandertorre6349 The voltage does not affect purity. Voltage will only affect the size and speed of crystal growth. What will affect purity is the concentration of copper in your electrolyte. Or if you produced your electrolyte with an impure source of silver. (Silver contaminated with PGM) I recommend purchasing minted silver to make your electrolyte. I started my cell with a 10 oz bar I purchased off of eBay.
I don't bother with the platinum test. There should only be trace amounts present if that. Also at such low concentrations it bonds with the silver making it virtually impossible to separate without electrolysis.
He dissolved Sterling silver articles which are .925 or better silver . The gold came in trace amounts from the original sterling that was made. A trace by-product of the mining process of the silver.
OMFG those foil pieces will be palladium and vanadium, they predominantly only spray it on silver jewellery to give it more shine but sure as shit It would be on upper crust sterling silver too
I have not had a chance to play with any x-ray developing solution🙁 Sounds like it would make an interesting video. I have seen x-rays recycled but that was after they were already developed and most of the silver had been washed away. I bet the developing solution contains quite a large amount.
@@philipbender956 Thanks for your reply. It definitely does contain a bunch of it. I'd love to see how you made your fume hood! :) not many people using wet developing now, most gone digital. Snap it up while you can! I'm in NZ, so prob not ideal for you! x
How did people figure this out? One day someone says ...hmmm, if I add this to this, it will melt, blow up etc ... lol. Woman brain here, I would never think of something like this out in the wild lol. I feel a strong desire to go shopping for pretty silver things to wear ... 🤪. Cool video though. ☺️
My husband and I really would have loved to have seen you turn that into a silver bar or whatever you made from that. Great video! Your voice was calm and informative. Thank you . Hope to see more of your work, but with a melted finished piece.
Very beautiful and detailed process... it really need a lot of time and information and tools to get it done accurately and safely... you rock
I love Watching precious metal refinery and your voice is so calming it's like a hypnotist
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Best Tutorial I have seen so far on 925 purification, Thankyou!
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I love how you explain the reaction and mention even the smallest details.
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Very informative but I couldn't get past the gloveless hands. Especially handling the condensed Nitric acid.
1. Ventilation
2. Eye protection
3. Gloves
4. Apron
Wtf.... this is SO AWESOME..... THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO...
Step by step explaining every action in each step helps a ton.good video thank you
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I really like your videos. There all so informative. Thank you.
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Your videos are very well explained and thorough. And you explain a lot of “why’s” that others don’t. Thank you!
this guy knows how to talk! slow, calm and collective! good learning
Ahh the lost art of silver recovery cheers mate
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Nice.. I worked in a metal company way back 2007, we refined Ag. I was assigned in electrolysing Ag .then in melting... As far as I can remembered we used salt and sugar...every time I tell my story to my Friend's they laughs...
We also used polymer resins, caustic soda flakes
Currently working in silver plating company
U talk a load of shit mate
using salt and sugar is the way you create elemental silver. salt (sodium chloride) to precipitate silver chloride. Lye (sodium hydroxide) to create silver oxide, and sugar or corn syrup to convert silver oxide to elemental silver. .999 purity
Wow your the man amazing thanks for sharing your talent thanks again please keep making videos i can't stop watching you
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@@philipbender956 hi Phil do you know when you will be making another stunning video again we can't wait
@@catfish4729 I hope to have some time off soon.
@@philipbender956 where is part two?
Excellent video! Please make Part 2
You are truly an alchemical magician my friend. Wow.
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MELT THE SILVER!!!!
HE LEFT OUT THE BEST PART!!! wtf
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Are you planning to make part 2, the melt into a bar? Awesome video!
That was incredible. Makes me wish I paid more attention in Chem back in my school days. Well done man
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I'm a silver nut just like everyone else watching this video, but I bet he could have sold some of those pieces for more money than their scrap silver value. I realize that some of the pieces were just scrap, but others were sellable to antique collectors, just saying.
You are correct some of the pieces that I have recycled are probably worth more sold as is. I have noticed that unless you're antique sterling silver is perfect (dent and scratch free) you won't get much more than the scrap value. You will also have to wait for someone to come around that is looking for the piece you are selling. I purchase all of my sterling silver as scrap at a discounted price. So I generally end up dissolving everything that my wife doesn't want.
Philip Bender can you do a video on making the nitric acid? Would love to be able to save some money
@@billywalker8631 yes I did. Check my channel, I demonstrate how to make concentrated nitric acid from fertilizer.
Philip Bender can’t find that video to make nitric. Can u send link?
I do like your video!
Great video and excellently explained! What material is the large funnel you used? Would it be a problem if I used a plastic funnel?
Very informative video! Not sure I could ever have enough confidence to do it myself, but it was so awesome to watch. Thank you for posting this.
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How do you get silver off of your hands? I guess picking up the coffee filter left stain on my fingers. Any gloves that are ok to use? I heard not to use nitrile? Does steel added to your copper solution in the end precip your copper or which metal? Great video, thanks! I have lots of silver powder to melt :)
Try using ammonia to remove the silver nitrate stains from your hand. You can use a piece of iron to drop your copper out of solution. I am happy you enjoyed the video 🤗
Thanks I'll try it! What about gloves?
@@treyherndon14 vinyl gloves are very resistant to nitric acid.
If the thinner material devolves quickest, wouldnt it make more sense to start with the thicker material? 🤔
As its eaten add the thinner stuff.
would this process work with electrical contacts? Some maybe as low as 68% silver and contain cadmium.
Hi sir, will normal water not work in silver refining process copper?
Nirmal water? Do you mean tap water? Chlorine in the tap water will make silver chloride and is a pain to deal with when melting.
How much actual silver did you end up with after the melt? Did you refine it again after melt to get closer to the 99.999? You left a lot of questions open great video but a lot of questions.
That's a good question 😂 I actually just added that silver powder to a batch of silver powder from another batch. Then I melted it into silver shot. Then I put it through my electrolytic silver cell. Then I usually end up pouring 100 troy ounce bars from the silver crystal.
Bummer I wanted to see it go into a bar or coin in the end still cool though ima go try to find one for 90% coins though
Hello impressive video lots of knowledge. I am First timer and made a mess of mine, used 65% nitric acid, over shot the solution without knowing and added Cooper pipe into it, pipe has disolved partially. Now question is there a way of separating silver from copper which desolved in solution? Thanks in advance
Just keep adding copper. Eventually you will consume all of your nitric acid. It takes four times as much nitric acid to dissolve copper as it does silver. Once all the nitric acid has been consumed the copper will start displacing the silver. Once all the silver has fallen out of solution you should be able to rinse the copper away with tap water. Any remaining copper or pmg's will be removed upon further purification in a silver electrolytic cell.
Philip Bender Thank you very much for valuable advise. I will follow the instruction.
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Sir fist subscriber all chamical
i have some silver chloride , if its insoluble in nitric , then how do i process it ?
Gloves while handling acids? And you touched the pot after incineration.
If chemistry had been presented like this when I was at school ,there would be a lot more scientists in the world today 😊. Thank you , who thought chemistry could be so captivating . 😊
Thanks, I am happy you enjoyed the video.
Would love to see part 2 also! Thanks for the videos.
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Check out sreetips channel: ua-cam.com/users/sreetips
He refines precious metals as well. He made an electrolytic silver cell out of a stainless steel bowl that grows _extremely_ pure silver crystals. He also does a lot of gold refining which is just as fascinating as the silver. It's a great channel if your in to this kind of thing. He also won't make you wait 3 years for the second part of the video.
Make some hand poured bars please and thank you very much for the videos and information very helpful and informative. Silver to the Moon.
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The foils and other remnant metals from the nitric dissolve are easily recovered from a quick round of Aqua Regia...
The shortcoming is of course, the time and energy for such small amounts of precious metals, probably as you surmised PGMs.
All the scraps were thrown in to a bin to be refined later.
I enjoyed the video, but I have to say, the viewer wants to see the silver melted and poured. Far too many leave out the final melt and pour which really is the best part? It’s the reward for all your work.
I know I keep meaning to make part 2 but you know how the last few years have been😷
Good stuff! Thanks for sharing !
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Probably a loaded question....but what is the high level difference between this and a silver cell?
I like how it just looks like a bunch of grey dirt but it can be melted and polished to create jewelry that people pay 💰 for.
Yes sir.
Excellent video
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Chemically and scientifically very interesting. Although I wouldn't trust this chap to look after a grasshopper. Defo a serial killer! :)
Yes, it would appear as though the wildlife has suffered around my residence. But, I am not convinced that I am to blame for the mass deaths. Some of the squirrels have gone hair and toothless. They just sit there and look at you. I'm not an evolutionary biologist but this could actually be a good thing. None of the other surviving animals are eating them. I think the squirrels problem is poor genetics and bad sunlight🤢 That is what probably caused the mutations and deaths. It has nothing to do with the constant toxic fumes being expelled from my lab🤨🤔Thanks, I am happy you enjoyed the video 🤗😀
Youre a badass brother, please keep making videos
Wow, I had no idea. Now how does the powder turn into solid stuff? No wonder I failed chemistry.
It needs to be melted down. The powder is metal it's just finely divided.
Grate video. Which grade filter paper use?. Why use distril water, why not normal water.
I use a slow filter paper. I use distilled water because it does not contain any chlorine. Chlorine will react with the silver nitrate to form silver chloride. a white chalk like substance that will clog your filter paper.
Thanks.
How long time coper drop in nitric solutions?
@@jhumpapanday496 usually a couple of hours. But leave the copper in for 24 hours to be sure all the silver has dropped.
@@philipbender956 thank you sir
enjoyed the video, but like most other videos on dissolving 925/sterling jewelry, etc....no one gives a timeline...i.e...how long for the scraps to completely dissolve? how long does it take to precipitate the solution with copper?....just curious...hours, days, ???
It took about six hours to dissolve the silver then I let it cool overnight. it took about six hours to fully precipitate the silver but I let it soak overnight to be sure all the silver had dropped.
Great video
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What was it before you smelted it?
Would it help to apply a fishtank type air pump with a small tube at the bottom of the confor easier agitation?
Is the acid will dissolve the air tube.
How did you get the rest of the wet silver out of the glassware into the stainless pot? Distilled water?
Would it work just as well to melt down the sterling silver first into a bar and then go through the chem refining to melt it back down or would a big chunk be immediately too reactive?
A big chunk would take forever to break down in acid. The thin silverware has much more surface area. Happy you enjoyed 😉
How long does it take for all the silver to crash out after adding the copper?
It starts to crash out immediately. Depending on how much silver is dissolved in the solution. It could take between 4 and 12 hours. There are other factors in play. If the copper gets completely coated with silver crystal it will stop crashing out. So you need to periodically refresh your copper. Once you no longer see crystal's forming on the copper. The silver is out of solution.
Hi Philip, I have a question! as soon as I disolved the plated silver and I filtered the very dark green solution left, in order to neutralise the acidity of it I aded some normal bicorbonate and the liquid turned in a light blue solution!! I added the copper coil but nothing hapened apart of turning the solution in a green liquid again....
big disaster!!! how can I get my silver back??? thank you for the video
If you dissolve silver plate using this method. There will be very little silver in solution it will mostly be base metals. Try again using solid Sterling silver.
Hello. How much amount of nitric acid is needed for 1 kg for silver jewellery (70% purity) and how much amount of distilled water is needed before adding copper plates?
you need one gallon for 100 metal oz. maybe one liter and half for your kilogram
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Really enjoying your channel just found it. Keep it up man! 👍
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Hi Philip,
Please tell me the uses of the remaining Copper Nitrate solution..?
Unfortunately copper nitrate isn't very useful in the home. It's mostly used in commercial applications as a dye or antifungal agent. I generally add sodium hydroxide to my copper nitrate Solutions to form copper hydroxide. I then filter off the copper hydroxide then I melt it into copper.
@@philipbender956 thanks a lot for replying. My uncle has a small silver refinery, so wanted to know what can we can produce from it and then sell it.
What kind of fume hood has cinder-block walls?
One that I built. It is in the corner of my underground bunker / lab. There are many rooms down here. The lab was part of stage 3 of the build. The 1st part of the build contains a Winnebago that I buried at the beginning of the project. That is where I sleep and produce my UA-cam videos. Stage 2 is a bunch of old shipping containers that I buried in the same path for food storage. I should probably start work on stage 4 soon. A proper shower and laundry room. At the moment I only clean up with single use alcohol swabs. Then I wear my clothes for 3 days before donating them to good will and buying new ones. In the end I predict it will be cheaper just to build the rooms.
Hello. What is the material of the tube you used to siphon the solution into the funnel?
It was silicone tubing.
@@philipbender956 Thank you for your response. I was afraid the tubing would decompose after a few uses. Do you experience this?
@@CurlyMaiden tubing is cheap.
@@philipbender956 Haha I'll take that as a yes. Thank you.
Excellent. Thank you.
So that dust at the end is basically triple 9s silver?
Yes
Dear Philip, how do you realise at 13:58 that you overshot the nitric acid ?
I usually dissolve sterling silver in 1000 g batches. It usually takes about 1 l of nitric acid to dissolve the 1,000 g. So during the process sometimes the mixture will get a little acidic 😌 but in the end it is all reduced to a nearly neutral state. I always overshoot the silver as the extraction is wrapping up.
Are you using a Pyrex beaker during the refining process while on the heat?
Pyrex is a brand name. I am using scientific glass from China 😀 It's the same glass, I'm sure Pyrex has a better quality control. But as a rule of thumb you want to use scientific glass in the lab.
Is there a good place to buy a set up of beakers and pumps/vacuums and other items needed for this process as well as the gold refining process in your other video?
Ps: you do excellent videos. Your teaching style is concise and to the point, making it very easy to take notes and follow along. Thanks for making this content! This is the knowledge the big boys don’t want us regular folk to obtain.
Yes eBay. Just search gold fingers to find the scrap.lab glass kits for the other stuff. You can even get whatever chemicals you might need. Happy you enjoyed the video 🤗 😀
@@philipbender956 Thanks again man you should make more chem videos
How much is the cost of this process? Approximately.
As I made the nitric acid the cost of the chemicals was about $20.
Where is part 2 video?
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Could this be used to make Precious Metal Clay? If so what would you use as the binder? Thanks.
Epoxy might work.
@@philipbender956 I wonder what the manufacturers of PMC ( Precious Metal Clay) use. Something that bakes away clean without residue allowing the metals to fuse. Don't think that's epoxy, but what do I know?
Is there a part 2 ?
There will be soon.
What happens if you just melt sterling silver with acetylene torch
You get melted Sterling silver. And a bunch of oxides.
I have a small suitcase full of sterling silver knives, forks and spoons dating way from my grandmother. I wish I could find someone who would melt it down into nuggets!
If you want to sale them, let me know
It sounds like it may be more valuable as the silverware. Try selling it on eBay. You should get more than scrap value.
I have a piece that says Sterling weighted on the bottom of it. It is a candle holder if it's solid silver I should be able to melt it down in a crucible right. I don't think it is plated
Sterling is .925 silver, not solid silver. It will melt in a crucible.
@@chingching664 okay thank you for your response. Im learning as much about this subject as I can for safety and basic knowledge.
I don't think there is anything safe about it. Cancer causing toxic fumes. You Must be outside upwind or have professional closed exhaust system.
@@chingching664 okay my friend our work shop is well ventilated. I also have a good mask for fumes
@@jayrock1470 Sorry, and good to hear! I don't think you made that clear in the beginning. I like watching your work.
I notice that during the cementing phase the solution becomes much bluer. Do you try to extract the copper?
The copper is extracted when I neutralize my silver waste solutions. I usually don't keep the extracted copper. Because it needs to be melted down and I don't want to contaminate any of my crucibles or furnace.
extracting the copper is relatively easy, buy a bunch of SS dinerware (preferably butter knives) from the local second hand or thrift shop and purt the in the copper nitrate solution. the copper will cement on to them. you can also use regular steel in you effluent catch bucket and it will create a ferrous nitrate solution and drive all copper, and pgm's out of solution if there are any
Hey Philip. I watched your video a few times and gave this a shot with my son. Everything has worked as you showed so far, except I have some sort of clearish crystal flake after dissolving all of the silver. It is soluble in water, so I don't believe it's silver chloride (I used distilled for everything). Any thoughts?
Maybe there was some type of residue on the silver.
Sounds like silver nitrate crystallizing out
What do you need to do to Get out The gold? Thanks!
Filtration
WHAT IS THE STRENGTH OF NITRIC ACID SOLUTION ❓❓
Detailed video thank you
Can you list all the equipment required to do this please
Yes, you will need a hot plate. A glass container. A strainer and coffee filters. The only chemical needed is concentrated nitric acid.
@@philipbender956 thanks
Did u make a video on how to refine nitric acid?
No, just a video on how to make concentrated nitric acid. if you want to purify your nitric acid you need to re distill it and bubble oxygen through it.
How long time copper drop in acid liquid
Couple of hours but you should leave it in for 24.
Chemistry is awesome.
What will you do of Copper nitrate waste?
It was destroyed and properly disposed of.
@@philipbender956 i thought may be you recover copper or nitric acid, if this step is possible and cheap...
@@faisalhayat23 I don't bother trying to recover nitric acid or copper. The acid is very dilute and the copper is very contaminated with other metals such as iron and lead. The process may be cheap but it also costs time and energy.
🤔 Then what do you do with it??
I melt it into shot for the electrolytic silver cell.
@@philipbender956 🤔 I dont know what that is either. I dont do gold and silver recovery. I just like to watch the videos. So, it's all foreign terms to me. Thank you for answering. Even ithough my ignoranc, on the subject, has me, still not knowing, at least you politely tried. 😁👍🏻
Will this method remove iron impurities from the silver? I have a large amount of sterling filings and sawdust. It contains bits of steel from the saw and files. I’ve removed much of it using a strong magnet but enough remains to contaminate any ingots that I make from melting it. Thank you in advance. Your video is very well down.
Yes. It will just take more nitric acid to dissolve the ferrous metals.
Unfortunately he forgot you do not get 99.999% pure silver for first run nitric acid and sterling it takes at least 4 runs first run is only maybe 96 to 97 % using 4.6 volt refining several times using a stainless steel container
Yeah what's up with part: 2. I wanna see it melted to a bar. Awesome video tho
How pure is the silver after this step ?
%98 to %99 The last electrolysis step will remove any platinum type metals that are contaminating the silver.
Very informative. Anybody can dump and filter, but I like to know at least a general chemistry of what's going on. Nice.
7:15 - Where the Tea pot go.
I used a magic potion to make it disappear 🍶
Good day, nice informative video.Its a wonder why someone would make these silver cells if you getting 99.999 pure silver from this method.
Thank you. The silver I obtained from this method is around %99.900. ln part 2 of this video I will be showing the difference in brightness between this silver and the factory minted silver. As I melt all the silver cement down into silver shot. In part 3 of this video I will be constructing a silver cell in order to produce %99.999 silver Crystal.
I`ll forward to it.Thanks
X ray recovery method...? Plz
Oh man, this was super, thans
So what do you do with the waste acid?
I destroy it with sodium hydroxide.
@@philipbender956 so basically add a base solution, sodium hydroxide, and then pour it into the drain? just want to make sure lol
@@dogguy8603 add base then filter off the solids. Then PH balance with sulfuric acid drain cleaner. Then go down the drain.
@@philipbender956 thanks! Made me brave enough to refine silver!
I was wondering so this gives you 999 silver, do you use electric power to crystallise it next to get the 5 9s.
Yes electrolysis will bring the silver to five 9's.
ok thanks does the voltage affect purity,by the way you have a good channel
@@danvandertorre6349 The voltage does not affect purity. Voltage will only affect the size and speed of crystal growth. What will affect purity is the concentration of copper in your electrolyte. Or if you produced your electrolyte with an impure source of silver. (Silver contaminated with PGM) I recommend purchasing minted silver to make your electrolyte. I started my cell with a 10 oz bar I purchased off of eBay.
thanks for the info
18:19 - Do a platinum test?
I don't bother with the platinum test. There should only be trace amounts present if that. Also at such low concentrations it bonds with the silver making it virtually impossible to separate without electrolysis.
where would the gold have come from if you only disolved silver
He dissolved Sterling silver articles which are .925 or better silver . The gold came in trace amounts from the original sterling that was made. A trace by-product of the mining process of the silver.
OMFG those foil pieces will be palladium and vanadium, they predominantly only spray it on silver jewellery to give it more shine but sure as shit It would be on upper crust sterling silver too
Fuck I hope you kept em, get them tested
And if not it is platinum
Yes, I have kept all of my filter papers. I was thinking about dissolving them in sulfuric acid. It's alltinve to burning.
Damn why couldnt the final weight be 999? Lol
Great video
Hey @philip, I have a bunch of silver in solution from x ray developing. Have you played with this? Thank you! Xx
I have not had a chance to play with any x-ray developing solution🙁 Sounds like it would make an interesting video. I have seen x-rays recycled but that was after they were already developed and most of the silver had been washed away. I bet the developing solution contains quite a large amount.
@@philipbender956 Thanks for your reply. It definitely does contain a bunch of it. I'd love to see how you made your fume hood! :) not many people using wet developing now, most gone digital. Snap it up while you can! I'm in NZ, so prob not ideal for you! x
@@lizzitremayneauthorandequi6127 yes New Zealand is pretty far. I will keep my eye out for it. I am curious as to how much it would contain.
@@philipbender956 I've created a monster! xx
Hi Lizzi, I can help you , please mail to
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How did people figure this out? One day someone says ...hmmm, if I add this to this, it will melt, blow up etc ... lol. Woman brain here, I would never think of something like this out in the wild lol. I feel a strong desire to go shopping for pretty silver things to wear ... 🤪. Cool video though. ☺️
I believe this was figured out by people who would dissolve things in acid. Then they would add various chemicals to see what would happen.